Hi,
Where is the judgement copy as stated by Sarabjit? Pls. send across
the same (PDF or MS Word format).
CHEERS!
Rakesh
On 11/16/13, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Manoj,
> Thanks for judgment copy. Will circulate.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Manoj Kamra <manojkamra@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Sir,
>>
>> This decision will be helpful. No need of Preliminary enquiry for
>> cognizable offence or result of P.E.in a week .
>>
>> CONCLUSION OF DECISION
>> 111) In view of the aforesaid discussion, we hold:
>> (i) Registration of FIR is mandatory under Section 154 of the Code, if
>> the
>> information discloses commission of a cognizable offence and no
>> preliminary
>> inquiry is permissible in such a situation.
>> (ii) If the information received does not disclose a cognizable offence
>> but indicates the necessity for an inquiry, a preliminary inquiry may be
>> conducted only to ascertain whether cognizable offence is disclosed or
>> not.
>> (iii) If the inquiry discloses the commission of a cognizable offence,
>> the
>> FIR must be registered. In cases where preliminary inquiry ends in
>> closing
>> the complaint, a copy of the entry of such closure must be supplied to
>> the
>> first informant forthwith and not
>> later than one week. It must disclose reasons in brief for closing the
>> complaint and not proceeding further.
>> (iv) The police officer cannot avoid his duty of registering offence if
>> cognizable offence is disclosed.Action must be taken against erring
>> officers who do not register the FIR if information received by him
>> discloses a cognizable offence.
>> (v) The scope of preliminary inquiry is not to verify the veracity or
>> otherwise of the information received but only to ascertain whether the
>> information reveals any cognizable offence.
>> (vi) As to what type and in which cases preliminary inquiry is to be
>> conducted will depend on the facts
>> and circumstances of each case. The category of cases in which
>> preliminary
>> inquiry may be made are
>> as under:
>> (a)Matrimonial disputes/ family disputes
>> (b)Commercial offences
>> (c) Medical negligence cases
>> (d)Corruption cases
>> (e) Cases where there is abnormal delay/laches in initiating criminal
>> prosecution, for example, over 3 months delay in reporting the matter
>> without satisfactorily explaining the reasons for delay.The aforesaid are
>> only illustrations and not exhaustive of all conditions which may warrant
>> preliminary inquiry.
>> (vii) While ensuring and protecting the rights of the accused and the
>> complainant, a preliminary inquiry should be made time bound and in any
>> case it should not exceed 7 days. The fact of such delay and the causes
>> of
>> it must be reflected in the General Diary entry.
>> (viii) Since the General Diary/Station Diary/Daily Diary is the record of
>> all information received in a police
>> station, we direct that all information relating to cognizable offences,
>> whether resulting in registration of FIR or leading to an inquiry, must
>> be
>> mandatorily and meticulously reflected in the said Diary and the decision
>> to conduct a preliminary inquiry must also be reflected, as mentioned
>> above
>>
>> PLEASE FORWARD IT.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> with regards+-
>> Manoj K.Kamra
>> 7B37,JNV Nagar,
>> Bikaner-334003
>> Mob-9414139029
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Saturday, November 16, 2013
Re: [IAC#RG] Is Mizoram a stepchild of Bharat Mata ?
Dear Sarbajitji,
Hmmmm.... thanks for enunciating the in-betweens.
As thinking citizens sharing the umbrella of the nation state called a modern India, perhaps we also must be held responsible for what goes wrong in the country but not for what our ancestors and forerunners did wrong.
As a tribal from the far north-eastern state of Arunachal Pradesh (which again are not words from any of the tribes here ), I have no issue about history so long as we can, collectively, responsibly share the burden of taking the nation ahead. Without the small being subsumed. Without the diversity being homogenised. Without the potentials being undermined. Without the positives being negated.
Regards.
Jarjum Ete
Hmmmm.... thanks for enunciating the in-betweens.
As thinking citizens sharing the umbrella of the nation state called a modern India, perhaps we also must be held responsible for what goes wrong in the country but not for what our ancestors and forerunners did wrong.
As a tribal from the far north-eastern state of Arunachal Pradesh (which again are not words from any of the tribes here ), I have no issue about history so long as we can, collectively, responsibly share the burden of taking the nation ahead. Without the small being subsumed. Without the diversity being homogenised. Without the potentials being undermined. Without the positives being negated.
Regards.
Jarjum Ete
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Kumar Arun <kumar2786@hotmail.com> wrote:
Just remember to vote to install a government free from Congress party of Nehru-Indira-Rajiv-Sonia-Rahul-Priyanka-Robert who have been selling India and it's priceless resources.KATo: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net; jarjum@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Is Mizoram a stepchild of Bharat Mata ?I apprecate concern for Mizoram expressed by Mayank. All facts shared by him are truen that Mizoram has been ignored by publicity stalwarts/political analysts.
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Is Mizoram a stepchild of Bharat Mata ?
Dear Mayank Pal,
Thanks much for flagging it.
Regards,
Jarjum Ete
Arunachal Pradesh.
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, mayank pal <mayankpanthor@gmail.com <mailto:mayankpanthor@gmail.com> > wrote:
Does anyone know who is Chief Minister of Mizoram ? The common answer is 'NO' but everyone knows who is ruling Delhi, M.P., Rajasthan and Chattisgarh.
All these five states are going into poll next month but Mizoram is completely out of the sight of electronic media. No talk shows are being arranged in Mizoram no reporter is going there to ask public opinion. In fact no opinion poll was conducted for Mizoram, though it is banned by EC now.
Is not Mizoram being treated as stepchild ? I believe 'Yes it is'. There might be so many reasons for why North East is always taken away from main stream media. Might be a possibility is that it does not give enough revenue but it can not be a sole cause.
But whatever the reason be, it is an integral part of India and Indians from other regions do have right to know about it.
This kind of behavior is really unexpected and it should not be allowed anymore.
--
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Re: [IAC#RG] Is Mizoram a stepchild of Bharat Mata ?
Dear Vaghela,
Thank for your concern. You have rightly highlighted the issues whcih always played in the mind of the people residing in this region. If there had been a death of a Dog in 10 Janpath there would be hundreds of OB van with its crew asking silly questions, there will be expert mongers who can expalin the cause of death of the DOG, some of them would defineitly say the bread the colour and other relevant question and it will be aired 24X7. This mentality of the national politicians being towed by the national media has engendered the hatred by the local people against the Mainland people and they could not accept that INDIA is an integarted part of Mizoram, Manipur & Nagaland
etc.
Thanking you
Sincerely
Ashish Dey
Lumding. Assam
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Is Mizoram a stepchild of Bharat Mata ?
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Is Mizoram a stepchild of Bharat Mata ?
India at Night On Regular Day and on Diwali Day - Somewhere Bright - Somewhere Dark.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/right-to-information-act-2005/yLm9S1LPjG4There is no inclusive Development.
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, mayank pal <mayankpanthor@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone know who is Chief Minister of Mizoram ? The common answer is 'NO' but everyone knows who is ruling Delhi, M.P., Rajasthan and Chattisgarh.All these five states are going into poll next month but Mizoram is completely out of the sight of electronic media. No talk shows are being arranged in Mizoram no reporter is going there to ask public opinion. In fact no opinion poll was conducted for Mizoram, though it is banned by EC now.Is not Mizoram being treated as stepchild ? I believe 'Yes it is'. There might be so many reasons for why North East is always taken away from main stream media. Might be a possibility is that it does not give enough revenue but it can not be a sole cause.But whatever the reason be, it is an integral part of India and Indians from other regions do have right to know about it.This kind of behavior is really unexpected and it should not be allowed anymore.--
Mayank
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Re: [IAC#RG] A vote for AAP is a vote for Congress
Dear Mr Roy
You have the habit of smelling rat in everything. That is why you are
branding AAP as B team of congress. What in your opinion should be
party's motto that wants corruption to be rooted out from India to the
barest min. Please be specific. Anyone can write mails like you
criticizing everything that is either old or new or do you want
Gandhiji to come back as the PM
There are limits to practicality but absurdity has no limit
Vijoy Ambasta
On 11/16/13, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear IAC subscribers (especially those in Delhi)
>
> Here are some statements, please discuss them
>
> 1) The vast majority of Delhi-ites are fed up with Congress and Congress
> corruption.
>
> 2) In the ordinary course most of these anti-Congress votes would have gone
> to the BJP (another corrupt party) enabling BJP to form a Govt .
>
> 3) To counter this the Congress propped up a gang of NGO rascals to
> dilute/channel the powerful people's angst after the mega loot of
> CommonWealth Games. It is no coincidence that this same gang of foreign
> financed anti-national NGO rogues also "represent" the "people" in every
> public forum and even in the Supreme Court in all the scam trials (2G,3G,
> Coalgate etc) and to "cleanse" the judiciary.
>
> 4) That the Congress had such a long-term planning to make India Against
> Corruption into a political party that on 16.09.2011 they got the Election
> Commission to change the allotment of Symbols Reservation Order 1968 to
> allow new unregistered parties to have a common election symbol - para 10B.
> (Incidentally AAP will lose the "broom" after this election)
>
> 5) That the true masters behind AAP are the same foreign secret societies
> who set up and financed the Congress as well as control parts of the BJP
> (such as Mr. Narendra Modi).
>
> 6) That it is the ancient practice spanning centuries of these foreign
> societies to identify corruptable, unpatriotic Indians and place them in
> positions of power so that foreigners can rule from behind the scene.
>
> 7) All the candidates of Aam Aadmi Party (being openly foreign financed)
> are liable to be jailed for 5 years under s.35 of FCRA in addition to other
> laws. The MHA enquiry into AAP's foreign financing however, will be
> manipulated to get them to function as proxies for Congress. Is it a
> coincidence that Mr. Prashant Bhushan, founder AAP, is not standing as a
> candidate for elections ?
>
> *To be continued.*
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 3:33 PM, rim.chennai <rim.chennai@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It is our humble view that Mr Kejriwal had joined hands with Anna Hazare
>> to become popular only with elections in mind. He has achieved his goal
>> and
>> we are sure he will be just another corrupt politician in due course of
>> time.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 8/11/13
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Pandey,
>>>
>>> The litmus test for AAP will be the forthcoming elections in Delhi.
>>> So far neither of the main 2 main parties has given any weight to the
>>> APP.
>>> From the earlier posts of the National convenor Sh. S. Roy about AAP and
>>> AK,you know where their sympathies lies. Certainly not with any of the
>>> three main contending parties.
>>> 2. Saying that AAM ADMI PARTY has been formed to fight for rights of
>>> Common people is not going to be enough.
>>> The Voters have to convinced. Congree Party was also fighting for the
>>> rights of Common men till Gandhi was alive.
>>>
>>
>> John Lopez
>> President & Chief Executive
>> *Right to Information Movement*,
>> 16, Kubera Munusamy Street, Chennai 600 061
>> Phone: +91 94444 84 517 || +91 90 4242 7390
>>
>>
>
You have the habit of smelling rat in everything. That is why you are
branding AAP as B team of congress. What in your opinion should be
party's motto that wants corruption to be rooted out from India to the
barest min. Please be specific. Anyone can write mails like you
criticizing everything that is either old or new or do you want
Gandhiji to come back as the PM
There are limits to practicality but absurdity has no limit
Vijoy Ambasta
On 11/16/13, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear IAC subscribers (especially those in Delhi)
>
> Here are some statements, please discuss them
>
> 1) The vast majority of Delhi-ites are fed up with Congress and Congress
> corruption.
>
> 2) In the ordinary course most of these anti-Congress votes would have gone
> to the BJP (another corrupt party) enabling BJP to form a Govt .
>
> 3) To counter this the Congress propped up a gang of NGO rascals to
> dilute/channel the powerful people's angst after the mega loot of
> CommonWealth Games. It is no coincidence that this same gang of foreign
> financed anti-national NGO rogues also "represent" the "people" in every
> public forum and even in the Supreme Court in all the scam trials (2G,3G,
> Coalgate etc) and to "cleanse" the judiciary.
>
> 4) That the Congress had such a long-term planning to make India Against
> Corruption into a political party that on 16.09.2011 they got the Election
> Commission to change the allotment of Symbols Reservation Order 1968 to
> allow new unregistered parties to have a common election symbol - para 10B.
> (Incidentally AAP will lose the "broom" after this election)
>
> 5) That the true masters behind AAP are the same foreign secret societies
> who set up and financed the Congress as well as control parts of the BJP
> (such as Mr. Narendra Modi).
>
> 6) That it is the ancient practice spanning centuries of these foreign
> societies to identify corruptable, unpatriotic Indians and place them in
> positions of power so that foreigners can rule from behind the scene.
>
> 7) All the candidates of Aam Aadmi Party (being openly foreign financed)
> are liable to be jailed for 5 years under s.35 of FCRA in addition to other
> laws. The MHA enquiry into AAP's foreign financing however, will be
> manipulated to get them to function as proxies for Congress. Is it a
> coincidence that Mr. Prashant Bhushan, founder AAP, is not standing as a
> candidate for elections ?
>
> *To be continued.*
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 3:33 PM, rim.chennai <rim.chennai@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It is our humble view that Mr Kejriwal had joined hands with Anna Hazare
>> to become popular only with elections in mind. He has achieved his goal
>> and
>> we are sure he will be just another corrupt politician in due course of
>> time.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 8/11/13
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Pandey,
>>>
>>> The litmus test for AAP will be the forthcoming elections in Delhi.
>>> So far neither of the main 2 main parties has given any weight to the
>>> APP.
>>> From the earlier posts of the National convenor Sh. S. Roy about AAP and
>>> AK,you know where their sympathies lies. Certainly not with any of the
>>> three main contending parties.
>>> 2. Saying that AAM ADMI PARTY has been formed to fight for rights of
>>> Common people is not going to be enough.
>>> The Voters have to convinced. Congree Party was also fighting for the
>>> rights of Common men till Gandhi was alive.
>>>
>>
>> John Lopez
>> President & Chief Executive
>> *Right to Information Movement*,
>> 16, Kubera Munusamy Street, Chennai 600 061
>> Phone: +91 94444 84 517 || +91 90 4242 7390
>>
>>
>
Re: [IAC#RG] Is Mizoram a stepchild of Bharat Mata ?
India at Night On Regular Day and on Diwali Day - Somewhere Bright - Somewhere Dark.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/right-to-information-act-2005/yLm9S1LPjG4There is no inclusive Development.
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, mayank pal <mayankpanthor@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone know who is Chief Minister of Mizoram ? The common answer is 'NO' but everyone knows who is ruling Delhi, M.P., Rajasthan and Chattisgarh.All these five states are going into poll next month but Mizoram is completely out of the sight of electronic media. No talk shows are being arranged in Mizoram no reporter is going there to ask public opinion. In fact no opinion poll was conducted for Mizoram, though it is banned by EC now.Is not Mizoram being treated as stepchild ? I believe 'Yes it is'. There might be so many reasons for why North East is always taken away from main stream media. Might be a possibility is that it does not give enough revenue but it can not be a sole cause.But whatever the reason be, it is an integral part of India and Indians from other regions do have right to know about it.This kind of behavior is really unexpected and it should not be allowed anymore.--
Mayank
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Re: [IAC#RG] Is Mizoram a stepchild of Bharat Mata ?
Dear Ms. Ete
There are actually 2 issues here in Mr. Mayank Pal's post which are
being subtly superimposed to confuse and trap the unwary.
1) The disinterest of "India" in the N-E States and vice-versa
2) The issue of whether the N-E states (connected only by the thinnest
of chicken necks) are children of some fiction known as "Bharat Mata"
(An Anglo-Saxon confection to integrate native tribals and soldiers
into the armies of the East India Co.and propagated later by Bengali
writers like Bankim with his Vande Mataram and Anand Math). Let me be
brutally frank --> Bharat Mata originated as a euphemism for Empress
Victoria and the Indian Army's war cry "Bharat Mata ki Jai" was for
the Queen Empress and nobody else
Sarbajit
On 11/16/13, jarjum ete <jarjum@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mayank Pal,
>
> Thanks much for flagging it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jarjum Ete
> Arunachal Pradesh.
There are actually 2 issues here in Mr. Mayank Pal's post which are
being subtly superimposed to confuse and trap the unwary.
1) The disinterest of "India" in the N-E States and vice-versa
2) The issue of whether the N-E states (connected only by the thinnest
of chicken necks) are children of some fiction known as "Bharat Mata"
(An Anglo-Saxon confection to integrate native tribals and soldiers
into the armies of the East India Co.and propagated later by Bengali
writers like Bankim with his Vande Mataram and Anand Math). Let me be
brutally frank --> Bharat Mata originated as a euphemism for Empress
Victoria and the Indian Army's war cry "Bharat Mata ki Jai" was for
the Queen Empress and nobody else
Sarbajit
On 11/16/13, jarjum ete <jarjum@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mayank Pal,
>
> Thanks much for flagging it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jarjum Ete
> Arunachal Pradesh.
Re:[IAC#RG]
Respected Admiral Das Sahib,
Thank you for your feedback. You have correctly echoed my feeling. If you happen to read my first 2 mails, I have mentioned the same thing. Formulate a new Libi borrowing from all Indian Languages acceptable to all and make it a common link so that all Indians can communite with each other without any difficulty. This will go a long way in uniting all Indians without fighting on the language issue.
With Best Regards,
A.S.KALYANAM
A.S.KALYANAM
On Saturday, 16 November 2013 7:11 PM, admiral das <admiraldas@hotmail.com> wrote:
Sir,
Are you in Delhi / NCR ?
Why are you not member of Navy Foundation ?
You were our Training Cdr on INS TIR, and as your cadets (Jul- Dec 1960)
onboard, we of 16th Course, have fond memories of the
'dreaded / bearded Cdr Singhal'.
Regards
Rear Admiral 'Chotu' SK Das
President Navy Foundation Delhi Charter
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 18:32:31 +0530
From: tirronanni@gmail.com
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Subject: Re:[IAC#RG]
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Are you in Delhi / NCR ?
Why are you not member of Navy Foundation ?
You were our Training Cdr on INS TIR, and as your cadets (Jul- Dec 1960)
onboard, we of 16th Course, have fond memories of the
'dreaded / bearded Cdr Singhal'.
Regards
Rear Admiral 'Chotu' SK Das
President Navy Foundation Delhi Charter
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 18:32:31 +0530
From: tirronanni@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re:[IAC#RG]
From Commander T.N. Singhal (Retd),
I do not follow what the argument is all about. Some people have
suggested development of a new language, thereby making EVERY
Indian illiterate. I am not a linguist but my suggestion is that language
problem will cease to exist if we adopt a COMMON SCRIPT, most
popular being Devanagri script. From whatever little I know (I am open to
correction) the PHONETICS are the same not only in Indian languages
but in very many languages in South East Asia. Lack of understanding
arises because a sound is represented by different symbols in all the
languages - make same symbol for a particular sound and the
language problem will disappear.
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:53 AM, tadepalli triambakakishore <ltcolttkishore@gmail.com> wrote:
Ms ChhabilAgarwal,You are on a wrong presumption that Mr Kalyanam want to rundown Hindi .All Indians can communicate in all or a few official languages . Your quoting of facts in no way can diminish the utility and greatness of other National Tongues. Anthropologists universally are keen to keep even dying dialects from extinction whereas you are harping on some imagined and non existent slight to Hindi by Mr Kalyanam ( & so called supporters).No harm in communicating with rest of ( ie 100-41=59%) in the mode they understand. I being a Veteran Warrior also had the privilege of traveling length and breadth of this country and can never rundown others mother tongue.If an attitude of accommodating various Indian languages is absent it's a retrograde & insensitive step.If you can, do try to be aware that there is world beyond Hindi. Can you try to help non -Hindi people understand the profound thought of Mr GK.Veteran TTK
On Thursday, November 14, 2013, CHHABIL AGGARWAL wrote:Dear Kalyanam and supporters,I think you people are in dream that Tamil will become national language of India. Please come out from that and let me tell you some facts about Hindi language.
Rank Language 2001 census[2] 1991 census[3] Encarta 2007 estimate[4] (total population 1,028,610,328 ) (total population 838,583,988) (worldwide speakers) Speakers Percentage Speakers Percentage Speakers 1 Hindi[5] 422,048,642 41.03% 329,518,087 39.29% 366 M 2 83,369,769 8.11% 69,595,738 8.30% 207 M 3 74,002,856 7.19% 66,017,615 7.87% 69.7 M 4 71,936,894 6.99% 62,481,681 7.45% 68.0 M 5 60,793,814 5.91% 53,006,368 6.32% 66.0 M 6 51,536,111 5.01% 43,406,932 5.18% 60.3 M 7 46,091,617 4.48% 40,673,814 4.85% 46.1 M 8 37,924,011 3.69% 32,753,676 3.91% 35.3 M 9 33,066,392 3.21% 30,377,176 3.62% 35.7 M 10 33,017,446 3.21% 28,061,313 3.35% 32.3 M 11 29,102,477 2.83% 23,378,744 2.79% 57.1 M More than 41% people are Hindi speaking Indians and you want them to change to Tamil or new Language. I think you are the person who supports corrupt politician's to grow by not adopting a common language in overall country. Politicians created this propaganda that no body from other state should come and divide their votes.Request to stop behaving like a frog in a pond and please come out from this dream and see the other part of india . I Visited almost all the places you mentioned and except Chennai never faced any problem in interacting with people in Hindi.Ok let me ask you one question if you people are not ready to accept 40% speaking language as common language then how can you expect 40% people will accept that language which is known to only 5 % people?RegardsChhabilMy Dear Chhabil Aggarwal,Thank you for your response. You said that I should be ashamed for not knowing Hindi. OK. You said Hindi is a National Language. Who declared Hindi as a National Language? A handul of Hindi Parliamentarians hailing from North India enjoying all comforts(luxurious life at the cost of TGax Payers Money) at Delhi declared Hindi as a National Language. My humble request to you is to kindly visit down Vindhyas places like Bangalolre, Chennai, Cochin, Trivandrum, or East of India like Kolkatta without a Guide to explain you in Hindi. After visiting these places without a Hindi translating Guide, please tell me your experience. Then we will decide who is ashamed.You may be a Native of UP or Haryana. Even in North India, you please visit rural villages in Assam, Manipur, Nagaland, Bihar, West Bengal, Odissa, Gujarath, Maharastra, and speak to them in Hindi. Please tell me your experience whether they understand Hindi and speak to you in Hindi.My humble request to you is to understand the reality in the country and if you still feel that I should feel ashamed for not knowing Hindi, I am taking it on my strides.I had interacted with so many Hindi Speaking People and learned few Hindi words but, I cannot make a good sentence. Non-Hindi speaking people who go to North for jobs, military service, business pick up Hindi and they become very proficient in Hindi. So, the opportunities, circumatances and environment make a person to learn other languages. Thus, so many Non-Hindi speaking people learned Hindi.With Best Regards,
A.S.KALYANAM
On Tuesday, 5 November 2013 7:24 PM, CHHABIL AGGARWAL <chhabil_aggarwal@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Kalyanam,
I think you should feel ashamed if you don't know hindi. Hindi is a national language since 1965 and till now you could not able to accept this fact then how can you claim that a new language will be accepted.
So please don't show double standards and request you to accept this fact that hindi is a national language of india.
Regards
Chhabil
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Dear All,
The Message is in Hindi. The Sender should know that still there are atleast 50% of Indians cann't read and write Hindi. Some Indians whose Mother tounge is not Hindi, may speak Hindi but cannot read and write.
After Independence, lot of efforts had been made to Hindi as a Official lanugauge. But, there are lot of objections from so many quarters, not only from Tamil Nadu and even from other States of India. Like Constitution of India, which is borrowed from various Constitutions, it is high time, all the major Indian Languages like, Hindi, Bihari, Kashmiri, Gujarathi, Marathi, Odisa, Telegu, Kannada, Tamil, Malayalam, Bengali, Assamee,Panjabi, Samskrit (Urdu also you include, even though, it is not an Indian language) Konkini, Tulu, (There may be more more Indian languages, but there are the major speaking languages) Pick up (borrow) the Alphabets from each language and and script a new Indian common language. Appoint a Committee of Expert in the various Indian Languages and entrust them to formulte a entirely a new language a combination of all Indian languages so that it will be acceptable to all Indians so that there will be a common language which should be introduced in all Schools at Pre KG itself. so that at one point of time, may be after another 50 years, there will be a common language through out India.
Once, we have a Common language in India, there will be little partisan feelings,(all the linquistic bountaries will go) which will help a lot for India's development. Even though, India spends lot of money for developments, it is not reaching the common man. The Nature has gifted so many natural resources for man's existence like Rivers, Mountain, Forest, Lands, Minerals. Even though, we claim to be more forward thinking,(unorthodox) dynamic, we are not properly utilising the Natures Bounty.. Other countries elsewhere in the world, are fully utilising the Nature's Bounty. But, we are mailes aware from the developments comparing the other countries in the world, basically because of Linguist barrier which mar all developmental activities.
INDIA LACKS A GOOD LEADERSHIP EVENTHOUGH, THERE ARE GOOD NUMBER OF EDUCATIONIST, PROFESSIONALS, ENTREPRENUERS, PATRIOTIC. THERE ARE VERY GOOD RIGHT THINKING LEADERS. ENLIGHTENEND CITIZENS SHOULD IDENTIFY THEM AND BRING THEM TO THE FORE, AND HANDOVER THE MANTLE FOR INDIA'S DEVELOPMENT.
With Best Regards,
A.S.KALYANAM
On Monday, 4 November 2013 8:04 AM, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
Excellent work.please continue doing this good work for the people of India.
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Dear Sri Suraj and My Other Friends in Indiaresists,
Thank you for your feedback. I am repeatedly telling through this channel, that I am and most of my friends are not against Hindi. My Brother in Law joined the British controlled Indian Army may be around 1940 as a Communication Staff. When the Indian Army was advancing to fight with the Nazi Forces somehwere in Northern Province in the present day Pakisthan or Afganisthan, he was caught as POW and taken to Italian prison by walk folding/closing his eyes for nearly a month. After Independence, he was released in London and returned to India. On reaching India, he again joined Indian Army in Ordinance School (Branch) posted in different places like Avadi (Chennai), Udhampur (Kashmir), Kanpur, Delhi, Jabalpur, Hyderabad and retired as a Hon. Captain or Lt. ( I am not very sure about his last grade) after serving more than 25 years. Eventhough he is from Tamilnadu because of Service in Army, he became very proficient in Hindi and there are so many people like this in Tamilnadu and elsewhere in the country. My Sister picked up Hindi by conversing with the Hindi people and my Wife, who lived in North till her VIII Std., learnt Hindi in Schools, speak very good Hindi. Why I say, all these, to bring home the point, that necessity, opportunity, compulsions and environment make the non-Hindi speaking people to become very proficient in Hindi. Whereas I had no such oppootunity. So, I could not learn Hindi leave alone that there is no Hindi as a Subject in Tamil Nadu Schools.
I reiterate onceagain, I am not against Hindi but at the same time, please whose Mother is Tongue is Hindi should also respect other languages and try to learn it in the interest of unity of the country.
With Best Regards,
A.S.KALYANAM
A.S.KALYANAM
On Saturday, 16 November 2013 7:18 PM, Suraj Pandey <surajkp1986@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear sarbajit sir
Moving to other places for job or any other reason is basic to improve and enhance yourself , it could be education or job . Event backward state move to metro then punjabis too move to canada , keralaian to dubai , tamilan and telugus to US .
Pls don't show this narrow thinking .
Dear kalyan sir
I am from army background and move from jammu to keral , from manipur to rajhasthan . Pls don't say people don't know hindi , only deap south don't except as their local politics don't allow to learn and play politics .
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Suraj Pandey
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Moving to other places for job or any other reason is basic to improve and enhance yourself , it could be education or job . Event backward state move to metro then punjabis too move to canada , keralaian to dubai , tamilan and telugus to US .
Pls don't show this narrow thinking .
Dear kalyan sir
I am from army background and move from jammu to keral , from manipur to rajhasthan . Pls don't say people don't know hindi , only deap south don't except as their local politics don't allow to learn and play politics .
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Suraj Pandey
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