Saturday, February 1, 2014
Re: [IAC#RG] ARVIND KEJRIWAL - HOW CLEAN IS THIS MAN
no holds bar campaign & unruly horse rabble rousing style of politics
may loose it,s sheen soon
On 1/25/14, Manohar Sharma <mspropertyresource@gmail.com> wrote:
> U may be right but I am victim when I visit any of Government office and
> give my written complaint the inward clerk does not issue inward No
> .,immediately so I have to visit twice and to follow months and months no
> action it only protesting to criminals.what u call it ? Is not like
> BRITISHER'S RULE ?
>
> What's u r PRIDE being an INDIAN they insult u & no protest when u be angry
> u r to go out of the system ?
>
> Is it a right ? or Wrong ? who is to blame ?
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Bhushan Nagpal <bbnagpal@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I FEEL THAT THE CONSTITUTION IS CLEAR THAT THE DELHI POLICE WILL REMAIN
>> UNDER THE CENTRAL GOVERNMENT AND THE LAWS ARE CLEAR THAT ONE CANNOT
>> CONDUCT
>> RAIDS AT ONE'S WHIMS AND FANCIES WITHOUT AN FIR.
>>
>> IT IS EQUALLY CLEAR THAT THIS NATION VALUES ITS REPUBLIC DAY, AND
>> THEREFORE THE CM SHOULD SHIFT HIS PROTEST -- THOUGH I FEEL INSULTED THAT
>> WE
>> HAVE A CM WHO TAKES TO THE STREETS LIKE THIS - TO JANTAR MANTAR OR
>> ELSEWHERE
>>
>> AND A CM WHO WANTS FREE WATER OR CHEAPER ELECTRICITY CANNOT BURDEN
>> CITIZENS WITH THE KIND OF TRAFFIC PROBLEMS THAT THE AREA NEAR RAIL BHAVAN
>> IS FACING, OR INFLICT THE ADDITIONAL COST OF EITHER THE POLICE BANDOBAST
>> OR
>> SABOTAGING THE PARADE WHICH WILL CAUSE SEVERAL HUNDRED CRORES.
>>
>> AND MOST IMPORTANT, WHY IS HE OR ANY OF HIS AAP FRIENDS UNABLE TO ANSWER
>> THE CHARGES BY THE WRITER OF THE ARTICLE REPRODUCED BELOW.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 3:12 PM, Manohar Sharma <
>> mspropertyresource@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If u r complaint doesn't listen than what u do ? u go to higher C.M and u
>> r complaint reversed by C.M. again to the same officer than what officer
>> will ask u / or openly insult u ? what action will u take and against whom
>> ?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Bhushan Nagpal
>> <bbnagpal@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>> I WONDER IF WHAT KEJRIWAL IS DOING TODAY OUTSIDE RAIL BHAVAN IS SOMETHING
>> THE MAHATMA WOULD HAVE APPRECIATED?
>> EVEN THE MAHATMA KNEW WHERE STATESMANSHIP ENDED AND ANARCHY STARTED.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, January 20, 2014 4:42 PM, Manohar Sharma <
>> mspropertyresource@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Have u or your family feel full INDEPENDENCE as of dreamed by MAHATMA
>> GANDHI ?
>>
>> Have u fully understand the LAWS and ACTS of INDIAN ORIGIN ? or r
>> 'BRITISH' copied one.
>>
>> It's u r own country u should stand in as a TRUE INDIAN (BHARTIYA).
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Bhushan Nagpal
>> <bbnagpal@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
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>> MR SARBJIT ROY
>> CONVENOR
>> INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION
>>
>> Dear Friend,
>> PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT I AM REPRODUCING THE ARTICLE FOR INFORMATION, AND
>> DO NOT HOLD A POSITION WITH REGARD TO THE AAM AADMI PARTY.
>>
>> A LOT OF US ARE VERY IMPRESSED WITH ARVIND KEJRIWAL, WHO FIRST FORMED THE
>> DELHI GOVERNMENT WITH JUST AROUND 27 PER CENT OF THE VOTES AND IS NOW
>> AIMING TO QUIT THE CM'S POST TO FIGHT THE LOK SABHA POLLS.
>>
>> I CAME ACROSS AN ARTICLE IN THE OPEN PAGE OF THE HINDU WHICH I FOUND VERY
>> INTERESTING, AND SO I AM FORWARDING THIS. I WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR
>> HIS RESEARCH, AND THAT IS WHY I AM COPYING THIS TO HIM.
>>
>> IT TALKS MAINLY ABOUT KEJRIWAL AND PRASHANT BHUSHAN.
>>
>> KIRAN BEDI DID NOT JOIN THE AAP AND APPEARED TO BE CLOSE TO ANNA. BUT SHE
>> IS
>> READY TO BACK NARENDRA MODI. (PERHAPS SHE HAS FORGOTTEN THE ROLE OF DELHI
>> POLICE, OF WHICH SHE WAS A MEMBER, WAY BACK IN 1984.) BUT I WONDER IF IT
>> IS FAIR FOR A POLICE OFFICER TO JUST QUIT WHEN SHE IS DENIED A PROMOTION,
>> INSTEAD OF FIGHTING A LEGAL BATTLE - OR PERHAPS IT WAS BECAUSE STAR TV
>> OFFERED HER A LUCRATIVE PROGRAMME BECAUSE OF HER KNOWLEDGE OF LAW?
>>
>> ANYWAY, HERE IS THE ARTICLE:
>>
>> *Understanding Arvind Kejriwal*
>>
>>
>> Strange things without any rational basis can happen in a nation of 128
>> crore people. Now, Arvind Kejriwal is projected as an "honest and
>> different
>> politician" who fights evil. Only when the electronic media calm down
>> will his real face emerge.
>>
>> Consider how he got out of government service. While serving as a Joint
>> Commissioner in the Revenue Department (Income Tax) under the Finance
>> Ministry, he went on a sabbatical (paid leave) from November 1, 2000 to
>> October 31, 2002, and went abroad. One condition for such leave is that
>> the
>> employee must serve continuously for at least three years after return,
>> failing which he or she must pay back the salary he drew over two years
>> with penalty.
>>
>> There is a bond to be executed, with witnesses and guarantors. Mr.
>> Kejriwal re-joined duty on November 1, 2002 but at once went on 18
>> months'
>> leave without pay: he did not serve continuously. He resigned in February
>> 2006. As he had jumped bond, his resignation was not accepted.
>>
>> The Income Tax Department sent him a notice in 2007 and again in 2008
>> asking him to pay up. Mr. Kejriwal, who was by then appearing on TV
>> almost
>> every day, expected the government to budge. He said the government could
>> deduct the dues from his retirement benefits; as he had done no wrong,
>> his
>> dues must be waived. After sending a notice on August 5, the department
>> sent another in September asking him to pay up before October 27, 2011 —
>> failing which he would not be relieved and he would not get his
>> retirement
>> benefits.
>>
>> Attachment of his property and criminal action could follow. Mr. Kejriwal
>> termed it an attempt to create obstacles to his agitation against
>> corruption. When he did not respond by October 27, the department asked
>> his
>> guarantors to pay. Mr. Kejriwal pleaded his friends should not be
>> disturbed. When it became clear the government would initiate
>> proceedings,
>> he announced on October 30, 2011 that he would borrow from his friends
>> and
>> pay the dues of Rs.9.28 lakh. He wrote to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh
>> on
>> November 3, 2011 enclosing the cheque.
>>
>> Certain things tend to be forgotten amid the din. An impression has been
>> created that the Aam Aadmi Party enjoys the support of 2.2 crore
>> Delhiites.
>> It got only 29 per cent of the votes. That means 71 per cent of voters
>> rejected it.
>>
>> The AAP laid 18 conditions to get Congress support, some of them mere
>> administrative actions like removing red beacons from vehicles. He said
>> he
>> had written to the BJP and the Congress on these, and once he got replies
>> he would go to the people and ask them what to do. However, the Congress
>> did not accept the conditions. Yet, the AAP formed the government with
>> Congress support.
>>
>> It is doubtful whether the schemes announced by AAP can be implemented.
>> The Delhi government has a deficit of Rs.1,725 crore. After announcing a
>> 50
>> per cent reduction in power tariff, he announced it was only under
>> consideration. He had asked people not to pay power bills. Many did not,
>> and faced power theft cases. If Mr. Kejriwal withdraws the cases that
>> would
>> be a bad precedent; no court will permit that. If he does not, his
>> followers will feel victimised. While he promised 700 litres of water per
>> capita, residents in many areas now beg for at least 20 litres. Only 68
>> per
>> cent of households have piped water supply.
>>
>> Mr. Kejriwal is known for his sensational announcements. During a first
>> round of fasting action, he said he would expose corruption by 15 Union
>> Ministers. In December 2013 he said he had proof to show five Ministers
>> had
>> Swiss bank accounts. He said in November 2012 the Central government had
>> a
>> list of 700 Indians who had stashed money in HSBC Bank in Geneva, and
>> demanded that foreign banks give all the names to the government; he
>> asked
>> HSBC Bank's staff members in India to resign.
>>
>> The most popular of his stunts was restoring power connections severed
>> for
>> non-payment as he felt the tariff was high. As cameramen clicked away,
>> with
>> a pair of cutting pliers he connected the wires on June 27, 2013.
>> Although
>> it was an offence under the Electricity Act, the electricity authorities
>> did not act fearing his TV-based backing. He chose to take law into his
>> hands, sending a message that he did not believe in a democratic way of
>> functioning. This is in tune with his other activities like offering
>> dharna
>> in front of the Prime Minister's house, violating orders under Section
>> 144.
>>
>> What Mr. Kejriwal has done, has been done by so many other politicians.
>> Prashant Bhushan of the AAP wanted a referendum held in Kashmir to
>> determine people's opinion on the presence of the Army. Mr. Kejriwal said
>> it was Mr. Bhushan's personal opinion but the consent of local citizens
>> must be ascertained. But there is no difference between a referendum and
>> getting people's consent. On January 12, Mr. Bhushan said the police must
>> be withdrawn from Naxalite-hit areas.
>>
>> Mr. Kejriwal is yet another politician who has resorted to politics as
>> his
>> last refuge. I wonder if Meera Sanyal, V. Balakrishnan and Captain
>> Gopinath
>> have done their due diligence before joining the AAP.
>>
>> (The writer is secretary of the Consumer Protection Council, Tamil Nadu,
>> and is based in Tiruchirapalli.)
>> *s.pushpavanamconsumerpc@rediffmail.com*
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [IAC#RG] PUBLIC NOTICE: Fake "India Against Corruption" 'volunteers'
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Re: [IAC#RG] PUBLIC NOTICE: Fake "India Against Corruption" 'volunteers'
ROFL .... LOL .... You just said Anna was never part of IAC and IAC doesn't demands or supports any demand of any anti-corruption law.What happened to your earlier story, where Sarabjit said that Anna is now no more part of IAC.And that story were Sarabjit said that Arvind Kejriwal took IAC "brand name" for the movement and was given the "brand name" because the demand was a noble cause and IAC stood for it.Thanks & Regards,Ujjawal Modi+91 8726 22 8882" Think GREEN, Save Earth "
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SAVE TREESOn Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:21 PM, IAC INFO <info.indiaagainstcorruption@gmail.com> wrote:
PUBLIC NOTICE: The rogues ride again.The Public at Large and the media are hereby cautioned against some renegade / expelled persons from "Aam Aadmi Party" who are now attempting to encash the goodwill and good name earned by India Against Corruption ("IAC") over half a century of independent existence and as part of extended Hindustan Republican Army movement.which won freedom for India over nearly a century from 1924.The public is specifically cautioned against supporting or aiding in any way these rootless and frivolous persons who are describing themselves a IAC volunteers, but who are actually discredited Trojan horses and Agents of corrupt political parties who sought refuge in AAP.Merely waving the national tricolour / flag does not make anybody an IAC member. Any civilian waving the tricolor except on certain national holidays cannot be an IAC member or IAC volunteer in terms of our charter and manifesto.The membership of India Against Corruption organisation is strictly limited and by invitation only as it is an apolitical body.It is again clarified that Mr. Anna Hazare is not any kind of member of India Against Corruption, nor was he ever a part of IACIt is also reiterated that IAC does not support or demand Lokpal Bill or Jan Lokpal Bill or any kind of Lokpal Bill, nor does IAC believe in satyagraha, fasting , anshan etc. as methods to achieve our objectives.AshishNational SpokespersonIndia Against Corruption
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Re: [IAC#RG] PUBLIC NOTICE: Fake "India Against Corruption" 'volunteers'
Refer the public notice and your email. IAC notes your sarcastic tone and using words like "story". As an AAP volunteer you should be conscious of your guest status on IAC's list - especially since you don't know the facts.
1 We wrote that Anna was never "member" of IAC. We also wrote that IAC never supported or demanded "Lokpal" Bill. It is incorrect to say that IAC opposes anti-corruption legislation in principle.
2 Sarbajit is on all-India tour for IAC's grassroot campaigns and is addressing many small meetings of former IAC volunteers to see how / if they can be accommodated into IAC's ideology. While touring Sarbajit does not use internet and of course he will reply to you when he is back as he usually does.
3 Regarding Sarbajit's remark about "Anna no more being a part of IAC" it would be better if you gave the specific email or emails with dates where Sarbajit said this. We can say that at the time of transition phase of IAC campaign between Sep-Nov 2012 name/email of Anna was given to Sarbajit's team by "Team Arvind" which show Anna only as an IAC "volunteer". The lists of such former IAC volunteers runs into 4 lakh names or email IDs, out of which about 70,000 were actually approached to be connected online to IAC, and of whom about 25,000 are subscribed to this list and about 8,000 others to another list.
4 On 1st Jan 2013 the IAC movement's Charter drafted by Sarbajit and the core drafting committee was approved by IAC lists and showed the future direction of the IAC. A few days later around 15.Jan.2013 "Team Anna" formally announced in media they would not be part of IAC or use IAC brand name but would carry on their own programs as "BVJA".
5 IAC family has always wished BVJA and Annaji well and has never stood in the way between cooperation between like-minded APOLITICAL groups or their volunteers which are fighting corruption. IAC has also always encouraged volunteers to join with / support Anna or Baba Ramdev or any iconic personality of their choice if they cannot accept IAC's ideology and carry on their struggle under those other iconic banners. Annaji's office at Ralegan Siddhi has also clarified on this email list around 9.Aug.2013 that Annaji's priorities are now different from IAC's for "focus on Janlokpal, Right to Reject, Right to Recall, Farmers problems, Change in Education in System". IAC immediately reciprocated and acknowledged Annaji's contributions and on 3.Sept.2013 the IAC's Core Committee meeting minutes specifically records that Annaji's name will always be preeminent among all IAC's volunteers etc.
6 About IAC brand name. It is true that Arvind for a brief time between Oct-Dec 2010 was informally indicated to use IAC "brand name" for a proposed joint anti-corruption "campaign" using trigger of CWG-2010 scams. However, when it became known that certain elements within "Team Arvind" were actually proxies for the corrupt beneficiaries of CWG scam to promote hollow Lokpal Bills as the solution (instead of more radical methods which IAC advocates) even the said informally conveyed permission was revoked on 9.Dec.2010 when IAC came to know from media that 2 letters were sent in name of IAC to Prime Minister (and CJI). It is another "story" that these letters somehow do not seem to be part of PMO records :-) and were only released by Kiran Bedi and Agnivesh to fool the citizens of India that there was some IAC anti-corruption campaign into CWG scams.
7 The entire facts (not stories) about these past episodes are on the official website of IAC ie. http://indiaagainstcorruption.org.in/ and it is a fact that for some time in Nov. / Dec 2012 Sarbajit may not have had all the information about internal events / dynamics within so-called "Team Anna" and "Team Arvind" which took place between Oct. 2010 and Sept. 2012. Sarbajit himself was only reinducted into IAC campaign in Oct 2012, and on 26 Nov 2012 the unsanctioned / unapproved IAC campaign which was started by Arvind was dissolved / extinguished when Sarbajit's new team took that rogue campaign over formally.
8 The IAC website has a distinguished and highly qualified team of "corruption fighters" as its editorial board. Everyone can thus be assured that the essential facts on the IAC website are backed up by independent sources and are not "stories". If anything is incorrect on website please point out the same to us.
Ashish
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On 1/31/14, CA Ujjawal Modi <ujjawal.modi@gmail.com> wrote:
> ROFL .... LOL .... You just said Anna was never part of IAC and IAC doesn't
> demands or supports any demand of any anti-corruption law.
>
> What happened to your earlier story, where Sarabjit said that Anna is now
> no more part of IAC.
>
> And that story were Sarabjit said that Arvind Kejriwal took IAC "brand
> name" for the movement and was given the "brand name" because the demand
> was a noble cause and IAC stood for it.
>
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Ujjawal Modi
> +91 8726 22 8882
> *" **Think GREEN, Save Earth* *"*
> *P* *Print only if essential.*
> *SAVE TREES*
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:21 PM, IAC INFO <
> info.indiaagainstcorruption@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> *PUBLIC NOTICE: The rogues ride again.*
>>
>> The Public at Large and the media are hereby cautioned against some
>> renegade / expelled persons from "Aam Aadmi Party" who are now attempting
>> to encash the goodwill and good name earned by India Against Corruption
>> ("IAC") over half a century of independent existence and as part of
>> extended Hindustan Republican Army movement.which won freedom for India
>> over nearly a century from 1924.
>>
>> The public is specifically cautioned against supporting or aiding in any
>> way these rootless and frivolous persons who are describing themselves a
>> IAC volunteers, but who are actually discredited Trojan horses and Agents
>> of corrupt political parties who sought refuge in AAP.
>>
>> Merely waving the national tricolour / flag does not make anybody an IAC
>> member. Any civilian waving the tricolor except on certain national
>> holidays cannot be an IAC member or IAC volunteer in terms of our charter
>> and manifesto.
>>
>> The membership of India Against Corruption organisation is strictly
>> limited and by invitation only as it is an apolitical body.
>>
>> It is again clarified that Mr. Anna Hazare is not any kind of member of
>> India Against Corruption, nor was he ever a part of IAC
>>
>> It is also reiterated that IAC does not support or demand Lokpal Bill or
>> Jan Lokpal Bill or any kind of Lokpal Bill, nor does IAC believe in
>> satyagraha, fasting , *anshan* etc. as methods to achieve our objectives.
>>
>> Ashish
>>
>> National Spokesperson
>> *India Against Corruption*
>> www.indiaagainstcorruption.org.in
>> www.indiaagainstcorruption.net.in
>>
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Re: [IAC#RG] PUBLIC NOTICE: Fake "India Against Corruption" 'volunteers'
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Monica
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] PUBLIC NOTICE: Fake "India Against Corruption" 'volunteers'
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PUBLIC NOTICE: The rogues ride again.The Public at Large and the media are hereby cautioned against some renegade / expelled persons from "Aam Aadmi Party" who are now attempting to encash the goodwill and good name earned by India Against Corruption ("IAC") over half a century of independent existence and as part of extended Hindustan Republican Army movement.which won freedom for India over nearly a century from 1924.
The public is specifically cautioned against supporting or aiding in any way these rootless and frivolous persons who are describing themselves a IAC volunteers, but who are actually discredited Trojan horses and Agents of corrupt political parties who sought refuge in AAP.
Merely waving the national tricolour / flag does not make anybody an IAC member. Any civilian waving the tricolor except on certain national holidays cannot be an IAC member or IAC volunteer in terms of our charter and manifesto.
The membership of India Against Corruption organisation is strictly limited and by invitation only as it is an apolitical body.
It is again clarified that Mr. Anna Hazare is not any kind of member of India Against Corruption, nor was he ever a part of IAC
It is also reiterated that IAC does not support or demand Lokpal Bill or Jan Lokpal Bill or any kind of Lokpal Bill, nor does IAC believe in satyagraha, fasting , anshan etc. as methods to achieve our objectives.
Ashish
National SpokespersonIndia Against Corruption
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Friday, January 31, 2014
Re: [IAC#RG] PUBLIC NOTICE: Fake "India Against Corruption" 'volunteers'
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SAVE TREES
PUBLIC NOTICE: The rogues ride again.The Public at Large and the media are hereby cautioned against some renegade / expelled persons from "Aam Aadmi Party" who are now attempting to encash the goodwill and good name earned by India Against Corruption ("IAC") over half a century of independent existence and as part of extended Hindustan Republican Army movement.which won freedom for India over nearly a century from 1924.The public is specifically cautioned against supporting or aiding in any way these rootless and frivolous persons who are describing themselves a IAC volunteers, but who are actually discredited Trojan horses and Agents of corrupt political parties who sought refuge in AAP.Merely waving the national tricolour / flag does not make anybody an IAC member. Any civilian waving the tricolor except on certain national holidays cannot be an IAC member or IAC volunteer in terms of our charter and manifesto.The membership of India Against Corruption organisation is strictly limited and by invitation only as it is an apolitical body.It is again clarified that Mr. Anna Hazare is not any kind of member of India Against Corruption, nor was he ever a part of IACIt is also reiterated that IAC does not support or demand Lokpal Bill or Jan Lokpal Bill or any kind of Lokpal Bill, nor does IAC believe in satyagraha, fasting , anshan etc. as methods to achieve our objectives.AshishNational SpokespersonIndia Against Corruption
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RE: [IAC#RG] PUBLIC NOTICE: Fake "India Against Corruption" 'volunteers'
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Wednesday, January 29, 2014
RE: [IAC#RG] BJP Should Project Modi in LS Elections: Ramdev
Mr.S. Roy
How do you view things after a gap of 9 months and AAP staking claim to dislodge both BJP and Congress( As A or B team of the later).
JKGaur
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:32:47 +0530
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] BJP Should Project Modi in LS Elections: Ramdev
Dear Naishadh
As we agree, a "right wing Hindu nationalist patriotic" ("RHNP) is a mess of knotty contradictions, which requires tremendous self discipline, intellectualism, wise seniors and study to manage.
I cannot agree with you that Mr NaMo has managed to achieve that position. As I observe his "half baked" version of RHNP usually has 2 out of the 4 ingredients at any point of time (and the easiest ones - ie lowest common denominator).
Let us assume for the moment that that BJP actually projects NaMO as their PM candidate, it will quickly isolate them and cause the other votebanks to run to the Congress or a Third front (it may actually also be the tonic to revive the Left)
To get around this the BJP/NaMo combination shall have to make some BOLD moves as follows:-
1) Identify clearly the vote banks (ie. committed groups of non-BJP people who vote together) and their leaders, whose votes / support are crucial
2) Send a very strong signal to these vote banks that they will be incorporated in an NDA Govt as empowered partners.
For instance, NaMo has always denied tickets to India's 13% Muslims, now for the Centre 2014 the BJP should give 25% of its tickets (ie. gross over-representation) to Muslims. A similar thing can be done for Dalits. The karyakartas must be instructed to swallow this for the sake of reaching power and work with double their usual vigour. Only then can the BJP emerge out of this perception that they are a Bania-Brahmin Hindu party. Newer caste dynamics like Jats will have to be arranged. BJP is not at all strong in South and East India, where its Hinduism works against it.
Getting people like Ramdev to arrange this is not working. Ramdev first went to Deoband as part of Congress's similar strategy. Now that he is rebuffed by them and under pressure from Congress, Ramdev is associating with the Shia segments to pull them in for the BJP. I really wonder how the BJP's position on Kashmir will be modified to accommodate such new allies :-)
The Congress is in an easy position, they sit back while the BJP hardliners dig their own grave. All the Congress has to do is dangle money / temptation like an experienced old-whore to the vote banks (who know that the Congress will do anything to let them keep making money so long as Sonia can stay in No. 10 Janpath)
Sarbajit
Dear Sarabjit,Greetings.As usual, you made very savvy observations with level-headed practical assessment of localised politics. However, state needs viable arrangement with stability of Govt. for a reasonable term.Hindu, right-winger, patriotic, nationalist is a knotty combination; which a very large portion of voters, though they may find transient appeal in the concept, cannot truly comprehend.NaMo seems to offer near-about conviction to above stated position. Any other person or parties don't. In the times of coalition, stability is a matter of dynamic arrangement where cheesy values are the first political sacrifice. Morarji Desai Govt. & 1st term of ABV are the examples. Coalition has its own 'mulayam' mechanism exploited by likes of 3Ms political leaders.Its time to focus on the issue - If not NaMo then who else. If its NaMo, what to look for and where to focus.regards,-Joshi NM--
On 1 April 2013 00:15, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr Hegde
Firstly let me take exception to your remarks about (presumably my) "communist minded politics". You are greatly mistaken if you believe I am a communist or any other form of leftist. On the contrary I am an extreme right wing patriotic TRUE Hindu nationalist who puts all the VHP pseudo-Hindu semi-illiiterate brigade in the shade
Secondly, let me clarify that from what I observe Mr. Narendra Modi is some sort of half-baked Hindu who doesn't seem to understand/follow ABC of Hinduism let alone the XYZ.
As I said there is a very simple test for who is a TRUE Hindu and who is not which can be answered in 2 and only 2 words..
a) Are you a Hindu ? Yes or No.
b) What is the name of your God ? _____
Thirdly about the BJP's governance. BJP is equally a corrupt party as the Congress. The series of MINING scams in BJP ruled states is complete and unimpeachable evidence of it. Karnataka, Goa, Gujarat you name it. I hate to drag the fair name of Mr. Bangaru Lakshman into this discussion or even Mr. Pramod Mahajan (who I got removed from the Cabinet for his extreme corruption)
Fourthly, about NaMo personally. Running Gujarat is very different from running rest of India. His style of working may not translate very well outside his own Gujarat and outside die-hard BJP loyalists. In any case lets see assembly results of Karnataka, Rajasthan, Delhi, MP etc. first
Fifthly, the analysis of Gujarat assembly results show that's NaMo's support base is shifting and is also 'spiky". BJP in Gujarat is also packed with criminals
Sarbajit
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Prabhakar Hegde <m.prabhakar.hegde@gmail.com> wrote:
I fully endorse with the opinion of Sri Baba Ramdevs opinion and it is not only his view it is the wishes of all people of this country who feel that Sri Narendra Modi can change the face of this great country. It is not by the congress party who ruled ruin and looted the wealth of this country .I strongly feel that the I A C should come out to support him not because he is a B J P candidate but to give a good governence to our countries administration he is a strong able candidatewho can motivate youths,womens and appeal mass of this country .So please keep aside your petty egoism and communist minded politics for God sake (if you want to do really a good to this nation) Jai Bharath matha Ki
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=794077
BJP Should Project Modi in LS Elections: RamdevJaipur | Mar 31, 2013
BJP should project Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi as its leader in the next Lok Sabha elections and change its priorities if it wants to return to power, Yoga guru Baba Ramdev said today.
He said that Congress can not return to power due to its anti-people policies but BJP can do it provided it changed its priorities.
"There is some possibility and space for BJP if it changes priorities and thinks about projecting Narendra Modi in next Lok Sabha elections," Ramdev said at a press conference here.
"Modi emerged as a robust leader who has become icon of development and courage and has zero tolerance for corruption but the final decision for his projection is to be taken by the BJP and Sangh," he said.
He said the country today is facing a leadership crisis and people are looking at individuals instead of political parties to bring about a positive change in politics.
"We believe that this will take place and the upcoming Lok Sabha election will be decisive in this direction," he said.
He alleged that the government could not take the issues of corruption and black money to a logical conclusion and that Congress has has no chance of forming the next government at the centre as it has betrayed the people.
"Congress has lost confidence among masses. So many scams worth crores of rupees have come to light and people will not vote for the party," he said.
He accused the Congress of misusing the CBI against its political rivals. "What SP Chief Mulayam Singh Yadav said against Congress and CBI is true," he said.
When asked about the possibility of coming together of all like-minded individuals like Anna Hazare, he said building up social and political pressure was necessary to bring a change in system.
"Anna is a good person but he wants to stay away from politics. Building up political pressure along with social pressure is necessary to change the system. Laws are made and amended in Parliament and not by saints or monks and social activist," he said.
Ramdev, who was in the city to hold meetings with his workers, said he was on a mission to play a big role in Lok Sabha election though he himself will not contest election.
"There should be our, at least, 300 members in parliament so that we can play decisive role and I am working in this direction," he said.
Replying to a question about forming a political party, Ramdev said he was not in a position to comment on it but something conclusive will be announced in April or May.
He said that there are some good individuals in parties like Biju Janata Dal, Telugu Desam Party and Janata Dal (United).
There was a space in the nation for the third front, he said, adding that the situation will clear in some time.
He said that he will conduct mass meetings in May in Rajasthan.
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Monday, January 27, 2014
[HumJanenge] Fwd: Appeal to Information Seekers not to produce any proof of citizenship in Odisha
Appeal to Information Seekers not to produce any proof of citizenship or identity at the time of submitting RTI Application
Circular issued by Sri Pradeep Jena, Secretary-cum-Commissioner, I and PR Dept., Govt. of Odisha to all Govt. offices not to ask to Information-seekers for proof of identity following direction of Calcutta High Court.
Dear friends
On dated 21.1. 14, the I and PR Department, Govt. of Odisha has issued a circular RTI-05/2014/IPR 773 under the subject head “ Protection of whistleblowers of RTI- Order dated 20.11.2013 of the Ho’ble High Court, Kolkata in writ petition No. 33290 of 2013” to all departments, State Information Commission, All Collectors, RDCs informing about the order of the said High Court i.e.,
It means the RTI Applicants are not required to give any other personal details except contact address. So the provision of production of proof of identity of citizenship under Odisha RTI Rules, 2005 stands null and void.
So I appeal all Information seekers not to produce their voter ID card or any other documents as proof of identity at the time of submitting RTI Applications to the offices under Govt. of Odisha. It needs to be mentioned that the Central RTI Rules of Govt. of India is highly progressive which does not require any proof of identity to be produced by Information-seekers.
Friends, we have a long way to go for reforming administration of Odisha and its bureaucracy.
Thanking you
Yours sincerely
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Sunday, January 26, 2014
[IAC#RG] ELECTION COMMISSION SHOULD ACT ON PRESIDENT'S CLARION CALL
ELECTION COMMISSION SHOULD ACT ON PRESIDENT'S CLARION CALL
President Pranab Mukherji in his Republic Day address to the nation made the statement of far reaching significance that anarchic methods can not be a substitute for good governance. He made another statement of equal significance against the tendency of political parties to extend freebies to get votes and pointing out that government is not a charity body.
Politicians should take note of the President's above observations which only reflect the views of the large segment of Indian population. With the forthcoming elections in view , it is very important that the election commission should also take note of the President's views with earnestness and immediately ban political parties extending freebies.
Election commission in recent times has not been known to take any strong measures to discipline the political parties and has rarely gone beyond extending some critical remarks , which no political party seem to take seriously. Now, that the President has given a lead, election commission should act to restore the country's faith in its capability and commitment. Election commission is a constitutional body and it has certain responsibility and inherent powers. It should have the character to use such powers for the sake of ensuring probity during the elections.
N.S.Venkataraman