Reply: [rti4empowerment] Re: Poll results for rti4empowerment

Dear Ravi & others,

 

Do not bother much about Sarabjit Roy's remarks. It is just as a headmaster to a pupil. I am amused. I am neither angry nor annoyed. I simply smile.

 

I am right in addressing my RTI applications to both Dr. Manmohan Singh & Veerappa Moily. I provide you a brain teaser to know why & how I am justified in doing so.

 

I have attached the scanned copy of the letters from former CJI & currently CMN of NHCR, KGB to Dr. Manmohan Singh PMI. I have objected to the doctored document which bears type written remark by PM Dr. MMN Singh & have obtained certified copy of letter bearing handwritten remarks by Pm too.

 

Former CJI KGB's decision on 04 01 2010 in Kannapuram Gandaiah vs CAO of Hyderabad High Court is void ab initio & has no relevance. I request all of you to ponder over why I say so.

 

Let all of us, including you Sarabjit Roy, be disquiet to ensure that RTI Act is not modified, the same manner how the 2006 ammendment to RTI Act 2005 was thwarted.

 

View the letters.

 

Regards to all of you.

 

WEDS 

 

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From: Ravindran Major <majorravi@gmail.com>
To: DSouza Wilberious Evanglist <wilevades@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com; sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>; sroy1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com>; usukulsingh@hotmail.com; dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com; bimal.khemani@gmail.com; M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>; Mahendra Kumar Gupta <mkgupta1952@gmail.com>; leslie almeida <leslie_almeida@rediffmail.com>
Sent: Tue, 14 December, 2010 5:55:16
Subject: Re: Reply: [rti4empowerment] Re: Poll results for rti4empowerment

Having gone through the series of mail, Mr DSouza has done a great job getting KGB's letter to PM on exclusion of judges from RTI Act's purview. But he has erred in applying to Mr Moily instead of the PIO of the office of the law minister and following the ue process (FAA in the office of the law minister and CIC!) Again he is right in having NO faith in the CIC. (I also take this opportunity to request Mr DSouza to post the letter to this group.)

 

Having said that Mr Roy should not have used the terms to condemn Mr DSouza's efforts. We all know how much sincerely and diligently we are all pursuing our aim of bringing in transparency and accountability in govt and we are also aware of the nature of the road blocks. Let us not fight amoung oursleves and have our adversaries have the last laugh!

 

regards n bw

 

ravi

 

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:40 AM, DSouza Wilberious Evanglist <wilevades@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Dear Sarabjit Roy,

 

Please re-read.  With the erudition you claim to have, you know  why I did so & I have conviction in what I did.

 

I have been doing so ever since I began using RTI Act 2005 for my survival since 2006 where I seek certain classified information & I am certain who possesses the information I seek.

 

Even PM Manmohan Singh has replied, albeit via PIO of PMO on former CJI KGB's letter to PM to include Judges in section 8 of RTI Act 2005. I have obtained copies of KGB's letter to PM, PM's letter to LM Veerappa Moily but only Veerappa Moily denied information on course of action on PM's letter to him.

 

In another case of under valuation of land I addressed similar applications to CMN CBDT, CVC, PM & FM Pranab Mukherji. Only the last one did not reply. I have been able to set the process in motion.

 

Is sroy1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> also your e-mail ID?

If that is the case & if my assupmtion is correct you must have been born in the year 1947.

 

Regards,

WEDS

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From: sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: INDIA RTI for empowerment <rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, 13 December, 2010 22:33:59
Subject: Re: Reply: [rti4empowerment] Re: Poll results for rti4empowerment

Dear Mr WEDS

1) On what basis did you apply directly in RTI to Mr Veerappa Moily ?.
2) On what basis did you file a FA to PM ?

It is people like you who don't even possess a copy of RTI Act
(5.4/5.5) or have the brains to understand it to apply it who are
screwing up the scene for genuine citizen applicants.

Contaminants like you should be removed from responsible RTI groups as
soon as possible. List owner kindly take action under RUP.

Sarbajit

DSouza Wilberious Evanglist wrote:
> Dear Dr Sharma,
>
> About the dilution of RTI, you will soon come to know.
>
> If you have specific information do let me know. If it was about former CJI KG
> Balakrishnan's recommendations to include judges in section 8 of RTI, I obtained
> copies of those letters & wrote to PM that KGB' s decision is repugnant to the
> Constitution of india & Judges cannot be preferentially treated as they are
> Public Servants. Independence of Judiciary  does not connote immunity to judges.
> It only connotes that the process of adjudication does not become influenced.
>
> However, my RTI application addressed to Veerappa Moily (Section 5(4&5)) did not
> elicit any reply. Appealed PM as FAA - no disposal. PM did not reply in another
> issue- appealed to Prez- no reply.
>
> I did not have time to pursue further as approach to Central Information
> Commission or any other Information Commission is futile.
>
> Regards,
> WEDS