Saturday, December 10, 2016

[IAC#RG] More raids on Delhi Lawyers reveal massive stash of new notes

Exposing all those planted stories about Total Secrecy in demonetiosation, the Delhi Police has allegedly today once again uncovered about 20 crores of undeclared cash with Lawyer Rohit Tandon's law firm T&T partners.

http://www.ndtv.com/delhi-news/rs-2-5-crore-in-new-notes-among-rs-10-crore-seized-from-delhi-law-firm-1636466

This same Rohit Tandon was allegedly raided on 6 Oct 2016 (Many days before RBI Central Board's infamous Kanpur meeting on 20 Oct 2016) where Rs. 125 crores in cash was found (of course it is not illegal to keep so much cash unless it is undeclared). Per reports the IT dept was selectively going after "people who get things done" (ie. fixers).

http://www.legallyindia.com/law-firms/t-t-zeus-founder-rohit-tandon-declares-rs-125-crore-to-taxman-after-raids-20161020-8056
http://barandbench.com/tt-partner-rohit-tandon-raid/

A private video of the raid can be seen here
https://twitter.com/rajshekharTOI/status/807641705440636928
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[IAC#RG] Remonetisation

There are regular reportings in Daily Newspapers of huge amounts of cash being unearthed in various parts of India.Business interests are on the run.There are many ways the old scrap notes are being turned white through advance payments to salaried staff. If only all political heads irrespective of party affiliation had supported the laudable move things would have brought a much tolerable picture instead of despair. They are the loudest whom many feels have hidden interest.
Enough is enough. Someone sometime had to be bold to take this hard decision. Once taken the decision it is for the Government machinery to ensure that it causes little tolerable difficulties to the masses. 
IT , CBi, Enforcement Agencies through their intelligence network are in the knowledge of categories of people whom they should strike to achieve large scale exposures. In the management parlance all energy to be focussed on such filthy rich men- anti national people.People should be apprised of the results in  regular means.
 
With kind regards 
.K.BHATTACHARYYA F.I.StructE (UK), FIE (India), FIBE, FIRT H-2A, Hauzkhas, New Delhi -16, Ph:011-26854127
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Re: [IAC#RG] 're stated purpose of notes ban and G. Iyer's comment

Dude are we seriously circulating WhatsApp forwards as enlightened discussions now?

To begin with, the part about Kashmir protests being missing is another WhatsApp forward and deliberate misinformation spread by Parrikar. BJP is part of the J&K government and the home ministry data from J&K shows a drop in violence well before demonetisation. And given that there are banks being merrily looted, I doubt the reason is a shortage of cash. Who needs fake notes when they can have the real deal, yes?

When Jayalalitha was in hospital, there were some reports of violence. I am no fan of hers, but it can't be denied that people are profoundly saddened by her death, including a number of people who died in her wake. This can't exactly be faked. Riots can't be held to be a measure of sentiment - who will people riot against? She wasn't murdered. She died of illness. There is no one to protest against.

Highly recommend consuming less political propaganda and turning to observable facts or official data.


On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Ravichandran Rajamannar <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
An interesting take on Demonetization (content taken from social media) similar to ebbing of violence in Kashmirr

Did you notice "absence" of something after Jayalalitha death? Whats so clearly missing is something that we usually expect from the "overemotional" Tamil crowd: violent outburst after a leader''s demise. This time no statewide self immolation, burning buses, damaging public property, arson, curfew etc...barring one or two stray instances probably.
So why violence is absent this time which was so pervasive even in recent Cauvery protests? What changed overnight?

Some say police did a good job, some say there was enough time for emotions to subside etc. etc But the real reason is the magic of demonetization. No filthy cash available to fund rioting!!

Almost every riot and unrest in the country used to be manufactured and funded by black money either to satisfy someone''s ego or serve a vested interest. Otherwise for everyone barring some crackpots, earning a living, taking care of their family and themselves come way up in priority list compared to going up in flames for a corrupt politician.
Just like some suicide bombers get recruited in exchange for a compensation to their poor family, self immolation recruitment would mostly happen in exchange for some cash to family. To prove leader''s popularity. In the most inhuman way. 

One move on 8 Nov at 8pm and so many lives get saved to take a better shot at life. Thousands of crores of public property spared from destruction. Demonetization is absolutely an amazing move. Compelling results are already here to see and stay. If Note ban had happened 2 months earlier, even organized arson in Bangalore due to Cauvery dispute may not have happened. We all know that 99% of politicians are corrupt and anti-people regardless of language, religion, caste etc. Modi has dared to take on corrupt forces risking his and his party's future. There will be many stories floating around until he is declared winner or loser. Let us wait for Modi's 30-Dec speech expected to throw more surprises and ensuing UP elections which may be turning point in Indian Politics.

Ravi


From: Prodipto Roy <prodipto.r@gmail.com>
To: Gopalkrishnan iyer <iyer_ga@yahoo.com>; indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] 're stated purpose of notes ban and G. Iyer's comment

Did I get it right? Was there a suggestion that anyone seeing such pavement havala transactions and not reporting them is him/herself abetting corruption? Do you know how high the stakes are here and how much money is being laundered in this way? Don't you know how whistle blowers on minor scams like MNREGA and Vyapam are harassed and even killed in India?
All gov't. Banks are in the same game. There is no cash crunch for selected patrons with ruling party connections.
According to my limited understanding of the system, having lent out ... crores in NPAs, a euphemism for financial crime, they needed recapitalization, and they are doing this with our money, in order to fund the same crony capitalists that took the first loans, in a "re-adjustment" deal, with kickbacks to the same parties that urged the banks to provide the earlier bad loans, now being written off!
The really secret, undemocratic purpose of the exercise will enfold over the next year - signs have emerged already, with the digital/cashless India announcements, the fact that district administrations in BJP states are not attending their normal duties but attending trainings on digitization (except, of course, for land records, the other cash cow), the new incentives to use plastic or mobile payments, the statements of Bill.Gates, Paytm bosses, Reliance Jio, etc applauding Modi, and innumerable other news items.
There were party workers in every bus I travelled in in November in Delhi who would surround a person complaining about the futile bank lines they were losing their daily wages for, to reeducate these complainers in true fascist or Maoist fashion. Is this not a well-thought out strategy to deceive citizens and quell public dissent?
In any other country everyone would have been out on the streets protesting, as in the Occupy Wall Street movement. As I said, we are a nation of sheep, and those who live by daily labour cannot spend time in protests.
(Smt) Joya Roy
On 9 Dec 2016 12:00, "Gopalkrishnan iyer" <iyer_ga@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> It is quite surprising at the same time unnerving! Someone, appearing to be educated and well versed, claiming to fight corruption continue criticizing the govt. in spite of having seen personally people exchanging new and old notes did not try to bring to the notice of appropriate authorities, even PM's! That in itself, in a way is aiding and abetting corruption! It is natural that 1.25 million will have many more times the idea and thoughts but only a few can enforce the ideas for which one has to win over in a democracy! There is no point in getting frustrated for not doing a thing to the liking of a particular individual or group!
>
> In a democracy expecting the ruling government to conduct governance/business as dictated by a lost opposition, much less by parties who appeared to have sunk their hands deep into unfathomable corruption! Having "ruled" the country for well over 60 years congress forgets that they are not in power today and they are duty bound to allow a  party which has an unquestionable majority to conduct the business!
>
>
> On Thursday, 8 December 2016 10:15 PM, OM KANOONGO <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>
>
> Mr. Joya Roy,
> In order to appreciate your views, it is important to know from you what are the unholy, secret, long term and undemocratic aims of the leadership.
>
> CA. O P Kanoongo
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>> On Thu, 8 Dec, 2016 at 15:44, Prodipto Roy
>> <prodipto.r@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am quite convinced that the elimination of black money stated as the purpose of the notes ban was just another JUMLA, like bringing back untaxed monies in foreign havens and distributing it to all Indians.
>> A nation of sheep and unthinking fools had accepted this as the true purpose. But right near my house, a young man sitting on the pavement with just a mobile in hand is earning over Rs 40,000/day changing people's old notes for new, including large sums from third parties. The money is delivered at a point three-four removes from the man who receives the old notes.
>> I now believe the very setting up of the Jan Dhan accounts was a well'thought out part of the whole exercize. And the divulging of prior information to BJP's friends and cadres so that they may secure their finances while the rest of the country is plunged into penury is just an example of how far the dastardly leadership is capable of going to get its unholy, secret, long term, undemocratic aims fulfilled.
>> Joya Roy
>> On 8 Dec 2016 08:57, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> To:
>>> The Hon'ble Union Finance Minister of India (Shri Arun Jaitley)
>>> <fmo@nic.in>
>>> <smn.dash@nic.in> [Please put up to Hon'ble Finance Minister since his official email ID is overflowing with spam]
>>>
>>> cc: Shri Urjit Patel / Governor Reserve Bank of India <governor@rbi.org.in>,
>>> <rgoyal@rbi.org.in> [Please put up to Hon'ble Governor RBI since his official email ID is overflowing with spam]
>>>
>>> BY EMAIL
>>>
>>> Respected Sirs
>>>
>>> URGENT QUERIES concerning SBN withdrawal
>>>
>>> On 8th Nov 2016 the Hon'ble Prime Minister announced the withdrawal of legal tender status to certain high value notes on the recommendations of the Central Board of Reserve Bank of India.
>>>
>>> There is some confusion in the public mind about the role and status of one Dr. Nachiket Mor in this process, causing the INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION to seek urgent clarity from your offices and considering that as far back as 6 April 2015 the INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION had formally complained to the RBI about prevalance of huge quantities MG series counterfeit notes and demanded their immediate demonetisation / replacement.
>>>
>>> It appears from the website of the RBI that Dr. Nachiket Mor is presently a Central Govt. nominee u/s 8(1)(b) of RBI Act to the RBI's Central Board.
>>>
>>> https://www.rbi.org.in/ scripts/aboutusdisplay.aspx
>>> archived today at http://archive.is/mvmYq
>>>
>>> It appears from the RBI website that Dr. Nachiket Mor attended the 560th meeting of the RBI Central Board on 20 Oct. 2016 at Kanpur where "The Board reviewed the current economic situation, global and domestic challenges and other specific areas of operations of the Reserve Bank of India."
>>>
>>> https://m.rbi.org.in/scripts/ BS_PressReleaseDisplay.aspx? prid=38359
>>> archived today at http://archive.is/hqxIA
>>>
>>> Shortly thereafter this meeting various Hindi newspapers of Kanpur and Uttar Pradesh published that Rs. 500 and Rs.1,000 SBN MG series notes were being demonetised.
>>>
>>> http://www.hindustantimes.com/ india-news/journalist-broke- story-about-currency- demonetisation-a-fortnight- back/story- 3OpgtR5ehdzkRRrwQITLgK.html
>>> archived today at  http://archive.is/BbzZz
>>>
>>> Concerning Dr. Nachiket Mor,
>>>
>>> On or about 28 September 2015 Hon'ble Prime Minister met Shri Bill Gates in USA.
>>>
>>> In December 2015 the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation announced "Nachiket (Mor) recently joined the foundation as Senior Advisor. He is an Indian banker. He is a former member of the Central Board of the Reserve Bank of India. He is known for his inventions of financial devices to deliver banking service to villages and contribution in trying to solve India's financial inclusion problem."
>>>
>>> http://www.impatientoptimists. org/Authors/M/Nachiket-Mor
>>> archived today at http://archive.is/qc2F7
>>>
>>> Thereafter it was clarified in the media that Dr. Mor would be taking over as Director (India Office) Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation wef March 2016 which reports again describe that Nachiket Mor was a former member of RBI's board.
>>>
>>> http://www.indiainfoline.com/ article/news-top-story/ nachiket-mor-to-head-bill- melinda-gates-foundation-in- india-116031600220_1.html
>>> archived at http://archive.is/jVi8R
>>>
>>> The RBI website, however, makes no mention of Dr. Nachiket Mor's connection with Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
>>>
>>> https://rbi.org.in/scripts/bs_ viewcontent.aspx?Id=2682
>>> archived at http://archive.is/959aD
>>>
>>> Accordingly the INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION is deeply interested to know the true facts between Dr. Nachiketa Mor's participation in the various Central Board meetings of Reserve Bank of India which recommended demonetisation when all the while he was employed by Bill Gates and Melinda Gates and had aparently suppresed his affiliations from the Central Government / Reserve Bank and which ultimately led to the "demonetization" scheme being published in advance by the Kanpur based journalist.
>>>
>>> We would also urge you to kindly immediately place the complete records of the 560th RBI Central Board meeting at Kanpur as well as the special meeting of the Board on 8th Nov 2016 in the public domain so that the citizens of India are properly informed about the deliberations of the RBI's Central Board and its recommendations for withdrawal of the SBN (specified bank notes).
>>>
>>> Kindly treat this matter as very urgent.
>>>
>>> sincerely
>>>
>>>
>>> Sarbajit Roy
>>> National Convenor
>>> INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION, jan andolan
>>> B-59 Defence Colony
>>> New Delhi 110024
>>> Tel : +91-8010205897
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Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: SHAME ON US - Defence Forces Vs BABUS "PENSIONSCALES"

To The Honourable The Dr. Dalal-Nallawalla (Founder President AIMA-MSME)

Rajendra Dalvi is not allergic to Gujaratis, but is allergic to incompetence generally.

As captain of industry what would you feel and say if same exercise was being secretly planned and carried out by Laloo Yadav as Prime Minister and with a Bihari RBI Governor and some Bihari rascal IAS as Revenue Secretary in this fully unplanned and incompetent way ?

If not you, then what would Narendra Modi have said in the above scenario ?

Be honest, Modi waited till Raghuram Rajan left and then quickly carried out this with a rubber stamp Gujarati RBI governor Urjit Patel who was not even an Indian to begin with.

Let us focus on some BJP lies.

Firstly, today the BJP is not a party of Hindus or for defending Hindutva. It has become an extension of America and for spreading American culture, pornography and loose morals. The Hinduism of BJP is that recycled Christianity of USA which was implanted in mind of Swami Vivekananda when he was sleeping in homes of unmarried American ladies in USA.

Secondly, recall how the BJP pronmised to remove AADHHAR when it came to power. Recall Meenakshi Lekhi saying it is a fraud, a way to legalise Bangladeshi Muslims, and that the entire database of UIDAI is stored in USA. So what has changed now, Those same Bangladeshi Mulims in Assam have overnight become Bangladeshi Hindus or Mohan Das Pai has replaced Nilekanni as the cash conduit to High command ?

Meenakshi Lekhi had said "Of 33 members in a parliamentary standing committee, 31 had voted against implementing Aadhaar programme. The apex court too had questioned its credibility. Yet the government went ahead with it .. A thorough CBI probe is needed on the money spent and why Aadhaar was made mandatory,"

So how much was Modi bribed by USA to start supporting Aadhaar which is decideldy anti-Hindu in scope ?

Thirdly, Narendra Modi says that Triple-talaq is anti-woman. I strongly feel that it is really Narendra Modi who is anti woman for neglecting his wife and not paying her even 1 rupee as maintainance after deserting her. Can there be any greater disgrace for Gujaratis and Hindu Dharm than such a man who does not know the ABC of Hindu way of life.

So I ask again can nation be trusted in hands of such opportunistic double-speaking jumla spewing un-Hindus ?

PS: We are equally privy to all the hollow jumlas of ache din, Make in India, easy loans with low interets rate, cheap bijli, cheap paani, GST 1 tax, no corruption and inspector raj, Kill China,  etc. being made to keep MSME industry quiet.

RP Dalvi

On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 6:45 PM, D.Hon.-Dr. Avinash K Dalal-Nallawala <avinashdalal@hotmail.com> wrote:

Mr. Rajendra Dalvi is having the allergy of Gujaratis.

Demonetization Historical and Bold Step taken by Hon. PM Shri. Narendrabhai Modi ji, on

8th November 2016 to curb/ abolish the corruption and end of Parallel Economy of

Black Money. Black Money is the main root cause of Corruption and Social evils as well as

Black Money Parallel Economy resulted in disparity in the society. Rich became more richer and Poor became more poorer. Corruption has become a way of life.

National Citizens became a victim and accepted for their survival / existence.

Bhrashtachar, Sishtachar Ban Gaya Tha.        

 

Demonetization will lead to Economic reforms, Healthy Economic situation – condition.

There will be transparency in every monetary transaction.

Honesty will become way of life.

 

Bharat Mata Ki Jai - Vande Matram


Regards,


Dr. AVinash K. Nallawala

From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of Rajinder Dalvi <rajinder.dalvi@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 7:25 AM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: SHAME ON US - Defence Forces Vs BABUS "PENSIONSCALES"
 
Many thanks for this.
http://indiabudget.nic.in/ub2016-17/eb/sbe21.pdf
DEMAND NO. 21 - indiabudget.nic.in
indiabudget.nic.in
Notes on Demands for Grants, 2016-2017 109 No. 21/Defence Pensions MINISTRY OF DEFENCE DEMAND NO. 21 Defence Pensions A. The Budget allocations, net of recoveries ...


The Defence Pensions budget of 2016-17 has risen 33% in a single year to 82,000 crore, the Army gets the bulk of it at 90% and still we want more for ourselves.

What next ? Should India buy more planes and missiles or pay pensions under 7th Pay Commission ? Is it any wonder that the 2,000 rupee note is introduced to provide for such hyper-inflation ?
RP Dalvi

On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Amit Cowshish <amitcowshish@gmail.com> wrote:
The exact figures can be checked from the Demand for Grant for Defence Pensions which can be accessed on Finance Ministry's website.

Sent from my iPhone

On 10-Dec-2016, at 1:25 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:

At a time like this when the people are suffering from the aftereffects of demonetisation and trying to cope with them, is it right to raise this issue specially when pension issue has been discussed here a number of times and the opinion is sharply divided.
From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of jonahjones16cav <jonahjones16cav@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 12:03 PM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: SHAME ON US - Defence Forces Vs BABUS "PENSION SCALES"
 
Dear Rajender Dalvi,
I cannot teach any one a ything but can only make you think.
Also rqst you to pl tone down yr remarks. Life is one big rat race.
Satish Khanna





Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------
From: Rajinder Dalvi <rajinder.dalvi@gmail.com>
Date: 10/12/2016 11:09 (GMT+05:30)
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: SHAME ON US - Defence Forces Vs BABUS "PENSION SCALES"

ESM are the most easily fooled and divided community in India because we are systematically conditioned to be susceptible to rank and ego, and will follow any Pied Piper like little rats

What is the authenticity source of all these figures ?

From: Major Satish Khanna <jonahjones16cav@gmail.com>
 Date: 9 December 2016 at 6:52:34 PM IST
 To: undisclosed-recipients:;
 Subject: SHAME ON US - Defence Forces Vs BABUS "PENSION SCALES"

Defence Forces Vs Babus: Pension

Food for thought. Just for your knowledge - some statistics:

ARMED FORCES

TOTAL PENSIONERS.......25,00,000

TOTAL BUDGET ...............Rs 33,000 CRORES

AVERAGE PENSION PER PENSIONER.... Rs 15,050 /- PER MONTH

.............................. .............................. ........................

CIVILIANS IN DEFENCE

TOTAL PENSIONERS......5,32,000

TOTAL BUDGET...............Rs 21,000 CRORES

AVERAGE PENSION PER PENSIONER... Rs 33,680 /- PER MONTH

.............................. .............................. ..........................

BABUS - IAS, IPS, IFS, PWD, INDIAN MEDICAL DEPT etc

TOTAL PENSIONERS......2,95,000

TOTAL BUDGET..............Rs 33,500 CROES

AVERAGE PENSION PER PENSIONER..

Rs 93,930 /- PER MONTH

.............................. .............................. ...........................

FOR INFORMATION OF INDIAN PUBLIC WHO HAVE SO LIMITED KNOWLEDGE OF DEFENCE FORCES AND WHAT THEY RECEIVE AS PAY AND PENSION WHEN COMPARED TO CIVIL GOVT BABUS (OFFICERS TO PEONS).

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Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: SHAME ON US - Defence Forces Vs BABUS "PENSIONSCALES"

 
Analysis by 'Economic Times' of 'Cash Crunch' as a result of Demonetisation published in their paper on 7th December indicating Impact, Current Verdict and Solution on all segments of economy. Only the 'Current Verdicts' as assessed by it are reproduced below –
Economy – Strongly negative
Jobs – Mildly negative, and may improve in future
E-Commerce – Negative, can get worse in short term
Consumer spend - Negative, can get worse in short term
Real Estate – Strongly Negative, can get worse
Tourism – Strongly negative, peak season may be badly hit
Aviation – Somewhat negative, not alarming yet
Agriculture – Neutral to positive
Telecom – Strongly negative
Autos – Negative, but not yet bleak
Metals - Negative, can get worse

R.N.Malhotra



From: D.Hon.-Dr. Avinash K Dalal-Nallawala <avinashdalal@hotmail.com>
To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: SHAME ON US - Defence Forces Vs BABUS "PENSIONSCALES"

Mr. Rajendra Dalvi is having the allergy of Gujaratis.

Demonetization Historical and Bold Step taken by Hon. PM Shri. Narendrabhai Modi ji, on
8th November 2016 to curb/ abolish the corruption and end of Parallel Economy of
Black Money. Black Money is the main root cause of Corruption and Social evils as well as
Black Money Parallel Economy resulted in disparity in the society. Rich became more richer and Poor became more poorer. Corruption has become a way of life.
National Citizens became a victim and accepted for their survival / existence.
Bhrashtachar, Sishtachar Ban Gaya Tha.        
 
Demonetization will lead to Economic reforms, Healthy Economic situation – condition.
There will be transparency in every monetary transaction.
Honesty will become way of life.
 
Bharat Mata Ki Jai - Vande Matram

Regards,

Dr. AVinash K. Nallawala


From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of Rajinder Dalvi <rajinder.dalvi@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 7:25 AM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: SHAME ON US - Defence Forces Vs BABUS "PENSIONSCALES"
 
Many thanks for this.
http://indiabudget.nic.in/ub2016-17/eb/sbe21.pdf
indiabudget.nic.in
Notes on Demands for Grants, 2016-2017 109 No. 21/Defence Pensions MINISTRY OF DEFENCE DEMAND NO. 21 Defence Pensions A. The Budget allocations, net of recoveries ...


The Defence Pensions budget of 2016-17 has risen 33% in a single year to 82,000 crore, the Army gets the bulk of it at 90% and still we want more for ourselves.

What next ? Should India buy more planes and missiles or pay pensions under 7th Pay Commission ? Is it any wonder that the 2,000 rupee note is introduced to provide for such hyper-inflation ?

RP Dalvi

On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Amit Cowshish <amitcowshish@gmail.com> wrote:
The exact figures can be checked from the Demand for Grant for Defence Pensions which can be accessed on Finance Ministry's website.

Sent from my iPhone

On 10-Dec-2016, at 1:25 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:

At a time like this when the people are suffering from the aftereffects of demonetisation and trying to cope with them, is it right to raise this issue specially when pension issue has been discussed here a number of times and the opinion is sharply divided.


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To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: SHAME ON US - Defence Forces Vs BABUS "PENSION SCALES"
 

Dear Rajender Dalvi,

I cannot teach any one a ything but can only make you think.

Also rqst you to pl tone down yr remarks. Life is one big rat race.

Satish Khanna






Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Rajinder Dalvi <rajinder.dalvi@gmail.com>
Date: 10/12/2016 11:09 (GMT+05:30)
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: SHAME ON US - Defence Forces Vs BABUS "PENSION SCALES"

ESM are the most easily fooled and divided community in India because we are systematically conditioned to be susceptible to rank and ego, and will follow any Pied Piper like little rats

What is the authenticity source of all these figures ?

From: Major Satish Khanna <jonahjones16cav@gmail.com>
Date: 9 December 2016 at 6:52:34 PM IST
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: SHAME ON US - Defence Forces Vs BABUS "PENSION SCALES"

Defence Forces Vs Babus: Pension
Food for thought. Just for your knowledge - some statistics:
ARMED FORCES
TOTAL PENSIONERS.......25,00,000
TOTAL BUDGET ...............Rs 33,000 CRORES
AVERAGE PENSION PER PENSIONER.... Rs 15,050 /- PER MONTH
.............................. .............................. ........................
CIVILIANS IN DEFENCE
TOTAL PENSIONERS......5,32,000
TOTAL BUDGET...............Rs 21,000 CRORES
AVERAGE PENSION PER PENSIONER... Rs 33,680 /- PER MONTH
.............................. .............................. ..........................
BABUS - IAS, IPS, IFS, PWD, INDIAN MEDICAL DEPT etc
TOTAL PENSIONERS......2,95,000
TOTAL BUDGET..............Rs 33,500 CROES
AVERAGE PENSION PER PENSIONER..
Rs 93,930 /- PER MONTH
.............................. .............................. ...........................
FOR INFORMATION OF INDIAN PUBLIC WHO HAVE SO LIMITED KNOWLEDGE OF DEFENCE FORCES AND WHAT THEY RECEIVE AS PAY AND PENSION WHEN COMPARED TO CIVIL GOVT BABUS (OFFICERS TO PEONS).

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Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: SHAME ON US - Defence Forces Vs BABUS "PENSIONSCALES"

It is true that the black money is the root cause of corruption. However, presently eradication of black money itself has also become a cause for corruption, otherwise how does one explain recoveries of huge amounts of Rs. 2000 currency notes from throughout the length and breadth of the country when general public has been queuing up for hours for drawing Rs. 2000 from ATMs.


K S Dhingra
9211777884


From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of D.Hon.-Dr. Avinash K Dalal-Nallawala <avinashdalal@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 6:45 PM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: SHAME ON US - Defence Forces Vs BABUS "PENSIONSCALES"
 

Mr. Rajendra Dalvi is having the allergy of Gujaratis.


Demonetization Historical and Bold Step taken by Hon. PM Shri. Narendrabhai Modi ji, on

8th November 2016 to curb/ abolish the corruption and end of Parallel Economy of

Black Money. Black Money is the main root cause of Corruption and Social evils as well as

Black Money Parallel Economy resulted in disparity in the society. Rich became more richer and Poor became more poorer. Corruption has become a way of life.

National Citizens became a victim and accepted for their survival / existence.

Bhrashtachar, Sishtachar Ban Gaya Tha.        

 

Demonetization will lead to Economic reforms, Healthy Economic situation – condition.

There will be transparency in every monetary transaction.

Honesty will become way of life.

 

Bharat Mata Ki Jai - Vande Matram


Regards,


Dr. AVinash K. Nallawala



From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of Rajinder Dalvi <rajinder.dalvi@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 7:25 AM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: SHAME ON US - Defence Forces Vs BABUS "PENSIONSCALES"
 
Many thanks for this.
http://indiabudget.nic.in/ub2016-17/eb/sbe21.pdf
indiabudget.nic.in
Notes on Demands for Grants, 2016-2017 109 No. 21/Defence Pensions MINISTRY OF DEFENCE DEMAND NO. 21 Defence Pensions A. The Budget allocations, net of recoveries ...


The Defence Pensions budget of 2016-17 has risen 33% in a single year to 82,000 crore, the Army gets the bulk of it at 90% and still we want more for ourselves.

What next ? Should India buy more planes and missiles or pay pensions under 7th Pay Commission ? Is it any wonder that the 2,000 rupee note is introduced to provide for such hyper-inflation ?

RP Dalvi

On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Amit Cowshish <amitcowshish@gmail.com> wrote:
The exact figures can be checked from the Demand for Grant for Defence Pensions which can be accessed on Finance Ministry's website.

Sent from my iPhone

On 10-Dec-2016, at 1:25 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:

At a time like this when the people are suffering from the aftereffects of demonetisation and trying to cope with them, is it right to raise this issue specially when pension issue has been discussed here a number of times and the opinion is sharply divided.



From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of jonahjones16cav <jonahjones16cav@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 12:03 PM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: SHAME ON US - Defence Forces Vs BABUS "PENSION SCALES"
 

Dear Rajender Dalvi,

I cannot teach any one a ything but can only make you think.

Also rqst you to pl tone down yr remarks. Life is one big rat race.

Satish Khanna






Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Rajinder Dalvi <rajinder.dalvi@gmail.com>
Date: 10/12/2016 11:09 (GMT+05:30)
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: SHAME ON US - Defence Forces Vs BABUS "PENSION SCALES"

ESM are the most easily fooled and divided community in India because we are systematically conditioned to be susceptible to rank and ego, and will follow any Pied Piper like little rats

What is the authenticity source of all these figures ?

From: Major Satish Khanna <jonahjones16cav@gmail.com>
Date: 9 December 2016 at 6:52:34 PM IST
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: SHAME ON US - Defence Forces Vs BABUS "PENSION SCALES"

Defence Forces Vs Babus: Pension

Food for thought. Just for your knowledge - some statistics:

ARMED FORCES

TOTAL PENSIONERS.......25,00,000

TOTAL BUDGET ...............Rs 33,000 CRORES

AVERAGE PENSION PER PENSIONER.... Rs 15,050 /- PER MONTH

.............................. .............................. ........................

CIVILIANS IN DEFENCE

TOTAL PENSIONERS......5,32,000

TOTAL BUDGET...............Rs 21,000 CRORES

AVERAGE PENSION PER PENSIONER... Rs 33,680 /- PER MONTH

.............................. .............................. ..........................

BABUS - IAS, IPS, IFS, PWD, INDIAN MEDICAL DEPT etc

TOTAL PENSIONERS......2,95,000

TOTAL BUDGET..............Rs 33,500 CROES

AVERAGE PENSION PER PENSIONER..

Rs 93,930 /- PER MONTH

.............................. .............................. ...........................

FOR INFORMATION OF INDIAN PUBLIC WHO HAVE SO LIMITED KNOWLEDGE OF DEFENCE FORCES AND WHAT THEY RECEIVE AS PAY AND PENSION WHEN COMPARED TO CIVIL GOVT BABUS (OFFICERS TO PEONS).


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Re: [IAC#RG] Can nation be trusted in hands of Gujaratis ?

Thanks mr ganguli.

I fully agree with you.

Mr. Sarabjeet, can you rant against mahatma gandhi and patel in the name of bania or against any body in the name of savarn.

Our fiberals never criticised mayawati for 

'tilak(brahaman), taraju(bania) aur talwar(kshatriya), inke maro jute char'

well this kind of liberism is equally harmful as regionalism or religious.

this is worst kind of communalism.


see

On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 5:21 AM, Anand Gangoli <anandgangoli22@gmail.com> wrote:
I think this email is shameful. To criticize an individual or individuals is acceptable(even though I myself am fully in favour of demonetization), but to denigrate an entire community is a sad reflection on your thinking process.
Or do you think Mahatma Gandhi and Sardar Patel were also incompetent Gujeratis ?​
Was this mail approved by the moderator?

On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 5:47 PM, Rajinder Dalvi <rajinder.dalvi@gmail.com> wrote:
So at last Modi's PR cell has had to reveal his kitchen cabinet of Gujaratis who mucked up execution of demonetisation

1) Narendra Modi himself
2) Urjit Patel, the Kenyan citizen, RIL executive
3) "Dr." Hashmukh Adhia, whose Ph.D  our sources says is some dubious "Yoga" degree from a shady RSS controlled distance education deemed university in Karnataka, which (like Modi) he never/hardly attended.

Can nation's economy be trusted in hands of such incompetent Gujaratis ?

RP Dalvi

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