Dear RTI Activists,
In continuation of my request for information, in reply to my RTI application ID no. 10393 dated 30.12.2010, to RCS, GNCTD, I havge received a reply as follows:
"You have requested to provide photocopies of affidavits submitted by 79 members of the Society to the President of the Society who in turn submitted
to RCS before final drw of lots of flats. The infomation pertains to Society record. The Society is not a public authority, hence your application
cannot be forwarded to society to provide you the information."
MY question is:
1. Is Registrar of Cooperative Societies, Govt. of NCT of De3lhi is not a public Authority? If it is, I have asked for information
which is with this Public Authority? I have never said that you forward my RTI application to the Society.
2. Is RCS office has no role to play as regards monitoring the activities of the Societies and seek RCS permission by se3nding relevant documents including
members' affidavits for final darw of lots?
3. I was the 80th member who was not allotted the flat. No reason is given by the RCS or the President of the Society
4. If RCS has no role, why 27 Coop. Group housing Socieites of Dwarka which held the draw themselves as RCS is not ready to send its representative
for the draw, should be given any notice for legal action against them? RCS is not ready to send its nominee for the draw despite Delhi High Court
Orders and instructions of the Cheif Minister of Delhi.
On hearing from RTI activists, I shall give immense material of corrupt practices to the Movement of RTI as well as Fight against Corruption or
India Against Corruption the subject of todays' RALLIES all over India.
JAI HIND
Hari Goyal
former Professor of Economics, LBS National
Academy of Administration, Mussaoorie (U.P.)
011- 2508 2239
Saturday, January 29, 2011
Re:: [HumJanenge] 111 days of HumJanenge
Thanks to all activitis and wish their best performances
S D Banerjee
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 23:31 IST RTI UNITY wrote:
>Dear members
>
>Today, 29.Jan.2011 the HumJanenge group celebrates auspicious 111 days
>on the Google platform.
>During this brief period "HJ" has become India's most outspoken and
>widely read RTI group with a broad and eclectic membership.
>Thanks and blessings go out to everyone involved in the RTI Unity project
>
>PMK1504
>Veeresh
>Sarbajit
>Ashish
>Sharmaji
>Raminder
>"Col X"
>and so many others
[rti4empowerment] Fw: Stand with Egypt
 Brave Egyptian protesters will determine in the coming hours whether tyranny or democracy prevails in Egypt and across the region. They've appealed for international solidarity – let's send them a massive response, and hold our governments accountable to stand with them too:  |
The protesters have appealed for international solidarity, but the dictatorship knows the power of unity at a time like this – they've desperately tried to cut Egyptians off from the world and each other by completely shutting down the internet and mobile networks.
Satellite and radio networks can still break through the regime blackout -- let's flood those airwaves with a massive cry of solidarity showing Egyptians that we stand with them, and that we'll hold our governments accountable to stand with them too. The situation is at a tipping point -- every hour counts -- click below to sign the solidarity message, and forward this email:
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/democracy_for_egypt/?vl
People power is sweeping the Middle East. In days, peaceful protesters brought down Tunisia's 30-year dictatorship. Now the protests are spreading to Egypt, Yemen, Jordan and beyond. This could be the Arab world's Berlin Wall moment. If tyranny falls in Egypt, a tidal wave of democracy could sweep the entire region.
Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak has tried to crush the rallies. But with incredible bravery and determination, the protesters keep coming.
There are moments when history is written not by the powerful, but by people. This is one of them. The actions of ordinary Egyptians in the coming hours will have a massive effect on their country, the region, and our world. Let's cheer them on with our own pledge to stand with them in their struggle:
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Mubarak's family has left the country, but last night he ordered the military into the streets. He's ominously promised 0 tolerance for what he calls 'chaos'. Either way, history will be made in the next few days. Let's make this the moment that shows every dictator on our planet that they cannot stand long against the courage of people united.
With hope and admiration for the Egyptian people,
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More Information:
Egypt unrest: Alert as mass protests loom
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12303564
Egyptian government shuts down the Internet
http://www.renesys.com/blog/2011/01/egypt-leaves-the-internet.shtml
North Africa: Will dominoes fall in the region?
http://allafrica.com/stories/201101280659.html
'Beginning of the end' for Egypt's Mubarak as son and wife flee
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/105117/20110126/beginning-of-the-end-for-egypt-s-mubarak-as-son-and-wife-flee.htm
Amnesty International condemns the crackdown on demonstrations
http://amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/egypt-must-stop-crackdown-protesters-2011-01-26
Regular updates are being posted by Egyptian activists here:
http://www.elshaheeed.co.uk
ACCESS campaign for digital freedom in Egypt:
https://www.accessnow.org/page/s/help-egypt
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Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Activists in Kolkata
There is Mrs. Gargi Ghosh, West Bengal Administrative Training
Institute, Kolkatta, she can tell who else are actively working int
RTI. Her email is
gargighosh1@yahoo.co.in .
Institute, Kolkatta, she can tell who else are actively working int
RTI. Her email is
gargighosh1@yahoo.co.in .
Pralhad Kachare
On 29/01/2011, Ashok R. Mansata <ashokaol@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,Can someone please suggest the name of any RTI expert in Kolkata with
> whom I can discuss some RTI related issues.
> Thanks,
> Ashok
>
>
>
>
>
--
---------------------------------------------------------
Pralhad Kachare
Director, Center for Public Policy,
YASHADA, Rajbhavan Complex,Baner Road, Pune-411007.02025608146, 9422750464
Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)
I am pleased with your effort and mission. Please let me know to join you at that point because I will have to come from Gurgaon. Regards, H.R. Bangia, Hony. Secretary, IIPA Haryana Regional Branch, And Consumer Affairs Activist, B-71A GF, Platinum Independent Floors, Ardee City, Gurgaon-122011 Mob.09811326670 --- On Sat, 29/1/11, Pratibha Shinde <loksamanway@gmail.com> wrote:
|
Re: [HumJanenge] 111 days of HumJanenge
it is very much needed as miscreatns have started shooting at( Lucknow).
At the same time I suggest that we must forms groups on soil at every subdivision of the country so that we can express a interstate solidarity.
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:08:46 +0530 wrote
>Dear members
Today, 29.Jan.2011 the HumJanenge group celebrates auspicious 111 days
on the Google platform.
During this brief period "HJ" has become India's most outspoken and
widely read RTI group with a broad and eclectic membership.
Thanks and blessings go out to everyone involved in the RTI Unity project
PMK1504
Veeresh
Sarbajit
Ashish
Sharmaji
Raminder
"Col X"
and so many others
At the same time I suggest that we must forms groups on soil at every subdivision of the country so that we can express a interstate solidarity.
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:08:46 +0530 wrote
>Dear members
Today, 29.Jan.2011 the HumJanenge group celebrates auspicious 111 days
on the Google platform.
During this brief period "HJ" has become India's most outspoken and
widely read RTI group with a broad and eclectic membership.
Thanks and blessings go out to everyone involved in the RTI Unity project
PMK1504
Veeresh
Sarbajit
Ashish
Sharmaji
Raminder
"Col X"
and so many others
Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)
Mr M K Gupta .
perhaps you do not know that sarbajit roy is not a gentlman .. secondly Sarabjit always uses his mother tongue to write his emails . so plz do not try to stp him from using words like "Haramis" and Sixers etc.
After all he has full rights to use his mother tongue.
Sarbajit plz do not worry . I love you so much .
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Govind... Hoping for better <hopegovind@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. Roy,
If you kick me off..nothing wrong will happen to me. I don't want any self publicity and I never intend to do so either. The language you have used is offensive. About Humjanenge group, you have to also accept that you have created this group for self publicity as original HumJanenge Group was on Yahoo and Started by late Shri Prakash Kardlay and Shri Shailesh Gandhi and many other prominent RTI activisit and citizen were there. If you remember you were "kicked off" from that group.
About other details, my contact no. and everything is part of my mail signature and why should I change it for you?
About purpose of the group, if you are really intend to discuss only decision of SIC/CIC you should have kept the messaging option in such a way that only after your approval mail posting would have been possible. You are self not adhering to group policy.
Whether it is lady or gentlemen you should not use such language which is not appropriate at all.
This is really sad to see such attitude from you. You must apologize for using such language to the lady. If she and her NGO think 500 KMs is long march there is nothing wrong. Mao itself has never defined the long march distances. For poor Adivasis for their rights, it might be long march.
Regards
Govind--
On 29 January 2011 14:23, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Do u think "Bakwaas Email" and "kick you off" type language should be used by a gentleman.
--- On Sat, 29/1/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 29 January, 2011, 2:05 PM
Dear Govind
I am now a moderator of this group. I am responsible for seeing that rules are adhered to and enforced. When people disregard our rules, I use language appropriate to their offence. The only reason I was not firmer with Ms. Pratiha was because she is a lady.
Incidentally, you are also hereby cautioned that self-publicity is against this group's regulations. Kindly modify your signature while posting to this list.
Warmly
Sarbajit
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Govind... Hoping for better <hopegovind@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sarabjit,
I don't think the language you have used is appropriate
On 29 January 2011 10:02, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Pratibha
When you describe your 500 km procession as a "Long March" you insult the memory of a great leader and his brave comrades during their long retreat. It is precisely because of such bakwaas emails (which incidentally has nothing to do with RTI) from NGOs promoting their programs that our members request to leave this group (see email from saikatd).
Hence we have decided to kick you off this group for insulting the memory of a great leader and military strategist.
Sarbajit
Moderator
______________________________
"The world suffers a lot. Not because of the violence of bad people,
But because of the silence of good people!"
--Napoleon
Govind- 9960704146
URL: http://www.wix.com/hopegovind/homepage
Blog: http://simplygovind.blogspot.com
Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Activists in Kolkata
Dear friends,
You can contact us for any RTI related actions.
With all best wishes.
Yours sincerely
Malay Dewanji
Mobile No. 9830082476
You can contact us for any RTI related actions.
With all best wishes.
Yours sincerely
Malay Dewanji
Mobile No. 9830082476
On 1/29/11, bimal khemani <bimal.khemani@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> IT IS MALAY BHATTACHARYA, MOB NO. 9231413834
>
>
> Bimal Khemani
> RTI activist
> ALIGARH-202001
> INDIA
> Mob:935-972-4625
>
> --- On Sat, 29/1/11, Ashok R. Mansata <ashokaol@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Ashok R. Mansata <ashokaol@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [HumJanenge] RTI Activists in Kolkata
> To: "Hum Janange" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, 29 January, 2011, 12:17 PM
>
>
>
>
> Hi all,Can someone please suggest the name of any RTI expert in Kolkata with
> whom I can discuss some RTI related issues.
> Thanks,
> Ashok
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Malay Dewanji
Hony. General Secretary, LAMP, Kolkata.
and
Hony. Secretary General, AIAVA, New Delhi.
Phone:919830082476
Re: [rti4empowerment] VERY IMPORTANT GROUP ANNOUNCEMENT
HELLO GUD EVE
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:11 PM, urvashi sharma <yaishwaryaj@gmail.com> wrote:
dear moderator ,
please dont unsubscribe me because i want to see the final dent to rti
with your forming of two mirrors of rti_india .
yahoo......yahoo....yahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
best regards
urvashi sharma
On 12/7/10, RTI4Emp <rti4empowerment.owner@gmail.com> wrote:
> To all esteemed members of RTI4EMPOWERMENT group.
>
> We apologize that we have not been able to interact with group members as
> much as other owners and moderators of RTI googlegroups have been doing.
>
> PLEASE NOTE:
>
> (1) This group is a member of RTI UNIFICATION ("RU") project, which
> comprises the following other groups
>
> (a) rti_india@yahoogroups
> (b) rti_india@googlegroups
> (c) humjanenge@googlegroups
>
> (2 All rules and regulations applicable to RTI UNIFICATION project also
> apply here. These are published on webpage of HumJanenge group
> http://groups.google.com/group/humjanenge/
>
> 3) Please do not repeat messages here which are posted to other RU groups,
> or attempt to contact our members outside of this group.
> Violation will lead to expulsion from the group.
>
> 4) In addition to the general RU rules, there is an additional rule for this
> group which will be strictly implemented.
>
> ANY MEMBER OF THIS GROUP WHO POSTS ANY SUBSTANTIVE MESSAGE WHATSOEVER TO
> RTI4EMPOWERMENT@YAHOOGROUPS WILL BE EXPELLED WITHOUT NOTICE FROM THIS GROUP.
>
> 5) In conclusion, we clarify that Mr. Dhirendra Krishna is not connected
> with the affairs of this group.
>
> List Owner
>
Re: [rti4empowerment] DEATH, THE AWARD OF HONESTY FOR HONEST CITIZENS AND WHISTLE BLOWERS.
THANKS
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:20 PM, SHASHI KUMAR.A.R. <rudreshtechnology@gmail.com> wrote:
RECENT KILLINGS OF WHISTLE BLOWERS AND RTI ACTVISTS BROUGHT A CONFUSION AMONG THE ACTIVISTS FIGHTING AGAINST COURRUPTION , CENTAL GOVT. IS NOT GIVING ANY IMPORTANCE TO PROTECT THE LIFE OF A PERSON WHO IS TRYING TO PROTECT THE NATION FROM COURRUPTION , WHAT IS THE FATE OF HONEST CITIZEN WHO IS FIGHTING AGINSTCORRUPITON , LAND MAFIA , OIL MAFIA , REAL ESTATE MAFIA , SAND MAFIA , MINING MAFIA ,WHO WILL PROTECT THE LIFE OF THE HONEST ACTIVIST , THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT AT ALL TAKING ANY STEPS TO CURB THE RECENT HAPPENINGS , I WILL PRAY WITH THE GOD TO GIVE PROTECT THE LIFE OF AN HONEST POOR CITIZEN WHO IS FIGHTING AGAINST CORRUPTIONSAVE INDIA , SAVE INDIA FROM CLUTCHES OF CORRUPTION
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:55 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
DEATH, THE AWARD OF HONESTY FOR HONEST CITIZENS AND WHISTLE BLOWERS.
M K Gupta
Now mafia can go to any extent to have its way and even murder the honest officers and whistle blowers. Oil mafia has burnt alive an honest officer Yashwant Sonawane, ADM. Govt. has declared Rs 25 lakhs to the berevered family of the Mr. Sonawane. Seven persons have been arrested for the murder of ADM.
In an other incident, an RTI activist Mr Amarnath Pandey, 55, an RTI activist and homocopathy dotor was shot at. In this case,, an FIR has been registered against three persons including a Block Development Offier. Pandey has tried to expose corruption in development block Ghorawal due to which govt issued a recovery order of Rs. 30 lakh from the concerned officers for misappropriation of funds. Last week also, Pandey was hit by a jeep when he was returning home on his scooter.
Meanwhile, demanding immediate arrest of attackers, Congress activists staged a sit-in Jubli crossing creating traffic jam in the Sonebhadra area.
Superintendent of Police, Deepak Kumar said that police have launched a manhunt to nab attackers.(Inputs from Timesnow.com)
Re: [rti4empowerment] Unsubscribe
hi
this is nitin............I want to friends with U...........LOVE U
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 5:22 PM, ankita anand <slamifyoucan@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)
Dear Mr. Roy,
If you kick me off..nothing wrong will happen to me. I don't want any self publicity and I never intend to do so either. The language you have used is offensive. About Humjanenge group, you have to also accept that you have created this group for self publicity as original HumJanenge Group was on Yahoo and Started by late Shri Prakash Kardlay and Shri Shailesh Gandhi and many other prominent RTI activisit and citizen were there. If you remember you were "kicked off" from that group.
About other details, my contact no. and everything is part of my mail signature and why should I change it for you?
About purpose of the group, if you are really intend to discuss only decision of SIC/CIC you should have kept the messaging option in such a way that only after your approval mail posting would have been possible. You are self not adhering to group policy.
Whether it is lady or gentlemen you should not use such language which is not appropriate at all.
This is really sad to see such attitude from you. You must apologize for using such language to the lady. If she and her NGO think 500 KMs is long march there is nothing wrong. Mao itself has never defined the long march distances. For poor Adivasis for their rights, it might be long march.
Regards
Govind
--
______________________________
"The world suffers a lot. Not because of the violence of bad people,
But because of the silence of good people!"
--Napoleon
Govind- 9960704146
URL: http://www.wix.com/hopegovind/homepage
Blog: http://simplygovind.blogspot.com
If you kick me off..nothing wrong will happen to me. I don't want any self publicity and I never intend to do so either. The language you have used is offensive. About Humjanenge group, you have to also accept that you have created this group for self publicity as original HumJanenge Group was on Yahoo and Started by late Shri Prakash Kardlay and Shri Shailesh Gandhi and many other prominent RTI activisit and citizen were there. If you remember you were "kicked off" from that group.
About other details, my contact no. and everything is part of my mail signature and why should I change it for you?
About purpose of the group, if you are really intend to discuss only decision of SIC/CIC you should have kept the messaging option in such a way that only after your approval mail posting would have been possible. You are self not adhering to group policy.
Whether it is lady or gentlemen you should not use such language which is not appropriate at all.
This is really sad to see such attitude from you. You must apologize for using such language to the lady. If she and her NGO think 500 KMs is long march there is nothing wrong. Mao itself has never defined the long march distances. For poor Adivasis for their rights, it might be long march.
Regards
Govind
On 29 January 2011 14:23, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Do u think "Bakwaas Email" and "kick you off" type language should be used by a gentleman.
--- On Sat, 29/1/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 29 January, 2011, 2:05 PM
Dear Govind
I am now a moderator of this group. I am responsible for seeing that rules are adhered to and enforced. When people disregard our rules, I use language appropriate to their offence. The only reason I was not firmer with Ms. Pratiha was because she is a lady.
Incidentally, you are also hereby cautioned that self-publicity is against this group's regulations. Kindly modify your signature while posting to this list.
Warmly
Sarbajit
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Govind... Hoping for better <hopegovind@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sarabjit,
I don't think the language you have used is appropriate
On 29 January 2011 10:02, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Pratibha
When you describe your 500 km procession as a "Long March" you insult the memory of a great leader and his brave comrades during their long retreat. It is precisely because of such bakwaas emails (which incidentally has nothing to do with RTI) from NGOs promoting their programs that our members request to leave this group (see email from saikatd).
Hence we have decided to kick you off this group for insulting the memory of a great leader and military strategist.
Sarbajit
Moderator
--
______________________________
"The world suffers a lot. Not because of the violence of bad people,
But because of the silence of good people!"
--Napoleon
Govind- 9960704146
URL: http://www.wix.com/hopegovind/homepage
Blog: http://simplygovind.blogspot.com
Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)
| Do u think "Bakwaas Email" and "kick you off" type language should be used by a gentleman. --- On Sat, 29/1/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
|
Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)
Expel this shabby modrator who call himself Sarbjit.
--
Warm Regards
Surendera M. Bhanot
- President, RTI Help & Assistance Forum Chandigarh
- Youth for Human Rights International YHRI - South Asia
- CEO, Avis Software, Chandigarh
- Convener & Life Member, Consumers Association Chandigarh
- Jt. Secretary, Amateur Judo Association of Chandigarh
- Member, SPACE - Society for Promotion and Conservation of Environment, Chandigarh
No. 3758, Sector 22-D, Chandigarh-160022
Mob: 919-888-810-811
PHONE: 91-172-3013240
FAX: 0871 266 8523
Mail Me
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Govind
I am now a moderator of this group. I am responsible for seeing that rules are adhered to and enforced. When people disregard our rules, I use language appropriate to their offence. The only reason I was not firmer with Ms. Pratiha was because she is a lady.
Incidentally, you are also hereby cautioned that self-publicity is against this group's regulations. Kindly modify your signature while posting to this list.
Warmly
SarbajitOn Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Govind... Hoping for better <hopegovind@gmail.com> wrote:Dear Sarabjit,
I don't think the language you have used is appropriateOn 29 January 2011 10:02, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Pratibha
When you describe your 500 km procession as a "Long March" you insult the memory of a great leader and his brave comrades during their long retreat. It is precisely because of such bakwaas emails (which incidentally has nothing to do with RTI) from NGOs promoting their programs that our members request to leave this group (see email from saikatd).
Hence we have decided to kick you off this group for insulting the memory of a great leader and military strategist.
Sarbajit
Moderator
--
Warm Regards
Surendera M. Bhanot
- President, RTI Help & Assistance Forum Chandigarh
- Youth for Human Rights International YHRI - South Asia
- CEO, Avis Software, Chandigarh
- Convener & Life Member, Consumers Association Chandigarh
- Jt. Secretary, Amateur Judo Association of Chandigarh
- Member, SPACE - Society for Promotion and Conservation of Environment, Chandigarh
No. 3758, Sector 22-D, Chandigarh-160022
Mob: 919-888-810-811
PHONE: 91-172-3013240
FAX: 0871 266 8523
Mail Me
Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Activists in Kolkata
| IT IS MALAY BHATTACHARYA, MOB NO. 9231413834 Bimal Khemani RTI activist ALIGARH-202001 INDIA Mob:935-972-4625 --- On Sat, 29/1/11, Ashok R. Mansata <ashokaol@hotmail.com> wrote:
|
Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)
Dear Govind
I am now a moderator of this group. I am responsible for seeing that rules are adhered to and enforced. When people disregard our rules, I use language appropriate to their offence. The only reason I was not firmer with Ms. Pratiha was because she is a lady.
Incidentally, you are also hereby cautioned that self-publicity is against this group's regulations. Kindly modify your signature while posting to this list.
Warmly
Sarbajit
I am now a moderator of this group. I am responsible for seeing that rules are adhered to and enforced. When people disregard our rules, I use language appropriate to their offence. The only reason I was not firmer with Ms. Pratiha was because she is a lady.
Incidentally, you are also hereby cautioned that self-publicity is against this group's regulations. Kindly modify your signature while posting to this list.
Warmly
Sarbajit
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Govind... Hoping for better <hopegovind@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sarabjit,
I don't think the language you have used is appropriateOn 29 January 2011 10:02, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Pratibha
When you describe your 500 km procession as a "Long March" you insult the memory of a great leader and his brave comrades during their long retreat. It is precisely because of such bakwaas emails (which incidentally has nothing to do with RTI) from NGOs promoting their programs that our members request to leave this group (see email from saikatd).
Hence we have decided to kick you off this group for insulting the memory of a great leader and military strategist.
Sarbajit
Moderator
Friday, January 28, 2011
[HumJanenge] RTI Activists in Kolkata
Hi all,Can someone please suggest the name of any RTI expert in Kolkata with whom I can discuss some RTI related issues.
Thanks,
Ashok
Thanks,
Ashok
Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)
Dear Sarabjit,
I don't think the language you have used is appropriate
--
______________________________
"The world suffers a lot. Not because of the violence of bad people,
But because of the silence of good people!"
--Napoleon
Govind- 9960704146
URL: http://www.wix.com/hopegovind/homepage
Blog: http://simplygovind.blogspot.com
I don't think the language you have used is appropriate
On 29 January 2011 10:02, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Pratibha
When you describe your 500 km procession as a "Long March" you insult the memory of a great leader and his brave comrades during their long retreat. It is precisely because of such bakwaas emails (which incidentally has nothing to do with RTI) from NGOs promoting their programs that our members request to leave this group (see email from saikatd).
Hence we have decided to kick you off this group for insulting the memory of a great leader and military strategist.
Sarbajit
ModeratorOn Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Pratibha Shinde <loksamanway@gmail.com> wrote:
Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai (500km) for the Right to Jal, Jungle, Jamin & Natural Resources
Dear Friend,
Zindabad !!
Tribal on North Maharastra has decided to make their protest at Mumbay in the front of assembly seeking relief and the fast implementation of Forest rights act, 2006 under the banner of Lok Sangharsh Morcha. About 5 thousand tribal men and women along with their children will be marching from Nandurbar to Mumbai by walk (Padyatra) with the distance of 500km from 1st March,2011. Padyatra will reach Mumbai on 15th of March,20011. Hundreds of public meetings will be planned on the way during the Yatra at several places to get endorsement of public/ civil society. Volunteers and a team of Doctors are also accompanied with the Yatra. Different mass organizations, political leaders, intellectuals and social activists will join them during the Yatra.
We are highly obliged if you make your valuable support to the struggle by joining us, by sending volunteers/ cultural teams, through publication materials, vehicles or in any other form you can consider better.
Pl. see the attachment.
Thanks,
Regards,
Pratibha Shinde
Lok Sangharsh Morcha
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Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)
Dear Pratibha
When you describe your 500 km procession as a "Long March" you insult the memory of a great leader and his brave comrades during their long retreat. It is precisely because of such bakwaas emails (which incidentally has nothing to do with RTI) from NGOs promoting their programs that our members request to leave this group (see email from saikatd).
Hence we have decided to kick you off this group for insulting the memory of a great leader and military strategist.
Sarbajit
Moderator
When you describe your 500 km procession as a "Long March" you insult the memory of a great leader and his brave comrades during their long retreat. It is precisely because of such bakwaas emails (which incidentally has nothing to do with RTI) from NGOs promoting their programs that our members request to leave this group (see email from saikatd).
Hence we have decided to kick you off this group for insulting the memory of a great leader and military strategist.
Sarbajit
Moderator
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Pratibha Shinde <loksamanway@gmail.com> wrote:
Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai (500km) for the Right to Jal, Jungle, Jamin & Natural Resources
Dear Friend,
Zindabad !!
Tribal on North Maharastra has decided to make their protest at Mumbay in the front of assembly seeking relief and the fast implementation of Forest rights act, 2006 under the banner of Lok Sangharsh Morcha. About 5 thousand tribal men and women along with their children will be marching from Nandurbar to Mumbai by walk (Padyatra) with the distance of 500km from 1st March,2011. Padyatra will reach Mumbai on 15th of March,20011. Hundreds of public meetings will be planned on the way during the Yatra at several places to get endorsement of public/ civil society. Volunteers and a team of Doctors are also accompanied with the Yatra. Different mass organizations, political leaders, intellectuals and social activists will join them during the Yatra.
We are highly obliged if you make your valuable support to the struggle by joining us, by sending volunteers/ cultural teams, through publication materials, vehicles or in any other form you can consider better.
Pl. see the attachment.
Thanks,
Regards,
Pratibha Shinde
Lok Sangharsh Morcha
Re: [HumJanenge]Moderators! Kindly take me off this e-group.
Does anyone have a clue about how I can get myself off this e-group?
Moderators! Kindly take me off this e-group.
Tribal on North Maharastra has decided to make their protest at Mumbay in the front of assembly seeking relief and the fast implementation of Forest rights act, 2006 under the banner of Lok Sangharsh Morcha. About 5 thousand tribal men and women along with their children will be marching from Nandurbar to Mumbai by walk (Padyatra) with the distance of 500km from 1st March,2011. Padyatra will reach Mumbai on 15th of March,20011. Hundreds of public meetings will be planned on the way during the Yatra at several places to get endorsement of public/ civil society. Volunteers and a team of Doctors are also accompanied with the Yatra. Different mass organizations, political leaders, intellectuals and social activists will join them during the Yatra.
We are highly obliged if you make your valuable support to the struggle by joining us, by sending volunteers/ cultural teams, through publication materials, vehicles or in any other form you can consider better.
Pl. see the attachment.
Thanks,
Regards,
Pratibha Shinde
Lok Sangharsh Morcha
Moderators! Kindly take me off this e-group.
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Subject: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)
Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai (500km) for the Right to Jal, Jungle, Jamin & Natural Resources
Dear Friend,
Zindabad !!
Zindabad !!
Tribal on North Maharastra has decided to make their protest at Mumbay in the front of assembly seeking relief and the fast implementation of Forest rights act, 2006 under the banner of Lok Sangharsh Morcha. About 5 thousand tribal men and women along with their children will be marching from Nandurbar to Mumbai by walk (Padyatra) with the distance of 500km from 1st March,2011. Padyatra will reach Mumbai on 15th of March,20011. Hundreds of public meetings will be planned on the way during the Yatra at several places to get endorsement of public/ civil society. Volunteers and a team of Doctors are also accompanied with the Yatra. Different mass organizations, political leaders, intellectuals and social activists will join them during the Yatra.
We are highly obliged if you make your valuable support to the struggle by joining us, by sending volunteers/ cultural teams, through publication materials, vehicles or in any other form you can consider better.
Pl. see the attachment.
Thanks,
Regards,
Pratibha Shinde
Lok Sangharsh Morcha
[HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)
Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai (500km) for the Right to Jal, Jungle, Jamin & Natural Resources
Dear Friend,
Zindabad !!
Zindabad !!
Tribal on North Maharastra has decided to make their protest at Mumbay in the front of assembly seeking relief and the fast implementation of Forest rights act, 2006 under the banner of Lok Sangharsh Morcha. About 5 thousand tribal men and women along with their children will be marching from Nandurbar to Mumbai by walk (Padyatra) with the distance of 500km from 1st March,2011. Padyatra will reach Mumbai on 15th of March,20011. Hundreds of public meetings will be planned on the way during the Yatra at several places to get endorsement of public/ civil society. Volunteers and a team of Doctors are also accompanied with the Yatra. Different mass organizations, political leaders, intellectuals and social activists will join them during the Yatra.
We are highly obliged if you make your valuable support to the struggle by joining us, by sending volunteers/ cultural teams, through publication materials, vehicles or in any other form you can consider better.
Pl. see the attachment.
Thanks,
Regards,
Pratibha Shinde
Lok Sangharsh Morcha
Re: [HumJanenge] 111 days of HumJanenge
Rest all is good. But I bet Sarabjit Roy will be a blot to this unity movement.
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On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:31 PM, RTI UNITY <rti.unity@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear members
Today, 29.Jan.2011 the HumJanenge group celebrates auspicious 111 days
on the Google platform.
During this brief period "HJ" has become India's most outspoken and
widely read RTI group with a broad and eclectic membership.
Thanks and blessings go out to everyone involved in the RTI Unity project
PMK1504
Veeresh
Sarbajit
Ashish
Sharmaji
Raminder
"Col X"
and so many others
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Warm Regards
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- President, RTI Help & Assistance Forum Chandigarh
- Youth for Human Rights International YHRI - South Asia
- CEO, Avis Software, Chandigarh
- Convener & Life Member, Consumers Association Chandigarh
- Jt. Secretary, Amateur Judo Association of Chandigarh
- Member, SPACE - Society for Promotion and Conservation of Environment, Chandigarh
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Mob: 919-888-810-811
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[rti4empowerment] Request for Information
Dear RTI Activists,
Cooperative Group Housing Societies in Delhi and other States have been allotted land for building houses at SUBSIDISED RATES. Office of the and position as Registrar, a State Government Officer has been created to monitor the activities of these societies. With this limited background, my question being put to RTI Activists is:
1. Are these cooperative housing societies are not supposed under to seek permission from the Registrar of Cooperative Socieites for original allotment of flats through presence of his official after sending all relevant documents or its permission for transfer of flat to blood relations or third paerty for commercial gains by the Presidents of these Societies?
2. In one R TI REPLY, RCS, Govt. of NCT of Delhi has said that "information sought by you pertains to society record. The Society is not a public authority, hence your application cannot be forwarded to society to provide you the information".
I shall be grateful to Activists of their opinion whether RCS is simply show piece or has he has some responsibility in the affairs of these3 socieities?
Hari Goyal
28.01.2011
011- 25082239 .
_______________________________________________________ Dr. Hari D. Goyal Director APSERI (Asia Pacific Socio-Economic Research Institute) P.O. Box 10518, JNU Post Office, New Delhi-110067 Phone: 91(11)617 1506, 610 8512 Email : haridgoyal@hotmail.com URL : http://www.geocities.com/apseri
Cooperative Group Housing Societies in Delhi and other States have been allotted land for building houses at SUBSIDISED RATES. Office of the and position as Registrar, a State Government Officer has been created to monitor the activities of these societies. With this limited background, my question being put to RTI Activists is:
1. Are these cooperative housing societies are not supposed under to seek permission from the Registrar of Cooperative Socieites for original allotment of flats through presence of his official after sending all relevant documents or its permission for transfer of flat to blood relations or third paerty for commercial gains by the Presidents of these Societies?
2. In one R TI REPLY, RCS, Govt. of NCT of Delhi has said that "information sought by you pertains to society record. The Society is not a public authority, hence your application cannot be forwarded to society to provide you the information".
I shall be grateful to Activists of their opinion whether RCS is simply show piece or has he has some responsibility in the affairs of these3 socieities?
Hari Goyal
28.01.2011
011- 25082239 .
_______________________________________________________ Dr. Hari D. Goyal Director APSERI (Asia Pacific Socio-Economic Research Institute) P.O. Box 10518, JNU Post Office, New Delhi-110067 Phone: 91(11)617 1506, 610 8512 Email : haridgoyal@hotmail.com URL : http://www.geocities.com/apseri
[HumJanenge] 111 days of HumJanenge
Dear members
Today, 29.Jan.2011 the HumJanenge group celebrates auspicious 111 days
on the Google platform.
During this brief period "HJ" has become India's most outspoken and
widely read RTI group with a broad and eclectic membership.
Thanks and blessings go out to everyone involved in the RTI Unity project
PMK1504
Veeresh
Sarbajit
Ashish
Sharmaji
Raminder
"Col X"
and so many others
Re: [HumJanenge] RTI activist shot in UP
Friends, It is absolutely sad that such events are taking place and the sufferer will render himself helpless at such situation. The situation is grave enough to be taken easily. The beswt solution to tackle such situations would be "not to handle the activism ALONE". You have to build a team work, go in teams, every application for RTI infomation should be applied atleast a half dozen different members. The object should be very clear that a single person should not become a target and an easy one. Wisdom should take upper hand. When authorities are contacted go to the highest authority in the department. Have friends together whenever u go out on jobs. This is only precaution. A loss of one Activist is a gain of 10 perpetrators. Caution is the word, regards dwarakanathdm
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Agniwesh Thakur <agniwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
Dr Amarnath Pandey from Sonebhadra UP is shot for exposing the corruption by BDO.
When this anarchy is going to be end. How many more voices will be silenced..
Urging all people to stand united against the atrocities towards Whistle Blowers. Let's not fall prey to bullets.
Regards
Agni
Hyderabad
Excuse Typos.Sent my BlackBerry®
Re: [HumJanenge] RTI activist shot in UP
At last a meaningful mail! Thank much, Mr. Anil Dubey. All the very
best, Mr Raza. Lets put our shoulders to turn the wheel for good
goverance. Warm regards,
best, Mr Raza. Lets put our shoulders to turn the wheel for good
goverance. Warm regards,
On 1/28/11, Anil Dubey <akdubey8@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Danish
> you cam talk to mr. Jaishankar Panday,rti activist in chandouli neighbouring
> district of SONEBHADRA.his number is 09415307105.
>
>
> On 27 January 2011 18:39, Danish Raza <danish@governancenow.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Agni,
>>
>> I am a journalist based in Delhi...i cover RTI...I was wondering if you
>> have any contact details of someone in Sonebhadra who can give me details
>> of
>> this case....i wish to report about this.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>> Danish Raza
>> Principal Correspondent- governance now
>>
>> http://governancenow.com/rti
>> visit me at www.daanishraza.wordpress.com
>>
>> email- danish@governancenow.com, danishraza2007@gmail.com
>> Mobile: 09899747422, Ph: 0120- 3920552
>>
>> 24A, Ground Floor, Mindmill Corporate Tower, Filmcity, Sec 16-A, Noida-
>> 201301
>>
>>
>> <http://governancenow.com/rti>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Anil Dubey Anchor Cum Correspondent DD News, New Delhi +919891440214
>
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Re: [rti4empowerment] DEATH, THE AWARD OF HONESTY FOR HONEST CITIZENS AND WHISTLE BLOWERS.
RECENT KILLINGS OF WHISTLE BLOWERS AND RTI ACTVISTS BROUGHT A CONFUSION AMONG THE ACTIVISTS FIGHTING AGAINST COURRUPTION , CENTAL GOVT. IS NOT GIVING ANY IMPORTANCE TO PROTECT THE LIFE OF A PERSON WHO IS TRYING TO PROTECT THE NATION FROM COURRUPTION , WHAT IS THE FATE OF HONEST CITIZEN WHO IS FIGHTING AGINST
CORRUPITON , LAND MAFIA , OIL MAFIA , REAL ESTATE MAFIA , SAND MAFIA , MINING MAFIA ,WHO WILL PROTECT THE LIFE OF THE HONEST ACTIVIST , THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT AT ALL TAKING ANY STEPS TO CURB THE RECENT HAPPENINGS , I WILL PRAY WITH THE GOD TO GIVE PROTECT THE LIFE OF AN HONEST POOR CITIZEN WHO IS FIGHTING AGAINST CORRUPTION
SAVE INDIA , SAVE INDIA FROM CLUTCHES OF CORRUPTION
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:55 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
DEATH, THE AWARD OF HONESTY FOR HONEST CITIZENS AND WHISTLE BLOWERS.
M K Gupta
Now mafia can go to any extent to have its way and even murder the honest officers and whistle blowers. Oil mafia has burnt alive an honest officer Yashwant Sonawane, ADM. Govt. has declared Rs 25 lakhs to the berevered family of the Mr. Sonawane. Seven persons have been arrested for the murder of ADM.
In an other incident, an RTI activist Mr Amarnath Pandey, 55, an RTI activist and homocopathy dotor was shot at. In this case,, an FIR has been registered against three persons including a Block Development Offier. Pandey has tried to expose corruption in development block Ghorawal due to which govt issued a recovery order of Rs. 30 lakh from the concerned officers for misappropriation of funds. Last week also, Pandey was hit by a jeep when he was returning home on his scooter.
Meanwhile, demanding immediate arrest of attackers, Congress activists staged a sit-in Jubli crossing creating traffic jam in the Sonebhadra area.
Superintendent of Police, Deepak Kumar said that police have launched a manhunt to nab attackers.(Inputs from Timesnow.com)
RE: [rti4empowerment] CONFINING TO ONE SUBJECT AND LIMITING WORDS IN RTI NOT DESIRABLE
You can have a no of RTI for a no of subjects. It will lead to the useful output of the question asked by you. Whereas in a multipl subjects, PIO may not answer the real question asked by you thus, you will bedrowned in the sea .
Dr N C Jain
28-1-10
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:00:43 +0530
From: mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in
Subject: [rti4empowerment] CONFINING TO ONE SUBJECT AND LIMITING WORDS IN RTI NOT DESIRABLE
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Dr N C Jain
28-1-10
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:00:43 +0530
From: mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in
Subject: [rti4empowerment] CONFINING TO ONE SUBJECT AND LIMITING WORDS IN RTI NOT DESIRABLE
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
| CONFINING TO ONE SUBJECT AND LIMITING WORDS IN RTI NOT DESIRABLE M. K. Gupta
The Department of Pension and Training (DoPT) is putting hard labour to limit RTI application to 250 words and allowing queries only on one subject at a time. This is against the Act passed by the Parliament, which is the Supreme law making body. If these proposals are implemented, these should be challenged in the Court of Law.
Moreover, many persons are capable to ask for more information on one subject even in 250 words than the information they may ask in unlimited words. Moreover, the PIO or the Public authority will decide and define that the RTI is not on more than one subject and this will be open to widespread misuse. A citizen does not have the means that something pertaining to an office is on the one subject or not. This provisions are be misused by opening many files on one subject by sub-dividing the subject or by assigning a subject to many officers and innovative ways can be invented by the Departments to do so. In the Delhi Municipal Corporation in some areas, the cleanliness of roads is the responsibility of one Department of MCD but the cleaning the sewer is of another Department and the removal of Malwa (construction waste) comes under the purview of third Department. Even the cleanliness of areas in front shops immediately after the shops in Dwarka, Delhi comes under the Delhi Development Authority. Though, the subject is one i.e. "Cleanliness" but an RTI application on sanitation may and will be rejected on this score. This is only an example and such instances can be found in thousands. On the contrary, this will burden the Public Authority more as the applicants will be compelled to file over one application if they have more than one query.
The RTI has brought some qualitative changes and transprancy in the working of the government's departments to an extent but such proposals will negate this. As far as argument of long RTI application is concerned, there is already a provision in the RTI Act that the information solicited should not disprosposnately divert the resources of the Public Authority. Recently, the Delhi High Court has also put a fine of Rs.75,000/- on Mr. Nijhawan of Paardarsita for unreasonable queries and after that, no such case has come to the fore.
Govt. should once more reconsider before rejecting the recommendations of the National Advisory Council on this. |
Re: [rti4empowerment] Re: RTI activist shot in UP
Dear Dubeyji,
It is very good that you have posted. If knowledgeable persons like you do
not post then who will post and challenge what others write?
You are 110% correct that we are nobody to sit in judgment. Those who
do sit in judgment often come across cases like these and place the details
in public domain for lesser mortals like us to read.
http://rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/Decision_11092007_15.pdf
http://rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/Decision_16082007_03.pdf
(This case is about an Income Tax officer (requester) against whom
residents have complained he is a blackmailer)
http://rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_LS_A_2010_000282_M_40397.pdf
NB: These decisions are only for" blackmailers" located using the CIC's
section 4(1)(a) compliance. You may use the same facility for
"extortionists", "vexatious", "frivolous" etc.
For "eco-system", I suggest that wikipedia is a good place to begin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecosystem
warmly
Sarbajit
It is very good that you have posted. If knowledgeable persons like you do
not post then who will post and challenge what others write?
You are 110% correct that we are nobody to sit in judgment. Those who
do sit in judgment often come across cases like these and place the details
in public domain for lesser mortals like us to read.
http://rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/Decision_11092007_15.pdf
http://rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/Decision_16082007_03.pdf
(This case is about an Income Tax officer (requester) against whom
residents have complained he is a blackmailer)
http://rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_LS_A_2010_000282_M_40397.pdf
NB: These decisions are only for" blackmailers" located using the CIC's
section 4(1)(a) compliance. You may use the same facility for
"extortionists", "vexatious", "frivolous" etc.
For "eco-system", I suggest that wikipedia is a good place to begin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecosystem
warmly
Sarbajit
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Anil Dubey <akdubey8@gmail.com> wrote:
I rarely write to these groups.but something is happening that is bothering me.can anyone clarify these thingswho can be (extortioned) by use of RTI ?who can be (blackmailed?) by use of RTI?what is this ( vexatious?) manner ?what is a (frivolous?) application?
what is RTI eco system( a new term for me)?
At last who are we to pass judgements?On 28 January 2011 12:33, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends
Where is the question of my "real" face. I have ALWAYS maintained as follows:
1) That I am a citizen entitled to use RTI
2) That I am not an "activist"
3) That many "activists" are extortionists / blackmailer / professionals who use
RTI in a vexatious manner which is harmful to long term interest of citizens who use RTI.
4) That the sooner such activists are eliminated from the RTI eco-system (by being
shot or otherwise) the better for all genuine stakeholders especially citizens..
To remove any doubts
I confirm that I made the statement attributed to me, and I stand by it.
Sarbajit
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:24 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Regards
Anil Dubey Anchor Cum Correspondent DD News, New Delhi +919891440214
Thursday, January 27, 2011
Re: [rti4empowerment] Re: RTI activist shot in UP
I rarely write to these groups.but something is happening that is bothering me.can anyone clarify these things
who can be (extortioned) by use of RTI ?
who can be (blackmailed?) by use of RTI?
what is this ( vexatious?) manner ?
what is a (frivolous?) application?
what is RTI eco system( a new term for me)?
what is RTI eco system( a new term for me)?
At last who are we to pass judgements?
On 28 January 2011 12:33, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends
Where is the question of my "real" face. I have ALWAYS maintained as follows:
1) That I am a citizen entitled to use RTI
2) That I am not an "activist"
3) That many "activists" are extortionists / blackmailer / professionals who use
RTI in a vexatious manner which is harmful to long term interest of citizens who use RTI.
4) That the sooner such activists are eliminated from the RTI eco-system (by being
shot or otherwise) the better for all genuine stakeholders especially citizens..
To remove any doubts
I confirm that I made the statement attributed to me, and I stand by it.
Sarbajit
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:24 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
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[HumJanenge] Re: RTI activist shot in UP
Dear Friends
Where is the question of my "real" face. I have ALWAYS maintained as follows:
1) That I am a citizen entitled to use RTI
2) That I am not an "activist"
3) That many "activists" are extortionists / blackmailer / professionals who use
RTI in a vexatious manner which is harmful to long term interest of citizens who use RTI.
4) That the sooner such activists are eliminated from the RTI eco-system (by being
shot or otherwise) the better for all genuine stakeholders especially citizens..
To remove any doubts
I confirm that I made the statement attributed to me, and I stand by it.
Sarbajit
Where is the question of my "real" face. I have ALWAYS maintained as follows:
1) That I am a citizen entitled to use RTI
2) That I am not an "activist"
3) That many "activists" are extortionists / blackmailer / professionals who use
RTI in a vexatious manner which is harmful to long term interest of citizens who use RTI.
4) That the sooner such activists are eliminated from the RTI eco-system (by being
shot or otherwise) the better for all genuine stakeholders especially citizens..
To remove any doubts
I confirm that I made the statement attributed to me, and I stand by it.
Sarbajit
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:24 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
[rti4empowerment] Re: RTI activist shot in UP
Dear Friends
Where is the question of my "real" face. I have ALWAYS maintained as follows:
1) That I am a citizen entitled to use RTI
2) That I am not an "activist"
3) That many "activists" are extortionists / blackmailer / professionals who use
RTI in a vexatious manner which is harmful to long term interest of citizens who use RTI.
4) That the sooner such activists are eliminated from the RTI eco-system (by being
shot or otherwise) the better for all genuine stakeholders especially citizens..
To remove any doubts
I confirm that I made the statement attributed to me, and I stand by it.
Sarbajit
Where is the question of my "real" face. I have ALWAYS maintained as follows:
1) That I am a citizen entitled to use RTI
2) That I am not an "activist"
3) That many "activists" are extortionists / blackmailer / professionals who use
RTI in a vexatious manner which is harmful to long term interest of citizens who use RTI.
4) That the sooner such activists are eliminated from the RTI eco-system (by being
shot or otherwise) the better for all genuine stakeholders especially citizens..
To remove any doubts
I confirm that I made the statement attributed to me, and I stand by it.
Sarbajit
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:24 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
[HumJanenge] RTI activist shot in UP
For knowing the real face of Shri Sarabjit Roy, please read this statement made by him - "THE MORE RTI ACTIVISTS ARE SHOT THE BETTER FOR RTI". --- On Fri, 28/1/11, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
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[rti4empowerment] [HumJanenge] RTI activist shot in UP
For knowing the real face of Shri Sarabjit Roy, please read this statement made by him - "THE MORE RTI ACTIVISTS ARE SHOT THE BETTER FOR RTI". --- On Fri, 28/1/11, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
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