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Saturday, April 5, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] Corruption doesn't look like a big issue for the majority

Dear Friends

In my view if population is controlled then corruption will also come under control. We need a govt who can take a stand on this issue.

Less population----> less consumption ----->less corruption.

please ignore my view if you disagree.

WISE MEN UNITE

Sangeeta Tomar

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Poonam Agarwal <poonam.agarwal88@gmail.com> wrote:

Repected all...i fully agree with sangeeta ...if corruption is controllled many many issued will get solved ....Dr Varsha is wrong....Less populated species get extinct... more populated contries are more developped..india is under developed due to corruption ...black money is not due to population but it is due to corruption ..if we bring back black money we can feed 100 corore more population ...

corruption is root cause of under development ...

On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Varsha Baweja <varsukv@gmail.com> wrote:

in addition to this no one is talking about population control which is the key issue in India,

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Ravi George <ravi@paradigm.in> wrote:

All,

Judging from what comes through the media, it seems as though only about 5 to 10 % of today’s electorate in India are concerned about corruption.

The major issues seem to be Price Rise, Development, Drinking water, Electric Power, Unemployment etc. I now feel that these issues have to be given more importance than a set of people always trying to find fault with any large money transactions.

Regards
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Re: [IAC#RG] Corruption doesn't look like a big issue for the majority

Could the august members through crowdsourcing come up with a reasonable document on proposed policy and comprehensive workable action plan? SPM
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Re: [IAC#RG] Corruption doesn't look like a big issue for the majority

I agree up to next 4 and half yrs we will talk of curruption and criminalisation media and politiscians will talk about but when election comes both will start talking abut it and poll surveys are done in favour of parties who spends black money

On 5 Apr 2014 19:15, "Poonam Agarwal" <poonam.agarwal88@gmail.com> wrote:

Repected all...i fully agree with sangeeta ...if corruption is controllled many many issued will get solved ....Dr Varsha is wrong....Less populated species get extinct... more populated contries are more developped..india is under developed due to corruption ...black money is not due to population but it is due to corruption ..if we bring back black money we can feed 100 corore more population ...

corruption is root cause of under development ...

On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Varsha Baweja <varsukv@gmail.com> wrote:

in addition to this no one is talking about population control which is the key issue in India,

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Ravi George <ravi@paradigm.in> wrote:

All,

Judging from what comes through the media, it seems as though only about 5 to 10 % of today’s electorate in India are concerned about corruption.

The major issues seem to be Price Rise, Development, Drinking water, Electric Power, Unemployment etc. I now feel that these issues have to be given more importance than a set of people always trying to find fault with any large money transactions.

Regards
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Re: [IAC#RG] Corruption doesn't look like a big issue for the majority

JSK. Most of the media is paid by vested interests and do not highlight the real truth about the top corrupt leaders. They are blinded with bribes and short term interests, thus digging graves for their own present and future generations.

It should not be difficult for people to see who is talking for the country, its people and in the interests of people. Top corrupt leaders and media wants to stop patriots like N. Modi, Dr, S. Swamy and Baba Ramdev, who talk about India first.

While the patriots talk about India and India first, corrupt Congies and other corrupt leaders have only one agenda and that is just to stop Modi, by hook or crook. AAP, installed and bribed by Congies to confuse people, could not find corruption with Congie leaders and is spending full time to fight against patriots like Modi.

In a situation like this, it is the duty and "Kartavya Karm" for all patriots to ask their friends and relatives not to sit idle at home, and do their own "Karvatya Karm" by going out and vote for Modi and his party, if they wish to see India strong. Regards.

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Poonam Agarwal <poonam.agarwal88@gmail.com> wrote:

Repected all...i fully agree with sangeeta ...if corruption is controllled many many issued will get solved ....Dr Varsha is wrong....Less populated species get extinct... more populated contries are more developped..india is under developed due to corruption ...black money is not due to population but it is due to corruption ..if we bring back black money we can feed 100 corore more population ...

corruption is root cause of under development ...

On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Varsha Baweja <varsukv@gmail.com> wrote:

in addition to this no one is talking about population control which is the key issue in India,

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Ravi George <ravi@paradigm.in> wrote:

All,

Judging from what comes through the media, it seems as though only about 5 to 10 % of today’s electorate in India are concerned about corruption.

The major issues seem to be Price Rise, Development, Drinking water, Electric Power, Unemployment etc. I now feel that these issues have to be given more importance than a set of people always trying to find fault with any large money transactions.

Regards
Ravi George
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[IAC#RG] Fwd: Attn: Grievance Officer "Indiatimes.com"

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ELECTRONICALLY SIGNED COMMUNICATION per Section 2(1)(ta) Information Technology Act 2000 r/w Rule 3(4) of Information Technology (Intermediaries Guidelines) Rules, 2011 issued for redressal of grievance under the laws of India.

To:
The Grievance Officer / Mr. Anand Vaishnav,
(appointed under Information Technology (Intermediaries Guidelines) Rules, 2011)
INDIATIMES.COM

Sir,

Sub: Fabricated story "Ford Foundation, Modi link stumps IAC leader"

Please refer the webpage shared / uploaded at communication link (URL:)
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/lok-sabha-elections-2014/news/Ford-Foundation-Modi-link-stumps-IAC-leader/articleshow/33194345.cms

The webpage content published by you is baseless, inaccurate, defamatory and a fiction fabricated by your website for sensationalism. IAC is a strictly non-political movement and does not indulge in actions such as you have described. It seems that mischievous elements are out to malign / impersonate our anti-corruption movement by misrepresenting public disclosures on IAC's websites.

The said person named in the story, Nitin Chavan, is not known to us, and is not a part of India Against Corruption movement ("IAC"). As such he is hardly an "IAC Leader" as mischievously headlined in your story, or else you may establish the same to our satisfaction.

REJOINDER: If it is true that Ford Foundation has given money to Gujarat Government or its agencies, the official statement of India Against Corruption is that M/s Ford Foundation should be expelled from India if their action(s) is illegal, and that all persons in Gujarat Government who received or accepted any illegal monies from Ford Foundation must be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Accordingly, kindly retract / correct your story and print IAC's rejoinder. within 36 hours as prescribed in IT(IG) Rules 2011, as continuance of the story on your website is affecting the IAC and may lead to grievance escalation / claims on you.

With best wishes

Yours faithfully

Sarbajit Roy
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Re: [IAC#RG] Corruption doesn't look like a big issue for the majority

Many people are talking of controling of Population.We agree with them.What about people required to work in fields for growing

agriculture produce.people employed in Industry, Banks, Income Tax Department, Sales Tax Department, Revenue Department, Auto Rickshaw Drivers, Taxi Drivers, Tractor Drivers, Maid Servants, doctors, Workers for Corporate Sector.

What has happened to maid Servant hired by Devyani Khobargade,an IAS Officer.People employed in Police, Defense, Air Force etc.

The people employed in Bollywood, Tollywood, Coolies and Venders for providing many services.

People never demanded any Job from Central and State Governments.

There are many qualified Doctors, Engineers, Technocrats have migrated from here to other part of the World.

Many unskilled workers are employed at Dubai, Muskat, Basra, United States of America, United Kingdom, Germany, France, Russia

Japan, Korea etc belonging to India.

Warm regards,

Rakshpal Abrol
Consumer Activist
9820203154
rakshpal.abrol@yahoo.co.in

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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Corruption doesn't look like a big issue for the majority

in addition to this no one is talking about population control which is the key issue in India,

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Ravi George <ravi@paradigm.in> wrote:

All,

Judging from what comes through the media, it seems as though only about 5 to 10 % of today's electorate in India are concerned about corruption.

The major issues seem to be Price Rise, Development, Drinking water, Electric Power, Unemployment etc. I now feel that these issues have to be given more importance than a set of people always trying to find fault with any large money transactions.

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Re: [IAC#RG] Corruption doesn't look like a big issue for the majority

Repected all...i fully agree with sangeeta ...if corruption is controllled many many issued will get solved ....Dr Varsha is wrong....Less populated species get extinct... more populated contries are more developped..india is under developed due to corruption ...black money is not due to population but it is due to corruption ..if we bring back black money we can feed 100 corore more population ...

corruption is root cause of under development ...

On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Varsha Baweja <varsukv@gmail.com> wrote:

in addition to this no one is talking about population control which is the key issue in India,

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Ravi George <ravi@paradigm.in> wrote:

All,

Judging from what comes through the media, it seems as though only about 5 to 10 % of today’s electorate in India are concerned about corruption.

The major issues seem to be Price Rise, Development, Drinking water, Electric Power, Unemployment etc. I now feel that these issues have to be given more importance than a set of people always trying to find fault with any large money transactions.

Regards
Ravi George
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Re: [IAC#RG] Corruption doesn't look like a big issue for the majority

Yes. But Tamil Nadu, China and Thailand are glaring exceptions to what you say. Rampant corruption with lots of development...

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> On 05-Apr-2014, at 4:20 pm, "Sangeetabhassin" <sangeetabhasin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Remember,
> If corruption is controlled most of the issues like price rise, development, drinking water etc etc will be taken care of. This is because tax payers money will be well spent.
>
>
> Sangeeta bhasin
> 98202 36048
>
>> On 03-Apr-2014, at 12:21, Ravi George <ravi@paradigm.in> wrote:
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Judging from what comes through the media, it seems as though only about 5 to 10 % of today's electorate in India are concerned about corruption.
>>
>> The major issues seem to be Price Rise, Development, Drinking water, Electric Power, Unemployment etc. I now feel that these issues have to be given more importance than a set of people always trying to find fault with any large money transactions.
>
>> Regards
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Re: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

Is the source of income not supposed to be indicated in the affidavit? Then it could be figured out from IT returns only. Spm
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

One of the Candidate for Aseembly Election in Arunachal and his
dependents have earned Rs.4.54 crores in last 5 years as compared to
the affidavit filed in 2009.His known source of income is not known.

How and with whom,can we lodge the complaint against him?

Regards,

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On 4/3/14, Rustom Dalal <rrpdalal@hotmail.com> wrote:
> WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN PROFILES OF CANDIDATES, HIGHLIGHTING
> ACHIEVEMENTS FOR THEIR LAST CONSTITUENCY AND CRIMINAL RECORD/ALLEGATIONS IF
> ANY
> RUSTOM DALAL
>
>
>
> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 12:35:55 +0530
> From: mjkhanalig@gmail.com
> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash
>
> Dear SR sir. Keep posted regarding d developments on this front. Regards
> On Mar 31, 2014 1:27 AM, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> To:
>
> Mr. Ajay Sharma,
>
> Rajiv Gandhi Foundation
>
> Jawahar Bhawan, Dr. Rajendra Prasad Road
>
> New Delhi 110001
>
>
>
> Dear Sir
>
>
>
> We have come to know that a cash deposit in foreign currency for about
>
> Rs.1.24 crores was credited into account of M/s RGF on 31-03.2013 to
>
> reconcile certain personal expenses incurred abroad for Office
>
> Bearer(s) of RGF and is now in form of FD with Bank.
>
>
>
> We would be obliged to know if the said amount will be reflected in
>
> the personal name(s) of the concerned office bearer / trustee if
>
> he/she is standing for the Parliamentary elections, and also the
>
> source of the foreign currency/funds.
>
>
>
> Kindly revert ASAP as India Against Corruption is preparing its
>
> profile-list of Parliamentary candidates for circulation among its
>
> membership.
>
>
>
> With best wishes
>
>
>
> Sarbajit
>
> National Convenor
>
> India Against Corruption
>
>
>
> cc: to all IAC members
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[IAC#RG] Fwd: Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

Dear IAC subscribers,

Mr. Ajay Sharma of Rajiv Gandhi Foundation has replied .
As he is not a list member, his reply is forwarded below,
and I shall be replying to him separately. In case any
of our subscribers have inputs, please email me/the list.

Sarbajit

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ajay Sharma <ajay@rgfindia.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 12:32:31 +0530
Subject: RE: Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash
To: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>, indiaresists
<indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>

Dear Mr Roy,

At the outset, we state that the contents of your E-mail are baseless,
devoid of any truth. The tenor of the mail is not only incorrect but based
on surmises and conjectures.

We are unaware of your credentials, identity, bona fides and therefore do
not wish to communicate further as it is apparent that your mail is in the
nature of a phishing enquiry.

We consider this issue closed from our end.

Regards

Ajay Sharma

-----Original Message-----
From: Sarbajit Roy [mailto:sroy.mb@gmail.com]
Sent: 31 March 2014 01:17
To: ajay@rgfindia.com; indiaresists
Subject: Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

To:
Mr. Ajay Sharma,
Rajiv Gandhi Foundation
Jawahar Bhawan, Dr. Rajendra Prasad Road
New Delhi 110001

Dear Sir

We have come to know that a cash deposit in foreign currency for about
Rs.1.24 crores was credited into account of M/s RGF on 31-03.2013 to
reconcile certain personal expenses incurred abroad for Office
Bearer(s) of RGF and is now in form of FD with Bank.

We would be obliged to know if the said amount will be reflected in
the personal name(s) of the concerned office bearer / trustee if
he/she is standing for the Parliamentary elections, and also the
source of the foreign currency/funds.

Kindly revert ASAP as India Against Corruption is preparing its
profile-list of Parliamentary candidates for circulation among its
membership.

With best wishes

Sarbajit
National Convenor
India Against Corruption

cc: to all IAC members

Friday, April 4, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] Corruption doesn't look like a big issue for the majority

in addition to this no one is talking about population control which is the key issue in India,

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Ravi George <ravi@paradigm.in> wrote:

All,

Judging from what comes through the media, it seems as though only about 5 to 10 % of today’s electorate in India are concerned about corruption.

The major issues seem to be Price Rise, Development, Drinking water, Electric Power, Unemployment etc. I now feel that these issues have to be given more importance than a set of people always trying to find fault with any large money transactions.

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Re: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

One of the Candidate for Aseembly Election in Arunachal and his
dependents have earned Rs.4.54 crores in last 5 years as compared to
the affidavit filed in 2009.His known source of income is not known.

How and with whom,can we lodge the complaint against him?

Regards,

B.Ama

On 4/3/14, Rustom Dalal <rrpdalal@hotmail.com> wrote:
> WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN PROFILES OF CANDIDATES, HIGHLIGHTING
> ACHIEVEMENTS FOR THEIR LAST CONSTITUENCY AND CRIMINAL RECORD/ALLEGATIONS IF
> ANY
> RUSTOM DALAL
>
>
>
> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 12:35:55 +0530
> From: mjkhanalig@gmail.com
> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash
>
> Dear SR sir. Keep posted regarding d developments on this front. Regards
> On Mar 31, 2014 1:27 AM, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> To:
>
> Mr. Ajay Sharma,
>
> Rajiv Gandhi Foundation
>
> Jawahar Bhawan, Dr. Rajendra Prasad Road
>
> New Delhi 110001
>
>
>
> Dear Sir
>
>
>
> We have come to know that a cash deposit in foreign currency for about
>
> Rs.1.24 crores was credited into account of M/s RGF on 31-03.2013 to
>
> reconcile certain personal expenses incurred abroad for Office
>
> Bearer(s) of RGF and is now in form of FD with Bank.
>
>
>
> We would be obliged to know if the said amount will be reflected in
>
> the personal name(s) of the concerned office bearer / trustee if
>
> he/she is standing for the Parliamentary elections, and also the
>
> source of the foreign currency/funds.
>
>
>
> Kindly revert ASAP as India Against Corruption is preparing its
>
> profile-list of Parliamentary candidates for circulation among its
>
> membership.
>
>
>
> With best wishes
>
>
>
> Sarbajit
>
> National Convenor
>
> India Against Corruption
>
>
>
> cc: to all IAC members
>
>
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Re: [IAC#RG] Corruption doesn't look like a big issue for the majority

Ravi ji,you are right.As one sees if we address the issue of development,in the long run the other issues mentioned by you quite correctly wld be taken into consideration.
Jst harping on corruption, which is ofcouse present,what next then the streets.
Thanks to all on this list for relevant discussion.Need of the hour.
Regards.

On 3 Apr 2014 21:41, "Ravi George" <ravi@paradigm.in> wrote:

All,

Judging from what comes through the media, it seems as though only about 5 to 10 % of today’s electorate in India are concerned about corruption.

The major issues seem to be Price Rise, Development, Drinking water, Electric Power, Unemployment etc. I now feel that these issues have to be given more importance than a set of people always trying to find fault with any large money transactions.

Regards
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Thursday, April 3, 2014

RE: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

4/4/14

Dear Sir,
Is your interest in profiles of candidates connected with RGF or all candidates fighting elections all over the country?
Candidates connected with RGF are only a few. Mrs Sonia Gandhi has already filed her nomination and affidavit,details of which are already in public domain. Rahul Gandhi will file the nomination any day alongiwth affidavit.Perhaps it is pending for domicile certificate as reported in press.
If it is for all candidates of all parties,it is a tall order. I wonder if this forum is equiped to do it. You have to get from EC website.
Regds
JKGaur

From: rrpdalal@hotmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 00:27:00 +0530
Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN PROFILES OF CANDIDATES, HIGHLIGHTING ACHIEVEMENTS FOR THEIR LAST CONSTITUENCY AND CRIMINAL RECORD/ALLEGATIONS IF ANY

RUSTOM DALAL

Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 12:35:55 +0530
From: mjkhanalig@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

Dear SR sir. Keep posted regarding d developments on this front. Regards

On Mar 31, 2014 1:27 AM, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

To:
Mr. Ajay Sharma,
Rajiv Gandhi Foundation
Jawahar Bhawan, Dr. Rajendra Prasad Road
New Delhi 110001

Dear Sir

We have come to know that a cash deposit in foreign currency for about
Rs.1.24 crores was credited into account of M/s RGF on 31-03.2013 to
reconcile certain personal expenses incurred abroad for Office
Bearer(s) of RGF and is now in form of FD with Bank.

We would be obliged to know if the said amount will be reflected in
the personal name(s) of the concerned office bearer / trustee if
he/she is standing for the Parliamentary elections, and also the
source of the foreign currency/funds.

Kindly revert ASAP as India Against Corruption is preparing its
profile-list of Parliamentary candidates for circulation among its
membership.

With best wishes

Sarbajit
National Convenor
India Against Corruption

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Re: [IAC#RG] Corruption doesn't look like a big issue for the majority

Remember,
If corruption is controlled most of the issues like price rise, development, drinking water etc etc will be taken care of. This is because tax payers money will be well spent.

Sangeeta bhasin
98202 36048

> On 03-Apr-2014, at 12:21, Ravi George <ravi@paradigm.in> wrote:
>
>
> All,
>
> Judging from what comes through the media, it seems as though only about 5 to 10 % of today's electorate in India are concerned about corruption.
>
> The major issues seem to be Price Rise, Development, Drinking water, Electric Power, Unemployment etc. I now feel that these issues have to be given more importance than a set of people always trying to find fault with any large money transactions.
>

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Wednesday, April 2, 2014

[IAC#RG] Corruption doesn't look like a big issue for the majority

All,

Judging from what comes through the media, it seems as though only about 5 to 10 % of today's electorate in India are concerned about corruption.

The major issues seem to be Price Rise, Development, Drinking water, Electric Power, Unemployment etc. I now feel that these issues have to be given more importance than a set of people always trying to find fault with any large money transactions.

Regards
Ravi George

RE: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN PROFILES OF CANDIDATES, HIGHLIGHTING ACHIEVEMENTS FOR THEIR LAST CONSTITUENCY AND CRIMINAL RECORD/ALLEGATIONS IF ANY

RUSTOM DALAL

Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 12:35:55 +0530
From: mjkhanalig@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

Dear SR sir. Keep posted regarding d developments on this front. Regards

On Mar 31, 2014 1:27 AM, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

To:
Mr. Ajay Sharma,
Rajiv Gandhi Foundation
Jawahar Bhawan, Dr. Rajendra Prasad Road
New Delhi 110001

Dear Sir

We have come to know that a cash deposit in foreign currency for about
Rs.1.24 crores was credited into account of M/s RGF on 31-03.2013 to
reconcile certain personal expenses incurred abroad for Office
Bearer(s) of RGF and is now in form of FD with Bank.

We would be obliged to know if the said amount will be reflected in
the personal name(s) of the concerned office bearer / trustee if
he/she is standing for the Parliamentary elections, and also the
source of the foreign currency/funds.

Kindly revert ASAP as India Against Corruption is preparing its
profile-list of Parliamentary candidates for circulation among its
membership.

With best wishes

Sarbajit
National Convenor
India Against Corruption

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Re: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

Dear SR sir. Keep posted regarding d developments on this front. Regards

On Mar 31, 2014 1:27 AM, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

To:
Mr. Ajay Sharma,
Rajiv Gandhi Foundation
Jawahar Bhawan, Dr. Rajendra Prasad Road
New Delhi 110001

Dear Sir

We have come to know that a cash deposit in foreign currency for about
Rs.1.24 crores was credited into account of M/s RGF on 31-03.2013 to
reconcile certain personal expenses incurred abroad for Office
Bearer(s) of RGF and is now in form of FD with Bank.

We would be obliged to know if the said amount will be reflected in
the personal name(s) of the concerned office bearer / trustee if
he/she is standing for the Parliamentary elections, and also the
source of the foreign currency/funds.

Kindly revert ASAP as India Against Corruption is preparing its
profile-list of Parliamentary candidates for circulation among its
membership.

With best wishes

Sarbajit
National Convenor
India Against Corruption

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Tuesday, April 1, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

Respected Pavitar Singhji

As we both observed some things don't add up here.
Now the issue as to why they hold so much unutilised FC.
The RGF is essentially the private fund of Gandhi-Parivar.

In years when they are out of power, they transfer their
favorite IAS lackeys into RGF (like Pulok Chatterjee).

In the years they are out of power these FCs are used to
pay for all the things abroad that Madam, Chairperson NAC
otherwise gets at our cost.

Sarbajit

On 4/1/14, Pavitar Singh <pavitar1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Respected Sarabjit Ji,
>
> I have gone through the pdf version Form of RGF attached with the mail.
> There is no contribution receipt during the year as per the form. It is
> clear from the Col 2(ii) (a) and (b) that the RGF earned interest from bank
> for withholding the fund in their accounts both running and FDRs etc. That
> is why they had passed only single entry on 31.03.2013 for interest earned
> from the bank.
>
> The confusion seems due to the fact that they are showing the figures in
> cash and in kind terms. It seems that Cash include bank balances. The same
> may be asked for verification that the fund in banks as on 31.03.2013.
>
> The question is why the said trust is holding so much money received from
> foreign contribution and not utilising the same for whole year. The
> contribution/ donations received from donor for specific purposes and RGF
> seem failed to utililse the fund in effective manners.
>
> Thanks & regards
> Pavitar Singh
> Jalandhar
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Devinder ji
>>
>> The Trust Law (will have to check if RGF is a public or a private
>> trust) is clear that trustees cannot misuse trust assets for personal
>> purposes.
>>
>> As we have great many CAs and other finance professionals on this
>> list, they can correct me if I say it is clear that the return filed
>> by RGF is just a dummy return to be filed within due date, and
>> thereafter it will either go missing or some supplementary return will
>> be filed to fill in the blanks.
>>
>> Consider this, no bank mentioned, no names of donor(s) mentioned, all
>> FCR deposits only from India, Column A (1.24 CR) and Column B (nil)
>> add up to rs. 2.5+ Cr. Date of transactions are 31.03.2013 so these
>> are probably both book entries to cover up missing funds. Now RGF
>> will be screwed if somebody asks MHA for the bank transaction details.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>>
>> On 3/31/14, devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com
>> <devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>> > If the money has come into the trust for disbursement of outstanding
>> > expenses, incurred essentially for the and on behalf of the trust, why
>> > should the amount appear in any one's personal account or why should
>> > it
>> > reflect as his/her income or asset. The trust law is very clear on
>> > this.
>> > Devinder
>> >
>> >
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Re: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

Respected Sarabjit Ji,

I have gone through the pdf version Form of RGF attached with the mail. There is no contribution receipt during the year as per the form. It is clear from the Col 2(ii) (a) and (b) that the RGF earned interest from bank for withholding the fund in their accounts both running and FDRs etc. That is why they had passed only single entry on 31.03.2013 for interest earned from the bank.

The confusion seems due to the fact that they are showing the figures in cash and in kind terms. It seems that Cash include bank balances. The same may be asked for verification that the fund in banks as on 31.03.2013.

The question is why the said trust is holding so much money received from foreign contribution and not utilising the same for whole year. The contribution/ donations received from donor for specific purposes and RGF seem failed to utililse the fund in effective manners.

Thanks & regards

Pavitar Singh

Jalandhar

On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Devinder ji

The Trust Law (will have to check if RGF is a public or a private
trust) is clear that trustees cannot misuse trust assets for personal
purposes.

As we have great many CAs and other finance professionals on this
list, they can correct me if I say it is clear that the return filed
by RGF is just a dummy return to be filed within due date, and
thereafter it will either go missing or some supplementary return will
be filed to fill in the blanks.

Consider this, no bank mentioned, no names of donor(s) mentioned, all
FCR deposits only from India, Column A (1.24 CR) and Column B (nil)
add up to rs. 2.5+ Cr. Date of transactions are 31.03.2013 so these
are probably both book entries to cover up missing funds. Now RGF
will be screwed if somebody asks MHA for the bank transaction details.

Sarbajit

On 3/31/14, devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com
<devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> If the money has come into the trust for disbursement of outstanding
> expenses, incurred essentially for the and on behalf of the trust, why
> should the amount appear in any one's personal account or why should it
> reflect as his/her income or asset. The trust law is very clear on this.
> Devinder
>
>
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Monday, March 31, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

Please keep updating on this topic to all members
Dr K S Elangbam

On 31 Mar 2014 21:44, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Devinder ji

The Trust Law (will have to check if RGF is a public or a private
trust) is clear that trustees cannot misuse trust assets for personal
purposes.

As we have great many CAs and other finance professionals on this
list, they can correct me if I say it is clear that the return filed
by RGF is just a dummy return to be filed within due date, and
thereafter it will either go missing or some supplementary return will
be filed to fill in the blanks.

Consider this, no bank mentioned, no names of donor(s) mentioned, all
FCR deposits only from India, Column A (1.24 CR) and Column B (nil)
add up to rs. 2.5+ Cr. Date of transactions are 31.03.2013 so these
are probably both book entries to cover up missing funds. Now RGF
will be screwed if somebody asks MHA for the bank transaction details.

Sarbajit

On 3/31/14, devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com
<devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> If the money has come into the trust for disbursement of outstanding
> expenses, incurred essentially for the and on behalf of the trust, why
> should the amount appear in any one's personal account or why should it
> reflect as his/her income or asset. The trust law is very clear on this.
> Devinder
>
>
>>________________________________

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Re: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

THANK YOU TO ALL

JAYA VINDHYALA, PRESIDENT, PUCL,AP

16-8-913/D, MALAKPET X ROAD, HYDERABAD, AP INDIA

On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Devinder ji

The Trust Law (will have to check if RGF is a public or a private
trust) is clear that trustees cannot misuse trust assets for personal
purposes.

As we have great many CAs and other finance professionals on this
list, they can correct me if I say it is clear that the return filed
by RGF is just a dummy return to be filed within due date, and
thereafter it will either go missing or some supplementary return will
be filed to fill in the blanks.

Consider this, no bank mentioned, no names of donor(s) mentioned, all
FCR deposits only from India, Column A (1.24 CR) and Column B (nil)
add up to rs. 2.5+ Cr. Date of transactions are 31.03.2013 so these
are probably both book entries to cover up missing funds. Now RGF
will be screwed if somebody asks MHA for the bank transaction details.

Sarbajit

On 3/31/14, devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com
<devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> If the money has come into the trust for disbursement of outstanding
> expenses, incurred essentially for the and on behalf of the trust, why
> should the amount appear in any one's personal account or why should it
> reflect as his/her income or asset. The trust law is very clear on this.
> Devinder
>
>
>>________________________________

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Re: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

Dear Devinder ji

The Trust Law (will have to check if RGF is a public or a private
trust) is clear that trustees cannot misuse trust assets for personal
purposes.

As we have great many CAs and other finance professionals on this
list, they can correct me if I say it is clear that the return filed
by RGF is just a dummy return to be filed within due date, and
thereafter it will either go missing or some supplementary return will
be filed to fill in the blanks.

Consider this, no bank mentioned, no names of donor(s) mentioned, all
FCR deposits only from India, Column A (1.24 CR) and Column B (nil)
add up to rs. 2.5+ Cr. Date of transactions are 31.03.2013 so these
are probably both book entries to cover up missing funds. Now RGF
will be screwed if somebody asks MHA for the bank transaction details.

Sarbajit

On 3/31/14, devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com
<devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> If the money has come into the trust for disbursement of outstanding
> expenses, incurred essentially for the and on behalf of the trust, why
> should the amount appear in any one's personal account or why should it
> reflect as his/her income or asset. The trust law is very clear on this.
> Devinder
>
>
>>________________________________

Sunday, March 30, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

If the money has come into the trust for disbursement of outstanding expenses, incurred essentially for the and on behalf of the trust, why should the amount appear in any one's personal account or why should it reflect as his/her income or asset. The trust law is very clear on this. Devinder

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Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

When and if you get a reply, do let us know .

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Subject: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

To:
Mr. Ajay Sharma,
Rajiv Gandhi Foundation
Jawahar Bhawan, Dr. Rajendra Prasad Road New Delhi 110001

Dear Sir

We have come to know that a cash deposit in foreign currency for about
Rs.1.24 crores was credited into account of M/s RGF on 31-03.2013 to
reconcile certain personal expenses incurred abroad for Office
Bearer(s) of RGF and is now in form of FD with Bank.

We would be obliged to know if the said amount will be reflected in the
personal name(s) of the concerned office bearer / trustee if he/she is
standing for the Parliamentary elections, and also the source of the foreign
currency/funds.

Kindly revert ASAP as India Against Corruption is preparing its profile-list
of Parliamentary candidates for circulation among its membership.

With best wishes

Sarbajit
National Convenor
India Against Corruption

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Re: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

Dear Mr Subramanian Swamy,

The info is in the public domain, and was uncovered by IAC's researchers
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=231650615R&by=2012-2013
I am attaching a PDF of what we downloaded from the MHA website.

We cannot make head nor tail of this contradictory document, perhaps
your team can decode it better than we can, and place it in public domain
appropriately. When I spoke to RGF, I was given the usual run-around and
somebody anonymous mumbled it was for settling some personal accounts.

best wshes

Sarbajit

On 3/31/14, Subramanian Swamy <swamy39@gmail.com> wrote:
> Keep me posted. Swamy
>
> On 31 March 2014 01:16, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> To:
>> Mr. Ajay Sharma,
>> Rajiv Gandhi Foundation
>> Jawahar Bhawan, Dr. Rajendra Prasad Road
>> New Delhi 110001
>>
>> Dear Sir
>>
>> We have come to know that a cash deposit in foreign currency for about
>> Rs.1.24 crores was credited into account of M/s RGF on 31-03.2013 to
>> reconcile certain personal expenses incurred abroad for Office
>> Bearer(s) of RGF and is now in form of FD with Bank.
>>
>> We would be obliged to know if the said amount will be reflected in
>> the personal name(s) of the concerned office bearer / trustee if
>> he/she is standing for the Parliamentary elections, and also the
>> source of the foreign currency/funds.
>>
>> Kindly revert ASAP as India Against Corruption is preparing its
>> profile-list of Parliamentary candidates for circulation among its
>> membership.
>>
>> With best wishes
>>
>> Sarbajit
>> National Convenor
>> India Against Corruption
>>
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RE: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

When and if you get a reply, do let us know .

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Subject: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

To:
Mr. Ajay Sharma,
Rajiv Gandhi Foundation
Jawahar Bhawan, Dr. Rajendra Prasad Road New Delhi 110001

Dear Sir

We have come to know that a cash deposit in foreign currency for about
Rs.1.24 crores was credited into account of M/s RGF on 31-03.2013 to
reconcile certain personal expenses incurred abroad for Office
Bearer(s) of RGF and is now in form of FD with Bank.

We would be obliged to know if the said amount will be reflected in the
personal name(s) of the concerned office bearer / trustee if he/she is
standing for the Parliamentary elections, and also the source of the foreign
currency/funds.

Kindly revert ASAP as India Against Corruption is preparing its profile-list
of Parliamentary candidates for circulation among its membership.

With best wishes

Sarbajit
National Convenor
India Against Corruption

cc: to all IAC members

Re: [IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

Keep me posted. Swamy

On 31 March 2014 01:16, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

To:
Mr. Ajay Sharma,
Rajiv Gandhi Foundation
Jawahar Bhawan, Dr. Rajendra Prasad Road
New Delhi 110001

Dear Sir

We have come to know that a cash deposit in foreign currency for about
Rs.1.24 crores was credited into account of M/s RGF on 31-03.2013 to
reconcile certain personal expenses incurred abroad for Office
Bearer(s) of RGF and is now in form of FD with Bank.

We would be obliged to know if the said amount will be reflected in
the personal name(s) of the concerned office bearer / trustee if
he/she is standing for the Parliamentary elections, and also the
source of the foreign currency/funds.

Kindly revert ASAP as India Against Corruption is preparing its
profile-list of Parliamentary candidates for circulation among its
membership.

With best wishes

Sarbajit
National Convenor
India Against Corruption

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[IAC#RG] Information on FC Donation of Rs. 1.24 Crs in cash

To:
Mr. Ajay Sharma,
Rajiv Gandhi Foundation
Jawahar Bhawan, Dr. Rajendra Prasad Road
New Delhi 110001

Dear Sir

We have come to know that a cash deposit in foreign currency for about
Rs.1.24 crores was credited into account of M/s RGF on 31-03.2013 to
reconcile certain personal expenses incurred abroad for Office
Bearer(s) of RGF and is now in form of FD with Bank.

We would be obliged to know if the said amount will be reflected in
the personal name(s) of the concerned office bearer / trustee if
he/she is standing for the Parliamentary elections, and also the
source of the foreign currency/funds.

Kindly revert ASAP as India Against Corruption is preparing its
profile-list of Parliamentary candidates for circulation among its
membership.

With best wishes

Sarbajit
National Convenor
India Against Corruption

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