Re: [IAC#RG] A PANCHANAMA OF BJP’s FOUR YEARS IN OFFICE

It is necessary that abusive word such as rascal should not be used in communication. It is not difficult for someone else to use the language against the writer. Should we not remain civilised in  mutual communication ?

N.S.Venkataraman

Nandini Voice For The Deprived

On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 9:24 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

@Ravindran

Lets see if I understand you correctly. You say - Modi can be a lying
rascal. BJP are lying rascals, (of course RSS were the original lying
rascals - who played no part in securing India's "independence"), so
they can all lie to lure voters. Furthermore, while it was definitely
wrong for Indira Gandhi to bend/twist/subvert the rules during
Emergency, but its perfectly OK for Modi/BJP to do so now (in the
national interest) for they are all honorable men (and not a woman in
sight).

Everybody who is clued in sees that this present BJP govt is even more
corrupt, divisive unresponsive and opaque than Congress was, and their
"achievements" are only in social media and paid newspapers advts.
BTW, AAP is afflicted by the same problem and there is full blown
megalomania in both these parties.

Sarbajit

On 2/19/16, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Vidyut
>
> I have not heard an even more stupid argument before! BJP is not the first
> to use false election promises to lure voters. In fact even that a legacy
> of the scamgress! And Modi or BJP cannot be expected to wave any magic wand
> to undo these treacherous acts in a jiffy! There is something known as
> playing with existing rules till one can get to change them as per one's
> choice or public needs!
>
> ravi
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 1:43 AM, Vidyut <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> @ Ravindran PM
>>
>> I hope you realize you're dumping Vajpayee into the Congress muck.
>>
>> Jokes apart, the point is to measure achievements against claims. No one
>> had forced BJP to make promises it cannot deliver. If it is not possible
>> to
>> "clean 60 years of muck" (as though the country achieved nothing till
>> Modi), then BJP could have promised what it could do - which is the idea
>> of
>> election promises, no? BJP hadn't promised to "clean 60 years of muck" -
>> nor does it seem to even be interested in starting, it had promised
>> specific actions, which it did not deliver, as Aires Rodrigues pointed
>> out.
>> I fail to see the utility of generalizing very specific evaluations into
>> some mumbo jumbo that ends up somehow blaming Congress. If BJP cannot
>> govern a place ruled by Congress before, it might as well quit politics.
>>
>> Vidyut

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RE: [IAC#RG] TREAT STUDENT POLITICIAN AS POLITICIAN AND NOT AS STUDENT

Do see the following links. Some of the earliest comments in defence of JNU students appeared in ET and on the site

Regards

TK Arun

 

http://blogs.economictimes.indiatimes.com/cursor/how-sedition-charge-in-jnu-over-afzal-guru-harms-democracy/

http://blogs.economictimes.indiatimes.com/et-editorials/jnu-row-sedition-charge-against-student-leader-amounts-to-contempt-of-supreme-court/

http://blogs.economictimes.indiatimes.com/et-commentary/why-the-government-needs-to-engage-with-jnu-students-not-crack-down-on-them/

http://blogs.economictimes.indiatimes.com/Swaminomics/jnu-stir-why-anti-nationalism-is-an-empty-abuse-that-has-no-place-in-a-free-society/

 

http://blogs.economictimes.indiatimes.com/et-editorials/jnu-row-the-politics-behind-hooligan-lawyers/

http://blogs.economictimes.indiatimes.com/et-commentary/killing-our-campuses/

 

 

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Please let me know why your site is saying nothing in defence of the students and staff who were beaten up within the court compound and against the so-called lawyers who instigated the crimes or the police who looked on and did nothing?

To the manager's of this site: why has no one filed a writ against the police's inaction and their complicity with the perpetrators of mob violence?

Joya Roy

On 19 Feb 2016 23:31, "Dharmesh Dutta" <duttadharmesh@gmail.com> wrote:

There exists a great deal of cacophony that's secondary to our lives, in that most of us who share our thoughts are neither the culprits nor the victims, lest we should have had radical views.

The question therefore is, 'How often our collective thoughts have been well structured that deserved eyes and ears of the nation so diverse?'

On the captioned topic, the choice is between those who want to become politicians to camouflage their 'fear' and those who steadfastly pursue it as a career. Whilst the former needs no great sacrifice, the latter entails persecution. Its the balance between the two that decides the success or failure of democracy.

We need all sorts of professionals to cater to over 1.2 billion population. Then why not a professional 'Student Politician'?

Our institutions have indeed produced some of the brilliant minds and should be as such held in high esteem.

At 17 we complete schooling and enter into a professional stream. Give the 'Student Politician' a decade (5 years of knowledge + 5 years of wisdom) to get into the mainstream politics, else he or she shall no longer be construed as a 'Student Politician' thereby paving way for other aspirants.

The very fact that we have "Elections" and "Unions" goes to prove that a teacher need not always teach and a student need not always study!

Regards
Dharmesh

On Feb 17, 2016 10:54 PM, "Dr Ajay Narain" <drajaynarain@hotmail.com> wrote:

I whole heartedly endorse your views.The primary duty of students is to pay attention on their studies and not indulge in politics due to misguided politicians. The ugly situation which happened in JNU and subsequent interference by politicians of all hue particularly defense of such unpatriotic gundaas of the university by Congress and Left parties was most unworthy and shameful.Instead of condemning the event they talked about freedom of speech,quoting the Constitution,without understanding the limits of it.Calling the action of the govt a fascist act is utter nonsense.In fact they should have cooperated in identifying the culprits as most belong to their cadre. 

        Further, most of the TV Channels,have also become the mouthpieces of the Left parties as many of the anchors come from the same background.There is a evident bias in their not only reporting but also they deliberately bring panelist who support anti nationalists,and try to defame the the rightful action by the police.

Dr A. Narain. 

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On Feb 14, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:

    

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                                                                                          TREAT STUDENT POLITICIAN AS POLITICIAN AND NOT AS STUDENT

 

 

 

When I was a student in Annamalai University in Tamil Nadu, I attended a meeting addressed by Mr. V.V.Giri, former Vice President and President of India.

During the question and answer session, I asked Mr.V.V.Giri as to whether the students can get themselves involved in political activities. Mr. V.V. Giri replied without hesitation that students should do the following three things, namely study, study and study.

 

Mr. Giri  who was an active trade union leader before becoming the Vice President of India pointed out that students should know politics but should not involve themselves in politics, as it would divert the attention from the primary task of studying and learning. Students getting involved in politics is neither in their interest nor in the interest of the nation.

 

The recent incidents in J N U, Delhi , where students planned cultural programme to protest against the hanging of Afzal Guru, the agitation by students in Hyderabad University when a student committed suicide and the support readily given to such agitations by politicians , only highlight the fact that politics have made deep inroads in the academic institutions and universities.

 

In recent times in Tamil Nadu,  several students have indulged in rowdy like behavior and frequently indulged in condemnable acts such as fighting between themselves with knives, hijacking the transport buses and even murdering teachers. Many of such students have affiliations to one political party or the other and if the police would initiate action against them, politicians interfere in their support.

 

It is seen that more than 95% of the students are interested only in academic pursuits. Only  minority  of students who have criminal mind set or who want to launch themselves as politicians in future, indulge in such rowdy like behavior.  Unfortunately, the print and visual media give huge publicity to such deplorable activities of small group of students, which virtually amount to encouraging  them,  as these politicians in the making get all the publicity that they want.

 

In this scenario, it is appropriate that the Government of India has taken action against the agitating JNU students  and strongly deplored their behavior. As expected, several politicians in the opposition parties and some so called activists criticize the  action of the government of India with  ready made statements such as curtailing the freedom and reminiscence of the emergency days etc. As usual, the print and visual media give more publicity and space  to the activities of the student and utterances of the critical politicians, than the views of the government.

 

It is high time that we treat the student  politician as politician and not as student and refrain from giving the benefit of treating  with kid gloves. 

 

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Re: [IAC#RG] NOW GOA CIC CLAIMS HE IS EQUIVALENT IN RANK WITH A SUPREME COURT JUDGE

When you say 'use of red beacon by CIC is illegal are you referring to some act of  Parliament or directions of Supreme Court.

I think CIC is right in equating with Election Commission.

Do you think going to the S.C. on this issue is desirable.

What is the practice being followed in other States?

Regds

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Subject: [IAC#RG] NOW GOA CIC CLAIMS HE IS EQUIVALENT IN RANK WITH A SUPREME COURT JUDGE

 

Goa’s beleaguered Chief Information Commissioner (CIC) Prashant Prabhu Tendolkar while trying to justify his using the red beacon has today claimed that he is equivalent in rank with a Supreme Court Judge.

In a reply to the show cause notice issued to him by the Transport department over the illegal use of the red beacon it has been claimed that the red beacon was being used on the official vehicle since 2010 by the earlier CIC.

In the reply it has been further stated that if the mere non inclusion of the CIC in the State list disentitles him from using the red beacon, it would amount that the other central dignitaries whose names are not included on the list cannot also use the red beacon in the State.

Strangely in the four page reply signed by Irene Sequeira the Secretary of the Goa State Information Commission it has been also claimed that the salaries and allowances of the CIC are equivalent to that of the Chief Election Commissioner though Section 16 (5) of the Right to Information Act states that the salaries and allowances of the State chief Information Commissioner shall be the same as that of an Election Commissioner. 

The show cause notice was issued to CIC Prashant Tendolkar after on 9^th Feb a complaint was filed against the CIC for illegally and blatantly using the red beacon on his official vehicle GA-07-G-5555 in clear defiance of law.

 

In accordance with the Supreme Court order the Goa Government by a notification issued on 3^rd July 2014 notified the list of persons entitled to use the red beacon on their official vehicle. As per that notification only allowed to use the red beacon are the Governor, Chief Minister and Ministers, Speaker, Deputy Speaker, Chief Justice and Judges of the High Court, Leader of Opposition, Advocate General and the Chief Secretary.

 

As the misuse of the red beacon by Goa’s Chief Information Commissioner Prashant Prabhu Tendolkar in defiance of law is being allowed to continue in connivance with some ruling BJP politicians, the Supreme Court of India would be moved next week by way of a Contempt of Court petition to ensure that the rule of law is not allowed to be made a casualty.

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Re: [IAC#RG] TREAT STUDENT POLITICIAN AS POLITICIAN AND NOT AS STUDENT

20/2/16

Today there is a news item that Virat Kohli,s Pakistani fan,s bail plea has been dismissed by a Court notwithstanding a clean chit by the police.

The crime is hoisting an Indian Flag atop his home.  He has been arrested on charge of treason and facing an imprisonment upto 10 years.

Compare it with what is happening in JNU and others like film institute in Pune. All in the name of freedom of speech.

We keep swearing by the Constituion and the fundamental rights and never ever mention about the fundamental duties enumerated therin.

We have become a nation fed on the diet of rights but words like duties and respect have disappeared.

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Agree with Sh George ji and Shri Ajay Narain ji.
In University one is these to STUDY period.
If any discussion or debate is to happen it has to be in the curriculum and in classrooms.

The worst part in this is the professors in these univs.
The level of teaching has gone DOWN.
This is so obvious but it is obscured by babble talk.

Discipline is part of studies and one can see in a glance the ppl who have skipped this important part.
Regards to all.

On 19 Feb 2016 05:10, "anil pannikker" <anilpannikker@gmail.com> wrote:

What kind of moronic views are being expressed in the name of nationalism. At least increase your level of understanding before you write such nonsense. Do you think our country has become so weak that it is threatened by some slogan-shouting youth. BJP forming government with PDP the party which officially treat afzal as Martyr is nationalistic and forming government with the Alkali 's who tore the Constitution is also nationalistic act. Television anchors who are branding an entire university as anti-nationals and inciting violence against helpless students are unbiased.... What kind of people you are?? And what about the dumb police men who are only good in taking bribe and beating up helpless people.? Do we need such a police for a nation like ours?

On 17 Feb 2016 22:43, "Dr Ajay Narain" <drajaynarain@hotmail.com> wrote:

I whole heartedly endorse your views.The primary duty of students is to pay attention on their studies and not indulge in politics due to misguided politicians. The ugly situation which happened in JNU and subsequent interference by politicians of all hue particularly defense of such unpatriotic gundaas of the university by Congress and Left parties was most unworthy and shameful.Instead of condemning the event they talked about freedom of speech,quoting the Constitution,without understanding the limits of it.Calling the action of the govt a fascist act is utter nonsense.In fact they should have cooperated in identifying the culprits as most belong to their cadre. 

        Further, most of the TV Channels,have also become the mouthpieces of the Left parties as many of the anchors come from the same background.There is a evident bias in their not only reporting but also they deliberately bring panelist who support anti nationalists,and try to defame the the rightful action by the police.

Dr A. Narain. 

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On Feb 14, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:

    

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                                                                                          TREAT STUDENT POLITICIAN AS POLITICIAN AND NOT AS STUDENT

When I was a student in Annamalai University in Tamil Nadu, I attended a meeting addressed by Mr. V.V.Giri, former Vice President and President of India.

During the question and answer session, I asked Mr.V.V.Giri as to whether the students can get themselves involved in political activities. Mr. V.V. Giri replied without hesitation that students should do the following three things, namely study, study and study.

Mr. Giri  who was an active trade union leader before becoming the Vice President of India pointed out that students should know politics but should not involve themselves in politics, as it would divert the attention from the primary task of studying and learning. Students getting involved in politics is neither in their interest nor in the interest of the nation.

The recent incidents in J N U, Delhi , where students planned cultural programme to protest against the hanging of Afzal Guru, the agitation by students in Hyderabad University when a student committed suicide and the support readily given to such agitations by politicians , only highlight the fact that politics have made deep inroads in the academic institutions and universities.

In recent times in Tamil Nadu,  several students have indulged in rowdy like behavior and frequently indulged in condemnable acts such as fighting between themselves with knives, hijacking the transport buses and even murdering teachers. Many of such students have affiliations to one political party or the other and if the police would initiate action against them, politicians interfere in their support.

It is seen that more than 95% of the students are interested only in academic pursuits. Only  minority  of students who have criminal mind set or who want to launch themselves as politicians in future, indulge in such rowdy like behavior.  Unfortunately, the print and visual media give huge publicity to such deplorable activities of small group of students, which virtually amount to encouraging  them,  as these politicians in the making get all the publicity that they want.

In this scenario, it is appropriate that the Government of India has taken action against the agitating JNU students  and strongly deplored their behavior. As expected, several politicians in the opposition parties and some so called activists criticize the  action of the government of India with  ready made statements such as curtailing the freedom and reminiscence of the emergency days etc. As usual, the print and visual media give more publicity and space  to the activities of the student and utterances of the critical politicians, than the views of the government.

It is high time that we treat the student  politician as politician and not as student and refrain from giving the benefit of treating  with kid gloves. 

N.S.Venkataraman

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Re: [IAC#RG] NOW GOA CIC CLAIMS HE IS EQUIVALENT IN RANK WITH A SUPREME COURT JUDGE

Before moving the SC, I am sure that you would have carefully
anticipated the defence adopted by the SCIC. In my view, under RTI Act
whereas the SCIC is equated to the status of a CENTRAL Election
Commissioner, the SICs are under the STATE Govt. (and equated to the
Chief Secretary).

Since all these persons are notified to use red beacons, I recall
reading somewhere that the SC judgment allowed equals to be treated
equally.

Sarbajit

On 2/19/16, Aires Rodrigues <airesrodrigues1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Goa's beleaguered Chief Information Commissioner (CIC) Prashant Prabhu
> Tendolkar while trying to justify his using the red beacon has today
> claimed that he is equivalent in rank with a Supreme Court Judge.
>
> In a reply to the show cause notice issued to him by the Transport
> department over the illegal use of the red beacon it has been claimed that
> the red beacon was being used on the official vehicle since 2010 by the
> earlier CIC.
>
> In the reply it has been further stated that if the mere non inclusion of
> the CIC in the State list disentitles him from using the red beacon, it
> would amount that the other central dignitaries whose names are not
> included on the list cannot also use the red beacon in the State.
>
> Strangely in the four page reply signed by Irene Sequeira the Secretary of
> the Goa State Information Commission it has been also claimed that the
> salaries and allowances of the CIC are equivalent to that of the *Chief
> Election Commissioner* though Section 16 (5) of the Right to Information
> Act states that the salaries and allowances of the State chief Information
> Commissioner shall be the same as that of an *Election Commissioner. *
>
> The show cause notice was issued to CIC Prashant Tendolkar after on 9th Feb
> a complaint was filed against the CIC for illegally and blatantly using the
> red beacon on his official vehicle GA-07-G-5555 in clear defiance of law.
>
> In accordance with the Supreme Court order the Goa Government by a
> notification issued on 3rd July 2014 notified the list of persons entitled
> to use the red beacon on their official vehicle. As per that notification
> only allowed to use the red beacon are the Governor, Chief Minister and
> Ministers, Speaker, Deputy Speaker, Chief Justice and Judges of the High
> Court, Leader of Opposition, Advocate General and the Chief Secretary.
>
> As the misuse of the red beacon by Goa's Chief Information Commissioner
> Prashant Prabhu Tendolkar in defiance of law is being allowed to continue
> in connivance with some ruling BJP politicians, the Supreme Court of India
> would be moved next week by way of a Contempt of Court petition to ensure
> that the rule of law is not allowed to be made a casualty.
>
> Aires Rodrigues
> Advocate High Court
> C/G-2, Shopping Complex
> Ribandar Retreat,
> Ribandar – Goa – 403006
> Mobile No: 9822684372
> Office Tel No: (0832) 2444012
> Email: airesrodrigues1@gmail.com

Re: [IAC#RG] A PANCHANAMA OF BJP’s FOUR YEARS IN OFFICE

@Ravindran

Lets see if I understand you correctly. You say - Modi can be a lying
rascal. BJP are lying rascals, (of course RSS were the original lying
rascals - who played no part in securing India's "independence"), so
they can all lie to lure voters. Furthermore, while it was definitely
wrong for Indira Gandhi to bend/twist/subvert the rules during
Emergency, but its perfectly OK for Modi/BJP to do so now (in the
national interest) for they are all honorable men (and not a woman in
sight).

Everybody who is clued in sees that this present BJP govt is even more
corrupt, divisive unresponsive and opaque than Congress was, and their
"achievements" are only in social media and paid newspapers advts.
BTW, AAP is afflicted by the same problem and there is full blown
megalomania in both these parties.

Sarbajit

On 2/19/16, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Vidyut
>
> I have not heard an even more stupid argument before! BJP is not the first
> to use false election promises to lure voters. In fact even that a legacy
> of the scamgress! And Modi or BJP cannot be expected to wave any magic wand
> to undo these treacherous acts in a jiffy! There is something known as
> playing with existing rules till one can get to change them as per one's
> choice or public needs!
>
> ravi
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 1:43 AM, Vidyut <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> @ Ravindran PM
>>
>> I hope you realize you're dumping Vajpayee into the Congress muck.
>>
>> Jokes apart, the point is to measure achievements against claims. No one
>> had forced BJP to make promises it cannot deliver. If it is not possible
>> to
>> "clean 60 years of muck" (as though the country achieved nothing till
>> Modi), then BJP could have promised what it could do - which is the idea
>> of
>> election promises, no? BJP hadn't promised to "clean 60 years of muck" -
>> nor does it seem to even be interested in starting, it had promised
>> specific actions, which it did not deliver, as Aires Rodrigues pointed
>> out.
>> I fail to see the utility of generalizing very specific evaluations into
>> some mumbo jumbo that ends up somehow blaming Congress. If BJP cannot
>> govern a place ruled by Congress before, it might as well quit politics.
>>
>> Vidyut

Re: [IAC#RG] TREAT STUDENT POLITICIAN AS POLITICIAN AND NOT AS STUDENT

Please let me know why your site is saying nothing in defence of the students and staff who were beaten up within the court compound and against the so-called lawyers who instigated the crimes or the police who looked on and did nothing?

To the manager's of this site: why has no one filed a writ against the police's inaction and their complicity with the perpetrators of mob violence?

Joya Roy

On 19 Feb 2016 23:31, "Dharmesh Dutta" <duttadharmesh@gmail.com> wrote:

There exists a great deal of cacophony that's secondary to our lives, in that most of us who share our thoughts are neither the culprits nor the victims, lest we should have had radical views.

The question therefore is, 'How often our collective thoughts have been well structured that deserved eyes and ears of the nation so diverse?'

On the captioned topic, the choice is between those who want to become politicians to camouflage their 'fear' and those who steadfastly pursue it as a career. Whilst the former needs no great sacrifice, the latter entails persecution. Its the balance between the two that decides the success or failure of democracy.

We need all sorts of professionals to cater to over 1.2 billion population. Then why not a professional 'Student Politician'?

Our institutions have indeed produced some of the brilliant minds and should be as such held in high esteem.

At 17 we complete schooling and enter into a professional stream. Give the 'Student Politician' a decade (5 years of knowledge + 5 years of wisdom) to get into the mainstream politics, else he or she shall no longer be construed as a 'Student Politician' thereby paving way for other aspirants.

The very fact that we have "Elections" and "Unions" goes to prove that a teacher need not always teach and a student need not always study!

Regards
Dharmesh

On Feb 17, 2016 10:54 PM, "Dr Ajay Narain" <drajaynarain@hotmail.com> wrote:

I whole heartedly endorse your views.The primary duty of students is to pay attention on their studies and not indulge in politics due to misguided politicians. The ugly situation which happened in JNU and subsequent interference by politicians of all hue particularly defense of such unpatriotic gundaas of the university by Congress and Left parties was most unworthy and shameful.Instead of condemning the event they talked about freedom of speech,quoting the Constitution,without understanding the limits of it.Calling the action of the govt a fascist act is utter nonsense.In fact they should have cooperated in identifying the culprits as most belong to their cadre. 

        Further, most of the TV Channels,have also become the mouthpieces of the Left parties as many of the anchors come from the same background.There is a evident bias in their not only reporting but also they deliberately bring panelist who support anti nationalists,and try to defame the the rightful action by the police.

Dr A. Narain. 

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On Feb 14, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:

    

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                                                                                          TREAT STUDENT POLITICIAN AS POLITICIAN AND NOT AS STUDENT

When I was a student in Annamalai University in Tamil Nadu, I attended a meeting addressed by Mr. V.V.Giri, former Vice President and President of India.

During the question and answer session, I asked Mr.V.V.Giri as to whether the students can get themselves involved in political activities. Mr. V.V. Giri replied without hesitation that students should do the following three things, namely study, study and study.

Mr. Giri  who was an active trade union leader before becoming the Vice President of India pointed out that students should know politics but should not involve themselves in politics, as it would divert the attention from the primary task of studying and learning. Students getting involved in politics is neither in their interest nor in the interest of the nation.

The recent incidents in J N U, Delhi , where students planned cultural programme to protest against the hanging of Afzal Guru, the agitation by students in Hyderabad University when a student committed suicide and the support readily given to such agitations by politicians , only highlight the fact that politics have made deep inroads in the academic institutions and universities.

In recent times in Tamil Nadu,  several students have indulged in rowdy like behavior and frequently indulged in condemnable acts such as fighting between themselves with knives, hijacking the transport buses and even murdering teachers. Many of such students have affiliations to one political party or the other and if the police would initiate action against them, politicians interfere in their support.

It is seen that more than 95% of the students are interested only in academic pursuits. Only  minority  of students who have criminal mind set or who want to launch themselves as politicians in future, indulge in such rowdy like behavior.  Unfortunately, the print and visual media give huge publicity to such deplorable activities of small group of students, which virtually amount to encouraging  them,  as these politicians in the making get all the publicity that they want.

In this scenario, it is appropriate that the Government of India has taken action against the agitating JNU students  and strongly deplored their behavior. As expected, several politicians in the opposition parties and some so called activists criticize the  action of the government of India with  ready made statements such as curtailing the freedom and reminiscence of the emergency days etc. As usual, the print and visual media give more publicity and space  to the activities of the student and utterances of the critical politicians, than the views of the government.

It is high time that we treat the student  politician as politician and not as student and refrain from giving the benefit of treating  with kid gloves. 

N.S.Venkataraman

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Re: [IAC#RG] NOW GOA CIC CLAIMS HE IS EQUIVALENT IN RANK WITH A SUPREMECOURT JUDGE

It's time that Goa governor should remove the SIC forthwith now that he made it clear that he is there for the status, pay and perks(and of course, the red beacon too!) of the SIC post, not for the sake of implementation of the RTI Act, 2009 in the state, which ought to be the sole purpose of his existence. 

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Goa's beleaguered Chief Information Commissioner (CIC) Prashant Prabhu Tendolkar while trying to justify his using the red beacon has today claimed that he is equivalent in rank with a Supreme Court Judge.

In a reply to the show cause notice issued to him by the Transport department over the illegal use of the red beacon it has been claimed that the red beacon was being used on the official vehicle since 2010 by the earlier CIC.

In the reply it has been further stated that if the mere non inclusion of the CIC in the State list disentitles him from using the red beacon, it would amount that the other central dignitaries whose names are not included on the list cannot also use the red beacon in the State.

Strangely in the four page reply signed by Irene Sequeira the Secretary of the Goa State Information Commission it has been also claimed that the salaries and allowances of the CIC are equivalent to that of the Chief Election Commissioner though Section 16 (5) of the Right to Information Act states that the salaries and allowances of the State chief Information Commissioner shall be the same as that of an Election Commissioner. 

The show cause notice was issued to CIC Prashant Tendolkar after on 9^th Feb a complaint was filed against the CIC for illegally and blatantly using the red beacon on his official vehicle GA-07-G-5555 in clear defiance of law.

 

In accordance with the Supreme Court order the Goa Government by a notification issued on 3^rd July 2014 notified the list of persons entitled to use the red beacon on their official vehicle. As per that notification only allowed to use the red beacon are the Governor, Chief Minister and Ministers, Speaker, Deputy Speaker, Chief Justice and Judges of the High Court, Leader of Opposition, Advocate General and the Chief Secretary.

 

As the misuse of the red beacon by Goa's Chief Information Commissioner Prashant Prabhu Tendolkar in defiance of law is being allowed to continue in connivance with some ruling BJP politicians, the Supreme Court of India would be moved next week by way of a Contempt of Court petition to ensure that the rule of law is not allowed to be made a casualty.

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[IAC#RG] JNU tamasha

Sick of this JNU tamasha!

Can somebody do a gag trick on the media to SHUT THEM UP!!!

The most irresponsible bunch of individuals that are ruining the nation!

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Re: [IAC#RG] A piece of satire comprising real arguments and terminology of the 'nationalists'

Have you sent it to the embodiment of India  in human form to read ?

Hiranmay

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http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/NewsDetail/index/1/6867/Letter-From-a-Desh-Bhakt-Hey-You-Terrorists-and-Presstitutes

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Re:[IAC#RG] TREAT STUDENT POLITICIAN AS POLITICIAN AND NOT AS STUDENT

As part of University Faculty in Kolkata - I have always perceived my role as: Co-learners. So I had lecture plans - divided in three equal parts - deliberation, with board work - sequenced with the syllabus; Questions related to the deliberation; and finally - some advances in knowledge - after the syllabus was framed. The last part was basically related to findings of new research and the added wisdom in the body of knowledge.

I found students - very appreciative, attentive and seeking information. They were respectful. I saw - each student - wanted to share some personal things about themselves. The sought to open up. I observed - they sought someone to mentor.

Thus is where the real trial of the faculty begins at University level:

1. To understand the inherent talents and attributes of the concerned student - and encourage the student to be what s/he is.

2. To use the student as a tool and propagate through her/him - my thoughts and beliefs. 

I respect students. I have questions for the faculty - who use them.

Amitava Sanyal 

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Date: 02-19-2016 11:48 (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] TREAT STUDENT POLITICIAN AS POLITICIAN AND NOT AS STUDENT

Agree with Sh George ji and Shri Ajay Narain ji.
In University one is these to STUDY period.
If any discussion or debate is to happen it has to be in the curriculum and in classrooms.

The worst part in this is the professors in these univs.
The level of teaching has gone DOWN.
This is so obvious but it is obscured by babble talk.

Discipline is part of studies and one can see in a glance the ppl who have skipped this important part.
Regards to all.

On 19 Feb 2016 05:10, "anil pannikker" <anilpannikker@gmail.com> wrote:

What kind of moronic views are being expressed in the name of nationalism. At least increase your level of understanding before you write such nonsense. Do you think our country has become so weak that it is threatened by some slogan-shouting youth. BJP forming government with PDP the party which officially treat afzal as Martyr is nationalistic and forming government with the Alkali 's who tore the Constitution is also nationalistic act. Television anchors who are branding an entire university as anti-nationals and inciting violence against helpless students are unbiased.... What kind of people you are?? And what about the dumb police men who are only good in taking bribe and beating up helpless people.? Do we need such a police for a nation like ours?

On 17 Feb 2016 22:43, "Dr Ajay Narain" <drajaynarain@hotmail.com> wrote:

I whole heartedly endorse your views.The primary duty of students is to pay attention on their studies and not indulge in politics due to misguided politicians. The ugly situation which happened in JNU and subsequent interference by politicians of all hue particularly defense of such unpatriotic gundaas of the university by Congress and Left parties was most unworthy and shameful.Instead of condemning the event they talked about freedom of speech,quoting the Constitution,without understanding the limits of it.Calling the action of the govt a fascist act is utter nonsense.In fact they should have cooperated in identifying the culprits as most belong to their cadre. 

        Further, most of the TV Channels,have also become the mouthpieces of the Left parties as many of the anchors come from the same background.There is a evident bias in their not only reporting but also they deliberately bring panelist who support anti nationalists,and try to defame the the rightful action by the police.

Dr A. Narain. 

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To

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                                                                                          TREAT STUDENT POLITICIAN AS POLITICIAN AND NOT AS STUDENT

When I was a student in Annamalai University in Tamil Nadu, I attended a meeting addressed by Mr. V.V.Giri, former Vice President and President of India.

During the question and answer session, I asked Mr.V.V.Giri as to whether the students can get themselves involved in political activities. Mr. V.V. Giri replied without hesitation that students should do the following three things, namely study, study and study.

Mr. Giri  who was an active trade union leader before becoming the Vice President of India pointed out that students should know politics but should not involve themselves in politics, as it would divert the attention from the primary task of studying and learning. Students getting involved in politics is neither in their interest nor in the interest of the nation.

The recent incidents in J N U, Delhi , where students planned cultural programme to protest against the hanging of Afzal Guru, the agitation by students in Hyderabad University when a student committed suicide and the support readily given to such agitations by politicians , only highlight the fact that politics have made deep inroads in the academic institutions and universities.

In recent times in Tamil Nadu,  several students have indulged in rowdy like behavior and frequently indulged in condemnable acts such as fighting between themselves with knives, hijacking the transport buses and even murdering teachers. Many of such students have affiliations to one political party or the other and if the police would initiate action against them, politicians interfere in their support.

It is seen that more than 95% of the students are interested only in academic pursuits. Only  minority  of students who have criminal mind set or who want to launch themselves as politicians in future, indulge in such rowdy like behavior.  Unfortunately, the print and visual media give huge publicity to such deplorable activities of small group of students, which virtually amount to encouraging  them,  as these politicians in the making get all the publicity that they want.

In this scenario, it is appropriate that the Government of India has taken action against the agitating JNU students  and strongly deplored their behavior. As expected, several politicians in the opposition parties and some so called activists criticize the  action of the government of India with  ready made statements such as curtailing the freedom and reminiscence of the emergency days etc. As usual, the print and visual media give more publicity and space  to the activities of the student and utterances of the critical politicians, than the views of the government.

It is high time that we treat the student  politician as politician and not as student and refrain from giving the benefit of treating  with kid gloves. 

N.S.Venkataraman

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Re: [IAC#RG] Swaraj Abhiyan exposed as Congress proxy

YES YOU ARE RIGHT!
Plus,
SWARAJ ABHIYAAN IS THE REAL AAP, THAT STANDS FOR SWARAJ !
The call on which we ALL rallied with AAP .
PURAN SWARAJ IS WHAT WILL UNITE BHARAT, end the colonial hangover ! Poison of politics and partyvaad that divides& poisons every heart.
Yes ! PURAN SWARAJ IS THE INCOMPLETE AGENDA OF OUR FREEDOM STRUGGLE AND WE MUST STAND United, AKHAAND, TO BECOME 'AKHAAND BHARAT' and attain PURAN SWARAJ!!!
Regards,Pawan.
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> On 10-Feb-2016, at 7:37 pm, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> When did I ask for support of any volunteers?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 08-Feb-2016, at 3:59 pm, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 8/2/16
>>
>> Dear Sh. S. Roy
>>
>> I agree that you have known these people-Aruna Roy, Arvind K and others more than most of us and therefore,your opinon should carry weight.
>> But now that Yogendra Yadav and P. Bhusan have invited her for support on 27-28, You cannot complain for the simple reason that Sh. Shantibhusanji had asked for your support of volunteers and you flatly refused.
>> Aruna Roy is now free from NAC and even in Rural employment schemes there is not much she can do. But certainly She has not been an anti-corruption crusader.Obviously her choice is wrong on the face of it .May be it is one time association.
>> Your assessment of Y.Yadav is correct.It would have been better if he had stuck to his earlier profession.
>> Prashant Bhusan has his commitments in PILs and the Courts. He cannot give more push to SA. Also he is not a public speaker like AK.
>> I understand that Anna Hazare has also been invited and he has agreed to participate. If that happens,it will be interesting to see what stands he takes against AK.
>> Ford Foundation or foreign financed outfits-will continue to flourish as they have been continuing for the last 65 years. Their roots and spread is very wide.
>> Finally if Swabhiman Abhiyan does not take off, some of the critics of AAP may rejoin AK or Congess(RG).
>> Reds
>> Jk>Gaur
>> ________________________________________
>> From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2016 10:59 PM
>> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
>> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Swaraj Abhiyan exposed as Congress proxy
>>
>> Dear Rakesh
>>
>> In my experience the persons are more important than the process.
>>
>> Our views on those persons are consistent and in public domain. If SA
>> chooses to associate with them, it is because discredited and rootless
>> persons like Yogendra Yadav are finding nobody else.
>>
>> It is absolutely inconceivable that professional parasites like Aruna
>> Roy et al are any kind of anti-corruption experts. The recent episode
>> where they got CIC Vijai Sharma to invite them (and only them) to the
>> CIC 10th RTI Convention so they could call for PM's speech to be
>> boycotted completely exposes them as Congress agents.
>>
>> It is very clear that fronts like so-called Swaraj Abhiyan are devices
>> to collective the disaffected for some Congress/AAP controlled
>> Maha-Gatbandhan in the future. I rather suspect that Yogendra Yadav
>> would go crawling back to AAP if invited and given some token post.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>>> On 2/7/16, Rakesh Manchanda <rakeshmanchanda65@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> It will be more sad for us if Corruption as *process* is not challenged
>>> collectively by all.
>>>
>>> Sh.Sarajeet roy your alert focus is more is on *persons and not on the
>>> process.*
>>>
>>> I agree your team should have invited during the finalisation of speakers
>>> in this new group-Anti Corruption Team-ACT.
>>>
>>> Yesterday few of us as independent birds attended the ACT preparation meet
>>> and it was cleared Swaraj Abhiyan is only one of several stakeholder
>>> groups.
>>>
>>> By the way this funda of Funds source alert controlling the agenda as
>>> highlighted by you is stale.
>>>
>>> This alert is unknowingly used again and again wherein the modern logic
>>> remains that 90% taxpayers who pay taxes need to get their funds and
>>> services back from the 10% corrupt lobbies.
>>>
>>> Allow me to share a recent article via link in this direction....
>>>
>>> Tolerance Vs Intolerance -Global Game controlled by 1%?
>>> http://beyondheadlines.in/2015/11/tolerance-vs-intolerance/
>>>
>>> Warm Regards,
>>>
>>> Rakesh Manchanda
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[IAC#RG] NOW GOA CIC CLAIMS HE IS EQUIVALENT IN RANK WITH A SUPREME COURT JUDGE

Goa's beleaguered Chief Information Commissioner (CIC) Prashant Prabhu Tendolkar while trying to justify his using the red beacon has today claimed that he is equivalent in rank with a Supreme Court Judge.

In a reply to the show cause notice issued to him by the Transport department over the illegal use of the red beacon it has been claimed that the red beacon was being used on the official vehicle since 2010 by the earlier CIC.

In the reply it has been further stated that if the mere non inclusion of the CIC in the State list disentitles him from using the red beacon, it would amount that the other central dignitaries whose names are not included on the list cannot also use the red beacon in the State.

Strangely in the four page reply signed by Irene Sequeira the Secretary of the Goa State Information Commission it has been also claimed that the salaries and allowances of the CIC are equivalent to that of the Chief Election Commissioner though Section 16 (5) of the Right to Information Act states that the salaries and allowances of the State chief Information Commissioner shall be the same as that of an Election Commissioner. 

The show cause notice was issued to CIC Prashant Tendolkar after on 9^th Feb a complaint was filed against the CIC for illegally and blatantly using the red beacon on his official vehicle GA-07-G-5555 in clear defiance of law.

 

In accordance with the Supreme Court order the Goa Government by a notification issued on 3^rd July 2014 notified the list of persons entitled to use the red beacon on their official vehicle. As per that notification only allowed to use the red beacon are the Governor, Chief Minister and Ministers, Speaker, Deputy Speaker, Chief Justice and Judges of the High Court, Leader of Opposition, Advocate General and the Chief Secretary.

 

As the misuse of the red beacon by Goa's Chief Information Commissioner Prashant Prabhu Tendolkar in defiance of law is being allowed to continue in connivance with some ruling BJP politicians, the Supreme Court of India would be moved next week by way of a Contempt of Court petition to ensure that the rule of law is not allowed to be made a casualty.

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