Dear All
I endorse what Urvi has stated in the message.
We have to be careful in our behaviour and dealings with
other members of the group
Dr JN Sharma
ADVOCATE/ HUMANRIGHTS ACTIVIST
On 12/3/10, DSouza Wilberious Evanglist <
wilevades@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Despite, all of us claiming ourselves as self proclaimed, self styled RTI
> Activists, be it High-end, Mid-end, Low-end or Hard Core, Medium Core or
> Soft
> Core activism, we, neither together by solidarity, nor by individual
> excellence,
> have been able to ensure that every public authority fulfills their
> obligation
> under section 4 of RTI act 2005, which should have been with 120 days after
> enactment of that Act, even after about 5 & 1/2 years after enctment of that
> Act.
>
> We have, just as in any movement it occurs, derelicted in our duty that we
> enjoined ourselves, by an act of volition & not by compulsion to reaffirm
> our(every citizen's in any democracy) right to information that is by axiom
> is
> inherent , human & fundamental right of every citizen in any democracy,
> reaffirmed by the Apex Court of India in Raj Narain vs State of U.P> &
> Peoples
> Union for Civil Liberties vs Union of India & the Unbiversal declaration of
> Human Rights by the UN.
>
> Instead we stray & quarrel over issues that should well be ignored just as a
> blinkered horse does, in its stride.
>
> Unless we ensure that every public authority discloses chirefly the
> following,
> RTI will remain elusive as it is today.
>
> A. As per section 4(ii) of RTI Act 2005, please inform the powers, duties
> &
> responsibilities of the persons working as functionaries of Public
> Authority.
>
>
> B. As per section 4(iii) of RTI Act 2005, please inform the procedure to
> be
> followed by the persons working as functionaries of Public Authority in
> decision
> making process, channels of supervision for them in discharge of their
> duties &
> decisions by them in that process, their accountability for acts & omissions
> by
> them in discharge of their duty as functionaries of Public Authorities.
>
> C. In the information about their accountability for acts & omissions by
> them
> in discharge of their duties as functionaries of Public Authority, should
> contain the following information too which is concomitant of the term
> accountability :
>
> 1. The hierarchical functionary/ies who is/are empowered to initiate
> disciplinary action as per the departmental disciplinary procedure, in case
> of
> these functionaries are accused of,
>
> a. Violating the Fundamental & Human Rights of Citizens of India e.g.
> showing disrespect to, use of abusive language, signs of disrespect,
> discourteous behavior, use of physical force, derision, mockery, innuendos
> behaving in an accentuated manner e.g. show of anger, contempt, speaking in
> an
> inflected voice, demeaning, snide remarks etc.
>
>
> b. Acting ultra vires (beyond allowed empowerment limits) in discharge
> of
> their functions & exercise of powers vested with them.
>
> c. For selective application of rule, exception in application of rules,
> disparate application of rules, abuse of authority to favour one to the
> detriment of another, transgression of authority, trespassing the powers
> vested
> with a hierarchical functionary, failure to implement laws rules,
> favouritism,
> nepotism in application of laws etc.,
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
> WEDS
>
> Mr Roy,
> If you are considered a high-end RTI activist,then I will gladly bid
> goodbye to
> the RTI groups.BTW,before you pass judgement,I would suggest you ask the
> people
> who are on the Group (and VERY REAL people,believe me,L because I have met
> or
> spoken telephonically to many of them) as to whether I contribute positively
> or
> not.
> Hardcore doesn't imply licence to kill(with rude words) it implies a deep
> commitment ,and I think we will have to put to the vote whether your
> commitment
> is deeper than that of the the next man/woman.
> I have witnessed your personal attacks on this Group on people,with specific
> reference to Mr Rejimon.For a long period in the middle ,I did not come
> across
> your posts.You have,however,returned,and you are spewing venom most of the
> time,
> I request the moderators of the Groups on which Mr Roy is a member,to take
> me
> off those Groups if I also figure in those lists.All except
>
rti4empowerment@yahoogroups.com The rest of you,please carry on with your
> Group
> of high-enders!
> Best of luck.
> Urvi Sukul Singh
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "sroy1947" <
sroy1947@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 2:59 PM
> To: "HumJanenge RTI India Right to Information Act 2005"
> <
HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: "Judge Uncle Syndrome" in the High Courts
>
>> Dear Ms Singh
>>
>> This is a group for hard=core RTI activists. Quite obviously ladies
>> with weak constitutions are not up to digesting alot of what is posted
>> to this group and most of which is quite frankly nausea inducing
>> concerning the rampant corruption in the Info Commissions and the
>> judiciary..
>>
>> I concur that a group like rti4empowerment@yahoogroups is the only
>> group which will suit your delicate temperament. The moderator there
>> is really scraping the bottom of the barrel if he permits posts from
>> you and RSingh631 etc to his members (somebody else has already shown
>> that half the member list over there is fake).
>>
>> PS: If you read the first post in this thread, you will find that it
>> was not I who raised this issue/attack but the Law Commission of
>> India.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> Urvi Sukul Singh wrote:
>>> Mr Roy,
>>> You suggest action against people making suggestions yet your language
>>> and
>>> the tenor of you mails is absolutely unbearable at times.Time someone
>>> took
>>> action against you.Most of what one has read over the last few weeks is a
>>> load of rubbish,with you a regular participant.
>>> I have requested being taken off all groups other than
>>>
rti4empowerment@yahoogroups.Kindly comply.Otherwise,till I get the
>>> mails,if
>>> I feel the need I will reply.
>>> Urvi Sukul Singh
>>> PS I find this attack on the judiciary very unseemly.
>>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Urvi Sukul Singh <
usukulsingh@hotmail.com>
> To: HumJanenge RTI India Right to Information Act 2005
> <
HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>;
humjanenge@googlegroups.com;
>
humjanenge@yahoogroups.co.in;
rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com; rti4emp
> yahoo
> <
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> Sent: Thu, 2 December, 2010 15:24:00
> Subject: [rti4empowerment] Re: [HumJanenge] Re: "Judge Uncle Syndrome" in
> the
> High Courts
>
>
>
>
