discussion there is no problem. But when they start dragging in
irrelevant issues (their dual/triple loyalties are now coming out
slowly) then the only solution is for the list owners to intervene and
restore order.
Sarbajit
On 12/13/10, Ravindran Major <majorravi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Having gone through the series of mail, Mr DSouza has done a great job
> getting KGB's letter to PM on exclusion of judges from RTI Act's purview.
> But he has erred in applying to Mr Moily instead of the PIO of the office of
> the law minister and following the ue process (FAA in the office of the law
> minister and CIC!) Again he is right in having NO faith in the CIC. (I also
> take this opportunity to request Mr DSouza to post the letter to this
> group.)
>
> Having said that Mr Roy should not have used the terms to condemn Mr
> DSouza's efforts. We all know how much sincerely and diligently we are all
> pursuing our aim of bringing in transparency and accountability in govt and
> we are also aware of the nature of the road blocks. Let us not fight amoung
> oursleves and have our adversaries have the last laugh!
>
> regards n bw
>
> ravi
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:40 AM, DSouza Wilberious Evanglist <
> wilevades@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Dear Sarabjit Roy,
>>
>> Please re-read. With the erudition you claim to have, you know why I did
>> so & I have conviction in what I did.
>>
>> I have been doing so ever since I began using RTI Act 2005 for my survival
>> since 2006 where I seek certain classified information & I am certain who
>> possesses the information I seek.
>>
>> Even PM Manmohan Singh has replied, albeit via PIO of PMO on former CJI
>> KGB's letter to PM to include Judges in section 8 of RTI Act 2005. I have
>> obtained copies of KGB's letter to PM, PM's letter to LM Veerappa Moily
>> but
>> only Veerappa Moily denied information on course of action on PM's letter
>> to
>> him.
>>
>> In another case of under valuation of land I addressed similar
>> applications
>> to CMN CBDT, CVC, PM & FM Pranab Mukherji. Only the last one did not
>> reply.
>> I have been able to set the process in motion.
>>
>> Is sroy1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> also your e-mail ID?
>> If that is the case & if my assupmtion is correct you must have been born
>> in the year 1947.
>>
>> Regards,
>> WEDS
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>> *To:* INDIA RTI for empowerment <rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Mon, 13 December, 2010 22:33:59
>> *Subject:* Re: Reply: [rti4empowerment] Re: Poll results for
>> rti4empowerment
>>
>> Dear Mr WEDS
>>
>> 1) On what basis did you apply directly in RTI to Mr Veerappa Moily ?.
>> 2) On what basis did you file a FA to PM ?
>>
>> It is people like you who don't even possess a copy of RTI Act
>> (5.4/5.5) or have the brains to understand it to apply it who are
>> screwing up the scene for genuine citizen applicants.
>>
>> Contaminants like you should be removed from responsible RTI groups as
>> soon as possible. List owner kindly take action under RUP.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> DSouza Wilberious Evanglist wrote:
>> > Dear Dr Sharma,
>> >
>> > About the dilution of RTI, you will soon come to know.
>> >
>> > If you have specific information do let me know. If it was about former
>> CJI KG
>> > Balakrishnan's recommendations to include judges in section 8 of RTI, I
>> obtained
>> > copies of those letters & wrote to PM that KGB' s decision is repugnant
>> to the
>> > Constitution of india & Judges cannot be preferentially treated as they
>> are
>> > Public Servants. Independence of Judiciary does not connote immunity to
>> judges.
>> > It only connotes that the process of adjudication does not become
>> influenced.
>> >
>> > However, my RTI application addressed to Veerappa Moily (Section 5(4&5))
>> did not
>> > elicit any reply. Appealed PM as FAA - no disposal. PM did not reply in
>> another
>> > issue- appealed to Prez- no reply.
>> >
>> > I did not have time to pursue further as approach to Central Information
>> > Commission or any other Information Commission is futile.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > WEDS
>>
>>
>
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