Hello
You had posted that you would expose identities of Owners, moderators
of this group by using IP address. Now you say that owner / moderators
is not vishal Kudchadkar or PMK1504. I have also been trailing the
people behind this group, but my own study proves that "v4Veeresh
(humjanenge.owner")" who was posting to this group and "v_kudz AT
yahoo dot com" ("vishalkudchadkar") are one and same person, and same
can be verified by anyone.
Raminder
On 11/6/10, VijayBahadur Singh <vijaybahadur@gmail.com> wrote:
> Imposter,
>
> By posting such clippings by copying from various websites avaiable on
> net you are trying to convince the members by using the names of Vishal
> Kudchadkar or PMK1504, you are trying to fool members that yours is real
> group. The fact is that you are you are one of the biggest fool and liar on
> the earth.
>
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 5:19 PM, vishalkudchadkar <humjanenge.owner@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>
>> http://www.tehelka.com/story_main47.asp?filename=Ne131110Natgrid_will.asp
>>
>> A terrorist has been arrested in Kashmir's Anantnag district. During
>> interrogation, he reveals that two of his fellow operatives are from
>> Coimbatore in Tamil Nadu. As of now, the procedure is that the
>> interrogator would write a report to be perused by his senior
>> officers. If and when they read it, the information will then be
>> forwarded to their counterparts in the relevant states, who will
>> forward it to the district superintendent of police. This winding
>> process often takes a month.
>>
>> But from May 2011, there will be major changes in the way such data is
>> handled across India. With the National Intelligence Grid (Natgrid) in
>> place, the interrogator will immediately feed the data into the
>> Natgrid and the Coimbatore Police will get instant updates. They can
>> not only mail back specific questions to the interrogators, but also,
>> if required, send someone to join the investigation right away. All
>> thanks to Natgrid.
>>
>> Natgrid, the brainchild of Home Minister P Chidambaram, is based on
>> the US model. It will integrate the existing 21 databases with Central
>> and state government agencies and other organisations in the public
>> and private sector such as banks, insurance companies, stock
>> exchanges, airlines, railways, telecom service providers, chemical
>> vendors, etc.
>>
>> Eleven government agencies (including RAW, Intelligence Bureau,
>> Revenue Intelligence, Income Tax, etc.) will be able to access
>> sensitive personal information of any individual — such as bank
>> accounts, insurance policies, property owned or rented, travel, income
>> tax returns, driving records, automobiles owned or leased, credit card
>> transactions, stock market trades, phone calls, emails and SMSes,
>> websites visited, etc. A national population registry will be
>> established by the 2011 Census, during which fingerprints and iris
>> scans would be taken along with GPS records of each household.
>>
>> Once the Natgrid is in place, security agencies will need to just feed
>> your name into the system and all information about you will be
>> available at the click of a button. Apart from this, important
>> information that every police or intelligence agency receives will
>> also be fed to the grid, thereby enabling the agencies to coordinate
>> their strategy.
>>
>> According to the home ministry, the Central intelligence agencies and
>> state police have plenty of information that is not shared or because
>> there is no umbrella organisation to collate all the information,
>> which any or all the agencies can share to generate real-time
>> intelligence. The Natgrid enables quick extraction of information,
>> data mining, pattern recognition and flagging 'tripwires' of
>> suspicious or unusual activities.
>>
>> With a budget of Rs. 2,800 crore and a staff of 300, the Natgrid is
>> headed by Raghu Raman, an ex-serviceman who previously headed the
>> Mahindra Special Service Groups, a leading player in risk and
>> governance consulting.
>> Natgrid will integrate existing 21 databases with Central and state
>> government agencies and other organisations
>>
>> BUT WILL the Natgrid really improve our national security? Or will it
>> merely duplicate the existing intelligence mechanism? "Natgrid is all
>> about instant communication," says former Intelligence Bureau director
>> Ajit Doval. "It will help in dissemination of data — everybody will be
>> in the loop. It will function like a power grid, where every state
>> shares power stored in it. A major hurdle in the fight against
>> terrorism is that many intelligence agencies are wary about sharing
>> information with each other. In the US, the CIA does not talk to the
>> FBI, which keeps the NSA at bay. In the UK, the MI5, MI6 and
>> Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) are known to have turf
>> battles. In India, the RAW regards the IB and MEA as more of an enemy
>> than it does the ISI."
>>
>> "The success of the GCHQ and MI5 in identifying militants in Pakistan
>> by matching voice samples from phone conversations intercepted between
>> Pakistan and UK, and comparing them with a database of voice prints of
>> suspects, underscores the need for Natgrid," says Ravi Visvesvaraya,
>> head of C4ISRT (Command, Control, Communications and Computers
>> Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance and Targeting), a defence
>> think tank. "India has had a Joint Intelligence Committee to
>> coordinate between intelligence agencies, but its functioning has been
>> stymied by the very agencies it was supposed to integrate."
>>
>> Training of end-users is also important. "If you want Natgrid to be
>> effective, you have to open it to the last operating level, that is
>> your sub-inspector," says Doval. "The problem will be that most of
>> them are semi-literate and not well versed with computers. So, the
>> chances are that they feed so many things that contaminated data will
>> finish off the good data. To save it, you will need to have trained
>> people all over the country so that they don't fill the grid with
>> trash."
>>
>> What also worries the home ministry is the security of the system and
>> its potential misuse. "A stringent system for verification should be
>> in place," says Doval. "If there is a mole, then terrorists or hackers
>> will be able to download data. Imagine the kind of catastrophic
>> scenario that will create. So, it will be a challenge to look after
>> the security of the system."
>> 'In conjunction with the UID scheme, Natgrid will result in invasion
>> of privacy,' says C4IRST head Ravi Visvesvaraya
>>
>> Some are worried about privacy issues. "In conjunction with the UID
>> scheme, Natgrid will result in invasion of privacy, and personal data
>> will be extremely vulnerable to exploitation by criminals," says
>> Visvesvaraya. "Due to the terror threat, there has been a trend in the
>> judiciary and legislature to make surveillance easier and curtail
>> privacy rights."
>>
>> Today, a citizen has absolutely no legal protection against government
>> surveillance. Though the Supreme Court had ruled against arbitrary
>> surveillance on a petition filed by the People's Union for Civil
>> Liberties in 1996, it was overturned by Parliament with the passage of
>> the Information Technology (Amendment) Act 2008. It is noteworthy that
>> no political party raised objections when the government passed this
>> Act, which removed certain safeguards regarding surveillance.
>>
>> "The assertions that the Natgrid will have mechanisms to prevent
>> leakage and that it will access only abstracted and approved subsets
>> of information cannot be relied upon," warns Visvesvaraya.
>>
>> Indeed, in a pending case about invasion of privacy, the Delhi High
>> Court observed: "We have no clear definition of what is meant by
>> 'invasion of privacy' within the RTI Act." Indeed, we have no
>> equivalent of the UK's Data Protection Act, 1998, Section 2 (Sensitive
>> Personal Data), which reads as follows:
>>
>> In this Act, "sensitive personal data" means information such as:
>> • The racial or ethnic origin of the subject
>> • His/her political opinions
>> • His/her religious beliefs or other beliefs of a similar nature
>> • Whether he/she is a member of a trade union
>> • His/her physical or mental health condition
>> • His/her sexual life
>> • The commission or alleged commission by him/her of any offence
>> • Any proceedings for any offence committed or alleged to have been
>> committed by him/her, the disposal of such proceedings or the court
>> sentencing.
>>
>> "Natgrid is an important step, but there are various handicaps," says
>> a home ministry official. "To ensure that the data does not fall into
>> the wrong hands or is not abused will be a Herculean task the
>> promoters will face."
>>
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