Monday, December 13, 2010

Re: [HumJanenge] Re: RTI challenges

Dear moderator of  humjanenge group:
 
Not sure how my e-mail came to this group (I am part of RTI forum), could you please remove my name from here?
 
BTW I do have  a comment on following post from Sarabjit:
 
>>
It is like the Indian Parliament which is a total waste of time and money (Rs. 160 crores for 6.83 hours of work).
>>
 
The above statement does not sound coming from a person who is fighting for RTI and if I may put in a bit stronger words, this approach makes the RTI effort prone to failure from the very inception. What would be productve replacement -- Duma of 70s?
 
Regards,
Devendra Tripathi
Cell: +1(408)416-1848



From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, December 13, 2010 7:42:18 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: RTI challenges

You are absolutely correct. Free speech has its limits. Consensus is
difficult to achieve in large groups where everyone is allowed to
speak simultaneously. It is like the Indian Parliament which is a
total waste of time and money (Rs. 160 crores for 6.83 hours of work).

I have been advising the owners of this group to be more firm, but
they don't listen
very much to me any more.

When selection of ICs and CICs is not in our hands, why should we
waste our time and effort on discussing the process. What we can do
instead is expose their misdeeds and harmipan when they are in and out
of office with UNCHALLENGEABLE facts and arguments.

Why has nobody here criticised the acts and misdeeds of the present
C'IC and his Commission. I'm not speaking of the routine cribbing
about individual decisions, but
about the wholesale THEFT of RTI by those F****ers at CIC.

Watch out for my 2nd RTI challenge and participate

Sarbajit

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 6:50 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Sarab ji,
> Why do v continue to fight over an issue not related to RTI and moderators
> should refrain from putting such issues on the blog.
> I want to concentrate on filling the vacant posts of ICs at CIC and on our
> reaction on the proposed amendment.
>
> It is not prudent on our part to waste our energy on such issues on which
> consensus is difficult to be formed.  The argument who came first, egg or
> hen can continue pertetually.
>
> I exhort to use your wide knowledge and experience on the main issue.  I m
> with you, will all the members.
>
> I m not that type of person who will continue to ill-argue and will not
> apologize.  If from my apology, this unproductive debate can be put to an
> end, I can apologize thousand times even though I have not made any
> mistake.
>
> Come on and let us discuss RTI related issues on an RTI blog.
>
> Religious issues can be discussed on some related blog.
>
> Your brotherly,
> M K Gupta

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