To:
The Hon'ble LG of Delhi
through Secretary to LG
cc: Commissioner of Delhi Police
cc: Members of India Against Corruption jan andolan
BY EMAIL
Your Excellency
I am caused to complain that the Delhi Police Traffic Unit (North East
District) represented by its ACP was corruptly induced to let off
against token challan the vehicle of Mr. Manish Sisodia, who
represents himself in media to be Deputy Chief Minister of Delhi,
after it was caught after a lengthy high speed chase to avoid arrest
on or around June 12 2015 - as reported in national media.
Accordingly, and on behalf of India Against Corruption people's
movement, I complain as follows:-
It deserves statutory inquiry to determine why the expensive advanced
interceptor vehicles, such as powerful motorcycles, of Delhi Police
could not stop / catch up with the fleeing offender's vehicle, and the
fleeing vehicle was fortunately stopped by members of the public at
great personal risk near Wazirabad barrage, enabling the vehicle to be
nabbed by Delhi Police.
It deserves statutory inquiry to determine why the vehicle of this
fleeing offender was not searched and/or impounded by the local
police.
It deserves statutory inquiry to determine why the driver / owner of
this fleeing offender was not arrested and produced before the
magistrate for commission of cognisable offence/s under Indian Penal
Code. Furthermore, ought not the local police thana to have taken over
the matter to prosecute the IPC offences ?
It deserves statutory inquiry to determine if any police officer/s or
personal security officer/s were present within the vehicle at the
time of the offences, and why they did not report / stop the offences
being committed in their presence.
It deserves statutory inquiry to determine if any police officer/s
instructed the challaning officer/s to let off the vehicle against a
token compounding fee of Rs. 400 only for minor offence of speeding,
or whether the challaning officer allowed himself to be charmed by the
vehicle's occupant/s, its red light/beacon, its special registration
number - and thereby corrupted for personal gain.
It deserves statutory inquiry to determine if the offence of
over-speeding accompanied by fleeing from the scene to avoid
prosecution can be compounded at all only under Motor Vehicles Act in
the facts and circumstances of the matter as widely reported.
It deserves statutory inquiry to determine if the vehicle and/or its
occupants were involved in commission of any other offence.
It deserves a statutory inquiry to ascertain how the offence was
compounded for Rs. 400 when the prescribed compounding fee of GoNCTD
is Rs. 360 for this offence. It needs to be ascertained where the
excess Rs. 40 has been paid / who has pocketed it.
Kindly take cognisance of my complaint as narrated above and ensure
that action under law is taken and also the corrupt officers involved
are identified and charge-sheeted.
NB: The Delhi Police anti-corruption help-line no. 1064 has today
morning expressed its inability to record my complaint in such a high
profile case.
sincerely
Er. Sarbajit Roy
B-59 Defence Colony
New Delhi 110024
Tel : 08010205897 (Mob)
Re: [IAC#RG] DELHI POLICEMAN WHO STOPPED SPEEDING CAR OF DELHI DY. C M
On 6/20/15, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
> To>
> India Against Corruption
>
>
> * DELHI POLICEMAN WHO
> STOPPED SPEEDING CAR OF DELHI DY. C M*
>
>
> *It is extremely gratifying to know that a traffic policeman in Delhi had
> the courage of conviction to stop the speeding car of Delhi Dy.C.M and he
> issued a challan of Rs.400/- to the driver who had to pay the fine , while
> the Dy.C.M. simply watched helplessly. Certainly, the act of this traffic
> policeman need to be recognised and his act must be commended by every one
> who decry VIP culture in the country. *
>
> *Many feel strongly about the arrogant behaviour of so called VVIP s (very
> very irritating people) and VIPs (very irritating people) but do
> nothing. They have a lesson or two to learn from this courageous Delhi
> traffic policeman, who now looks like a role model for other crusaders.*
>
> *Why did the Delhi Dy.C.M allow his driver to drive beyond the permissible
> speed limit ? Is he not aware of the rule or he thought that being a
> Dy.C.M, he can violate all rules. Perhaps, he thought that no traffic
> policeman would dare to stop his car. But, we have a traffic policeman who
> had the courage to do so. *
>
> *Those politicians who talk about aam aadmi all the time but conduct
> themselves as if they have come from heaven , should know that day is not
> far off when real aam aadmi would assert himself towards the cause of
> restoring probity in public life and responsible behaviour amongst those
> in power.*
>
>
> *N.S.Venkataraman*
>
> *Nandini Voice For The Deprived*
>
> *Email:- nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com>*
>
> * nandinivoice.org <http://nandinivoice.org>*
>
Saturday, June 20, 2015
Re: [IAC#RG] DELHI POLICEMAN WHO STOPPED SPEEDING CAR OF DELHI DY. C M
Indeed the police man needs to be commended for his action.
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ToIndia Against CorruptionDELHI POLICEMAN WHO STOPPED SPEEDING CAR OF DELHI DY. C M
It is extremely gratifying to know that a traffic policeman in Delhi had the courage of conviction to stop the speeding car of Delhi Dy.C.M and he issued a challan of Rs.400/- to the driver who had to pay the fine , while the Dy.C.M. simply watched helplessly. Certainly, the act of this traffic policeman need to be recognised and his act must be commended by every one who decry VIP culture in the country.
Many feel strongly about the arrogant behaviour of so called VVIP s (very very irritating people) and VIPs (very irritating people) but do nothing. They have a lesson or two to learn from this courageous Delhi traffic policeman, who now looks like a role model for other crusaders.
Why did the Delhi Dy.C.M allow his driver to drive beyond the permissible speed limit ? Is he not aware of the rule or he thought that being a Dy.C.M, he can violate all rules. Perhaps, he thought that no traffic policeman would dare to stop his car. But, we have a traffic policeman who had the courage to do so.
Those politicians who talk about aam aadmi all the time but conduct themselves as if they have come from heaven , should know that day is not far off when real aam aadmi would assert himself towards the cause of restoring probity in public life and responsible behaviour amongst those in power.
N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice For The Deprived
Email:- nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com
[IAC#RG] DELHI POLICEMAN WHO STOPPED SPEEDING CAR OF DELHI DY. C M
To
India Against Corruption
DELHI POLICEMAN WHO STOPPED SPEEDING CAR OF DELHI DY. C M
It is extremely gratifying to know that a traffic policeman in Delhi had the courage of conviction to stop the speeding car of Delhi Dy.C.M and he issued a challan of Rs.400/- to the driver who had to pay the fine , while the Dy.C.M. simply watched helplessly. Certainly, the act of this traffic policeman need to be recognised and his act must be commended by every one who decry VIP culture in the country.
Many feel strongly about the arrogant behaviour of so called VVIP s (very very irritating people) and VIPs (very irritating people) but do nothing. They have a lesson or two to learn from this courageous Delhi traffic policeman, who now looks like a role model for other crusaders.
Why did the Delhi Dy.C.M allow his driver to drive beyond the permissible speed limit ? Is he not aware of the rule or he thought that being a Dy.C.M, he can violate all rules. Perhaps, he thought that no traffic policeman would dare to stop his car. But, we have a traffic policeman who had the courage to do so.
Those politicians who talk about aam aadmi all the time but conduct themselves as if they have come from heaven , should know that day is not far off when real aam aadmi would assert himself towards the cause of restoring probity in public life and responsible behaviour amongst those in power.
N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice For The Deprived
Email:- nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com
Friday, June 19, 2015
Re: [IAC#RG] अखिलेश के गढ़ आकर हक़ मांगेगा 'आरटीआई रत्न' गुरु प्रसाद का परिवार। बहरे अखिलेश को आवाज सुनाकर हक़ लेने के लिए सोशल मीडिया पत्रकार जागेन्द्र सिंह के परिवार को भी लखनऊ बुलाकर धरने पर बैठाने को प्रयासरत है सामाजिक संगठन 'येश्वर्याज' .
We journalist & Press club of India members of delhi also protested against this murder and sopport whole heartedly for this cause. Regards Pramod Pushkarna
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 6:03 PM, urvashi sharma <rtimahilamanchup@gmail.com> wrote:
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लखनऊ. 17 जून 2015. Press Note
शाहजहाँपुर के सोशल मीडिया पत्रकार जागेन्द्र सिंह और बहराइच के
.'आरटीआई रत्न' गुरु प्रसाद की निर्मम हत्या की घटनाओं ने पूरे देश को
उद्देलित कर दिया है. अब यह मुद्दे राष्ट्रीय मुद्दे बन गए हैं. उत्तर
प्रदेश ही नहीं दिल्ली समेत अनेकों राज्यों के समाजसेवी इन मामलों में
पूर्ण न्याय के लिए आवाज बुलंद कर रहे हैं.
यूपी के बहराइच जिले के हरदीगौरा ग्राम के आरटीआई कार्यकर्ता गुरु
प्रसाद की निर्मम हत्या से आक्रोशित हुए सूबे के आरटीआई कार्यकर्ताओं ने
कल उत्तर प्रदेश की राजधानी लखनऊ के हज़रतगंज जीपीओ स्थित गांधी पार्क
में धरना प्रदर्शन किया था और अखिलेश सरकार और उत्तर प्रदेश राज्य
सूचना आयोग को जमकर कोसा था .आरटीआई कार्यकर्ताओं का कहना था कि
अखिलेशराज अब गुंडाराज में परिवर्तित हो चुका है जिसमें गुरुप्रसाद जैसे
लोकतन्त्र-सेनानियों की निर्मम हत्याएं की जा रहीं हैं. आज ऐसा ही
प्रदर्शन झारखण्ड में हो रहा है.
गौरतलब है कि हाल ही में बीते 18 अप्रैल को सामाजिक संस्था येश्वर्याज
सेवा संस्थान द्वारा लखनऊ में आयोजित राष्ट्रीय आरटीआई सेमीनार में
गुरुप्रसाद को उनके सामाजिक योगदानों के लिए 'विष्णु दत्त मिश्रा
मेमोरियल आरटीआई रत्न सम्मान 2015' से सम्मानित किया गया था.कार्यक्रम
में आये गुरुप्रसाद ने राज्य सूचना आयोग को आरटीआई कार्यकर्ताओं के जीवन
के लिए सबसे बड़ा खतरा बताया था. गुरु प्रसाद का कहना था कि सूचना
आयुक्तों द्वारा लोकसेवकों से दुरभि संधि स्थापित कर सूचना दिलाने में
जानबूझकर देरी की जाती है जिसके कारण प्रभावित लोकसेवकों को आरटीआई
कार्यकर्ताओं को प्रताड़ित करने का पर्याप्त समय मिल जाता है. आरटीआई
सम्मान समारोह में गुरुप्रसाद ने बताया था कि एक ग्राम प्रधान की
अनियमितता उजागर कर उसको जेल बिजवा देने और अन्य अनियमितताएं उजागर करने
की बजह से उनको किडनैप कर मारा-पीटा गया था किन्तु आयोग के समक्ष ये सभी
तथ्य रखने पर भी आयोग की कार्यप्रणाली जस की तस था और उनके जीवन को
खतरा बढ़ता जा रहा था.
'आरटीआई रत्न' गुरु प्रसाद की निर्मम हत्या के विरोध में आये आरटीआई
कार्यकर्ताओं ने धरना प्रदर्शन करते हुए सूचना आयोग द्वारा सूचना
दिलाने में देरी को हत्या का प्रमुख कारण बताते हुए पीड़ित परिवार को 25
लाख का मुआवजा और परिवार के एक सदस्य को सरकारी नौकरी की मांग की है .
कार्यकर्ताओं ने पीड़ित परिवार की सुरक्षा, घटना की सीबी-सीआईडी
जांच,मृतक की सभी आरटीआई सूचनाओं को सूचना आयोग की वेबसाइट पर 30 दिनों
में सार्वजनिक करने, मृतक की लंबित शिकायतों का निपटारा90 दिन में करने
और उत्तर प्रदेश सूचना आयोग के आयुक्तों द्वारा सूचना दिलाने में और
केंद्र व राज्य सरकार के अधिकारियों द्वारा मृतक केकी शिकायतों के
मामलों के निपटारे में देरी करने के मामले की जांच की मांग भी की है और
इस सम्बन्ध में एक ज्ञापन भी प्रेषित किये हैं।
सामाजिक कार्यकत्री और सामाजिक संस्था येश्वर्याज सेवा संस्थान की सचिव
उर्वशी शर्मा ने बरेली से दूरभाष पर कहा कि महज पांचवी पास भूमिहीन
मजदूर गुरु प्रसाद की हत्या आजाद भारत के लोकतंत्र-रक्षक की हत्या है
और ऐसी हत्याओं से देश में सहभागी लोकतंत्र की स्थापना की मुहिम को
जबरदस्त झटका लगता है. उर्वशी ने बताया कि वे पीड़ित परिवार की
सुरक्षा के प्रति चिंतित है और पीड़ित परिवार से लगातार संपर्क में हैं.
उर्वशी ने बताया कि यदि जून माह के अंत तक ये मांगे नहीं मानी गयीं तो
आगामी जुलाई में उनका संगठन पीड़ित परिवार के साथ लखनऊ में अखिलेश के
गढ़ लखनऊ में अनिश्चितकालीन धरना - प्रदर्शन करेगा।
उर्वशी ने बताया कि शाहजहाँपुर के सोशल मीडिया पत्रकार जागेन्द्र सिंह
का परिवार अभी शाहजहाँपुर में ही धरने पर बैठा है पर यूपी की बाहरी
सरकार कानों के नीचे जूँ तक नहीं रेंग रही है अतः उनका संगठन
येश्वर्याज सेवा संस्थान जागेन्द्र सिंह के परिवार को अखिलेश के गढ़
लखनऊ बुलाकर अपने हक़ की आवाज बुलंद करने के लिए पीड़ित परवार से संपर्क
कर रहा है।
" हमारी योजना अपने साथ 'आरटीआई रत्न' गुरु प्रसाद के परिवार और सोशल
मीडिया पत्रकार जागेन्द्र सिंह के परिवार को लखनऊ बुलाकर धरने पर बैठाकर
सूबे की सपा सरकार को आइना दिखाने की है. इसके लिए उर्वशी अन्य सामाजिक
संगठनों का सहयोग लेने को भी प्रयासरत हैं.
--
-Sincerely Yours,
Urvashi Sharma
Secretary - YAISHWARYAJ SEVA SANSTHAAN
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Re:[IAC#RG]
While agreeing to the opinion of Sri Rodrigues, I want to make an observation. Having seen the words of Churchill on state of Democratic process in post independent India coming true, I believe that unless an effective system of election process is put into practice, corruption and incompetence are bound to be more of a rule.
Regards RN Radhakrishnan
On 20-Jun-2015 8:08 am, "Aires Rodrigues" <airesrodrigues1@gmail.com> wrote:
SAFEGUARDING JUDICIAL POSITIONS FROM THE POLITICAL ROT
By Aires Rodrigues
While the Supreme Court is currently adjudicating the vexed issue of selection of Supreme Court and High Court judges, it would be appropriate to also lay down the procedure and protocol for the selection to the High Constitutional posts of Attorney General, Solicitor General and the Advocate General in the States.
These alike the selection of Judges should not be choiced chums of politicians. The best and balanced legal brains need to be appointed after a check by the Intelligence Bureau on their antecedents as done in the case of High Court Judges. The last two Advocate Generals of Goa Subodh Kantak and Atmaram Nadkarni have been a living disaster and a laughing stock for the State. On these 'political play-boys' less said the better.
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[IAC#RG]
SAFEGUARDING JUDICIAL POSITIONS FROM THE POLITICAL ROT
By Aires Rodrigues
While the Supreme Court is currently adjudicating the vexed issue of selection of Supreme Court and High Court judges, it would be appropriate to also lay down the procedure and protocol for the selection to the High Constitutional posts of Attorney General, Solicitor General and the Advocate General in the States.
These alike the selection of Judges should not be choiced chums of politicians. The best and balanced legal brains need to be appointed after a check by the Intelligence Bureau on their antecedents as done in the case of High Court Judges. The last two Advocate Generals of Goa Subodh Kantak and Atmaram Nadkarni have been a living disaster and a laughing stock for the State. On these 'political play-boys' less said the better.
Thursday, June 18, 2015
Re: [IAC#RG] FW: FW: WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY , CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING
I agree with you.
Dr N C Jain
On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:01 PM, vasant sardesai <vasant_sardesai@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
In India, at least morality and ethics should have been common for all Indians irrespective of religions we follow, but unfortunately it is not so. In fact, now-a-day nobody bothers for these subjects. Our present education is mainly profession oriented and gives stress on all other subjects other than such primary subjects which makes and teaches one to become a human being from a living creature which we otherwise are.What we are seeing to-day in the society is the result of such education.
V. S. Sardesai
Wednesday, June 17, 2015
[IAC#RG] अच्छे दिन
अच्छे दिन
…………
भ्रष्ट व्यवस्था में डूबी
पुराने दलों की सरकारें,
किसान कर रहे खुदकुसी
जन जन त्राहीमाम पुकारें।
आंकड़ों में विकास दिखाते
महँगाई - गरीबी बढती जाय,
लुभावने जुमलों में फंसकर
जनता ने फिर धोखा खाय ।
निराश सारे देश की जनता
सरकार के दिन गिन गिन,
भ्रष्टाचार मुक्त विकास के,
कब आएँगे अच्छे दिन ?
Om.Onkar. Allâh.God…..
ॐ.ੴ.الله .† …….
Jai Hind! Jai Jagat (Universe)!
- ग़ुलाम कुन्दनम्
कार्यकर्ता, आम आदमी पार्टी, बिहार ।
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भ्रष्ट व्यवस्था में डूबी
पुराने दलों की सरकारें,
किसान कर रहे खुदकुसी
जन जन त्राहीमाम पुकारें।
आंकड़ों में विकास दिखाते
महँगाई - गरीबी बढती जाय,
लुभावने जुमलों में फंसकर
जनता ने फिर धोखा खाय ।
निराश सारे देश की जनता
सरकार के दिन गिन गिन,
भ्रष्टाचार मुक्त विकास के,
कब आएँगे अच्छे दिन ?
Om.Onkar. Allâh.God…..
ॐ.ੴ.الله .† …….
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[IAC#RG] अखिलेश के गढ़ आकर हक़ मांगेगा 'आरटीआई रत्न' गुरु प्रसाद का परिवार। बहरे अखिलेश को आवाज सुनाकर हक़ लेने के लिए सोशल मीडिया पत्रकार जागेन्द्र सिंह के परिवार को भी लखनऊ बुलाकर धरने पर बैठाने को प्रयासरत है सामाजिक संगठन 'येश्वर्याज' .
लखनऊ. 17 जून 2015. Press Note
शाहजहाँपुर के सोशल मीडिया पत्रकार जागेन्द्र सिंह और बहराइच के
.'आरटीआई रत्न' गुरु प्रसाद की निर्मम हत्या की घटनाओं ने पूरे देश को
उद्देलित कर दिया है. अब यह मुद्दे राष्ट्रीय मुद्दे बन गए हैं. उत्तर
प्रदेश ही नहीं दिल्ली समेत अनेकों राज्यों के समाजसेवी इन मामलों में
पूर्ण न्याय के लिए आवाज बुलंद कर रहे हैं.
यूपी के बहराइच जिले के हरदीगौरा ग्राम के आरटीआई कार्यकर्ता गुरु
प्रसाद की निर्मम हत्या से आक्रोशित हुए सूबे के आरटीआई कार्यकर्ताओं ने
कल उत्तर प्रदेश की राजधानी लखनऊ के हज़रतगंज जीपीओ स्थित गांधी पार्क
में धरना प्रदर्शन किया था और अखिलेश सरकार और उत्तर प्रदेश राज्य
सूचना आयोग को जमकर कोसा था .आरटीआई कार्यकर्ताओं का कहना था कि
अखिलेशराज अब गुंडाराज में परिवर्तित हो चुका है जिसमें गुरुप्रसाद जैसे
लोकतन्त्र-सेनानियों की निर्मम हत्याएं की जा रहीं हैं. आज ऐसा ही
प्रदर्शन झारखण्ड में हो रहा है.
गौरतलब है कि हाल ही में बीते 18 अप्रैल को सामाजिक संस्था येश्वर्याज
सेवा संस्थान द्वारा लखनऊ में आयोजित राष्ट्रीय आरटीआई सेमीनार में
गुरुप्रसाद को उनके सामाजिक योगदानों के लिए 'विष्णु दत्त मिश्रा
मेमोरियल आरटीआई रत्न सम्मान 2015' से सम्मानित किया गया था.कार्यक्रम
में आये गुरुप्रसाद ने राज्य सूचना आयोग को आरटीआई कार्यकर्ताओं के जीवन
के लिए सबसे बड़ा खतरा बताया था. गुरु प्रसाद का कहना था कि सूचना
आयुक्तों द्वारा लोकसेवकों से दुरभि संधि स्थापित कर सूचना दिलाने में
जानबूझकर देरी की जाती है जिसके कारण प्रभावित लोकसेवकों को आरटीआई
कार्यकर्ताओं को प्रताड़ित करने का पर्याप्त समय मिल जाता है. आरटीआई
सम्मान समारोह में गुरुप्रसाद ने बताया था कि एक ग्राम प्रधान की
अनियमितता उजागर कर उसको जेल बिजवा देने और अन्य अनियमितताएं उजागर करने
की बजह से उनको किडनैप कर मारा-पीटा गया था किन्तु आयोग के समक्ष ये सभी
तथ्य रखने पर भी आयोग की कार्यप्रणाली जस की तस था और उनके जीवन को
खतरा बढ़ता जा रहा था.
'आरटीआई रत्न' गुरु प्रसाद की निर्मम हत्या के विरोध में आये आरटीआई
कार्यकर्ताओं ने धरना प्रदर्शन करते हुए सूचना आयोग द्वारा सूचना
दिलाने में देरी को हत्या का प्रमुख कारण बताते हुए पीड़ित परिवार को 25
लाख का मुआवजा और परिवार के एक सदस्य को सरकारी नौकरी की मांग की है .
कार्यकर्ताओं ने पीड़ित परिवार की सुरक्षा, घटना की सीबी-सीआईडी
जांच,मृतक की सभी आरटीआई सूचनाओं को सूचना आयोग की वेबसाइट पर 30 दिनों
में सार्वजनिक करने, मृतक की लंबित शिकायतों का निपटारा90 दिन में करने
और उत्तर प्रदेश सूचना आयोग के आयुक्तों द्वारा सूचना दिलाने में और
केंद्र व राज्य सरकार के अधिकारियों द्वारा मृतक केकी शिकायतों के
मामलों के निपटारे में देरी करने के मामले की जांच की मांग भी की है और
इस सम्बन्ध में एक ज्ञापन भी प्रेषित किये हैं।
सामाजिक कार्यकत्री और सामाजिक संस्था येश्वर्याज सेवा संस्थान की सचिव
उर्वशी शर्मा ने बरेली से दूरभाष पर कहा कि महज पांचवी पास भूमिहीन
मजदूर गुरु प्रसाद की हत्या आजाद भारत के लोकतंत्र-रक्षक की हत्या है
और ऐसी हत्याओं से देश में सहभागी लोकतंत्र की स्थापना की मुहिम को
जबरदस्त झटका लगता है. उर्वशी ने बताया कि वे पीड़ित परिवार की
सुरक्षा के प्रति चिंतित है और पीड़ित परिवार से लगातार संपर्क में हैं.
उर्वशी ने बताया कि यदि जून माह के अंत तक ये मांगे नहीं मानी गयीं तो
आगामी जुलाई में उनका संगठन पीड़ित परिवार के साथ लखनऊ में अखिलेश के
गढ़ लखनऊ में अनिश्चितकालीन धरना - प्रदर्शन करेगा।
उर्वशी ने बताया कि शाहजहाँपुर के सोशल मीडिया पत्रकार जागेन्द्र सिंह
का परिवार अभी शाहजहाँपुर में ही धरने पर बैठा है पर यूपी की बाहरी
सरकार कानों के नीचे जूँ तक नहीं रेंग रही है अतः उनका संगठन
येश्वर्याज सेवा संस्थान जागेन्द्र सिंह के परिवार को अखिलेश के गढ़
लखनऊ बुलाकर अपने हक़ की आवाज बुलंद करने के लिए पीड़ित परवार से संपर्क
कर रहा है।
" हमारी योजना अपने साथ 'आरटीआई रत्न' गुरु प्रसाद के परिवार और सोशल
मीडिया पत्रकार जागेन्द्र सिंह के परिवार को लखनऊ बुलाकर धरने पर बैठाकर
सूबे की सपा सरकार को आइना दिखाने की है. इसके लिए उर्वशी अन्य सामाजिक
संगठनों का सहयोग लेने को भी प्रयासरत हैं.
--
-Sincerely Yours,
Urvashi Sharma
Secretary - YAISHWARYAJ SEVA SANSTHAAN
101,Narayan Tower, Opposite F block Idgah
Rajajipuram,Lucknow-226017,Uttar Pradesh,India
Contact 9369613513
Right to Information Helpline 8081898081
Helpline Against Corruption 9455553838
http://upcpri.blogspot.in/
Note : if you don't want to receive mails from me,kindly inform me so
that i should delete your name from my mailing list.
शाहजहाँपुर के सोशल मीडिया पत्रकार जागेन्द्र सिंह और बहराइच के
.'आरटीआई रत्न' गुरु प्रसाद की निर्मम हत्या की घटनाओं ने पूरे देश को
उद्देलित कर दिया है. अब यह मुद्दे राष्ट्रीय मुद्दे बन गए हैं. उत्तर
प्रदेश ही नहीं दिल्ली समेत अनेकों राज्यों के समाजसेवी इन मामलों में
पूर्ण न्याय के लिए आवाज बुलंद कर रहे हैं.
यूपी के बहराइच जिले के हरदीगौरा ग्राम के आरटीआई कार्यकर्ता गुरु
प्रसाद की निर्मम हत्या से आक्रोशित हुए सूबे के आरटीआई कार्यकर्ताओं ने
कल उत्तर प्रदेश की राजधानी लखनऊ के हज़रतगंज जीपीओ स्थित गांधी पार्क
में धरना प्रदर्शन किया था और अखिलेश सरकार और उत्तर प्रदेश राज्य
सूचना आयोग को जमकर कोसा था .आरटीआई कार्यकर्ताओं का कहना था कि
अखिलेशराज अब गुंडाराज में परिवर्तित हो चुका है जिसमें गुरुप्रसाद जैसे
लोकतन्त्र-सेनानियों की निर्मम हत्याएं की जा रहीं हैं. आज ऐसा ही
प्रदर्शन झारखण्ड में हो रहा है.
गौरतलब है कि हाल ही में बीते 18 अप्रैल को सामाजिक संस्था येश्वर्याज
सेवा संस्थान द्वारा लखनऊ में आयोजित राष्ट्रीय आरटीआई सेमीनार में
गुरुप्रसाद को उनके सामाजिक योगदानों के लिए 'विष्णु दत्त मिश्रा
मेमोरियल आरटीआई रत्न सम्मान 2015' से सम्मानित किया गया था.कार्यक्रम
में आये गुरुप्रसाद ने राज्य सूचना आयोग को आरटीआई कार्यकर्ताओं के जीवन
के लिए सबसे बड़ा खतरा बताया था. गुरु प्रसाद का कहना था कि सूचना
आयुक्तों द्वारा लोकसेवकों से दुरभि संधि स्थापित कर सूचना दिलाने में
जानबूझकर देरी की जाती है जिसके कारण प्रभावित लोकसेवकों को आरटीआई
कार्यकर्ताओं को प्रताड़ित करने का पर्याप्त समय मिल जाता है. आरटीआई
सम्मान समारोह में गुरुप्रसाद ने बताया था कि एक ग्राम प्रधान की
अनियमितता उजागर कर उसको जेल बिजवा देने और अन्य अनियमितताएं उजागर करने
की बजह से उनको किडनैप कर मारा-पीटा गया था किन्तु आयोग के समक्ष ये सभी
तथ्य रखने पर भी आयोग की कार्यप्रणाली जस की तस था और उनके जीवन को
खतरा बढ़ता जा रहा था.
'आरटीआई रत्न' गुरु प्रसाद की निर्मम हत्या के विरोध में आये आरटीआई
कार्यकर्ताओं ने धरना प्रदर्शन करते हुए सूचना आयोग द्वारा सूचना
दिलाने में देरी को हत्या का प्रमुख कारण बताते हुए पीड़ित परिवार को 25
लाख का मुआवजा और परिवार के एक सदस्य को सरकारी नौकरी की मांग की है .
कार्यकर्ताओं ने पीड़ित परिवार की सुरक्षा, घटना की सीबी-सीआईडी
जांच,मृतक की सभी आरटीआई सूचनाओं को सूचना आयोग की वेबसाइट पर 30 दिनों
में सार्वजनिक करने, मृतक की लंबित शिकायतों का निपटारा90 दिन में करने
और उत्तर प्रदेश सूचना आयोग के आयुक्तों द्वारा सूचना दिलाने में और
केंद्र व राज्य सरकार के अधिकारियों द्वारा मृतक केकी शिकायतों के
मामलों के निपटारे में देरी करने के मामले की जांच की मांग भी की है और
इस सम्बन्ध में एक ज्ञापन भी प्रेषित किये हैं।
सामाजिक कार्यकत्री और सामाजिक संस्था येश्वर्याज सेवा संस्थान की सचिव
उर्वशी शर्मा ने बरेली से दूरभाष पर कहा कि महज पांचवी पास भूमिहीन
मजदूर गुरु प्रसाद की हत्या आजाद भारत के लोकतंत्र-रक्षक की हत्या है
और ऐसी हत्याओं से देश में सहभागी लोकतंत्र की स्थापना की मुहिम को
जबरदस्त झटका लगता है. उर्वशी ने बताया कि वे पीड़ित परिवार की
सुरक्षा के प्रति चिंतित है और पीड़ित परिवार से लगातार संपर्क में हैं.
उर्वशी ने बताया कि यदि जून माह के अंत तक ये मांगे नहीं मानी गयीं तो
आगामी जुलाई में उनका संगठन पीड़ित परिवार के साथ लखनऊ में अखिलेश के
गढ़ लखनऊ में अनिश्चितकालीन धरना - प्रदर्शन करेगा।
उर्वशी ने बताया कि शाहजहाँपुर के सोशल मीडिया पत्रकार जागेन्द्र सिंह
का परिवार अभी शाहजहाँपुर में ही धरने पर बैठा है पर यूपी की बाहरी
सरकार कानों के नीचे जूँ तक नहीं रेंग रही है अतः उनका संगठन
येश्वर्याज सेवा संस्थान जागेन्द्र सिंह के परिवार को अखिलेश के गढ़
लखनऊ बुलाकर अपने हक़ की आवाज बुलंद करने के लिए पीड़ित परवार से संपर्क
कर रहा है।
" हमारी योजना अपने साथ 'आरटीआई रत्न' गुरु प्रसाद के परिवार और सोशल
मीडिया पत्रकार जागेन्द्र सिंह के परिवार को लखनऊ बुलाकर धरने पर बैठाकर
सूबे की सपा सरकार को आइना दिखाने की है. इसके लिए उर्वशी अन्य सामाजिक
संगठनों का सहयोग लेने को भी प्रयासरत हैं.
--
-Sincerely Yours,
Urvashi Sharma
Secretary - YAISHWARYAJ SEVA SANSTHAAN
101,Narayan Tower, Opposite F block Idgah
Rajajipuram,Lucknow-226017,Uttar Pradesh,India
Contact 9369613513
Right to Information Helpline 8081898081
Helpline Against Corruption 9455553838
http://upcpri.blogspot.in/
Note : if you don't want to receive mails from me,kindly inform me so
that i should delete your name from my mailing list.
Sunday, June 14, 2015
RE: [IAC#RG] FW: FW: WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY , CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING
Dear Shri Vinay Shankar ji,
In Political Science there are two kinds of Governments- Left of the Center and Right of the Center. USSR, Poland etc were having extreme Left of the Center Communist governments. From Pt Nehru's time we had mostly left of the Center governance with a very few Liberal concepts. In the last about 7 decades now we had week and ineffective local governments, outdated colonial model of bureaucracy which hardly bothers for welfare of citizens and freely allows large scale corruption in subsidies where hardly 16 paise per ruppee reach the beneficiaries. For political reasons and votebank policy loss making PSUs are encouraged. In fact umpteen more negative effects can be mentioned for countries following left of the Center governance.
In Political Science there are two kinds of Governments- Left of the Center and Right of the Center. USSR, Poland etc were having extreme Left of the Center Communist governments. From Pt Nehru's time we had mostly left of the Center governance with a very few Liberal concepts. In the last about 7 decades now we had week and ineffective local governments, outdated colonial model of bureaucracy which hardly bothers for welfare of citizens and freely allows large scale corruption in subsidies where hardly 16 paise per ruppee reach the beneficiaries. For political reasons and votebank policy loss making PSUs are encouraged. In fact umpteen more negative effects can be mentioned for countries following left of the Center governance.
Countirs which follow right of the center governance have strong and effective local governments, welfare most impartial Judiaciary and bureaucracy, a few PSUS with high quality products and profit making, best Universities of the world, world class infrastructure and umpteen points of good governance.
In left of the center governance poverty is allowed to continue as vote bank Liberalpolicy and all social welfare and HRD indices are very low in comparisson to countries following Right of the Center policies. All the currencies of the Socialist countries are very weak and those of Liberal Countries very strong. My suggestion is why not we follow Right of the Center Liberal policies-encouraging International trade, very high standard of education strong defence and good governance which even our Vedas advise.
Incidentally I have not understoof reference to my son's writings who was amongst the toppers in India and served for 18 years in IAS as DC, DRDA, Dirctor Rural Development, Secy and Commissioner in the state government and resigned foregoing his pension and gratuity after 18 years service as he was convinced IAS bureaucracy is great stumbling vlock in the progress of the country. It was my mistake as I advised him to join IAS and not IFS. When I joined as Joint Secy in the Minstry of Defence , i
and dealt with a number of IAS officers up Secy/Cabinet Secy level, I got a very poor impression of this service and was happy he resigned from IAS with such a brilliant career. Service to Citizens is strictly prohibited in IAS.
and dealt with a number of IAS officers up Secy/Cabinet Secy level, I got a very poor impression of this service and was happy he resigned from IAS with such a brilliant career. Service to Citizens is strictly prohibited in IAS.
Regards
Prem Sabhlok
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 16:07:08 +0530
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] FW: FW: WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY , CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING
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Dear Shri Sabhlok,
Now a days, perhaps never in the history of modern times in any country, there has been true Socialism, Capitalims or Liberalism. it is always a mixture and the propotion keeps on varying depending on the circumstances.
After the war, UK was highly socialist; as a matter of fact the socialism that the world practised, apart from the USSR, was seen in its dominant form in UK.
I am not arguing about the merits and demerits of Socialism and other isms. I am trying to submit that we should not be obsessed with these terms, which have never been practised in their true theoretical form any where and are not practised even today.
Instead of looking into the past times of Nehru, we should see what mixture does the country need today. If you argue that any measure that has the remotest connection with socialism should be thrown out, I do not agree particularly because the country is very poor and a big number will suffer unacceptable level of deprivation if the State support was totally withdrawn.
I feel that you have wrongly understood your son's writings. The title of his book is catching but I am sure he does not mean that all support to the poor be withdrawn.
Vinay Shankar
On 13 June 2015 at 11:19, Prem Sabhlok <psabhlok@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
Please tell me in which Socialist Country people have faith in Judiciary, bureaucracy and political leaders
Pt Nehru gave us rudderless Socialism- based on false promises during elections and the same is continuing even after nearly 70 years of Independence. Black Money is the highest New Caste in India.
Even a Brahmin prefers Shudra richman with blackmoney than a learned Brahmin who is poor.
Who is to be blamd for this continuous social mess created by Socialism?. WE the People of India have started loving socialism even though the most progressive states in the world prefer Liberalism, welfare bureaucracy, genuine Swaraj, politics as the noblest Endeavour.
I have no idea When We the People of India will say good bye to Socialism where even a dud, highly corrupt, neta with criminal outlook is worshipped. Latest entry in the worst kind of Socialism is now AAP and Kejriwal. Many Socialist parties are waiting in the long Que except Regd Swarna Bharat Party with total Liberal, genuine democratic agenda with firm belief in Poltics as the nobles endeavour..
PremSabhlok
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 07:27:57 +0000
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] FW: FW: WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY , CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING
Dear sirIt is all due to the fact that INDIA IS FREE BUT NOT INDIANS. WE have to struggle to make INDIANS FREE. 85% of population is worried about their two meals RATHER THAN THINKING ABOUT THE NATION.We have to work hard to make Indians free.Dr N C Jain
On Thursday, June 11, 2015 9:47 PM, chandra nair <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
Quote - - - - -If so, - - - - - - found a way out. Is there any other country where the final judgement is delivered after fifty or more years- - - ? Un Quote.YES THERE ARE!!! Read todays' TOI! In US of A, a coloured individual has been released after43(FORTY THREE)Yrs OF SOLITARY CONFINEMENT!Veteran K V C Nair
On Wednesday, 10 June 2015 7:12 AM, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr ManchandaEither you are taking an ostrich like approach or are trying to defend the indefensible! The judiciary is by far the worst organ of our constitution and not only is it spoiled but it has spoiled the other organs too. Just note the decision of the then CJI K G Balakrishnan in the judges assets case. By what stretch of imagination can anybody say that the office of the CJI is court of purview of the RTI Act? And then look at how the apex court, specifically its CJ, is trying to subvert the Judges Appointment Commission!ravi
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Rakesh Manchanda <rakeshmanchanda65@gmail.com> wrote:
It is not Judiciary who calls the shots and sets the RULES.See my recent articlehttp://indiaopines.com/prashant-bhushan-objects-appointment-chief-vigilance-commissioner/
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 11:20 AM, vasant sardesai <vasant_sardesai@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
The question is neither of the huge population nor of the limited resources. The first question is whether any body is interested either judges or the politicians or academicians interested in doing justice to the people? If so, they would have found a way out. Is there any other country where the final judgment is delivered after fifty or more years? And can it be called a justice? In India justice has disappeared a long back.V. S. Sardesai
On Tuesday, 2 June 2015 8:36 AM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] FW: WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY , CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 12:39:54 +0530
01/01/15My intention was not to compare the justice delivery in the two countries.Our system is based on the british model ( Common Law). They made the laws as an imperial power to govern India and we adopted them and have continued . But the population today is 5 times and the infrastructure has not kept pace.Let us say it is the democratic system. But if you look around how will you judge the success or failure of this system?The next democratic country with large population is US Where population is only 1/5 of India and infrastructure facilities are huge.In the Muslim countries they follow the Shariat laws which are short and swift.In the Communist countries-say China with comparable population and Russia the justice delivery system is swift not with 4/5 appeals from Trial court to Supreme Court.So the question is with such a huge [population and limited resources,what should be the system to ensure timely,corrution free justice delivery ?
regds
Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 08:06:55 +0000
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] FW: WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY , CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING
Comparisons need be made only with equals. I support the views made here showing the folly of comparisons just for the sake of it. Thanks and regards.Dr.M.C.George, Advocate, INFAM - (Indian Farmers Movement) National Trustee.
On Saturday, 30 May 2015 9:23 AM, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice@gmail.com> wrote:
You are off the track in comparing the population to judge ratio of the US and India. How does the population matter when more than 80 pc of them are and can only think about where their next meal comes from? With 1/5 our population the number of cases filed is far greater in the US. The figures I had noted from a powerpoint presentation attributed to Adv KTS Tulsi are:CASES FILED IN ONE YEAR (1999):INDIA : 13.6 Million (1,36,68,073) cases; USA: 93.81 Million casesDOCKET'S PER JUDGE: INDIA : 987 per Judge; USA: 3235 per Judgeregards n bwravi
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
28/5/15Dispensing justice to more than 1.2 billion people under the colonial system which has continued after independencehas reached a stage of near collapse. Next democracy in terms of population is US with only 1/5 population and 5 times the judges ratio compared to India.
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Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 13:31:18 +0530
Dt.16/5/15Dear Sirs,I am sorry to say that we are being unduly harsh on the judges forgetting the limitations under which they have to work.Advocates are a part of the judicial system and why are we not blaming them for the delay and corruption?Police are a part of the judicial system and why are we not blaming them for the delay, manipulation and corruption?Govt. is a part of the judicial system as most of the cases of monetary nature-incometax, Sales tax, Excise, financial frauds originate from them and they keep on going into appeals in a routine manner-just clogging the judicial system.We ourselves have become a litigant nation- and rush to courts at the earliest opportunity without exhausting alternative
redressal mechanism. marital disputes, property disputes, inheritance and domestic violence fall into this catagory.For infrastructure facilities in courts-the judiciary depends on the executive for funds. See the budget allocation for this.The laws are made by the legislature. See the competence of the legislators for enacting laws which are clear, concise and not open to different interpretations. The judiciary has to act under that legal system.For redresal of grievances against the Govt.,the judiciary developed the concept of Public litigation(PIL). You have to see the Nos of PILs being filed in Superior courts-many of them frivolous in nature and how much time the courts have to devote on the PILsTo my mind the main culprit is the Govt. who have been promising more that what they can deliver to the people,leading to frustration and sense of hopelessness.JKGaur
Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 00:54:46 +0000
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY , CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING
Sir, judges also decide cases on Give and Take basis.
On Friday, 15 May 2015 1:08 AM, Girinder Singh <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
Dear Friends, the most common peoples who loves their country and in those veins the blood having P factor (patriotism) is flowing has been demoralised before and after independence, our democracy has been a mockery of corrupt politicians, bureaucrats, judiciary, media even as 4th pillar is also seems corrupts many times some exceptions may be always there in all but it's true that most public is in anguish on corrupt practices which stops the progress & competeness of our beloved nations, no solution?
Sent from my iPhoneindeed depressing to know that judgesquite easily change the VERDICTShow come ?jerry
On 12 May 2015 at 15:53, ADV. SUDHA GANDHI <advsudhagandhi@gmail.com> wrote:
YES, IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE WHAT YOU OPINED ABOUT JUDICIARY IN INDIA.
OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM IS NOT FUNCTIONING FAIRLY FOR COMMON MAN, FOR
POOR PEOPLE, AND FOR HONEST PEOPLE. MOREOVER A TIE AMONG JUDGES,
SOLICITOR FIRMS, COUNSELS, POLITICIANS, INFLUENTIAL PERSONALITY, NAMED
AND FAMED ACTORS AND ALL SUCH LOBBY WITH THE HELP OF MONEY POWER IN
WHOSE FAVOUR THE COURT DECIDES AND 80% OF PEOPLE OF INDIA NEVER GET
JUSTICE IN TIME. COMMON PEOPLE AND POOR HAS NO MONEY TO PAY
ENORMOUS FEES TO ADVOCATES TO GET JUSTICE. EVERY ONE KNOWS THAT
FACE VALUE OF COUNSEL AND NAME OF SOLICITORS' FIRM COUNTS AND NOT A
MERITS OF THE CASE. FURTHER MANY POLITICIAN THOUGH INITIALLY
COME FROM COMMON MAN SOCIETY BUT AS SOON AS HE OR SHE CHOOSES ANY
POLITICAL PARTY AND START GETTING HOLD IN PARTY BY DOING CORRUPT
PRACTICE TO COLLECT MONEY AND TO PROVIDE HUGE FUND TO THE POLITICAL
PARTY AND ON THAT MERIT ALONE HE SUCCEED TO GET TICKET FOR M.P. AND
M.L.A SEAT AS NOW ALL AWARE OF THIS FACT AND THEN THEY START MAKING
CORRUPT THE ENTIRE ENVIRONMENT IN COUNTRY. HOW PEOPLE CAN EXPECT
ANY HELP FROM SUCH SELFISH, RUDELY BEHAVED AND CORRUPT POLITICIAN
WHO JUST WANT TO ENJOY THEIR LIFE AT THE COST OF TEX PAYER'S MONEY IN
INDIA. HOW SUCH ARROGANT POLITICIAN WILL BRING DEVELOPMENT
OF INDIA AND BRING ACHHE DIN FOR PEOPLE OF INDIA? HOW PEOPLE PUT
TRUST IN SUCH GOVERNMENT THAT SUCH POLITICIANS WILL WORK HARD AND
PROVIDE SELFLESS SERVICE TO THE NATION AND MAKE LIFE OF PEOPLE OF
INDIA HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS? PEOPLE Of INDIA LOST INTEREST IN SUCH
SHAMELESS, CORRUPT AND ARROGANT POLITICIANS AND TIRED OF SUCH INDIAN
DEMOCRACY WHERE NO HOPES LEFT FOR THE GOOD DAYS OF THE PEOPLE. B.J.P.
WORRIED ABOUT BLACK MONEY KEPT IN FOREIGN BANK, GOOD, BUT WHAT ABOUT
ALL POLITICIANS OF ALL POLITICAL PARTIES WHO HAVE COLLECTED ENORMOUS
BLACK MONEY AND IS IN INDIA ONLY INCLUDING BLACK MONEY COLLECTED BY
B.J.P. PAST AND PRESENT MINISTERS AND PRESENT MINISTERS AND M.P. AND
M.L.A. OF B.J.P ABOUT WHOM MODIJI IS SILENT! WHAT YOU ALL THINK
ABOUT IT?
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Venkatraman Ns
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> To
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> India Against Corruption
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> WHEN PEOPLE
> LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY , CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING
>
> After several years of trial in a killing case, an actor was held guilty by
> the court and jail term awarded. But, he got bail in a few hours from
> another judge. After several years of trial in a corruption case, a Chief
> Minister was found guilty and awarded jail term and hefty fine. But, after a
> few months, a higher court judge called her innocent and acquitted everyone
> involved totally. Now, one wonders which judge is right and which judge is
> wrong.
>
> While rich politicians and cinema actors seem to have the last laugh, there
> are thousands of dharidhranarayanas in India who stay in jail for lesser
> crime for several years without being heard. Are they not as much Indians as
> the cinema actor driving his car on a pavement dweller and rich politician
> indulging in corrupt practices ? Are we settling down for this sort of
> democracy in India ?
>
> An average common man in India, millions of whom do not have any political
> affiliation have already lost faith in the politicians in power and
> bureaucracy. He has been thinking that the judiciary is ultimate conscience
> keeper of the country. But, when judiciary give judgements with so much of
> contradiction between one judge and the other and providing bail and
> relief to the convicted actor and politicians with great speed and with
> many judges in India already having been accused of corrupt practices in the
> past, people tend to develop doubts about judiciary too.
>
> Now, what can a common man do , if he loses faith in politicians in power,
> bureaucrats and judges? It is alarming to think about such situation and the
> possibilities.
>
>
> N.S.Venkataraman
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Re: [IAC#RG] Need help securing the rights of homeschoolers
Point understood Vidyut ji.
We all want good ppl to be at the helm of affairs.And childhood is the right time to guide them.
Regards.
On 14 Jun 2015 20:38, "Vidyut" <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:
Also, I don't get the reference to Jeetendra Tomar. To the best of my knowledge, Tomar is a product of a system that values those itty bitty degrees, which is why he had to steal what he didn't have. This is not the act of a homeschooler that you are using to dismiss homeschooling.VidyutOn Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 3:24 PM, R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:One appreciates the social workers good intention.
But as we are seeing Delhi's ex law minister..wats his name, jitender tomar of aap, trying his best to build an a escape route thru various univ's in n out widout any success.
A regular education has no parallel at any level or grade.
Else we will be having high sounding empty vessels all over the place.
We are thankful to authorities for bringing this forward.
Regards to all.On 8 Jun 2015 07:55, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:PIL as proposed will not flyA legal solution to your problem is to take the religious route for MINORITIES .Art 30(1) and obtain a certificate saying you are an Esperanto speaker / Anusthanic Brahmo Samajists etc. enabling you to run your own schoolBTW: It seems the RTE Act acknowledges homeschoolingOn Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 12:12 AM, Vidyut <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:The RTE does not allow homeschooling. The education system we have is frankly pathetic and does little to nothing to provide a useful foundation for life. We are still into memorizing and testing recall in an age of pen drives. Spending hours calculating square roots when every mobile has a calculator and we have more mobiles than toilets. On the other hand, things we'd imagine are life essentials - how is your electricity bill calculated and how to pay it or even what your rights are as a child and what can you do if your rights are violated is something you never learn in school.TEN years of basic education does not make students competent for basic jobs and they must cater to the education inflation craze to be able to make a living. Ten years is a lot of time. We don't see a two hour film without checking reviews to see if it is worth it, yet think nothing of occupying ten of the most eventful years of a child's life with school.What is it that the schooling system teaches and that we need in life that takes ten years to learn?Alternative schools and homeschooling parents attempt to make education more relevant and useful to children. Study after study has shown homeschooling in particular in far more favorable light than schooling systems.India has a small but growing community of homeschoolers who are constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop as the noose tightens around their necks.Most of us are determined that we'd rather face jail ourselves than send our beloved children into one. Yet we are left with little choice than to keep our heads down and continue our "illegal" activity (recently removing a child from school was also termed 'criminal'!) and hope that we never end up facing the law over it.It also hinders the children's rights in many ways. Many events or competitions accept student entries through their schools and homeschoolers not having a school name to put in the form can become ineligible to participate. Scholarships that could dramatically enhance a child's scope (homeschooling isn't cheap) cannot be applied for without the name of the school where the child is learning.Worse, there are places where officials from the education system keep visiting families to insist that the children be sent to school. Alarming reports of government notices to parents not sending children to school.Would it be possible to file a PIL stating that while the RTE is an excellent MINIMUM to offer children, it is hardly the ideal education a child can receive and parents or organizations attempting to raise the bar should not be prevented and forced to accept the mediocre?Advice would be much useful, as we are a small and scattered community with little experience with rights struggles and we have vulnerable children we want to do right to. So there is some fear of being in the government/judiciary's notice with our child's name on record as violating the RTE.VidyutVidyut
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Re: [IAC#RG] WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY , CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING
You are right; justice has disappeared from India long back. What we get from courts is called justice, not real justice, it is a farce in the name of justice. To get real justice,everything connected with justice is required to be overhauled. Right from the proceedure for appointments of judges, their qualifications and their conduct and behaviour, both moral and ethical and experience to the present laws and proceedures. it should not take more than a year to get final judgement. But who wants the real justice?
V. S. Sardesai
On Sunday, 14 June 2015 5:10 PM, Harish Makkar <drharishmakkar@gmail.com> wrote:
To Say the least-most of the judges,be it magistrate level to high court level(supreme court is also not out of corruption -but the cases/% are less) are not doing their duties honourably, and that is a serious matter.
In our legeal system-people depend on their final verdict and corruption at this level beats the general public.Lawyers also take clients for a ride and are fleecing client to limits of desperation.Recently I came to know about a case wherin a villager -who had his case in high court was called by a lawyer siting date of his case for donkey years,approached a court employe and was surprisingly told ,that he had lost his case 2 yrs back and produced his judgement copy-while his lawyer was taking fee for every date/visit.On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:54 PM, DR MC GEORGE <drgeorgemanayan@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Dear friendsNow Judges are acting as super powers and want to be left free from any sort of even discussion about their duties and the real situation existing today. They select ,they appoint, they make or prepare rules by themselves with nobodyelse to evaluate or asses. Pretty odd situation in a democratic setup with seperate legislatures for making laws and an executive to implement with a judiciary to interpret and decide. All extrajudicial bodies like Tribunals, Commissions ect. which are plum posts after retirement will render the system most ineffective and corrupt. Moreover these extra bodies are usless waste of resources.Anyway the system of selection and appointment under one agency will leave the judiciary as useless and corrupt entity.Dr.M.C,George, Advocate,INFAM-IndianFarmersMovement- National Trustee.On Wednesday, 10 June 2015 7:13 AM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
9/6/15
Dear Sirs,We are here criticising judiciary not someone( as a person). And judiciary as an institution spread from NewDelhi(the seat of power) to small towns throughout the length and breadth of the country, has failed to deliver timely justice.Please think of crores of cases pending from a few years to a few decades and each case has at least two litigants-their emotions,frustrations and finances. Before independence this system was prevailing only where Britishadministered territories. There were more than 565 States which were outside this system.2. What makes you think that many of us are not living by the standards of honesty, truthfulness and other desirableattributes that you have mentioned. But these are all duties, and we are living on the diet of rights not duties.Besides the fundamental rights in the constitution, the latest addition is human rights and you can cover anything under the umrella of human rights. Regds
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 11:44:01 +0530
From: r.dua1234@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY , CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING
These planks are good for winning votes but in the end wat matters is dat 'every Indian should have food on their plates.'
But this to salute ur good sentiment shri nag ji.
Wish this cld be true.And Shri Malhotra ji has said right that population control is most imp in today's scenario of limited resources.Our Respected Judiciary set the guidelines but it is for us to put it in practice.Today in the papers that Delhi govt has allowed pv test on rape victims inspite of Court Guidelines.
On 8 Jun 2015 07:56, "Hirak Nag" <hiraknag@yahoo.co.in> wrote:The statement 'When people lose faith in (our) judiciary, consequences can be alarming' is highlighting another serious concern supposedly afflicting our governance, but is this not another reflection on our thinking ? We must first give serious thought to our own deficient thinking and actions, each and every one of us, before shooting off our mouths to blame 'someone' else. Do right, do good, don't lie, don't cheat, and hear I would like to repeat my advise, ' Care for your sisters, live clean, think honest, do honest.' Only those who think honest and do honest can critisize misdemeanours.--------Hirak Nag.
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On Sat, 6/6/15, ravindra malhotra <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY , CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING
To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>, "R N Goil" <rngoil@yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, 6 June, 2015, 12:10 AM
After 1977, no law maker has been
able to gather courage even to mention about family planning
in any forum - probably not even in private. Production
level being much higher in lower income groups, the number
of people below poverty line keeps on increasing,
government being forced to control the figure by
manupulating the threshold level of Poverty..
R.N.Malhotra
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On Fri, 6/5/15, R N Goil <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
wrote:
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY ,
CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING
To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"
<indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Date: Friday, June 5, 2015, 11:36 AM
Let us
have the courage to follow 1 child norm like China for 20
years to solve most of our ills. RN
Goil
On Friday, 5 June 2015 1:54 AM,
Gaur J K
<gaurjk@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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03/06/15
A PIL was filed in the Suprme Court
in 2008 seeking speedy justice by some NGOs. After a
period
of 6 years the Court has summarily disposed of the
petition in December 2014.
To clear the
mounting backlog of cases in different courts and to
ensure
that the backlog does not reappear a number of submissions
were made for increasing the strength of the judges,
filling
up of the existing vacancies in subordinate courts, create
addl. infrastructure facilities including greater
transparency and accountability. The court observed that
the
judiciary has alrrady considered most of the issues raised
in the petition indepndently and finally. Janhit Manch(
Mr.
Rayani) is one of the petitioners.So where is the
hope for improvement in the justice delivery
system?JKGaur
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015
10:15:55 +0530
From: deegees11@gmail.com
To: trident142@yahoo.co.in
CC:
truevalue_pandian@yahoo.com;
iyer_ga@yahoo.com;
rakshpal.abrol@yahoo.co.in;
vijay99kapoor@yahoo.com;
j_nc2000@yahoo.com;
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Janshakti@yahoogroups.com;
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN
JUDICIARY , CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING
IAC was started by Kejriwal and
now it has been hijacked by BJP morons.
On 1 June 2015 at 09:47,
capt beniwal <trident142@yahoo.co.in>
wrote:
its We the People
who have to oversee the judges through live telecast of
court proceedings.
presently applicable colonial rules IPC/CrPC
the judges have too much discretion, as was designed for
Britishers. must be harshly limited.
since the judges are also
servants of We the People.
if we see how law is made then we must also
see how that law is applied. therefore I have been
requesting President and CJI to start live telecast of
SC proceedings. only dishonest judges will object.
rgds.
beniwal
On Sunday, 31 May
2015 9:12 PM, PANDIAN Paulraj <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
wrote:
It is NOT our intention to
blame any one or any individual or the system. WE ARE
CONFUSED. One judge says GUILTY. The same case, same
accused, same arguments, another more experienced, more
knowledgeable judge is saying NOT GUILTY. Who is wrong and
who is right? It can not be brushed aside as awn
aberration.
Both are presenting 800 plus pages of reasoning to
substantiate their conclusions. Obviously one of them is
wrong. I am personally scared when my case comes up for
judgment who will try me and with what result? Added to it
is the immunity granted to the judiciary by itself. But
then
who will oversee the judiciary? The Politicians? That is
the
joke of the millennium. Regards.
Gopalkrishnan iyer <iyer_ga@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Simply
put, naxalism, terrorism etc. are the offshoots of loosing
faith in judiciary! One can find well educated people(if
education is important) resorting to extremism/rebellion!
Discrimination, deprivation, disparity are all leading to
extremism!! Governance should incorporate all attributes
that give rise to the above to be evened out!
On Sunday, 31 May
2015 7:50 AM, Rakshpal Abrol <rakshpal.abrol@yahoo.co.in>
wrote:
Dear
Sir,Till date our Constitution has not define the
word Citizen of India.Citizenship Act,1955 has
not yet been accepted by Government of India and the State
Governments.The judges are not law
makers.How many people of this country has signed
the documents called Citizen of India format designed by
the
bureaucracy.It was proposed in the year
2004.Therefore please do not blame the
judiciary.
Warm regards,
Rakshpal
Abrol
Consumer Activist
9820203154
rakshpal.abrol@yahoo.co.in
From: PANDIAN
Paulraj <truevalue_pandian@Yahoo.com>
To: vijay99kapoor@yahoo.com
Cc: Gopalkrishnan iyer
<iyer_ga@yahoo.com>;
Dr. NC Jain <j_nc2000@yahoo.com>;
indiaresists@lists.riseup.net;
Rakshpal Abrol <rakshpal.abrol@yahoo.co.in>;
Janshakti <Janshakti@yahoogroups.com>;
Barkha Dutt <barkha@ndtv.com>
Sent: Saturday, 30 May
2015 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG]
WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY , CONSEQUENCES CAN BE
ALARMING
Remember. In India LAW simply means
Leave Accused if Wealthy.
It does not stop with actors, politicians
bureaucrats and the like. It is not the mistake
of the judges. Advocates should not take up cases they
know
to be unjust or illegal. Finding a way to somehow save
their
client is not fair. They no doubt save the client; but in
that process ruin the moral fibre of the nation. The only
way a common man can show his displeasure is by social
boycott. If you do not agree with the let away culprit,
don't see his movies for ever; or don't buy the
product the cricketer endorses ; or don't vote for the
party the politicians belong to. Ganga may not be cleaner
by
then. The country will become cleaner.
Vijay Kapoor <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
wrote:
>In this context,
the recent order by SC as reported in the media, that a
"judge" who has passed an absurd order cannot be
questioned, is even more absurd. Question then arises:
that
if the "judge" even in an absurd order cannot be
questioned, can a judge who passes a criminal order, say,
"go and shoot Mr. X" or "go and commit
rape" or "burn down the house" can also not
be brought to book !? Then can an absurd "judge"
who passes an order, say, "I hereby sack the President
of India" or "The parliament stands
dissolved" be not brought to book ?
>The judges need to ponder the deleterious
effects on the nation of their virtually complete
accountability.
>
>Regards,
>
>--------------------------------------------
>On Wed, 5/20/15, Rakshpal Abrol <rakshpal.abrol@yahoo.co.in>
wrote:
>
> Subject:
Re: [IAC#RG] WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY ,
CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING
> To:
"Gopalkrishnan iyer" <iyer_ga@yahoo.com>,
"Dr. NC Jain" <j_nc2000@yahoo.com>,
"vijay99kapoor@yahoo.com"
<vijay99kapoor@yahoo.com>,
"indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"
<indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2015, 1:04 AM
>
> The system was
> evolved taking into consideration of
British
> laws.Most of the Advocates
follow
> the same and being influenced
the judges pass the
> order.The
> Justice is never delivered it is
purchased.
> Warm regards,
> Rakshpal Abrol
>
Consumer Activist
> 9820203154
> rakshpal.abrol@yahoo.co.in
>
>
> From: Gopalkrishnan
>
iyer <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
>
> To: Dr. NC Jain
> <j_nc2000@yahoo.com>;
> "vijay99kapoor@yahoo.com"
> <vijay99kapoor@yahoo.com>;
> "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"
> <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 May
> 2015 3:22 PM
>
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG]
> WHEN PEOPLE LOSE
FAITH IN JUDICIARY , CONSEQUENCES CAN BE
> ALARMING
>
> There is
> no doubt
left as to the fact that Indian justice system is
> not free from influence from powers that
be, money power and
> high profile
advocates.The recent verdicts one after the
> other seeng Salman khan virtually a free
man within hours
> despite being
convicted is ample proof that justice delivery
> is maneovreable! Harish Salve's
presense in the court in
> a way subdued
the Justice!! Or else all those involved in
> deliberating whether Salman is a culprit
or not are not at
> all knowing the law
on which they argued for 13 years!
>
Jayalalitha'scase too is anopther instance cite! Can
a
> common man avail the services of
Salve or the like of him
> and if so at
what cost and how fast! Common man has to wait
> for months for an appontment where as all
appointments were
> cancelled and flew
down in Salmans case!!I should
> say the
justice system also is influenced by status of
> people involved!
>
> Insider
> trader Gupta
in the US was convicted in a matter of days and
> sentence followed in the same pace whereas
Harshad
> Mehta's case is far from
being over though the accused
> passed
away long back!
> I think the jury
system
> could speed up the justice
system with least chance of a
> faulty
delivery of justice
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, 18 May
2015 12:47 PM, Dr.
> NC Jain <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
wrote:
>
>
> Dear
> sir
> Such instances are very common.As everone
is aware, justice
> delayed is justice
denied and In India, it is a common
>
practice in almost,most department. I have a case of
> noncompliance of CIC order for the last 4
years and cic is
> not replying/taking
any action on it. In short,India is free
> but not Indians.We have to struggle to
make Indians free.
> Dr
> N C Jain
>
>
> On Friday,
May 15, 2015 1:14 AM,
> Vijay Kapoor
<indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
wrote:
>
>
> In
> theory there
appeals are possible to set right the wrongs of
> lower courts. But things are entirely
different in
> practice.
> I cite a couple of my own
> experiences:
>
> 1. I filed a
>
consumer complaint against a leading industrialist and
> builder of Goa in the State Consumer
court. The
> "president judge",
one Mr. Nelson Britto,
> apparently held
the case in my favour because he granted me
> penal damages of Rs. 3.0 lacs against the
builder. But look
> at the sheer
malafides of the "judge" and his
> "order", who apparently imposed
the penalty as a
> smokescreen to shield
AND REWARD the errant industrialist.
>
His entire order does not mention a single word as to why
he
> imposed the penalty, and whether the
builder was in
> deficency, in unfair
trade practices, and providing
>
hazardous services, WHEN the industrialist-builder has
lied
> under oath and put a false
document said to be the NOC from
> navy
in the agreement to sell; the builder admitted in
> cross-examination under oath in that he
destroyed evidence;
> that he never
obtained the mandatory NOC from navy; that the
> brochure placed on record by me was his
brochure; that he
> contravened
> Registration Act; that he
> contravened The Transfer of Property Act
by not disclosing
> material defects in
the property; etc. and so on. There is a
> contravention of at least half a dozen
major Acts and laws
> of the land. But
the "judge" does not discuss any
> of the law points involved and does not
utter a single word
> about all those.
Finally to cap it all the "judge"
> ignores the prayers made by me to either
give market value
> (with written
quotations from 5 vicinity builders) OR a
> similar flat in nearby locality. Instead
he gives interest @
> 15%, which means a
loss in capital value to me of over 10
>
lacs (excluding interest cost), and a corresponding gain
to
> the industrialist.
>
> 2. In
> another case in the same court the
"judge", one
> Mr.
Prabhudessai, who claims to be a law teacher in a local
> college, ignores all evidence on record
and several points
> of law raised: Can
the opposite party submissions that are
>
not on affidavit and are merely verbal, be entertained by
> the court; Can a piece of paper without an
Invoice Number /
> Tax registration,
taxes be a valid "Invoice /
>
Bill"; can the OP who has approached the court in
not
> good faith be entertained; when
there are 6 different
> agreements
between the parties and with different dates and
> terms & conditions, can the matter be
properly decided
> without first deciding
which of the agreements is the valid
>
one; when the OP himself does not dispute or refute the
> evidence placed on record, can the
"judge"
> unilaterally decide
differently that too without any
>
reasoning; can the "judge" overrule at least 10
SC
> judgments on different subjects; can
the "judge"
> overrule the law
and the intent to
> the
> parliment; can the "judge" order
costs when
> several issues of law have
been raised; etc. The appeal
> before the
National Commission was the same .......
> non-appreciation of evidence on record and
several law
> points raised. At this
point as I came down with health
>
problems I could not pursue the matter in the SC.
>
> There are many fine
judges (I
> recall Justices Mr. Sachar
and Mrs. Leila Seth, who settled
> my PF
case in just 4 hearings and did not allow the govt.
> lawyers to dilly-dally. I also recall the
justice in Delhi
> HC, who put his foot
down by telling the govt judges to get
>
on with their defence, if any, and the outcome was
quaterly
> disclosure of results by
corporates, and also certain
> provisins
for transparency in results.) But, the problem is
> all-persuasive, and is not limited to the
judiciary only. As
> the SC itself has
said that the judges are part of the same
> society. One hopes that one encounters the
good judges,
> babus, netas, of which
there are many.
>
>
There is need for ALL-ROUND reform as in
> REFORM. The elections, administration,
judiciary, police,
> education, health,
... just everything.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
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> On Thu, 5/14/15, P.Mohana Chandran <p.mohanachandran50@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re:
>
[IAC#RG] WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY ,
CONSEQUENCES
> CAN BE ALARMING
> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
> Date: Thursday, May 14, 2015, 1:08 AM
>
> Shri
Venkataraman may
> kindly note that to
err is human.Judges also
> may err-of
> course not with the intention to
> err.The error may be on a
> question of law
> or
on a guestion of fact.To take care of
>
> such situations,law enables affected
party to file
> Appeal,Review,Revision
etc.Do you wantthe
> Appellate Court
to
> confirm the trial court
> judgement in all cases and thereby
> make the
> people to
have faith in judiciary.TrialCourt and
> Appellate Courts shall patiently hear
the
> matter and give
> judgements with out fear or
> favour.They need not worry about
> the
> comments that
may be made by persons like
>
> Shri.Venkataraman.
>
If the decision of
> Mr.Justice
Kumaraswamy of
> the Hon'ble
> Karnataka High Court is based on
erroneous
>
>
calculation (mathematical error ) in calculating the
> total
> assets and
total income and if the
> mismatch is
really more
> than 10% as is
> being propogated by some opposition
leaders
>
> in
Tamilnadu, a mere Application for Review will be
> sufficient for the Judge to correct
the
> error.
> The
allegation was that since
>
Ms.Jayalalitha is a politician,the case was
> prolonged for
> more
than a decade.On her
> coviction,when the
Bail matter
> came up
> before the Supreme Court ,coditional Bail
was
> granted,a consequence of which is
expeditious
> disposal of
> the Appeal which resulted in
> quick disposal of the
> Appeal.The economic
>
status of the party concerned has
>
nothing
> to do with the case.
> A resourceful /wealthy
> party may be able
>
to engage a team of legal
> experts and
may be able to come
> out
> successful by taking advantage of the
loopholes in law.A
> 'daridra
narayana' may have to depend
> on a
lawyer
> provided by Court or
Legal
> Services Authority who may
or
> may not be
>
good/capable of handling the matter.It is only in
> this matter ,economically deprived
persons are
> in a dis
> advantageous position.Bail is the
> Rule and Jail is an
>
exception. Poor people
> are not capable
of engaging a lawyer
> and in
> cases that are not very serious,amicus
curie is not
> appointed by court for
accused and hence they
> remain in
jail
> for days, months and at
> times years.
> I
shall cite a case
> (Mrs.Indirra
Gandhi)
> where a High Court
> 's verdict was set aside by the
> Supreme
> Court,not
because the High Court was wrong but
>
because the Parliament amended the law with
> retrospective
>
effect.Incurring expenses by
> a
candidate above the cut off
> limit was
an
> electoral malpractice even if the
amount is
>
> spent
by a political party. Mrs.Gandhi was unseated as
> Congress spent in excess of the cut
off
> amount.During
> emergency, law was amended
> with retrospective effect
> stipulating that
>
money spent by political parties shall not
>
> be counted to
calculate the cut off amount .Both the
> decisions were correct.Perhaps Shri
> Venkataraman might not have uttered a
word
> had
>
Ms.Jayalalitha got the Prevention of
>
Corruption Act
> amended with
retrospective
> effect exempting
MPs,MLAs,MLCs
> and Central
> and State Ministers from the per view
of the
> Prevention of Corruption
Act.I appreciate Ms
> Jayalalitha
> for fighting the case by filing
> Appeal engaging ,of course
> the best legal
>
brain instead of managing to amend the
>
> Prevention of
Corruption Act with the help of Mr Modi
> and
> also the
DMK P.Mohana
>
>
Chandran
> On Wed, May 13, 2015
> at 9:08 AM, Raghavan R N <raghavan6@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Sir,
>
> If some one is Punished by a Court, it
does not
> mean Judiciary is right .
There are many
> cases pending
> Judgement in a number of
> Courts in india, the two recently
> came up
> for public
attention is that of Ms Jayalalitha and
> Mr Salman Khan
>
Every one
> knows that Ms
Jayalalitha's case
> is
> one related to Politics and it is natural,
every one
> wanted her to be punished[
her opponents].
> She has been an
> actress for a long time and
> her back ground is too good to
> be
> considered that
she amassed wealth only by political
>
means. Judgement by a Lower Court need not
> necessarily
> decide
the final outcome. Law
> provides more
options till
> Supreme Court.
> If it is a fit case for fighting, Govt
should
> initiate action to file a suit
in Supreme
> Court. None
> prevented and no one should
> close this option. Counting
> dresses ,
> chappals
and other house hold articles for
>
> estimating the assets of Ms Jayalalitha
looks
> odd.
> In
the case of Ms Salman
> Khan, it can
be
> appreciated that this case
> is not of national importance.
> Daily such
> run over
cases happen in India and abroad and
>
even yesterday three women were killed under
> the wheels of a
>
police vehicle. It is an
> accident can
be due to
> negligence.Here too,
> the accused has options to
> appeal in higher
>
court to get justice. Bail was granted as
>
> he is an actor and
is working in number of FILMS. All get
> affected. Granting bail , fast or slow
cannot
> be questioned.
> Definitely, prominent people
> get things done fast and for
> others, it
> takes
time. It is Indian culture and way of doing
> things in India.
>
> raghavan rn
>
>
>
> From: boompellivenkatrao@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 12:47:50 -0400
> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] WHEN PEOPLE LOSE
FAITH
> IN JUDICIARY ,
> CONSEQUENCES CAN BE
>
ALARMING
>
> One
more case of
> SATYAM Ramblings Raju.
The fraud is
> a
>
open book to every one. He got bail with in a
> month.
> B.
VENKAT RAO
> Sent from my iPhone
> On
> 12-May-2015, at
3:41 am, Jagjit Ahuja <jagjit.ahuja@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Judiciary in India
has
> made a mockery of
> themselves . They know that there is
no
>
> one in the
governing system who can punish them for all
> the
> wrongs. Now
with the judgement made in
> favour of
> Jayalalitha clearly shows that
> how our judiciary has been
> working . The
>
presenting officers and the defence
>
> advocates have been playing games with
each other .At
> least punish out off
those who have been
> proved to be
> wrong .
> Same
> thing happened with the case of Salman
>
> Khan.> -----Inline
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:41 PM,
> Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> To
>
> India Against
Corruption
>
>
>
>
>
>
> WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN
JUDICIARY
> , CONSEQUENCES CAN BE
ALARMING
>
>
> After
> several
years
> of trial in a killing case,
> an actor was held guilty by the
> court and
> jail
term
> awarded. But, he got bail in
a
> few hours
>
from another judge. After
> several years
of trial in a
> corruption
> case, a
> Chief
Minister was found guilty and
> awarded
jail term and
> hefty fine. But,
> after a few months, a higher court
judge
> called her innocent
> and acquitted
>
everyone involved totally. Now, one wonders
> which judge is
>
right and which judge
> is wrong.
>
>
> While rich
>
politicians and cinema actors
> seem to
have the last laugh,
> there are
> thousands
> of
dharidhranarayanas in India
> who stay in
jail for lesser
> crime for
> several
> years
without being heard. Are they
> not as
much Indians as
> the cinema actor
> driving his car on a pavement dweller
and rich
> politician
> indulging in corrupt
> practices ? Are we settling down for
this sort
> of democracy
> in India ?
>
>
> An average common
man
> in
> India,
millions of whom do not have any political
> affiliation have already
> lost
> faith in the
politicians in power and bureaucracy. He
> has been thinking that
> the
> judiciary is
ultimate conscience keeper of the country.
> But, when judiciary
> give
> judgements
with so much of contradiction between one
> judge and the other
> and
> providing
bail and relief
> to the
> convicted actor and
>
politicians with
> great speed and
with
> many judges in
> India already having been
> accused of
> corrupt
practices in the past, people
>
> tend to develop doubts about judiciary
>
> too.
>
> Now, what can
a
> common man do , if he loses faith
in
> politicians in power,
> bureaucrats and
>
judges? It is alarming to think about such
> situation and the
>
possibilities.
> N.S.Venkataraman
>
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