Re: [HumJanenge] UNITY and Unification in RTI movement

Dear Ravi

> Incidently, if I remember correct, it was Tiwari who has been going around,
> travelling and staying at IOC's expense, giving lectures to IOC officials
> how to 'handle' rti applications.

I think you are confusing ANT with IC(MM.Ansari).

>How naive of you! If writing an article or platform speeches were any
>criteria for inherant goodness

At the time (2004), RTI Act was not in place, and neither was ANT
("author is a former bureaucrat")

http://rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_AT_A_2010_000683_M_47495.pdf
What is the specific problem you have with this order ? Ex-facie it
seems that ANT has ruled in your favour on both (?) counts.

Sarbajit
(PS: replying to posts like this don't count in your tally)

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Ravindran P M <pmravindran@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Sarabjit
>
> How naive of you! If writing an article or platform speeches were any
> criteria for inherant goodness then can you criticie any politician ever. it
> is not what people say or write but what they do that counts. I have read
> many reports of the then CIC, kerala harpijg on teh goodness/greatness of
> RTI but I have petitioned personally and collectively to the Gov to remove
> him for his treason. I had also peitioned the Prez to remove wajahat after I
> had received his first order in one of my appeals.
>
> Regarding Tiwari, I have just participated in a hearing through video
> conference and I know that he is also a fraud.
> Incidently there were two appeals against SBI that I had submitted on the
> same day (7/7/2010) but I do not know how Tiwari had taken up only one for
> hearing on 22/11/2010.
>
> Incidently, if I remember correct, it was Tiwari who has been going around,
> travelling and staying at IOC's expense, giving lectures to IOC officials
> how to 'handle' rti applications.
>
> regards n bw
>
> ravi
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Ravi
>>
>> I think you are badly misinformed. Mr. Tiwari should be placed very
>> high on the list of heroes of RTI. It is Mr. Wajahat Habibullah who
>> should head the list of RTI "traitors" with Mr. Shailesh Gandhi coming
>> a very close second.
>>
>> For your information I am attaching an article of Mr Tiwari published
>> in 2004. Please read it.
>>
>> I concede that Mr Tiwari was not very popular among RTI activists.
>> This is because honest, forthright and upright people are not very
>> well like by the weaklings, fools and corrupt. There was a systematic
>> campaign against Mr Tiwari organised by NGOs like the NCPRI who had
>> the free run of Mr Habibullah's office for their misuse.
>>
>> After Mr Tiwari's brief innings as CIC, I am happy top observe that
>> the perception of him has changed. He has played a crucial role as
>> night watchman, and it is hoped that IC-SM carries on in setting RTI's
>> houses in order.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Ravindran P M <pmravindran@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > A N Tiwariji? He is the first on the list of the traitors! The rti act
>> > has
>> > been put on ventilator by the info commissioners and judges.
>> >
>> > regards n bw
>> >
>> > ravi
>> >
>> > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:43 PM, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> To all members
>> >>
>> >> I am grateful to this group's owner "PMK" for taking swift action
>> >> against disruptive members. I hope he continues without need for
>> >> further reminders / complaints.
>> >>
>> >> The need of the hour is unity among active concerned citizens.
>> >> Constantly focusing on personality based issues cannot lead to
>> >> anything meaningful or constructive. At the same time it is also
>> >> necessary to send a powerful message that people of India are not
>> >> fools and wont tolerate inefficiency, corruption and deceit by public
>> >> servants.
>> >>
>> >> We must strictly focus on the root causes of the problems that ail RTI
>> >> movement..Let me list the one I see as the biggest problem, (members
>> >> are urged to contribute their own to this list).
>> >>
>> >> 1) The prime problem is that RTI movement is riddled with Mir Jafars
>> >> (or traitors to RTI cause). These quislings who masquerade as
>> >> saints/leaders of RTI are exclusively former govt servants with dodgy
>> >> records/facing corruption charges who resigned or were forced out of
>> >> service. The list of these people is so long, and their command of
>> >> English language and misuse of RTI groups and media so good, that CIC
>> >> A.N.Tiwariji identified this group of 'haramis' as the biggest threat
>> >> to the RTI movement.
>> >>
>> >> Sarbajit
>> >
>> >
>
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