doing same thing expecting diffrent result is foolish that is what AK is doing. the system does not allow honest to survive.so u have to fight for changing the system nothing less than this will give Zero Results. once civil society realised this a diffrent nationwide movement will take place.no piecemeal change but want complete reform.AK and his team is totally out of this as they are shown interest to adjust within the system.for them truth and theary of justice is beyond their understanding.
On Jul 20, 2013 10:56 PM, "Gaur J K" <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
20/7/13
Dear Sirs,
It is clear that the diffrences between AAP and IAC are irreconcialable after S. Roy has articulated them a number of times mainly being the finanacial irregularities. Yet I believe certain decorum should be maintained in public uttrances.
Now that the 3 who were at one time integral part of the broad anti-corruption movement have parted ways, let each concentrate their energies on their core stength.
In due course of time people will judge their achievements.
On a broader scale, the civil society orgasnisation/forums are a divided house. There are reported to be more than 29000 NGOs working in difffrent fields on local,state level and national level. Majority of them are funded from indegenous funds but many are receiving foreign funds ever since India became in dependent The need of the hour is cooperation and collaboration among NGOs may be some kind of federation at State, National level. Till then the Govt. with the help from corporate world will keep the civil soiety movements divided and put them down.
Regds
JKGaur
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 21:39:52 +0530
From: fastjustice@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Arvind Kejriwal, who are you fooling ?
Use of such unparliamentary words doesent augur well in yor mouth
I too have honest differences with Arvind still I respect him for his guts
and for his capacity to build an organisatiopn in a very short time
Use your energy in buildING sky
Bhagvanji Raiyani
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:02 AM, SURESHAN P <sureshandelhi@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all
No body have any discretionary power to allow any violators to go
Scot free.. This is the misapprehension of many people in this
country that if u are powerful u need not bother about various
stipulations.. whether it is common man or P.M. law should be followed
scrupulously. The incident narrated in this subject shows the common
thinking prevailing within the top level leaders of AAP. they are not
even understood the quality of leadership.. Leaders should be moral
guiding factor for its followers. This country is ruined because of
low quality of leadership.. "A country will be prosperous if the King
stays in Huts and common man in palaces" This is about highest
standards of quality,,, he should be free from slightest degree of
personal ego, compassionate, high thinking and low living,, He always
keep away from all kind of flattering,,, This kind of high level
quality is not visible in any of AAP leaders.. They have failed to
follow a single lesson from ANNA Hazare
regards
On 7/13/13, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Dear SR*
>
> I have noted your sentiments (and also those of another member Suneel
> Prasad who opines that policemen have discretionary power to let off
> offenders).
>
> Those who expect / claim to represent the people must display the highest
> standards of probity in their personal life.
>
> I bring to your notice some observations of the Supreme Court:-
>
> "*In a country governed by the rule of law, nobody is above the law,
> including judicial officers.*"
>
> The Supreme Court was of the view that a judge's official and personal
> conduct must be in tune with the* "highest standard of propriety and
> probity. If she has deliberately chosen to depart from these high and
> exacting standards, she is appropriately liable for disciplinary action*"
>
> Arvind is the one who called Parliament a den of thieves. AAP's top Mumbai
> man Mayank Gandhi is now, by his own public statement, exposed as no better
> than them.
>
> Accordingly, I have given Arvind a public challenge to either begin the
> process of expelling Mayank Gandhi immediately, or take action through
> AAP's "*Internal Lokpal*" against him on my formal complaint, a copy of
> which was separately emailed to Arvind..
>
> It is not a question of Re.1 or Rs.100 or Rs.100crores. It is the *MORAL
> PRINCIPLE*
>
> If AAP's so-called eminent citizens LokPal can't even investigate a Rs.100
> complaint against its own members how can a Jan Lokpal investigate a
> complaint of Rs.1,000 crores against powerful outsiders. *As an engineer, I
> would say the Lokpal concept has flopped on the drawing board inside the
> lab
> *.
>
> *PS:* Incidentally the observations of the SC were in 2011 in a matter
> where a Mumbai lady magistrate was dismissed from the judicial service for
> traveling without a Rs.17 ticket in a Mumbai local train.
>
> Insofar as AAP's working against corruption is concerned, I have clearly
> stated that not even 1 matter agitated by them has resulted in any
> conviction. In fact they are hired guns (aka NGO for hire) who intervene in
> PILs of other people and attempt to stall / derail them. COALGATE and CAG
> appointment being prime examples of their tactics.
>
> Also, knowing AAP's dirty tricks dept, I'm sure they'll "procure" a
> back-dated receipt from the cops to show that Mayank Gandhi paid the
> challan.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 8:21 AM, <ssr.singh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Sir,
>>
>> Good Morning.
>>
>> As a convenor of IAC, we place you very high and are saddened when you
>> join non issues.
>>
>> I am not from AAP, yet find that they are doing something. Just writing
>> mails and shooting letters are hardly of any significance.
>>
>> Hope you will honour our expectations.
>>
>> Anyone who is fighting corrupt system is far superior to those who are
>> just bent upon criticising.
>>
>> Regards and best wishes.
>>
>> SR
>> Regards,
>>
>> SR
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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