On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Mahendra Kumar Gupta
<
mkgupta1952@gmail.com> wrote:
> Expulsion of Mr. Kris Dev is painful. This blog has become the tv
> serioal big boss where members are seen fighting among themselves most of
> the time..
>
> If former Chief IC Mr. Wajahat Habibullah is compelled to make
> adverse comments twice viz. 'rude' and 'entertainer', it has some meaning.
> We r civilised persons and want to deal with others in that manner. My vote
> for civll and gentle language and not for intemperate.
>
> Now, this group is serving the interest of public and RTI less and has
> become a battle field more. I give call for social boycott of (no need to
> mention name as everyboyd knows him) if his tantrums continues.
>
> I also request you to expel me from this group as my request for unsubscribe
> has fallen on deaf ears. .
>
> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:31 PM, <
nct.lko@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear PMK,
>>
>> Refer your letter expelling Kris. I request you to please expel me too
>> instantly since I am no good to you,your network or The great cause of RTI
>> (because I am incapable of using abusive language and passing derogatory
>> remarks against anybody and everybody to attract attention) and also
>> because I do not wish to trouble you to invent a clause to expel me.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Naveen tewari
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: PMK1504 <
humjanenge.owner@gmail.com>
>> Sender:
humjanenge@googlegroups.com >> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:08:23
>> To: <
humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
>> Reply-To:
humjanenge@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: CIC minutes of meeting
>>
>> Dear Sh Kris Dev and other members
>>
>> The Regulations of this group are crystal clear and are applied
>> uniformly without exception.
>>
>> Prime among them is that the list owner is empowered to take all steps
>> to control the quantity and quality of email emanating from this
>> group. In particular "abusive language" is not tolerated and neither
>> is self publicity.
>>
>> If any member, including Sarbjit, steps out of line they will expelled
>> without notice. I am therefore required to expel Sh Kris Dev for
>> persistently publicising himself and circulating his mobile number on
>> this group.
>>
>> We are also considering adding a fresh regulation to deal with fake
>> news / information being circulated via groups.
>>
>> PMK
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Kris Dev <
krisdev@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > I tend to agree with Naveen. We need to be professional. We should shoot
>> > the
>> > message and not the messenger. I for one has been following this in all
>> > discussions. I have dealt in the past with Mr. Prakash Kardaley and
>> > others
>> > on this principle.
>> >
>> > Using uncivil or fowl language is not in the best interest of such a
>> > respectable group, irrespective of who are the founders / moderators /
>> > members. Ultimately it is the present members who have to decide on
>> > civility
>> > or else quit with no other option left as rightly stated by Naveen.
>> >
>> > I propose to put to vote:
>> >
>> > A. How many would like to see / read, civil language / communication in
>> > this
>> > site?
>> >
>> > B. How many would like to see / read uncivil / impolite language /
>> > communication in this site?
>> >
>> > I vote for A (count 1).
>> >
>> > I invite and request all to please vote and add the count to A or B as
>> > per
>> > your choice.
>> >
>> > With no ill will to anyone
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Kris Dev
>> > Social Activist, Chennai
>> > 0 98 408 52132.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 5:32 PM, sroy1947 <
sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear Mr Tewari
>> >>
>> >> "This network" as you refer to it, is claimed to be a memorial to Mr
>> >> Prakash Kardaley. Mr Kardaley incidentally was the brain behind the
>> >> "Save
>> >> RTI Sack CIC" movement of which Mr Habibullah was the sole target. All
>> >> the
>> >> emails in this connection are available in the archives of the
>> >> HumJanenge
>> >> Yahoogroup and it is quite amusing to
>> >> remember the pranks and antics (and language) Mr Kardaley's monkey
>> >> brigade
>> >> used to get up to.
>> >>
>> >> The organisers of this network, being pioneering founders of the monkey
>> >> brigade and deeply concerned about the fate of RTI in India if left
>> >> solely
>> >> in the hands of the monkeys, had sought my assistance in setting up /
>> >> managing this e-group, as apparently I am the only RTI
>> >> personality left who can be as abusive or arrogant or pigheaded than
>> >> the
>> >> late Mr Kardaley.
>> >>
>> >> BTW, Mr Habibullah has already commented on my usage of certain
>> >> unflattering (but not abusive) terms on these "blogs" in one of his
>> >> decisions as CIC. So in sum, I think it would be much better if we left
>> >> the
>> >> decision on what is acceptable here, or not, to the owners of this
>> >> group.
>> >> The link to unsubscribe BTW, is the same one you used to
>> >> subscribe here.
>> >>
>> >> Warmly
>> >> Sarbajit
>> >>
>> >> On Nov 20, 2:28 am,
nct....@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> > Dear Mr Sarabjit,
>> >> >
>> >> > I do not know you well enough but have chanced upon a few mails shot
>> >> > off
>> >> > by you on this network. I would like to request you to keep some
>> >> > decorum and
>> >> > civility when you are writing pieces which are read by a large number
>> >> > of
>> >> > people. Sometimes the language that you use is very harsh and
>> >> > improper, to
>> >> > say the least. If you continue this kind of at unseemly expression,
>> >> > at least
>> >> > I would like to be out of the network.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sincerely
>> >> > Naveen tewari
>> >> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: sroy1947 <
sroy1...@gmail.com>
>> >> >
>> >> > Sender:
humjanenge@googlegroups.com >> >> > Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:03:08
>> >> > To: HumJanenge RTI India Right to Information Act
>> >> > 2005<
HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>
>> >> > Reply-To:
humjanenge@googlegroups.com >> >> > Subject: [HumJanenge] Re: CIC minutes of meeting
>> >> >
>> >> > Actually sir, its an old charge, publicly made, and backed up with
>> >> > the CIC's own
>> >> >
>> >> > datahttp://
old.nabble.com/Is-there-a-Lazy-Bum-at-the-CIC---ts29564164.htm...
>> >> >
>> >> > Incidentally, some RTI activists thought the term "lazy bum" referred
>> >> > to Shailesh Gandhi
>> >> > who was slacking off in disposing his cases per CIC statistics.
>> >> >
>> >> > My apologies for my rudeness.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sarbajit
>> >> >
>> >> > On Nov 20, 12:49 am, wajahat <
whabibul...@nic.in> wrote:
>> >> > > How rude Er Roy. And a new charge of laziness long after the event!
>> >> > > Wajahat
>> >> >
>> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > From: sroy 1947 <
sroy1...@gmail.com>
>> >> > > Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010 9:50 am
>> >> > > Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC minutes of meeting
>> >> > > To:
humjanenge@googlegroups.com >> >> >
>> >> > > Well it certainly looks as though CIC(ANT) is making up for lost
>> >> > > time
>> >> > > and undoing all the damage a certain publicity crazy lazy bum did
>> >> > > in his 5
>> >> > > years as CIC. The non-publication of the Annual Reports was
>> >> > > entirely due to
>> >> > > Pankaj Shreyaskar, and I hope that CIC(ANT) places some
>> >> > > observations against
>> >> > > him in his ACR.
>> >> >
>> >> > > Observe also how IC(SM) is now placed higher than IC(AD) in the
>> >> > > pecking order.
>> >> >
>> >> > > Sarbajit
>> >> >
>> >> > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 9:08 AM, PMK1504
>> >> > > <
humjanenge.ow...@gmail.com>
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >
http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Minutes/Minutes09112010.pdf >> >> >
>> >> > > Minutes of the Meeting held on 9 11 10
>> >> >
>> >> > > Present:
>> >> > > Sri A N Tiwari, Chief Information Commissioner
>> >> > > Sri Stayanand Mishra, Information Commissioner
>> >> > > Smt Annapurna Dixit, Information Commissioner
>> >> > > Sri M L Sharma, Information Commissioner
>> >> > > Smt Deepak Sandhu, Information Commissioner
>> >> > > Secretary and officers assisted the Commission.
>> >> >
>> >> > > Agenda 1: ATR on the MoM dated 02.11.2010
>> >> > > Noted.
>> >
>
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