Re: [HumJanenge] RTI experts help / opinion needed

I wonder how the damn thing called corrruption and kickbacks is thrieving despite RTI Act, Lok Ayukta, CVC , CBI , CID , VIGILANCE and 64 lakhs DEVI Devias. --- On Tue, 14/12/10, Abhimanyu <who.will.file.rti@gmail.com> wrote: From: Abhimanyu <who.will.file.rti@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RTI experts help / opinion needed To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, 14 December, 2010, 11:14 AM lok ayukta is useless On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Dwarakanath <dwarakanathdm@gmail.com> wrote: Mr Jagdeesh kumar, has come out with detailed percentage of kick backs to BBMP.     He has an option to disclose these information to Lok Ayuktha, and they will take further action to clean the system to the extent possible. Regards, dwarakanathdm On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 1:15 PM, K N Jagadesh kumar <jkgroup999@gmail.com> wrote: To shashi kumar From K n jagdesh kumar I  saw your comment on pathholes, for the last 7 years i am a bbmp contractor. you are correct 45% of the bill amount goes as kick backs. i can give you description also: Ward engineer: 5% Assistant Exexutive Engineer: 4% Executive Engineer- 5%. Supertendent Engineer-3% Chief Engineer -2% For getting the tender alloted  -5% Third Party inspection -2% Lab Certification-3% Accounts: from P1 to Chief accounts-11% Head office: 5%   at the end of 2 years a contractor receive the bill.  if You are very very very lucky 6% you have to pay canara bank for Hundi to discount your bill. i say a BBMP contractor gets his bill after 2 years paying this 45% kick backs. A contractor invest -receives after 2 years. An BBMP official doesn't invest anything  but he takes kick back instantly. So just imagine what quality you can expect on roads bachoa amara india ko from this corrupt officials & Rog Politicians. thank you K N Jagadesh kumar 09845500932 RTI activist/LL.B      On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:48 PM, SHASHI KUMAR.A.R. <rudreshtechnology@gmail.com> wrote: In india what ever the certificates issued by the certificates like ISO , BSI and other quality certificates issued by labs are taking money , some times the goods without any certification may having good qulality and life , For example we are staying in silcon city , But none of the roads of bangalore are without humps , bumps , pot holes , 365 days digging by various agencies like water ,sanitary , electricity  telephone , internet , optical fibre etc , one of the citizen asked the bangalore nagarapalike regarding number of pot holes and size , our engineers are very clever they counted and given the information  the amount spent is only 30% of the estimate remaining is paid interms of kickbacks by contractors this is the fate of great bangalore , they who will insure the roads , but the persons using roads must  be compulsorly insured  ARS KUMAR. BE LLB MA JOURNALISM  RTI Activist  On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Dr.M.C SINDHUR <drmcsindhur@gmail.com> wrote: Respected all sirs/Madam,   Thanks all for kind valuable reply and guidance . I am resident of Hubli in Karnataka the fact is Our city Corporation has got ISO certification since last 3 years ceertificate was purchased in 2006 by Paying Rs.5.90,000/- for three years and Rs .1,42,500/- presnt 3 years The ISO certification has no roll in administration / powers for providing better civic facilities nor any thing good happening for city.The Civic body only  murmers about ISO and says we are ISO certified and our services are good.But in reality ISO certificates are useless piece of papers purchased for money by government offices by tax payers money .The Karnataka government has no gazette for obtaing ISO certificates for civic bodies. There is no law in force by state government  but show is going on for buying ISO certificates. The foriegn company opens offices in metro /major cities and offers service of issueing ISO certificates with veriying rates from lacs to crores being exchanged from public exchequer.ISO certificates are issued for money and they are not under the ambit of law in karanataka. The FERA regulations must be checked enforced to check the illigal transaction from international companies operating in India under these fictious names for dodging the government agencies for money.   Dr.M.C.Sindhur Hubli On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:14 AM, sandeep kumar <drsandgupta@gmail.com> wrote: Please send rti to MInistry of consumer affairs. in it also write a note that I do not exactly know who is to be sent this rti application and transfer it under 6(3) if it does not concern your office. On 12/8/10, Dr.M.C SINDHUR <drmcsindhur@gmail.com> wrote: > To, > Dear members of Humjanenge group, > > SUB:    ISO Certificates issued from international agencies obtained by > Government agencies /Bodies by paying tax payers money. > > Respected Sir, > > I would like know and seek help of experts in using RTI . > > How to know and extract information under RTI for legal piont of view that > The  Government  /State / central Organisations / Bodies seeking ISO > CERTIFICATES from international agencies .The Government agencies are > spending  tax payers money to buy /Purchasing for huge sums such > certificates ? Is there any regulation for obtaining ISO certificates from > International agecies. > > whether ISO certifying agencies are recognised by Union Government of India > / States under the Law.? > > What are the propcedures to be followed under Law of Authority and rules > /regulations/ guidelines framed by Government Of India /State Governments >  under the > contitutional amendments made to Laws /Acts/Notifications/Ordinance to get > Clearances to certify  of government agecies /Bodies by Interantional > accredition /auditing agencies./Gazette Notification/ Amendments /Cabinet > approavals/ Approval from Lokasabha / Rajyasabha through Bills and competant > authorities of Finance Department for allowing payment being made to such > international agencies? Service tax norms for the services offered under > such certificates > > What are the stauotory /Contitutional requirements mandetory for obtaing ISO > certifictes from international agencies in india for Central / State > Government agencies? > > If not under the Law Of Authority  prescribed by Indain /State Government > Laws /Acts In force Law  can they be called illigal? > > > Regards > > Thanking you > > Your's Faithfully > > Dr.M.C.Sindhur > VIDYANAGAR > Hubli-21 > -- Dr. Sandeep Kumar Gupta 989, Sector 15-A, Opposite bishnoi Colony, Hisar-125001, INDIA Phone: 91-99929-31181 -- K N Jagadesh Kumar 9845500932 jkgroup999@gmail.com