Saturday, February 22, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] vote for any party based on Prime Ministerial candidate

A Prime Minister has formidable powers,including detailed knowledge of
the flaws of those who would oppose him.Manmohan Singh refused to use
such powers,preferring to be ruled by the diktat from Sonia Gandhi.
His hesitancy almost certainly stems from
the lack of any deep convictions,except of course for holding on to
his job in as painless a manner as possible i.e. by pandering to
Sonia's wishes

The Prime Ministership is as big or as small as the person occupying that chair

Madhav


On 2/20/14, Sukla Sen <sukla.sen@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Prime Minister is chosen/elected by the parliamentary party of the
> party chosen as the ruling party, based on seats won in the Lok Sabha
> (only) - either all by itself or in alliance with other parties, by the
> President.
> The Prime Minister has to demonstrate that s/he enjoys the confidence of
> the Lok Sabha (only) - i.e. in a confidence/no-confidence vote (in the Lok
> Sabha), or a vote on a finance bill, must get the majority of the votes
> cast.
> The Rajya Sabha does not play any role in deciding the Prime Minister.
> Even a non-MP can become the PM, but within six months has got to be
> elected to either the LS or the RS.
>
> A non-citizen is not eligible to become a voter or an MP or the PM.
>
> In pursuance of the latest amendment in this regard, even a non-resident of
> a particular state can become a Rajya Sabha member from that state, if
> otherwise eligible.
>
> Sukla
>
>
> On 18 February 2014 18:00, Rakshpal Abrol
> <rakshpal.abrol@yahoo.co.in>wrote:
>
>>
>> Please read very carefully the Constitution of India amended more than
>> 112 times.
>> The Prime Minister is elected by the electoral college consisting of
>> elected representatives of both the houses of People and not based on the
>> party basis.
>> The person even not a citizen of India can be chosen as Prime Minster.
>> Even if his/her parents do not belong to Indian Community.His/her name is
>> listed in the electroll prepared by the Election Commission. People do
>> not
>> have Constitutional Right to challenge the data provided inthe Electroll
>> roles prepared under the supervision of Chief Election Commission under
>> Article 324.
>> Pandit Jawahar Lal Nehru was not the citizen of India declared under
>> Article 84 (a) of the Constitution, so Smt. Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi.
>> Dr. Man Mohan Singh is another glaring example. He is a Prime Minister of
>> India for now Ten years. He was not domiciled at Assam after its
>> formation
>> as State.
>> He or his family members do not belong to Schedule Tribes of North
>> Eastern
>> area.
>> People Representation Act,1951 do not have sanction to over throw the
>> Constitution as established by law. The Rules are framed to carry out the
>> intrepretation of law and Statute. The Constitution is supreme claimed by
>> the highest Judicial Authority. But is it correctly administer by any one
>> for the last 66 years.
>> The hindi translation was printed after 1988. It was not accepted in
>> Hindi
>> language and is not respected in Hindi Devnagari at any Court of law
>> established.
>> Prime Minister can throw the President ,if he/she do not follow his
>> advice.
>> Former President of India had given his assent on fax paper to impose
>> President Rule in Bihar.
>>
>>
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Rakshpal Abrol
>> Consumer Activist
>> 9820203154
>> rakshpal.abrol@yahoo.co.in
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Vishwanath Mada <vishmada@hotmail.com>
>> *To:* "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 16 February 2014 6:20 PM
>> *Subject:* RE: [IAC#RG] vote for any party based on Prime Ministerial
>> candidate
>>
>> Hi
>> There may be thousands in different fields. We should look for holistic
>> individual who can hold the nation together of Million diversity of 1.3
>> billion people and not ignoring majority, minority or any other sectarian
>> groups for whatever reason the individual may have. It must be INDIA
>> FIRST
>> and INDIA TILL THE LAST. We should cultivate the habit of important
>> national interest should have a NATIONAL DEBATE at EVERY DISTRICT LEVEL
>> not
>> in a TV channel only. We should take cull cross section opinion before
>> the
>> bill is prepared and goes to parliament.
>>
>> Only a responsible national party with reach all over should field
>> candidates, if not it will be a LARGE POT of 500 plus FORCES PULLING THE
>> PARLIAMENT in to different directions for which we must guard against.
>>
>> A WEAK PM and his PARTY will do exactly what has happened to India for
>> the
>> last 2 terms of parliament. Under these circumstances greed plays a major
>> factor to hold power as he and the party becomes helpless and will over
>> look all the misdeeds of their supporters. PM we will call WEAK, who made
>> him weak, we have made him weak by no providing the required numbers for
>> him to take the required decisions. We the citizens are equally
>> responsible.
>>
>> We had put up a CANDIDATE in the year 2006 to corporation election and we
>> won. It was a good experiment but according to most of the supporters
>> felt,
>> we failed to get the desired result of implementation of policy
>> matters,in
>> spite of an honest candidate. Candidate did not have of the support of
>> the
>> required numbers at the corporation meetings.
>>
>> The party with a vision must be supported and not the only candidate.
>> Candidates with doubtful background manupulate by puting up their spouse
>> or
>> children as candidates and control the candidate which we should resist
>> by
>> not electing such candidates, or parties. Independents and small regional
>> parties can only harm the democracy than do any good. With huge money
>> bags
>> of some parties will be able to do unimaginable harm as it happened for
>> the
>> last two terms of parliament.
>>
>> Manohar Prikar govt. in Goa survived because he has reasonable majority
>> if
>> not he would have been sitting in opposition by now as he himself claimed
>> in one of the meetings recently in Mumbai.
>>
>> Bajpai govt. had large number of parties supporting and exerting undue
>> pressure from all sides. It becomes difficult for a govt. to take any
>> bold,
>> necessary, desired decisions FOR AND THE NATIONAL interest you need to
>> take AND you must take. In most difficult times these individuals and
>> parties ask for different benefits or a package for the themselves
>> leaving
>> the national interest to ransom.
>>
>> Regads
>> Vishwanath Mada
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:42:14 +0530
>> From: nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com
>> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
>> Subject: [IAC#RG] vote for any party based on Prime Ministerial candidate
>>
>>
>> *To*
>>
>> *India Against Corruption*
>>
>>
>> *Vote for the party based on the*
>> * Prime Ministerial candidate in the parliamentary
>> polls.*
>>
>> *There are certainly much better persons in India today than Kejriwals,
>> Raj Thackerays, Venugopals (of TDP). There are honest and productive
>> workers consisting of scientists, engineers , economists and NGOs , who
>> really contribute to the national growth in variety of ways.
>> Unfortunately, our media do not take note of them but only focus on
>> those
>> indulging in antics, gimmicks and rowdy behaviour in parliament,
>> assemblies and in public life.*
>> *In view of such attitude of media , an impression prevails that India
>> consist only of such elements, which is affecting the morale of the
>> entire population and image of the country in the world.*
>> *Inspite of the corrupt politicians and bureaucracy, still a lot of
>> good
>> work is going on in the country and many Indians are increasingly being
>> recognised internationally for their achievements , though Indian media
>> may
>> ignore them. This is a sad state of affairs. *
>> *Certainly, a capable Prime Minister can bring about a healthy climate
>> of growth and progress and bring respect to the country and government,
>> where quality Indians would be recognised and given encouragement and
>> appropriate positions . When such healthy and progressive climate is
>> built, it would inevitably lead to a situation where discredited persons
>> cannot hold the country to ransom as at present.*
>> *Obviously, the country needs honest , strong and well motivated Prime
>> Minister who is ultimately responsible for all happenings in India in
>> one
>> way or the other. *
>> *During the forthcoming parliamentary polls ,the electorate should be
>> given a clear choice as to who would be the next Prime Minister by the
>> political outfits like Congress party and third front also *
>> *People should really be given an opportunity to vote for any party,
>> based on the person projected as Prime Minister by the party.*
>> *India cannot afford government leadership of the present standards
>> anymore, which mean that the people would have a choice about the
>> person becoming the Prime Minister and political coterie would not
>> decide
>> this. *
>>
>> *N.S.Venkataraman*
>> *Nandini Voice For The Deprived*
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RE: [IAC#RG] Regarding Seminar on Election Reform

Hello Friends,

Congratulations to Maulik Bharat for organising Seminar on Electoral Reforms.

I can not attend the Seminar but have the following suggestions:

1)  Please discuss bogus Representation of People Act. It is only Election Process without any Chapters on Selection, Public Representation & Removal Processes. People must be empowered to have control over their Elected Representatives.

2)  There is NO real Voters Education & Protection like Consumers/Investors Education/Protection. Voters Education & Protection is basic requirement in Democracy.

Hope the above points will be addressed in the Seminar by Speakers & Participants.

Wishing success of the seminar and best regards,

Navin Pandya

Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 06:18:51 +0100
From: maulikbharat@gmail.com
To: maulikbharat@gmail.com
Subject: [IAC#RG] Regarding Seminar on Election Reform




Respected Friends
      Vandematram

Schedule of Seminar on election reform and Tax reform is final.  
We also planning for a press conference in the beginning.  Please reserve your time for this very important event.
Your suggestion about speaker/ guest are invited.

Date - 02-03- 2014
Day -  Sunday
Time - 2 to 8 PM
Venue - Deputy Speaker hall, Constitutional Club, Rafi Marg, New Delhi

After all suggestion and discussion, final schedule will be mail to you.

Thanks.
With regards

Anuj Agarwal
General Secretary
Maulik Bharat
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Re: [IAC#RG] CAUTION to IAC and the public

You are mistaken, Mr. Gupta. You fail to gauge the strength of the honest common man
who has suffered all these years at the hands of forty (32+8) just to save one ALIBABA. 
Second number of STRENGTH in 16th Lok Sabha would be Aam Aadmi Parrty. Congress may not win eve 80 seats. One man or one idea is sufficient for CHANGE as shown by M.K.Gandhi or Nelson Mandela.
 
BADLAAV
22.02.2014  
 
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From: R.K.Gupta
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎22‎ ‎February‎ ‎2014 ‎19‎:‎17
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net, Satyendra Srivastava, Arun Roy, kuldeep Verma, shahroz khan, akgautam, navdeep.sharma
 
Dear All,
It is infact now high time for all of us to re-think voting to regional level parties including TMC,AIMDK,DMK,SP,BSP etc.as these parties have sole motive to make money and disturb functioning of Parliament and their leaders have ethics when it comes  to maintain High Office decorum they fight in the prestigious office of our country like animals.
It is therefore the right time for all of us  to select two National Level parties and rotate them on the basis of their performance and this category we only see BJP & Congress as if  you just analyse their performance in various states like  Rajasthan,Gujarat,Madhya Pradesh,Uttrancahal,Karnataka,Himachal Pradesh,Chattisgarh,Punjab,Maharashtra,Goa etc you will observe the state progress made in real sense inspite of some minor scam of negligible nature in comparison to hidden scam notice during the regime of Mayawati  in UP,Mulayam Singh,Nitish Kumar in Bihar,Lallu Yadav in Bihar although they were made public but with no action later on.
So decide this time on Modi as PM Choice and then Rahul Gandhi in  the next term  
Regards,
R.K.Gupta


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Vijoy Ambasta <vijoy.ambasta@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr Roy
Thanks for the mail. Yes it is important to be very cautious before supporting a candidate. However you seem to trust no one no system neither you have any plan to restore coruptionless politics. Are you waiting to indoctrinate the newly born today or in near future so that a sanitised society is found and then they fight elections or may be you are thinking to simplify the constitution. At that time we may not be there in India o se a RamRajya. 
I suggest please try to see a ray of hope everywhere, being a pessimist will take you  no where
vijoy Ambasta         Nagpur


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear IAC friends

About a year back IAC had conducted an open poll on India's most
honest politicians etc. presaging the emergence of a third front in
the Lok Sabha elections. Ms. Mamata Banerjee of TMC had emerged (by a
very wide margin) as IAC's most honest politician (from the list we
then put up).

Since then much water has flowed under the Howrah Bridge and many
indications of the shady scamsters and PONZI artists who are
bankrolling various fringe, anarchist and lunatic parties are
emerging. All kinds of corporate wheeler dealers (aka. touts and
fixers) are entering politics as MPs or as nominated MPs to Rajya
Sabha. Mamata's TMC is also now very much a part of this system.
Elections are being funded, and won, by persons who have
systematically defrauded Indian Banking system for many years,
operated parallel financial institutions and created vast land banks
with public money and exposed the PSU Banking sector to almost certain
collapse if these scamsters can stay on.

The new modus operandi of the fixers is to project certain supposedly
honest persons and get them elected / selected. For instance Mr. Anna
Hazare is being assured he will be made a Rajya Sabha MP, Ms. Medha
Patkar is being promised that Congress will make her as the next AAP
CM of Maharashtra and so on.

I also wish to caution our members that nothing today is
straightforward and everything is following a well scripted plan
(drafted by foreigners) to fool the simple Indians and subvert
democracy. I would sincerely advise our list members to read old
articles like this link (with an open mind) - which are relevant
today.

http://www.bismillahnews.in/?page_id=1121

The indications are firmly that all the "ex-journo" fixers are back in
"business" cutting across party lines.

At the present time IAC does not support Mr. Anna Hazare's call to
back Mamata's TMC candidates, which support we believe has been
procured / arranged by the fixers who control Mr. Hazare today to
create confusion in India's polity. IAC also needs to see if TMC can
expel all these scamsters from within its ranks.

Sarbajit



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Thursday, February 20, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] CAUTION to IAC and the public

Dear All,

There is no need for LOKPAL, JANLOKPAL, amendments to Constitution ..............etc., to root out CORRUPTION.  To start with all IAC Members stop giving Bribe and demand Bribe in our daily life.  Most of us Bribe to get the job done and demand Bribe to do a job for which all are get hefty salary/income in the Govt/PSU/PSE/Quasi Govt/Private/Business.  By any punishment we cannot root out Corruption. There are various punishments for Theft, Murder, Rape, Cheating from time immemorial.  Punishments have not deterred those who indulge the above acts.  If the IAC Members are really interested to root out Corruption, let us all organise campaigns  in all Offices " DON'T GET YOUR JOB DONE BY GIVING BRIBE" " DON'T DEMAND BRIBE FOR DOING ANY JOB" " DON'T TRY TO GET THE JOB THROUGH SHORT-CUT METHODS BY BRIBING" " DON'T TRY TO ACHIEVE A JOB VIOLATING THE RULES AND REGULATIONS" " DON'T TRY TO GET UNDUE BENEFITS BY DECLARING FALSE STATEMENTS ON PAYMENT OF EXCISE/CUSTOM DUTIES, PORT DUES, SALES TAX, INCOME TAX, MUNICIPAL TAX, ROAD TAX, MV TAX, DRIVING LICENSE, RATION CARD, PASS PORT, BUILDING PLAN APPROVAL, ELECTRICITY BOARD CONNECTIONS, WATER AND SEWAGE TAX  ETC. THESE ARE THE AREAS WHERE THERE IS HUGE CORRUPTION.  LET US ALL RESOLVE THAT WE WILL NOT GIVE AND TAKE ANY BRIBE WHILE DEALING WITH THE ABOVE DEPARTMENTS.  IF WE ALL STRICTLY FOLLOW THAT " NO BRIBE GIVING AND TAKING"  IN OUR DAILY LIFE, LOWER LEVEL CORRUPTION WILL COME DOWN DRASTICALLY.   

PLEASE TELL ME HONESTLY, HOW MANY IAC MEMBERS WILL COME FORWARD TO PRACTICE THE ABOVE.

A.S. KALYANAM,
MANAGER (LPG-SALES) INDIANOIL RETD.
CHENNAI..





On Thursday, 20 February 2014 10:50 AM, Vijoy Ambasta <vijoy.ambasta@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr Roy
Thanks for the mail. Yes it is important to be very cautious before supporting a candidate. However you seem to trust no one no system neither you have any plan to restore coruptionless politics. Are you waiting to indoctrinate the newly born today or in near future so that a sanitised society is found and then they fight elections or may be you are thinking to simplify the constitution. At that time we may not be there in India o se a RamRajya. 
I suggest please try to see a ray of hope everywhere, being a pessimist will take you  no where
vijoy Ambasta         Nagpur


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear IAC friends

About a year back IAC had conducted an open poll on India's most
honest politicians etc. presaging the emergence of a third front in
the Lok Sabha elections. Ms. Mamata Banerjee of TMC had emerged (by a
very wide margin) as IAC's most honest politician (from the list we
then put up).

Since then much water has flowed under the Howrah Bridge and many
indications of the shady scamsters and PONZI artists who are
bankrolling various fringe, anarchist and lunatic parties are
emerging. All kinds of corporate wheeler dealers (aka. touts and
fixers) are entering politics as MPs or as nominated MPs to Rajya
Sabha. Mamata's TMC is also now very much a part of this system.
Elections are being funded, and won, by persons who have
systematically defrauded Indian Banking system for many years,
operated parallel financial institutions and created vast land banks
with public money and exposed the PSU Banking sector to almost certain
collapse if these scamsters can stay on.

The new modus operandi of the fixers is to project certain supposedly
honest persons and get them elected / selected. For instance Mr. Anna
Hazare is being assured he will be made a Rajya Sabha MP, Ms. Medha
Patkar is being promised that Congress will make her as the next AAP
CM of Maharashtra and so on.

I also wish to caution our members that nothing today is
straightforward and everything is following a well scripted plan
(drafted by foreigners) to fool the simple Indians and subvert
democracy. I would sincerely advise our list members to read old
articles like this link (with an open mind) - which are relevant
today.

http://www.bismillahnews.in/?page_id=1121

The indications are firmly that all the "ex-journo" fixers are back in
"business" cutting across party lines.

At the present time IAC does not support Mr. Anna Hazare's call to
back Mamata's TMC candidates, which support we believe has been
procured / arranged by the fixers who control Mr. Hazare today to
create confusion in India's polity. IAC also needs to see if TMC can
expel all these scamsters from within its ranks.

Sarbajit

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Re: [IAC#RG] vote for any party based on Prime Ministerial candidate

The Prime Minister is chosen/elected by the parliamentary party of the party chosen as the ruling party, based on seats won in the Lok Sabha (only) - either all by itself or in alliance with other parties, by the President.
The Prime Minister has to demonstrate that s/he enjoys the confidence of the Lok Sabha (only) - i.e. in a confidence/no-confidence vote (in the Lok Sabha), or a vote on a finance bill, must get the majority of the votes cast.
The Rajya Sabha does not play any role in deciding the Prime Minister.
Even a non-MP can become the PM, but within six months has got to be elected to either the LS or the RS.

A non-citizen is not eligible to become a voter or an MP or the PM.

In pursuance of the latest amendment in this regard, even a non-resident of a particular state can become a Rajya Sabha member from that state, if otherwise eligible.

Sukla


On 18 February 2014 18:00, Rakshpal Abrol <rakshpal.abrol@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

 Please read very carefully the Constitution of India amended more than 112 times.
The Prime Minister is elected by the electoral college consisting of elected representatives of both the houses of People and not based on the
party basis.
The person even not a citizen of India can be chosen as Prime Minster. Even if his/her parents do not belong to Indian Community.His/her name is listed in the electroll prepared by the Election Commission. People do not have Constitutional Right to challenge the data provided inthe Electroll roles prepared under the supervision of Chief Election Commission under Article 324.
Pandit Jawahar Lal Nehru was not the citizen of India declared under Article 84 (a) of the Constitution, so Smt. Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi.
Dr. Man Mohan Singh is another glaring example. He is a Prime Minister of India for now Ten years. He was not domiciled at Assam after its formation as State.
He or his family members do not belong to Schedule Tribes of North Eastern area.
People Representation Act,1951 do not have sanction to over throw the Constitution as established by law. The Rules are framed to carry out the intrepretation of law and Statute. The Constitution is supreme claimed by the highest Judicial Authority. But is it correctly administer by any one for the last 66 years.
The hindi translation was printed after 1988. It was not accepted in Hindi language and is not respected in Hindi Devnagari at any Court of law established.
Prime Minister can throw the President ,if he/she do not follow his advice.
Former President of India had given his assent on fax paper to impose President Rule in Bihar.

 

Warm regards,
 
Rakshpal Abrol
Consumer Activist
9820203154
rakshpal.abrol@yahoo.co.in

From: Vishwanath Mada <vishmada@hotmail.com>
To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Sunday, 16 February 2014 6:20 PM
Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] vote for any party based on Prime Ministerial candidate

Hi
There may be thousands in different fields. We should look for holistic individual who can hold the nation together of Million diversity of 1.3 billion people and not ignoring majority, minority or any other sectarian groups for whatever reason the individual may have. It must be INDIA FIRST and INDIA TILL THE LAST. We should cultivate the habit of important national interest should have a NATIONAL DEBATE at EVERY DISTRICT LEVEL not in a TV channel only. We should take cull cross section opinion before the bill is prepared and goes to parliament.  

Only a responsible national party with reach all over should field candidates, if not it will be a LARGE POT of 500 plus FORCES  PULLING THE PARLIAMENT in to different directions for which we must guard against. 

A WEAK PM and his PARTY will do exactly what has happened to India for the last 2 terms of parliament. Under these circumstances greed plays a major factor to hold power as he and the party becomes helpless and will over look all the misdeeds of their supporters. PM we will call WEAK, who made him weak, we have made him weak by no providing the required numbers for him to take the required decisions. We the citizens are equally responsible.

We had put up a CANDIDATE in the year 2006 to corporation election and we won. It was a good experiment but according to most of the supporters felt, we failed to get the desired result of implementation of policy matters,in spite of an honest candidate. Candidate did not have  of the support of the required numbers at the corporation meetings.

The party with a vision must be supported and not the only candidate. Candidates with doubtful background manupulate by puting up their spouse or children as candidates and control the candidate which we should resist by not electing such candidates, or parties. Independents and small regional parties can only harm the democracy than do any good. With huge money bags of some parties will be able to do unimaginable harm as it happened for the last two terms of parliament.

Manohar Prikar govt. in Goa survived because he has reasonable majority if not he would have been sitting in opposition by now as he himself claimed in one of the meetings recently in Mumbai.

Bajpai govt. had large number of parties supporting and exerting undue pressure from all sides. It becomes difficult for a govt. to take any bold, necessary, desired decisions FOR AND THE NATIONAL  interest you need to take AND you must take. In most difficult times these individuals and parties ask for different benefits or a package for the themselves leaving the national interest to ransom.

Regads 
Vishwanath Mada



  
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:42:14 +0530
From: nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: [IAC#RG] vote for any party based on Prime Ministerial candidate


To
 
India Against Corruption
 
 
                                     Vote for the party based on  the
                    Prime Ministerial  candidate in the parliamentary polls.
 
There are certainly much better persons in India today than Kejriwals, Raj Thackerays, Venugopals  (of TDP).   There are honest and productive  workers  consisting of scientists, engineers , economists and NGOs , who really contribute to the national growth in variety of ways.  Unfortunately, our media  do not take note of them but only focus on those indulging in antics, gimmicks  and rowdy behaviour in parliament, assemblies and in public life.
In view of such attitude of media , an impression prevails that India consist only of such elements, which is  affecting  the morale of the entire population and image of the country in the world.
Inspite of the corrupt politicians  and  bureaucracy, still a lot of good work is going on in the country and many Indians are increasingly being recognised internationally for their achievements , though Indian media may ignore them.  This is a sad state of affairs.
Certainly, a capable Prime Minister can bring about a  healthy climate  of growth and progress and bring respect to the country and government, where  quality Indians would be recognised and given encouragement and appropriate positions . When such  healthy   and progressive climate is built, it would inevitably lead to a situation where discredited persons cannot hold the country to ransom as at present.
Obviously, the country needs honest , strong and well  motivated Prime Minister who is ultimately responsible for all happenings in India in  one way or the other.
During the forthcoming parliamentary polls ,the electorate should be given a clear choice as to who would be the next Prime Minister  by the political outfits like Congress party and third front also
People should really  be given an opportunity to vote for  any party, based on the person projected as Prime Minister by the party.
India cannot afford government leadership of the present standards anymore, which mean that   the people would  have a choice  about the person becoming the Prime Minister  and  political coterie would not decide this.  
 
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Dear All,
It is infact now high time for all of us to re-think voting to regional level parties including TMC,AIMDK,DMK,SP,BSP etc.as these parties have sole motive to make money and disturb functioning of Parliament and their leaders have ethics when it comes  to maintain High Office decorum they fight in the prestigious office of our country like animals.
It is therefore the right time for all of us  to select two National Level parties and rotate them on the basis of their performance and this category we only see BJP & Congress as if  you just analyse their performance in various states like  Rajasthan,Gujarat,Madhya Pradesh,Uttrancahal,Karnataka,Himachal Pradesh,Chattisgarh,Punjab,Maharashtra,Goa etc you will observe the state progress made in real sense inspite of some minor scam of negligible nature in comparison to hidden scam notice during the regime of Mayawati  in UP,Mulayam Singh,Nitish Kumar in Bihar,Lallu Yadav in Bihar although they were made public but with no action later on.
So decide this time on Modi as PM Choice and then Rahul Gandhi in  the next term  
Regards,
R.K.Gupta


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Vijoy Ambasta <vijoy.ambasta@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr Roy
Thanks for the mail. Yes it is important to be very cautious before supporting a candidate. However you seem to trust no one no system neither you have any plan to restore coruptionless politics. Are you waiting to indoctrinate the newly born today or in near future so that a sanitised society is found and then they fight elections or may be you are thinking to simplify the constitution. At that time we may not be there in India o se a RamRajya. 
I suggest please try to see a ray of hope everywhere, being a pessimist will take you  no where
vijoy Ambasta         Nagpur


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear IAC friends

About a year back IAC had conducted an open poll on India's most
honest politicians etc. presaging the emergence of a third front in
the Lok Sabha elections. Ms. Mamata Banerjee of TMC had emerged (by a
very wide margin) as IAC's most honest politician (from the list we
then put up).

Since then much water has flowed under the Howrah Bridge and many
indications of the shady scamsters and PONZI artists who are
bankrolling various fringe, anarchist and lunatic parties are
emerging. All kinds of corporate wheeler dealers (aka. touts and
fixers) are entering politics as MPs or as nominated MPs to Rajya
Sabha. Mamata's TMC is also now very much a part of this system.
Elections are being funded, and won, by persons who have
systematically defrauded Indian Banking system for many years,
operated parallel financial institutions and created vast land banks
with public money and exposed the PSU Banking sector to almost certain
collapse if these scamsters can stay on.

The new modus operandi of the fixers is to project certain supposedly
honest persons and get them elected / selected. For instance Mr. Anna
Hazare is being assured he will be made a Rajya Sabha MP, Ms. Medha
Patkar is being promised that Congress will make her as the next AAP
CM of Maharashtra and so on.

I also wish to caution our members that nothing today is
straightforward and everything is following a well scripted plan
(drafted by foreigners) to fool the simple Indians and subvert
democracy. I would sincerely advise our list members to read old
articles like this link (with an open mind) - which are relevant
today.

http://www.bismillahnews.in/?page_id=1121

The indications are firmly that all the "ex-journo" fixers are back in
"business" cutting across party lines.

At the present time IAC does not support Mr. Anna Hazare's call to
back Mamata's TMC candidates, which support we believe has been
procured / arranged by the fixers who control Mr. Hazare today to
create confusion in India's polity. IAC also needs to see if TMC can
expel all these scamsters from within its ranks.

Sarbajit



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Re: [IAC#RG] CAUTION to IAC and the public

What Vijoy Ambasta says is correct. Whatever action is to be taken should be taken promptly so we are able to see the changed scenario. We have limited time at our disposal.
M.Y. Thote


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Vijoy Ambasta <vijoy.ambasta@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr Roy
Thanks for the mail. Yes it is important to be very cautious before supporting a candidate. However you seem to trust no one no system neither you have any plan to restore coruptionless politics. Are you waiting to indoctrinate the newly born today or in near future so that a sanitised society is found and then they fight elections or may be you are thinking to simplify the constitution. At that time we may not be there in India o se a RamRajya. 
I suggest please try to see a ray of hope everywhere, being a pessimist will take you  no where
vijoy Ambasta         Nagpur


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear IAC friends

About a year back IAC had conducted an open poll on India's most
honest politicians etc. presaging the emergence of a third front in
the Lok Sabha elections. Ms. Mamata Banerjee of TMC had emerged (by a
very wide margin) as IAC's most honest politician (from the list we
then put up).

Since then much water has flowed under the Howrah Bridge and many
indications of the shady scamsters and PONZI artists who are
bankrolling various fringe, anarchist and lunatic parties are
emerging. All kinds of corporate wheeler dealers (aka. touts and
fixers) are entering politics as MPs or as nominated MPs to Rajya
Sabha. Mamata's TMC is also now very much a part of this system.
Elections are being funded, and won, by persons who have
systematically defrauded Indian Banking system for many years,
operated parallel financial institutions and created vast land banks
with public money and exposed the PSU Banking sector to almost certain
collapse if these scamsters can stay on.

The new modus operandi of the fixers is to project certain supposedly
honest persons and get them elected / selected. For instance Mr. Anna
Hazare is being assured he will be made a Rajya Sabha MP, Ms. Medha
Patkar is being promised that Congress will make her as the next AAP
CM of Maharashtra and so on.

I also wish to caution our members that nothing today is
straightforward and everything is following a well scripted plan
(drafted by foreigners) to fool the simple Indians and subvert
democracy. I would sincerely advise our list members to read old
articles like this link (with an open mind) - which are relevant
today.

http://www.bismillahnews.in/?page_id=1121

The indications are firmly that all the "ex-journo" fixers are back in
"business" cutting across party lines.

At the present time IAC does not support Mr. Anna Hazare's call to
back Mamata's TMC candidates, which support we believe has been
procured / arranged by the fixers who control Mr. Hazare today to
create confusion in India's polity. IAC also needs to see if TMC can
expel all these scamsters from within its ranks.

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Re: [IAC#RG] BJP's miscalculations and resultant damage

Totally ixplicable.  Could have abstained at least.

Time has come the Walrus said to talk of many things

On 19 Feb 2014, at 18:43, kameswar elangbam <dreksingh@gmail.com> wrote:

BJP's Costly Mistake


Modi's countrywide effort of hard work has been ruined to a great extent by today's action by the BJP in the parliament by supporting Telengana bill.

Modi himself has publicly stated that the division of Andhra Pradesh by congress is the perfect example of Zehar-ki- Kheti, today BJP joined hands with the same group, who divided the country and its people. Indeed in principle, BJP supports Telengana, but not in this manner done by congress. Alas, BJP has dirtied its hand so miserably; God only knows how to salvage from this situation.

By supporting T- Bill, BJP will never get any sympathy from TRS, while have antagonize a number of potential allies TDP, YRS congress, etc, whose support may come vital in Govt. formation 2014 (provided they miss 272). Many felt, how they could commit such a blunder and cause such great damage at the cost of Modi's hard work to regain the loss ground.

BJP could have waited till the elections, or not at this time; when emotions are high and everyone in the country are watching; how BJP behaves in a balanced manner, all that gone to drain today.

It is indeed a sad day for the country, when the country is yawning for a change to get rid of congress and some hope to bring back development and a strong leadership in Modi becoming the next PM, perhaps that has been gone. Wonder they could not feel the pulse of the people, much beyond the boundaries of AP.

BJP needs to go with times, sticking to principles, yet manage to gain from both sides.

A costly mistake at the cost Modi's great efforts, sad.


Dr K S Elangbam

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[IAC#RG] Regarding Seminar on Election Reform




Respected Friends
      Vandematram

Schedule of Seminar on election reform and Tax reform is final.  
We also planning for a press conference in the beginning.  Please reserve your time for this very important event.
Your suggestion about speaker/ guest are invited.

Date - 02-03- 2014
Day -  Sunday
Time - 2 to 8 PM
Venue - Deputy Speaker hall, Constitutional Club, Rafi Marg, New Delhi

After all suggestion and discussion, final schedule will be mail to you.

Thanks.
With regards

Anuj Agarwal
General Secretary
Maulik Bharat
09811424443

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Mr Roy
Thanks for the mail. Yes it is important to be very cautious before supporting a candidate. However you seem to trust no one no system neither you have any plan to restore coruptionless politics. Are you waiting to indoctrinate the newly born today or in near future so that a sanitised society is found and then they fight elections or may be you are thinking to simplify the constitution. At that time we may not be there in India o se a RamRajya. 
I suggest please try to see a ray of hope everywhere, being a pessimist will take you  no where
vijoy Ambasta         Nagpur


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear IAC friends

About a year back IAC had conducted an open poll on India's most
honest politicians etc. presaging the emergence of a third front in
the Lok Sabha elections. Ms. Mamata Banerjee of TMC had emerged (by a
very wide margin) as IAC's most honest politician (from the list we
then put up).

Since then much water has flowed under the Howrah Bridge and many
indications of the shady scamsters and PONZI artists who are
bankrolling various fringe, anarchist and lunatic parties are
emerging. All kinds of corporate wheeler dealers (aka. touts and
fixers) are entering politics as MPs or as nominated MPs to Rajya
Sabha. Mamata's TMC is also now very much a part of this system.
Elections are being funded, and won, by persons who have
systematically defrauded Indian Banking system for many years,
operated parallel financial institutions and created vast land banks
with public money and exposed the PSU Banking sector to almost certain
collapse if these scamsters can stay on.

The new modus operandi of the fixers is to project certain supposedly
honest persons and get them elected / selected. For instance Mr. Anna
Hazare is being assured he will be made a Rajya Sabha MP, Ms. Medha
Patkar is being promised that Congress will make her as the next AAP
CM of Maharashtra and so on.

I also wish to caution our members that nothing today is
straightforward and everything is following a well scripted plan
(drafted by foreigners) to fool the simple Indians and subvert
democracy. I would sincerely advise our list members to read old
articles like this link (with an open mind) - which are relevant
today.

http://www.bismillahnews.in/?page_id=1121

The indications are firmly that all the "ex-journo" fixers are back in
"business" cutting across party lines.

At the present time IAC does not support Mr. Anna Hazare's call to
back Mamata's TMC candidates, which support we believe has been
procured / arranged by the fixers who control Mr. Hazare today to
create confusion in India's polity. IAC also needs to see if TMC can
expel all these scamsters from within its ranks.

Sarbajit

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Mr Sarbajit Roy
Copy should be endorsed to Mukul Roy of TMC for any action the party desires to take.
With kind regards



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On Thu, 2/20/14, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: [IAC#RG] CAUTION to IAC and the public
To: "indiaresists" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Date: Thursday, February 20, 2014, 1:48 AM

Dear IAC friends

About a year back IAC had conducted an open poll on India's
most
honest politicians etc. presaging the emergence of a third
front in
the Lok Sabha elections. Ms. Mamata Banerjee of TMC had
emerged (by a
very wide margin) as IAC's most honest politician (from the
list we
then put up).

Since then much water has flowed under the Howrah Bridge and
many
indications of the shady scamsters and PONZI artists who
are
bankrolling various fringe, anarchist and lunatic parties
are
emerging. All kinds of corporate wheeler dealers (aka. touts
and
fixers) are entering politics as MPs or as nominated MPs to
Rajya
Sabha. Mamata's TMC is also now very much a part of this
system.
Elections are being funded, and won, by persons who have
systematically defrauded Indian Banking system for many
years,
operated parallel financial institutions and created vast
land banks
with public money and exposed the PSU Banking sector to
almost certain
collapse if these scamsters can stay on.

The new modus operandi of the fixers is to project certain
supposedly
honest persons and get them elected / selected. For instance
Mr. Anna
Hazare is being assured he will be made a Rajya Sabha MP,
Ms. Medha
Patkar is being promised that Congress will make her as the
next AAP
CM of Maharashtra and so on.

I also wish to caution our members that nothing today is
straightforward and everything is following a well scripted
plan
(drafted by foreigners) to fool the simple Indians and
subvert
democracy. I would sincerely advise our list members to read
old
articles like this link (with an open mind) - which are
relevant
today.

http://www.bismillahnews.in/?page_id=1121

The indications are firmly that all the "ex-journo" fixers
are back in
"business" cutting across party lines.

At the present time IAC does not support Mr. Anna Hazare's
call to
back Mamata's TMC candidates, which support we believe has
been
procured / arranged by the fixers who control Mr. Hazare
today to
create confusion in India's polity. IAC also needs to see if
TMC can
expel all these scamsters from within its ranks.

Sarbajit

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[IAC#RG] CAUTION to IAC and the public

Dear IAC friends

About a year back IAC had conducted an open poll on India's most
honest politicians etc. presaging the emergence of a third front in
the Lok Sabha elections. Ms. Mamata Banerjee of TMC had emerged (by a
very wide margin) as IAC's most honest politician (from the list we
then put up).

Since then much water has flowed under the Howrah Bridge and many
indications of the shady scamsters and PONZI artists who are
bankrolling various fringe, anarchist and lunatic parties are
emerging. All kinds of corporate wheeler dealers (aka. touts and
fixers) are entering politics as MPs or as nominated MPs to Rajya
Sabha. Mamata's TMC is also now very much a part of this system.
Elections are being funded, and won, by persons who have
systematically defrauded Indian Banking system for many years,
operated parallel financial institutions and created vast land banks
with public money and exposed the PSU Banking sector to almost certain
collapse if these scamsters can stay on.

The new modus operandi of the fixers is to project certain supposedly
honest persons and get them elected / selected. For instance Mr. Anna
Hazare is being assured he will be made a Rajya Sabha MP, Ms. Medha
Patkar is being promised that Congress will make her as the next AAP
CM of Maharashtra and so on.

I also wish to caution our members that nothing today is
straightforward and everything is following a well scripted plan
(drafted by foreigners) to fool the simple Indians and subvert
democracy. I would sincerely advise our list members to read old
articles like this link (with an open mind) - which are relevant
today.

http://www.bismillahnews.in/?page_id=1121

The indications are firmly that all the "ex-journo" fixers are back in
"business" cutting across party lines.

At the present time IAC does not support Mr. Anna Hazare's call to
back Mamata's TMC candidates, which support we believe has been
procured / arranged by the fixers who control Mr. Hazare today to
create confusion in India's polity. IAC also needs to see if TMC can
expel all these scamsters from within its ranks.

Sarbajit
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Re: [IAC#RG] vote for any party based on Prime Ministerial candidate

There is nothing to take into consideration. The Congress is already fighting a half hearted campaign due to strong anti-incumbency factor. One should not be surprised if they have already decided to sit on the opposition benches or at the most become the king makers. In the event they can nominate a leader of the opposition which may or may not be Rahul Gandhi.

 But this in not the point under discussion. The point under discussion is whether it is profitable to nominate a PM candidate and fight an election under his leadership or whether to win the election first and then decide who would lead the party in Parliament. In the UK there is a party in power and a shadow cabinet with each  member specialising in one or more portfolios. and usually they fight elections on the basis of the existing shadow experience..

During the last NDA win, the BJP had a choice between LKA and ABV. LKA had more right to the job but due to relatively fresh memories of the Babri Masjid, it was considered safe to put forward the modest face of ABV.  LKA got two chances thereafter and he was getting ready for a third one when the RSS decided, to LKA's dismay that it was time to put a new face forward. But more recently, a meeting between LKA and Mohan Bhagwat has rejuvenated the old war horse and he declared that his task was not over yet and that he was going to fight an election from his old constituency. It will be speculative to say anything more on this.

"The BJP/NDA's nominated N Modi is running a very successful Presidential type of campaign but with a grave strategic risk where political isolation is almost certain. He also has little chance of attracting friends on equal basis before the elections either in his own political fraternity or in other parties. If Mr Modi gets a shot at governance without sweeping control, he will have to placate partners. That would result in the world seeing a new Narindra Modi, someone more amiable. It he has to stay as he has been so far, he must either perform remarkably well in the polls or else he will be remembered as the biggest marketing hoax of Indian elections."


Devinder             

 
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To: "devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com" <devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com>; d <drbh90@yahoo.com>; "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
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It appears that you are not taking into consideration the circumstances. The present circumstances are such that the people are completely fed up with the Congress and the cottary and the dynasty as also they were not so happy with the BJP under the leadership of Advani and the group and the reports were there that  BJP willl not get as many votes as it will get if it nominates Modi as its PM candidate. By the way, you have stated that experience has shown thatelecting a PM isbetter than imposing a PM in waiting. Will you cite an example of your so called experience?
 
V.S.Sardesai
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Sent: Sunday, 16 February 2014 11:52 PM
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What is more embarrassing. A PM chosen by the party after its has fought and won an election or name one before the election and not win it. This leaves an eternal PM in waiting who looses a couple of elections and then you bring another one and make him a PM  candidate perhaps in waiting again. Experience has shown that electing a PM is better than imposing a PM in waiting.   Devinder
From: d <drbh90@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sunday, 16 February 2014, 14:52
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] vote for any party based on Prime Ministerial candidate

I agree with you that we must know who is going to be our PM. It is absurd to say that the MLA/MP will choose .
Secondly only CM should be chossen from the MLA's only. No MP should be forced as an CM . If the MP has the guts he should run for the MLA.
RAJYA SHABHA MEMBERS SHOULD BE ELECTED FROM THE SAME STATE &NOT FROM OUTSIDE THE STATE. because these are members who are basically chamchas of the big bosses & they dont have the guts to fight elections 
PM term should not be more than two terms.
Party president also be not more than two terms 
Once a Governor he should not be allowed to fight any election & TERM should be maximum two terms.
No politician should be made governor .Please bring good beaurocrates /Army Generals ! Eminent scientist  to this post 




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Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
To
 
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                                     Vote for the party based on  the
                    Prime Ministerial  candidate in the parliamentary polls.
 
There are certainly much better persons in India today than Kejriwals, Raj Thackerays, Venugopals  (of TDP).   There are honest and productive  workers  consisting of scientists, engineers , economists and NGOs , who really contribute to the national growth in variety of ways.  Unfortunately, our media  do not take note of them but only focus on those indulging in antics, gimmicks  and rowdy behaviour in parliament, assemblies and in public life.
In view of such attitude of media , an impression prevails that India consist only of such elements, which is  affecting  the morale of the entire population and image of the country in the world.
Inspite of the corrupt politicians  and  bureaucracy, still a lot of good work is going on in the country and many Indians are increasingly being recognised internationally for their achievements , though Indian media may ignore them.  This is a sad state of affairs.
Certainly, a capable Prime Minister can bring about a  healthy climate  of growth and progress and bring respect to the country and government, where  quality Indians would be recognised and given encouragement and appropriate positions . When such  healthy   and progressive climate is built, it would inevitably lead to a situation where discredited persons cannot hold the country to ransom as at present.
Obviously, the country needs honest , strong and well  motivated Prime Minister who is ultimately responsible for all happenings in India in  one way or the other.
During the forthcoming parliamentary polls ,the electorate should be given a clear choice as to who would be the next Prime Minister  by the political outfits like Congress party and third front also
People should really  be given an opportunity to vote for  any party, based on the person projected as Prime Minister by the party.
India cannot afford government leadership of the present standards anymore, which mean that   the people would  have a choice  about the person becoming the Prime Minister  and  political coterie would not decide this.  
 
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It appears that you are not taking into consideration the circumstances. The present circumstances are such that the people are completely fed up with the Congress and the cottary and the dynasty as also they were not so happy with the BJP under the leadership of Advani and the group and the reports were there that  BJP willl not get as many votes as it will get if it nominates Modi as its PM candidate. By the way, you have stated that experience has shown thatelecting a PM isbetter than imposing a PM in waiting. Will you cite an example of your so called experience?
 
V.S.Sardesai
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Sent: Sunday, 16 February 2014 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] vote for any party based on Prime Ministerial candidate

What is more embarrassing. A PM chosen by the party after its has fought and won an election or name one before the election and not win it. This leaves an eternal PM in waiting who looses a couple of elections and then you bring another one and make him a PM  candidate perhaps in waiting again. Experience has shown that electing a PM is better than imposing a PM in waiting.   Devinder
From: d <drbh90@yahoo.com>
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Sunday, 16 February 2014, 14:52
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] vote for any party based on Prime Ministerial candidate

I agree with you that we must know who is going to be our PM. It is absurd to say that the MLA/MP will choose .
Secondly only CM should be chossen from the MLA's only. No MP should be forced as an CM . If the MP has the guts he should run for the MLA.
RAJYA SHABHA MEMBERS SHOULD BE ELECTED FROM THE SAME STATE &NOT FROM OUTSIDE THE STATE. because these are members who are basically chamchas of the big bosses & they dont have the guts to fight elections 
PM term should not be more than two terms.
Party president also be not more than two terms 
Once a Governor he should not be allowed to fight any election & TERM should be maximum two terms.
No politician should be made governor .Please bring good beaurocrates /Army Generals ! Eminent scientist  to this post 




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Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
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India Against Corruption
 
 
                                     Vote for the party based on  the
                    Prime Ministerial  candidate in the parliamentary polls.
 
There are certainly much better persons in India today than Kejriwals, Raj Thackerays, Venugopals  (of TDP).   There are honest and productive  workers  consisting of scientists, engineers , economists and NGOs , who really contribute to the national growth in variety of ways.  Unfortunately, our media  do not take note of them but only focus on those indulging in antics, gimmicks  and rowdy behaviour in parliament, assemblies and in public life.
In view of such attitude of media , an impression prevails that India consist only of such elements, which is  affecting  the morale of the entire population and image of the country in the world.
Inspite of the corrupt politicians  and  bureaucracy, still a lot of good work is going on in the country and many Indians are increasingly being recognised internationally for their achievements , though Indian media may ignore them.  This is a sad state of affairs.
Certainly, a capable Prime Minister can bring about a  healthy climate  of growth and progress and bring respect to the country and government, where  quality Indians would be recognised and given encouragement and appropriate positions . When such  healthy   and progressive climate is built, it would inevitably lead to a situation where discredited persons cannot hold the country to ransom as at present.
Obviously, the country needs honest , strong and well  motivated Prime Minister who is ultimately responsible for all happenings in India in  one way or the other.
During the forthcoming parliamentary polls ,the electorate should be given a clear choice as to who would be the next Prime Minister  by the political outfits like Congress party and third front also
People should really  be given an opportunity to vote for  any party, based on the person projected as Prime Minister by the party.
India cannot afford government leadership of the present standards anymore, which mean that   the people would  have a choice  about the person becoming the Prime Minister  and  political coterie would not decide this.  
 
N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice For The Deprived

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