Re: [HumJanenge] RTI experts help / opinion needed

Friends, the Hubli City Corporation is a constitutional entity  coming under entry 5 List II 7th Schedule of Constitution.   It is a LOCAL SELF GOVERNMENT - in the sense it has to govern itself.   Even asking for a certification from any entity is neither a rule under the Karnataka Municipality/Corporation Act, neither asking for a certification is a function of the Corporation.   If the Corporation does good work the elected representatives comes back another time otherwise they go home after their term is over or before.   All the expenditure incurred by the Municipality should have been in a pre-approved budget.  Can u check up whether this item of ISO certification was in the budget or supplementary budget and if so whether the approval of the Government was obtained for it.  If both these are in the negative, there is the Auditors controlled by the Controller and Auditor Genral in Karnataka State, in Bangalore, who is supposed to certify the correctness or approve the expenditure.  You can ask in an  rti application to the CAG, Bangalore office by whatever name they call it, to obtain an answer to provide you with a copy of Budget where approval was accorded by a compeitive authority and also to provide a copy of document through which they have taken action to prevent unapprovd or legally not provided expenditure from the the public exchuquer also ask for information on the action taken to recover the unauthorised expenditure and from whom and how.   If u do not received any response, u can ask the Urban Development Department, of Govenment of Karnataka, under rti to provide the above information.  Regards, dwarakanathdm, nbca

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Dr.M.C SINDHUR <drmcsindhur@gmail.com> wrote:

Respected all sirs/Madam,

 

Thanks all for kind valuable reply and guidance . I am resident of Hubli in Karnataka the fact is Our city Corporation has got ISO certification since last 3 years ceertificate was purchased in 2006 by Paying Rs.5.90,000/- for three years and Rs .1,42,500/- presnt 3 years The ISO certification has no roll in administration / powers for providing better civic facilities nor any thing good happening for city.The Civic body only  murmers about ISO and says we are ISO certified and our services are good.But in reality ISO certificates are useless piece of papers purchased for money by government offices by tax payers money .The Karnataka government has no gazette for obtaing ISO certificates for civic bodies. There is no law in force by state government  but show is going on for buying ISO certificates. The foriegn company opens offices in metro /major cities and offers service of issueing ISO certificates with veriying rates from lacs to crores being exchanged from public exchequer.ISO certificates are issued for money and they are not under the ambit of law in karanataka. The FERA regulations must be checked enforced to check the illigal transaction from international companies operating in India under these fictious names for dodging the government agencies for money.

 

Dr.M.C.Sindhur

Hubli

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:14 AM, sandeep kumar <drsandgupta@gmail.com> wrote:

Please send rti to MInistry of consumer affairs. in it also write a
note that I do not exactly know who is to be sent this rti application
and transfer it under 6(3) if it does not concern your office.

On 12/8/10, Dr.M.C SINDHUR <drmcsindhur@gmail.com> wrote:
> To,
> Dear members of Humjanenge group,
>
> SUB:    ISO Certificates issued from international agencies obtained by
> Government agencies /Bodies by paying tax payers money.
>
> Respected Sir,
>
> I would like know and seek help of experts in using RTI .
>
> How to know and extract information under RTI for legal piont of view that
> The  Government  /State / central Organisations / Bodies seeking ISO
> CERTIFICATES from international agencies .The Government agencies are
> spending  tax payers money to buy /Purchasing for huge sums such
> certificates ? Is there any regulation for obtaining ISO certificates from
> International agecies.
>
> whether ISO certifying agencies are recognised by Union Government of India
> / States under the Law.?
>
> What are the propcedures to be followed under Law of Authority and rules
> /regulations/ guidelines framed by Government Of India /State Governments
>  under the
> contitutional amendments made to Laws /Acts/Notifications/Ordinance to get
> Clearances to certify  of government agecies /Bodies by Interantional
> accredition /auditing agencies./Gazette Notification/ Amendments /Cabinet
> approavals/ Approval from Lokasabha / Rajyasabha through Bills and competant
> authorities of Finance Department for allowing payment being made to such
> international agencies? Service tax norms for the services offered under
> such certificates
>
> What are the stauotory /Contitutional requirements mandetory for obtaing ISO
> certifictes from international agencies in india for Central / State
> Government agencies?
>
> If not under the Law Of Authority  prescribed by Indain /State Government
> Laws /Acts In force Law  can they be called illigal?
>
>
> Regards
>
> Thanking you
>
> Your's Faithfully
>
> Dr.M.C.Sindhur
> VIDYANAGAR
> Hubli-21
>

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