Re: [HumJanenge] stabbed but not dead

I know Mr. Lesli personally, He is very active in the field of RTI. He is running RTI clinic in heart of Mumbai from past 5 years.

He has taken up many matter regarding wrong doing in his resident association.

I am of doubt somebody who wants to take revenge from him has instigated his mad neighbour to attack him. But unfortunately it is only doubt as we don't have any concrete proof.    

Regards

Nile

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From: Surendera M. Bhanot <surendera@avissoftware.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, 1 February, 2011 8:07:44 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] stabbed but not dead

Thank God. All well that ends Well. We are happy that you are back with us.

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:11 AM, LESLIE ALMEIDA <lesals2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Friends, I would like to confirm that although i have received a lot of death treats relating to RTI, this incident has nothing to do with with RTI, it was a Paranoid Physopranic neighbour who did it, i did not know he was carrying a knife.   Love  Leslie Almeida

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RE: [HumJanenge] Fwd: FW: Press Release

Sheetal,may I have your contacy no. Bunch-RTI activist --- On Sat, 5/2/11, Justice Kamleshwar Nath <justicekn@gmail.com> wrote: From: Justice Kamleshwar Nath <justicekn@gmail.com> Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] Fwd: FW: Press Release To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 5 February, 2011, 7:30 PM Dear Sheetal ji,               Thanks a lot. We are regular viewers of INDIA TV (including Rajat ji's 'Aap-ki-Adalat'). I shall try to write to you as and when the occasion arises.               Regards,                   KN           From the Desk of : Justice Kamleshwar Nath Retd. : Up-Lokayukta ( Karnataka ), Vice Chairman – C.A.T ( Allahabad ), Judge – High Court ( Lucknow & Allahabad ) Address : `Gunjan', C - 105, Niralanagar, Lucknow : 226 020. Uttar Pradesh , India Phone(s) : +91-522-2789033 & +91-522-4016459. Mobile : +91-9415010746   From: humjanenge@googlegroups.com [mailto: humjanenge@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of mail Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:47 PM To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] Fwd: FW: Press Release   Dear Viewer Thanks for writing to INDIA TV. This is to inform you that your mail has been forwarded to the concerned producer. Stay tuned to India TV. Do keep writing to us with your views and suggestions. Thanks and Regards, Sheetal Response Executive.     From: humjanenge@googlegroups.com [ mail to: humjanenge@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:43 PM To: humjanenge Subject: [HumJanenge] Fwd: FW: Press Release   Message is fwded to HJ as per request of Justice Nath ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Justice Kamleshwar Nath <justicekn@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:31 PM Subject: FW: Press Release Dear All, This 'Forwarded' Mail tells about the of events of FAST-UNTO-DEATH on 30.1.2011 by mentioned Satyagrahis of Gandhian Satyagraha Brigade. To Sri Roy, it is in continuation of an earlier E- mail sent by me to him just a few minutes ago.        Regards,              KN From the Desk of : Justice Kamleshwar Nath Retd. : Up-Lokayukta ( Karnataka ), Vice Chairman - C.A.T ( Allahbad ),  Judge - High Court ( Lucknow & Allahbad ) Address : `Gunjan', C - 105, Niralanagar, Lucknow : 226 020. Uttar Pradesh , India GANDHIAN SEVA & SATYAGRAHA BRIGADE An All India NGO of Gandhian Persuasion, Registered Under the Societies Registration Act, 1860 LAJPAT BHAWAN, LAJPAT NAGAR-IV, NEW DELHI - 110 024               February 3, 2011                                                 PRESS RELEASE Our five Satyagrahis, namely Sh. Shambu Duttji (93) & Ms R.S. Devi (84), Gandhians, who participated in 1942 Quit India movement and were imprisoned, and Sh. Murari Lal (90), Sh. Amarnath (89) and Sh E James Rajasekaran started their Fast-unto-Death on 30th of Jan. at Jantarmantar to demand (i) Appointment of an effective Lokpal, repeatedly committed by major political parties, (ii) Disqualification of the candidates seeking election to Parliament and State Legislatures against whom serious criminal cases are pending (as recommended by four Chief Election Commissioners) and (iii) Confiscation of illegally acquired property of public servants including Ministers, MPs and MLAs & their benami transactions. Through out the day, hundreds of people from all walks of life and from different parts of the country visited them. Sh Shambu Duttji and other Gandhians were requested the whole day for interviews from number of journalists and admirers. Renowned journalist Shri Kuldeep Nayar also visited Gandhians to extend his wholehearted support for the cause. We are coordinating with 'India Against Corruption' in this crusade and the undersigned attended its meetings. Sh Arvind Kejriwal had asked us to request the Satyagrahis to postpone their fast which started from Jan. 30th since it clashed with their rally to which we had expressed our reservation and told them that Satyagrahis' resolve would in fact support their cause. Justice Sachar had a talk with Swami Agnivesh who told me that he along with Kiran Bedi, Arvind Kejriwal, Father Dominique, Teachers from Art of Living, Acharya from Baba Ramdev Sect and many others would come to pay respect to these Satyagrahis. He further informed that they planned to request Satyagrahis to end their fast unto death since they all had resolved to pursue the demand for Lokpal Bill with full force and public support. In view of this development, I consulted all the members of the working committee present at Jantarmantar (namely, Dr. Y.P. Anand, Justice Rajindar Sachar, Shri R. Srinivasan, Shri B.R. Lall, Shri R.K. Khandelwal, Shri Bhagvanji Raiyani, Prof Jagdeep Chhokar, Dr S K Agarwal, Col. Karan Kharb and Shri P.S. Bawa) to know their views about our proposed stand in case we were confronted with the situation where all the above said persons along with hundreds of their supporters made a request to Satyagrahis to break their Fast-unto-Death. Every one thought that it would be extremely arrogant if we don't agree with their request and for better support to the cause it was definitely much wiser to put a joint front with the other organisations pursuing the same cause. One member had a different opinion but he too was quite concerned about the health of the Satyagrahis. Advocate Prashant Bhushan and Justice Tewatia also came to Jantarmantar to pay respect to Satyagrahis and they also requested them to end their fast.  At about 6 pm on Jan. 30, all the above said persons along with their supporters came to Jantarmantar and made a passionate plea to the Satyagrahis to end their fast. Swami Agnivesh told the gathering that since they all had taken up the cause to demand an effective Lokpal Bill, the Satyagrahis therefore should not continue their fast. Kiran Bedi also made a passionate and forceful plea to Shri Shambhu Dutta Ji by saying, ' I am sitting at your feet and will not get up till you end your fast'. Shri Shambu Dutt ji explained to the gathering how we had been fighting for an effective Lokpal and other two demands for the last so many years. He further explained the background in which they were forced to undertake the extreme step. The undersigned then informed the decision of the Working Committee and others to the Satyagrahis to postpone their fast. Justice Sachar, other members of the Working Committee, namely Dr. Y P Anand Vice Chairman, Dr. SK Agarwal, Sh  PS Bawa and Col Kharab also personally requested fasting Satyagrahis to postpone the fast. Shri Shambu Dutta Ji then informed the gathering that because of his love and respect for Swami Agnivesh, Kiran Bedi and others, he would postpone the Fast-unto-Death for three months and hoped that they would do their best to force the government to present an effective Lokpal Bill at the earliest. Hundreds of people from all walks of life clapped and welcomed this decision. Swami Agnivesh and Kiran Bedi then offered  biscuits to the Satyagrahis to break their fast. The undersigned thanked all for their support and commitment for the cause and the gathering dispersed with lot of jubilations. The month long Sataygraha that started on 1st of Jan 2011 with relay hunger strike finished at Jantarmantar with a firm resolve to carry forward the struggle with more zeal and gusto. The next morning the undersigned briefed the GSSB Chairman Justice Kamleshwar Nath who appreciated and approved the proceedings held on 30th Jan. Ashok Arora Hony General Secretary, GSSB

Re: [HumJanenge] Wajahat Habibullah is new minority body chief - Tired but never retired

Dear All Post burial of the RTI Act Mr Wajahat Sonia loyalist Habibullah has been rewarded by the powerful Nehru-Gandhi Dynasty. Grand Old congress deserve nothing but solid kick on its -xxx. Haridas --- On Fri, 4/2/11, C K Jam <rtiwanted@yahoo.com> wrote: From: C K Jam <rtiwanted@yahoo.com> Subject: [HumJanenge] Wajahat Habibullah is new minority body chief - Tired but never retired To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com, rti_india@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 4 February, 2011, 5:40 PM Tired but never retired ! Sir, I thought you were looking forward to riding in your farm in Barabanki. http://www.newkerala.com/news/world/fullnews-139613.html Wajahat Habibullah is new minority body chief New Delhi, Feb 3 : The country's first Chief Information Commissioner Wajahat Habibullah took over as the new chairman of the National Commission for Minorities here. He fills a vacancy caused by the expiry of Mohammad Shafi Qureshi's term in September last year. A former Jammu and Kashmir cadre IAS officer, Mr Habibullah had served as Chief Information Commissioner under the Right to Information Act. Mr Habibullah,66, will hold the office for a period of three years from today. Mr Habibullah, who retired as the CIC in September last year, is also now on the World Bank's first 3-member appeals board set up for public scrutiny of its dealings, with a 2-year stint. He held a meeting of the commission after taking over and also met the senior officers of the NCM. Delhi-based English language poet and author Keki N Daruwala (73), a retired 1958 batch IPS officer, becomes a member of the NCM. The Commission, a statutory body for safeguarding constitutional and legal rights of minorities, has now the full bench of the chairman, vice-chairman and five other members. Mizoram-based Dr H T Sengliana (67), a former MP and retired IPS officer, is the vice-chairman. Other members are: Former Congress MP from Punjab H S Hanspal (72), Ladakh Hill Council member Spaizes Angmo, Mumbai-based author Syeda Bilgrami Imam, an award-winning advertising professional, and Vinod Sharma, a journalist of Hindustan Times.

[HumJanenge] Re: My Grievance concerning the non-disclosure of the National Common Minimum Programme on the website of the NAC

Dear Sh Abrol

I honestly cannot understand what precisely you are trying to convey to me or the other members.

My limited grievance at the present time with the NAC is to the extent NAC possesses powers to interfere in the DoPT's RTI Rule framing process. This is connected to the constitution of NAC, functions of NAC and delegation of powers by some other Constitutional functionary like the PM. The UPA-1 had an NCMP, the UPA-2 does not. There is thus some vagueness in the orders of the Cabsec for NAC-2.

BTW, this is an RTI group. All discussion must have a strong RTI connection.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Rakshpal Abrol <rakshpal.abrol@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

ingh
Dear Sarbjit Royji,

The undersigned was at New Delhi on 12th May,2005 prior to agreement to share multi party decision and to

take upthe National Common  Minimum Programme. The undersigned had been opposing the FDI in retail

Trade, Assistant to Small Scale Industries (Now MICRO,SMALL AND MEDIUM ENTERPRISES).

Both the common minimum programme could not finalise.We had many meetings of National Board of

MSME at Delhi chaired byb then Union Minister of MSME Shri Mahabir Prasad.There were two sectretaries

of MSME, Dr. Chander Prakash and there after Dinesh Rai. There were two D.C. Jawahar Sarkar then Madhav Lal.

Now the State Minister Shri Dinsha Patel has been replaced with VirBhadra SinghMr from Himachal Pradesh.

 Mr Virbhadra Singh was Chief Minister of Himachal Pradesh.He could not protect the MSME at Himachal Pradesh.Can he do so

for entire country.?

Warm regards,

 

Rakshpal Abrol
Consumer Activist
9820203154
rakshpal.abrol@yahoo.co.in

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From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>

To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, 4 February, 2011 9:56:35 PM

Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: My Grievance concerning the non-disclosure of the National Common Minimum Programme on the website of the NAC

Dear Sir

You have not comprehended the issues raised by me, possibly because you are reading me at a superficial level.

PS: I am not a naxalite / leftist, nor do I support multi-party democracy (or dynastic politics)

Sarbajit

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Rakshpal Abrol <rakshpal.abrol@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Dear Sir,

I do not know you personally and have never taken the path you have taken in last 30 years.

I understand your feelings,but please let me know,why did you not opposed the corruption

and family dictatorships.

I had the oppertunity to meet D. Raja, Somnath Chatterjee, and many other elected members of

Parliament prior to 12th May,2004 at New Delhi.They had joined the hand with Indian National
Congress to remain in power.Mr. Somnath Chatterjee was elected Speaker and he refused the

party line.

The issues of Minimum Programme agreed could not materialise.

To day we are facing acute shortage of food articles, inflation went

on double digit.The CPI and CPI (M), and other left parties have lost

grip on poor and common man .

Now the one time elected Member of Parliament Mr. Pranab Mukherjee

could not force upon Smt Sonia Gandhi to make him Working Prime Minister,

when Dr.Man <Mohan Singh was sick. and he claims the all the oppositon

leaders are trying to unstable the Government and acting like naxalite.

Are we all are naxalites?We elected the people on our votes.Is the voter,who casted the

vote to the candidate other than INC are naxalites?

Just think on it and may reply,if you wish.

 

Warm regards,

 

Rakshpal Abrol
Consumer Activist
9820203154
rakshpal.abrol@yahoo.co.in

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From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, 4 February, 2011 4:49:50 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: My Grievance concerning the non-disclosure of the National Common Minimum Programme on the website of the NAC

To: Justice K. Nath

Respected Sir

Let me hasten to assure you that your emails are not an intrusion in any way.

Many citizens of India are agitated at the moment over the twin issues of a) corruption. and b) non-hearing of the citizen's voice by State. The outcry against this is taking place in many diverse ways, such as by satyagraha or naxalism etc.

The NAC is not a place for the ordinary citizen's voice to be heard, they have no structural mechanisms in place for this, nor are they likely to put these in place. As a legal luminary you will immediately catch this from the order of Cabinet Secretary dt. May.2004 constituting the NAC. The entire device of NAC is a legal fiction for Ms.Sonia Gandhi to interfere in Govt openly and get access for her private network of Congress-Leftist touts into corridors of power. (You will recall Sir, that the first UPA govt was dependent on Communist support so the NAC was packed with left-leaning Congress stooges). The members who pack the NAC are of 2 varieties - the eminent senior persons who are regrettably all in their 80's and only figure-heads, and the professional 'haramis' who actually do all the dirty work. The NAC at present is therefore a fountain of corruption in India.

Incidentally, all the "eminent" people who approached the Satyagraha brigade on 30th Jan to call off your fasts are part of the 'harami' network. They are all foreign financed touts also working for UPA govt, and they would do anything / say anything to shut down your protest. I think it was unwise to call off your fasts so soon on their say / assurances.

I don't think NAC would listen to me. In any case, I am not a fighter against corruption nor do I waste my time fighting it as an issue. I recognise corruption as a necessary part of the human condition, whilst steeling myself against it to remain pure / above it personally. With 30 years of intense experience fighting cases in person in SC and HC, my tactics are different from ordinary activists.

Lastly, I don't believe that the LOKPAL Bill is a good idea at all. It is just another diversionary device to buy more time and fool the voting masses / angry mobs. The Brigade's 2nd point (barring convicts from fighting elections) is well taken, the third (confiscation) is impractical.

Warmly

Sarbajit Roy
New Delhi

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Justice Kamleshwar Nath <justicekn@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sri Roy,

 

            Pl. excuse me for this intrusion. I learn from your e-mail that NAC is, after all, on line and ideas could be expressed for its consideration. I do not know much about NAC, and may learn through its website; but that would be later.

 

            Here I only wish to know whether NAC has any 'Anti-corruption' agenda. Every one knows now that 30^th Jan 2011 (Martyr Day Anniversary – Gandhiji's martyrdom) rallies were taken out in more than 60 Cities against Govt. of India's inaction on Issues of Corruption and that 7 Satyagrahis (6 of them Freedom Fighters and more than 80 years of age) of Gandhian Satyagraha Brigade, New Delhi, went on FAST-UNTO-DEATH in continuation of Satyagraha since 1^st Jan, after full advance Notice to the Government. The demand of the Brigade was on the Govt. to enact (i) an effective LOKPAL for investigating corruption by public functionaries, (ii) disqualification of persons charged of heinous criminal offences by a Court of Law from contesting Elections and (iii) forfeiture of  property acquired through corrupt/illegal means. Late in the afternoon (of 30^th Jan), the Fast was POSTPONED for 3 months on assurance of the leaders of the rally which started from Ramlila Grounds and went up to the site of Fast to promote and strengthen the resolve to achieve the 3 demands. Despite all this, not a leaf has stirred – much less any assurance – in the corridors of Power. Would you like to take up this issue with the NAC, because no amount of development projects will bring any good to the people if, in their implementation, the political bureaucracy swallows the fruits through corruption ?

 

            Regards,

                 KN

 

 

 

 

 

From the Desk of :

Justice Kamleshwar Nath

Retd.	:	Up-Lokayukta ( Karnataka ), Vice Chairman – C.A.T ( Allahabad ), Judge – High Court ( Lucknow & Allahabad )
Address	:	`Gunjan', C - 105, Niralanagar, Lucknow : 226 020. Uttar Pradesh, India
Phone(s)	:	+91-522-2789033 & +91-522-4016459. Mobile : +91-9415010746

 

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From: humjanenge@googlegroups.com [mailto:humjanenge@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:58 PM
To: Office NAC; ritasharma.secy@nac.nic.in; secy_mop@nic.in; jsata@nic.in; dirrti-dopt@nic.in; humjanenge
Subject: [HumJanenge] Re: My Grievance concerning the non-disclosure of the National Common Minimum Programme on the website of the NAC

 

To:
The National Advisory Council, by
the Joint Secretary

03-Feb-2011

Dear Mr Raju,
cc: Ms. Rita Sharma/Secy/NAC for directions
 
Many thanks for your email in reply,

Kindly note the correct spelling of my name as was given in my referred email as "Sarbajit Roy" for future correspondence.

I beg to state that my grievance was clearly stated to be in the context of "constitution, functions, duties and procedures etc for the National Advisory Council." (all to be declared under RTI suo-moto)  As per the documents published on NAC website so far concerning the constitution of NAC, specifically the Cabinet Secretariat orders of 31.May.2004 and 29.March.2010, it appears to me that the present NAC ("NAC-2") is constituted "in pursuance of" the order of 31.May.2004 for the 2 purposes specified therein. The first purpose being for NCMP and the second for providing inputs / support on Govt policy and legislative business respectively.

I was therefore surprised to see from the initial Minutes of Meeting of NAC-2 that the members have arrogated to themselves powers inconsistent with the objectives for which NAC-2 was constituted on 29.May.2010 as specified in the CabSec order. Instead they have broadly referred to unspecified portions of a speech of her Excellency Madam President to Parliament as being the focus/vision of the NAC. It is not clear to me how the NAC is legally empowered to set its own agenda, and I seek clarity from you on this aspect. As it was very well known on 29.May.2010 that UPA-II does not have a NCMP, this could have been clarified in the CabSec order of even date itself by specifying "flagship programmes of Govt" for NCMP..

As a citizen of India, who is being invited by NAC-2 to participate  in processes such as submitting comments and objections to proposed legislations like Food Security Bill, Communal Violence Bill etc being drafted by NAC-2, it is mandatory for NAC-2 to completely inform me of the "constitution, functions, duties and procedures etc for the National Advisory Council". The information on the NAC-2 website is incomplete, half-baked and evasive. No reasonable person can meaningfully participate under conditions of such information denial. This information evasion further confirms the words of the Hon'ble Prime Minister I had set out, viz. that NAC-2 is the instrument for Congress Party activists to participate in Government. The necessary converse is that persons not associated with Congress Party have no place in NAC-2's scheme of things and shall be subjected to information asymmetry and discrimination .

Accordingly, I clearly call upon you to inform me immediately the underlying basis (ie. Govt documents)  for the following claims in the VISION on NAC website, so that I may submit my comments on NAC's various time bound public processes referred above. I am especially interested in the source of powers of NAC and their delegation to and exercise by NAC, its officers, Chairperson  and members (such as I had described for Ms. Aruna Roy).

1) "NAC has been set up as an interface with Civil Society."

2) "The NAC would also give attention to the priorities stated in the address of the President of India to Parliament on 4 June, 2009."

3) "In addition, the NAC would review the flagship programmes of the Government and suggest measures to address any constraints in their implementation and delivery."

Looking forward to your prompt reply.

Yours faithfully

Sarbajit Roy
New Delhi

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Office NAC <office.nac@nac.nic.in> wrote:

Dear S. Roy,

 

 

                        This has reference to your email addressed to Secretary, NAC dated 1.2.2011 bearing the subject "My Grievance concerning the non disclosure of the National Common Minimum Programme on the website of the NAC".

 

                        With reference to the grievance you have referred to in your email, I would like to inform you that NAC's vision statement does not refer to National Common Minimum Programme as there is no National Common Minimum Programme for UPA-II

 

 

                        This is for your information.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Sd/ 

(K. Raju)

Joint Secretary

 

Shri Sarabjit Ray

 

RE: [HumJanenge] Fwd: FW: Press Release

Dear Sheetal ji,

 

            Thanks a lot. We are regular viewers of INDIA TV (including Rajat ji’s ‘Aap-ki-Adalat’). I shall try to write to you as and when the occasion arises.

 

            Regards,

                  KN

 

 

 

 

 

From the Desk of :

Justice Kamleshwar Nath

Retd.	:	Up-Lokayukta ( Karnataka ), Vice Chairman – C.A.T ( Allahabad ), Judge – High Court ( Lucknow & Allahabad )
Address	:	`Gunjan', C - 105, Niralanagar, Lucknow : 226 020. Uttar Pradesh, India
Phone(s)	:	+91-522-2789033 & +91-522-4016459. Mobile : +91-9415010746

 

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From: humjanenge@googlegroups.com [mailto:humjanenge@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mail
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:47 PM
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] Fwd: FW: Press Release

 

Dear Viewer

Thanks for writing to INDIA TV. This is to inform you that your mail has been forwarded to the concerned producer.

Stay tuned to India TV. Do keep writing to us with your views and suggestions.

Thanks and Regards,

Sheetal

Response Executive.

 

 

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From: humjanenge@googlegroups.com [mailto:humjanenge@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:43 PM
To: humjanenge
Subject: [HumJanenge] Fwd: FW: Press Release

 

Message is fwded to HJ as per request of Justice Nath

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Justice Kamleshwar Nath <justicekn@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:31 PM
Subject: FW: Press Release

Dear All,

This 'Forwarded' Mail tells about the of events of FAST-UNTO-DEATH on
30.1.2011 by mentioned Satyagrahis of Gandhian Satyagraha Brigade.

To Sri Roy, it is in continuation of an earlier E-mail sent by me to him
just a few minutes ago.

       Regards,
             KN

From the Desk of :

Justice Kamleshwar Nath
Retd.
: Up-Lokayukta ( Karnataka ), Vice Chairman - C.A.T ( Allahbad ),
 Judge - High Court ( Lucknow & Allahbad )
Address
:
`Gunjan', C - 105, Niralanagar, Lucknow : 226 020. Uttar Pradesh, India
GANDHIAN SEVA & SATYAGRAHA BRIGADE
An All India NGO of Gandhian Persuasion, Registered Under the
Societies Registration Act, 1860
LAJPAT BHAWAN, LAJPAT NAGAR-IV,
NEW DELHI - 110 024

              February 3, 2011
                                                PRESS RELEASE

Our five Satyagrahis, namely Sh. Shambu Duttji (93) & Ms R.S. Devi
(84), Gandhians, who participated in 1942 Quit India movement and were
imprisoned, and Sh. Murari Lal (90), Sh. Amarnath (89) and Sh E James
Rajasekaran started their Fast-unto-Death on 30th of Jan. at
Jantarmantar to demand (i) Appointment of an effective Lokpal,
repeatedly committed by major political parties, (ii) Disqualification
of the candidates seeking election to Parliament and State
Legislatures against whom serious criminal cases are pending (as
recommended by four Chief Election Commissioners) and (iii)
Confiscation of illegally acquired property of public servants
including Ministers, MPs and MLAs & their benami transactions. Through
out the day, hundreds of people from all walks of life and from
different parts of the country visited them. Sh Shambu Duttji and
other Gandhians were requested the whole day for interviews from
number of journalists and admirers. Renowned journalist Shri Kuldeep
Nayar also visited Gandhians to extend his wholehearted support for
the cause.

We are coordinating with 'India Against Corruption' in this crusade
and the undersigned attended its meetings. Sh Arvind Kejriwal had
asked us to request the Satyagrahis to postpone their fast which
started from Jan. 30th since it clashed with their rally to which we
had expressed our reservation and told them that Satyagrahis' resolve
would in fact support their cause. Justice Sachar had a talk with
Swami Agnivesh who told me that he along with Kiran Bedi, Arvind
Kejriwal, Father Dominique, Teachers from Art of Living, Acharya from
Baba Ramdev Sect and many others would come to pay respect to these
Satyagrahis. He further informed that they planned to request
Satyagrahis to end their fast unto death since they all had resolved
to pursue the demand for Lokpal Bill with full force and public
support. In view of this development, I consulted all the members of
the working committee present at Jantarmantar (namely, Dr. Y.P. Anand,
Justice Rajindar Sachar, Shri R. Srinivasan, Shri B.R. Lall, Shri R.K.
Khandelwal, Shri Bhagvanji Raiyani, Prof Jagdeep Chhokar, Dr S K
Agarwal, Col. Karan Kharb and Shri P.S. Bawa) to know their views
about our proposed stand in case we were confronted with the situation
where all the above said persons along with hundreds of their
supporters made a request to Satyagrahis to break their
Fast-unto-Death. Every one thought that it would be extremely arrogant
if we don't agree with their request and for better support to the
cause it was definitely much wiser to put a joint front with the other
organisations pursuing the same cause. One member had a different
opinion but he too was quite concerned about the health of the
Satyagrahis. Advocate Prashant Bhushan and Justice Tewatia also came
to Jantarmantar to pay respect to Satyagrahis and they also requested
them to end their fast.  At about 6 pm on Jan. 30, all the above said
persons along with their supporters came to Jantarmantar and made a
passionate plea to the Satyagrahis to end their fast. Swami Agnivesh
told the gathering that since they all had taken up the cause to
demand an effective Lokpal Bill, the Satyagrahis therefore should not
continue their fast. Kiran Bedi also made a passionate and forceful
plea to Shri Shambhu Dutta Ji by saying, ' I am sitting at your feet
and will not get up till you end your fast'. Shri Shambu Dutt ji
explained to the gathering how we had been fighting for an effective
Lokpal and other two demands for the last so many years. He further
explained the background in which they were forced to undertake the
extreme step. The undersigned then informed the decision of the
Working Committee and others to the Satyagrahis to postpone their
fast. Justice Sachar, other members of the Working Committee, namely
Dr. Y P Anand Vice Chairman, Dr. SK Agarwal, Sh  PS Bawa and Col
Kharab also personally requested fasting Satyagrahis to postpone the
fast. Shri Shambu Dutta Ji then informed the gathering that because of
his love and respect for Swami Agnivesh, Kiran Bedi and others, he
would postpone the Fast-unto-Death for three months and hoped that
they would do their best to force the government to present an
effective Lokpal Bill at the earliest. Hundreds of people from all
walks of life clapped and welcomed this decision. Swami Agnivesh and
Kiran Bedi then offered  biscuits to the Satyagrahis to break their
fast. The undersigned thanked all for their support and commitment for
the cause and the gathering dispersed with lot of jubilations. The
month long Sataygraha that started on 1st of Jan 2011 with relay
hunger strike finished at Jantarmantar with a firm resolve to carry
forward the struggle with more zeal and gusto. The next morning the
undersigned briefed the GSSB Chairman Justice Kamleshwar Nath who
appreciated and approved the proceedings held on 30th Jan.
Ashok Arora
Hony General Secretary, GSSB

 

Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months

It is wrong. We will fight for this illegal decision by CIC. CIC is
not the decision making nor ammendment authority of this Act because
the RTI Act 2005 is the Act of Parliament. It is most necessary to
aware about this decision amongst general public and RTI activists
especially.

Gopal Prasad (RTI Activist)
House No. 210, Street No. 3,
Pal Mohalla, Mandawali
Delhi - 110092
Mob: 09540650860

2011/2/5, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>:
> It is short-sightness to presume that if a case is solved, the decision has
> became redundant.  Because of this fact, the decisions are being uploaded on
> the website as the  same decision will be applicable on the cases with
> similar facts and complaints.  Same will also be useful for CPIO/ Public
> Authorities as well as to the public.
>
> Mr. Kamal Shah, I inform you that some decisions taken early, as I pointed
> out in my earlier emails, are not available on the website or say have been
> removed/ deleted.
>
> The argument that a single fire can vanish this decision.  If we buy this
> argument, there is no need to maintain any records in any office.  This may
> also urge some vicarious minded person to ignate fire to get rid the
> records.  In income tax, we have seen fire in many years and that has caused
> loss of unimaginable amount to the govt. exchequre by way of being not
> able to follow tax  demands and cases in the court and IT tribunal.
>
> I am going to write to CCIC for re-loading the removed and deletged
> decisions again on the CIC website.   If required, can also file an RTI
> appln raising query about the identify of the officials on whose orders old
> decision were removed from the website and some allied queries.  If some
> other members also undertake such an exercise, issue will carry more weight
> and seriousness.
>
> --- On Sat, 5/2/11, Kamal Shah <kshah623@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
>
> From: Kamal Shah <kshah623@yahoo.co.in>
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6
> months
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 5 February, 2011, 2:00 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It's perfectly ok once the decision is given by the CIC there is no need to
> sit on a paper jungle which can vanish with a single flame of fire .
> The  signed Orders should atleast be archived on the CIC website .
>
> Regards,
>
> Kamal Shah
> --- On Mon, 31/1/11, Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6
> months
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, 31 January, 2011, 4:58 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The RTI superseed each act.  Then as per RTI, the record must preserve for
> 20 years.  How the circular is leagl issued by CIC?
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Hari Goyal <haridgoyal@hotmail.com>
> To: Vishal Kudchadkar <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>; Sarbajit Roy
> <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 4:16:10 PM
> Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6
> months
>
>
>
> Dear Mr. Roy,
>
> Is this decision relates to those cases which stand solved to the
> satisfaction of the appellant?
>
> I have case decided by Mr. Sharma on 31.03.2009 and asked DDA to supply me
> information within 10 days
> but so far information has not been supplied by the DDA despite writing to
> DDA vice-Chairman and hairman also.
> The matter was simultanously taken up to Chief Information Commissioner Mr.
> Wajahat Habibullah and his successor
> Mr. A. N. Tiwari besides Mr. Sharma. What will be the fate of this CIC order
> of 31st March, 2009?
>
> Another case was filed by me on about FIVE Nmonths back. No date of hearing
> has been fixed. There is no hope for next
> 2-3 months of its hearing. What will be the fate of this case also?
>
> There seems to be all round confusion.
>
> Hari Goyal
> 31.01.2011
>
>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:00:57 +0530
>> Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6
>> months
>> From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
>> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>>
>> The CIC has decided that all case files older than 6 months shall be
>> destroyed.
>>
>> (Source: Minutes of meeting dated 04.Jan.2011).
>>
>> Brought to you in public interest by your favourite moderator.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months

It is short-sightness to presume that if a case is solved, the decision has became redundant.  Because of this fact, the decisions are being uploaded on the website as the  same decision will be applicable on the cases with similar facts and complaints.  Same will also be useful for CPIO/ Public Authorities as well as to the public.   Mr. Kamal Shah, I inform you that some decisions taken early, as I pointed out in my earlier emails, are not available on the website or say have been removed/ deleted.    The argument that a single fire can vanish this decision.  If we buy this argument, there is no need to maintain any records in any office.  This may also urge some vicarious minded person to ignate fire to get rid the records.  In income tax, we have seen fire in many years and that has caused loss of unimaginable amount to the govt. exchequre by way of being not able to follow tax  demands and cases in the court and IT tribunal.    I am going to write to CCIC for re-loading the removed and deletged decisions again on the CIC website.   If required, can also file an RTI appln raising query about the identify of the officials on whose orders old decision were removed from the website and some allied queries.  If some other members also undertake such an exercise, issue will carry more weight and seriousness.  --- On Sat, 5/2/11, Kamal Shah <kshah623@yahoo.co.in> wrote: From: Kamal Shah <kshah623@yahoo.co.in> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 5 February, 2011, 2:00 PM It's perfectly ok once the decision is given by the CIC there is no need to sit on a paper jungle which can vanish with a single flame of fire . The  signed Orders should atleast be archived on the CIC website . Regards,   Kamal Shah --- On Mon, 31/1/11, Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, 31 January, 2011, 4:58 PM The RTI superseed each act.  Then as per RTI, the record must preserve for 20 years.  How the circular is leagl issued by CIC? From: Hari Goyal <haridgoyal@hotmail.com> To: Vishal Kudchadkar <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>; Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 4:16:10 PM Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months Dear Mr. Roy,   Is this decision relates to those cases which stand solved to the satisfaction of the appellant?   I have case decided by Mr. Sharma on 31.03.2009 and asked DDA to supply me information within 10 days but so far information has not been supplied by the DDA despite writing to DDA vice-Chairman and hairman also. The matter was simultanously taken up to Chief Information Commissioner Mr. Wajahat Habibullah and his successor Mr. A. N. Tiwari besides Mr. Sharma. What will be the fate of this CIC order of 31st March, 2009?   Another case was filed by me on about FIVE Nmonths back. No date of hearing has been fixed. There is no hope for next 2-3 months of its hearing. What will be the fate of this case also?   There seems to be all round confusion.   Hari Goyal   31.01.2011   > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:00:57 +0530 > Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months > From: sroy.mb@gmail.com > To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com > > The CIC has decided that all case files older than 6 months shall be destroyed. > > (Source: Minutes of meeting dated 04.Jan.2011). > > Brought to you in public interest by your favourite moderator. > > Sarbajit

Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months

It's perfectly ok once the decision is given by the CIC there is no need to sit on a paper jungle which can vanish with a single flame of fire . The  signed Orders should atleast be archived on the CIC website . Regards,   Kamal Shah --- On Mon, 31/1/11, Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, 31 January, 2011, 4:58 PM The RTI superseed each act.  Then as per RTI, the record must preserve for 20 years.  How the circular is leagl issued by CIC? From: Hari Goyal <haridgoyal@hotmail.com> To: Vishal Kudchadkar <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>; Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 4:16:10 PM Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months Dear Mr. Roy,   Is this decision relates to those cases which stand solved to the satisfaction of the appellant?   I have case decided by Mr. Sharma on 31.03.2009 and asked DDA to supply me information within 10 days but so far information has not been supplied by the DDA despite writing to DDA vice-Chairman and hairman also. The matter was simultanously taken up to Chief Information Commissioner Mr. Wajahat Habibullah and his successor Mr. A. N. Tiwari besides Mr. Sharma. What will be the fate of this CIC order of 31st March, 2009?   Another case was filed by me on about FIVE Nmonths back. No date of hearing has been fixed. There is no hope for next 2-3 months of its hearing. What will be the fate of this case also?   There seems to be all round confusion.   Hari Goyal   31.01.2011   > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:00:57 +0530 > Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months > From: sroy.mb@gmail.com > To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com > > The CIC has decided that all case files older than 6 months shall be destroyed. > > (Source: Minutes of meeting dated 04.Jan.2011). > > Brought to you in public interest by your favourite moderator. > > Sarbajit

Re: [HumJanenge] Foundation meeting for revival of Khudai Khidmatgar

NISAR AHMAD KHAN Azad Shiksha Kendra Mohalla Sipah P.O. Sadar Distt Jaunpur Uttar Pardes INDIA 222001 --- On Mon, 15/11/10, Faisal khan <cpchindia@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Faisal khan <cpchindia@yahoo.com> Subject: [HumJanenge] Foundation meeting for revival of Khudai Khidmatgar To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, 15 November, 2010, 1:03 AM --      Foundation meeting of Khudai Khidmatgar   Dear All,     We feel immense pleasure in reviving this movement called Khudai Khidmatgarwith minor changes which we strongly believe will mark its significance in History. And will work as a lighting conductor in this situation of crisis towards making a human society based on peace and justice. Khudai Khidmatgar is being formally launched with the objective of working towards a just humane order which will be free of discriminations between human beings based on race, class, caste, religion, culture, gender, age, nationality, education, political or millitary/muscle power, or any other such category. Khudai Khidmatgar is not just an organization rather it's a symbol and movement, we all know that Frontier Gandhi Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan had established this organization with a progressive  vision.  We initiated this process in 2008; we believe materialism, commercialization and individualism have badly affected social organizations and has penetrated its roots in social activism.  In such critical circumstances where social activism is losing its credibility, time calls for all those to come together and join hands who believe in the cause of humanity, truthfulness and just social order. We are working towards bringing out people from all parts country, different parts of life,Who are not in the lime light  though working with full commitment and dedication at the grass root for humanity and justice.             We initiated this process in Dec 2008, since then we have been meeting people from all sections of the society including youth, social activists, Gandhians  ,women organizations, religious leaders etc. the response which we got from these groups have been have been extra ordinarily remarkable which in sighted our strength to come up formally in the form of an organization It has been decided that  on  6-7 Feb.2011 we are going to organize Foundation meeting of Khudai Khitmadgar. The meeting will discuss nature and structure of the group and a coordination committee will also be formed to look after the functioning of the group. We will warmly welcome your suggestions, guidance, advices and any kind of help as much as you can.we will keep on updating you with further details    regards On behalf of national organizing committee Faisal Khan   National organising commitee:-     Mohd Dyan –Assam,  Mohd Rizwan –Bihar,   Mohd Kalimullah-Bihar , Sajjad Kargili-J&K, Mohd Abaid –Rajsthan, Ms. Qamar jahan –UP, Dr Raja Muzaffar -J&K, R.Kauser ---West Bengal , M.ahmed -Hrayana  Jabir boga –Gujarat,  Dr. Kush kumar singh –Karnatka,  Ms Sanat Adil –Haryana, Azad shaikh –Maharashtra,   Mohd Anwar –Tamilnadu, M. Amajd --Manipur ,  S.Aali akhter – Delhi,  Mahbub subhani -- Aandhra pardesh, Ms.Maryam – Delhi, S. Rishad iqmal – Orissa,   Chudhry Akarm – UP, Gufarn    khan – UP, Suresh bhai – UP, Haji Dost Mohammed- MP, M. Tajuddin  --Kerala,  MAULANA FATEH MOHD NADVI – UP,  SHAMSUREHAMN -- ASSAM , -ASAD ASHRAF --- BIHAR ,Abhisar sar Mandal -MP , FAZLUR REHMAN -- CAHTTISGARH , GURVINDER SINGH --- Delhi, Mohd Murslaeen – Punjab, Arvind murty -   UP, NASREEN BAHN - GUJRAT ,   Shabul haque - j&K,   shahbaz saheb -Bihar , Munna jha -   JHARKHAND,Tanzil - west Bengal, Dr Zakia akhter – DELHI,  Niraj- Bihar, Shah Alam- UP. Kaunain Haider- Haryana ,zahid khan-Delhi,shaeen ansari, Delhi          --  National  Secratariat Khudai Khidmatgar 24/84,Friends Appartment,Ghaffar Manzil Jamia Nagar,New Delhi-110025 Kalimullah +919868619699, +919313106745