Saturday, December 3, 2011
[rti4empowerment] WORLD ANTICORRUPTION DAY 9TH DEC 2011
Re: [rti4empowerment] WORLD ANTICORRUPTION DAY ON 9TH DEC 2011
Shashi Kumar ji, please put up a summary of discussion and decisions on the blog, mail to me directly as it is not possible to attend this while living in Delhi.
From: SHASHI KUMAR.A.R. <rudreshtechnology@gmail.com>
To: jayashree kumar <jnjayashree62@yahoo.com>; JSD PANI <jsdpani@gmail.com>; pramod halakatti <pramodhalakatti@yahoo.co.in>; omkargkotre@gmail.com; veeresh bellur <veeresh_bellur@yahoo.com>; Vikram Simha <vikramsimha54@yahoo.co.in>; humjanenge@googlegroups.com; rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com; Rakesh B <rakeshbhma@gmail.com>; RTI India <admin@rtiindia.org>; rtitimes@freelists.org
Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2011 12:07 AM
Subject: [rti4empowerment] WORLD ANTICORRUPTION DAY ON 9TH DEC 2011
DEAR FRIENDS ,ALL ARE WELCOME ,ON THE OCASSION OF "WORLD ANTI-CORRUPTION DAY" ON 9TH DEC 2011" KARNATAKA BRASTACHAR VIRODHI RANGA"ALONG WITH THE SUPPORT OF ALL OTHER ORGANISATIONSFIGHTING AGAINST CORRUPTION IN KARNATAKA HOLDING THE FOLLOWINGPROGRAMMES AT LEGISLATURES CONFERENCE HALL [ LH- CONFERENCE HALL ]BEHIND VIDHANA SOUDHA , BANGALOREGROUP DISCUSSIONBETWEEN : 2-30 PM TO 5 PMPRESIDED BY : SRI . H.S. DORESWAMY , FREEDOM FIGHTER , BANGALORECONCLUDING SESSIONFROM 5-15 PM ONWARDSINAUGURATION : HONABLE JUSTICE SRI. SHYLENDRA KUMARHIGH COURT OF KARNATAKA , BANGALORECHIEF GUESTS : SRI. VAIDYANATHAN , PROFESSOR ,INDIAN INSTITUTE OF MANAGEMENT, BANGALORESRI . RAVINDRA RESHME , SENIOR JOURNALIST , BANGALOREPRESIDED BY : SRI.K.R.PET KRISHNA , FORMER SPEAKER ,GOVERNMENT OF KARNATAKA -LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLYPLEASE PARTICIPATE IN LARGE NUMBER AND MAKE THE PROGRAME SUCCESSFULTO BUILD CORRUPTION FREE INDIATHANK YOUWITH REGARDSKARNATAKA BRASTACHAR VIRODHI RANGA &
ALL THE ORGANISATIONS FIGHTING AGAINST CORRUPTION IN KARANTAKANOTE : INVITATION CARD ATTACHED / PLEASE CIRCULATE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE
Re: [rti4empowerment] WORLD ANTICORRUPTION DAY ON 9TH DEC 2011
From: SHASHI KUMAR.A.R. <rudreshtechnology@gmail.com>
To: jayashree kumar <jnjayashree62@yahoo.com>; JSD PANI <jsdpani@gmail.com>; pramod halakatti <pramodhalakatti@yahoo.co.in>; omkargkotre@gmail.com; veeresh bellur <veeresh_bellur@yahoo.com>; Vikram Simha <vikramsimha54@yahoo.co.in>; humjanenge@googlegroups.com; rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com; Rakesh B <rakeshbhma@gmail.com>; RTI India <admin@rtiindia.org>; rtitimes@freelists.org
Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2011 12:07 AM
Subject: [rti4empowerment] WORLD ANTICORRUPTION DAY ON 9TH DEC 2011
[rti4empowerment] WORLD ANTICORRUPTION DAY ON 9TH DEC 2011
RE: [HumJanenge] Request for attending Hearing in CIC
I hope you are in excellent state of health.
Please send me the details. I shall attend on your behalf on 07.12.2011 the case before Mrs. Sushma Singh.
Please send a signed Authority Letter authorising me to attend on your behalf in case any body raises an
objection on my presence.
Sincerely,
H.D.Goyal
55, Kamakshi Apartments, Plot No. 28,
Sector-6, Dwarka, New Delhi- 110075
Phone: 9312881883
> Subject: [HumJanenge] Request
> From: drsandgupta@gmail.com
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>
> Can any one of this group take pains to attend the hearing for a case
> in the CIC before Mrs Sushma Singh on 7.12.2011. I will send the case
> and the submissions to be made.
> regards
> sandeep
>
> --
> Dr. Sandeep Kumar Gupta
> 989, Sector 15-A, Opposite bishnoi Colony, Hisar-125001, INDIA
> Phone: 91-99929-31181
Friday, December 2, 2011
Re: [HumJanenge] Can there be a worser depiction of our PM?
Friends,Please see the link to a cartoon in leading Tamil Newspaper Dinamani: http://epaper.dinamani.com/newsview.aspx?parentid=25891&boxid=21441781&archive=false. The man in black suit holding the chain is MNC and the chain is 'FDI in Retail'. I do not have to tell you who is on the other end of the chain.Is there any place for us to hide?M.G.Devasahayam
RE: [HumJanenge] WHAT IS OUR PROBLEM ?
Very well said. What is the way out? Galvanizing Public Opinion – but How? The latest is the move to push up MPs in the Roll of Precedence, including bringing MPs at par with Chief Justice of High Court ! A large number of MPs have Criminal background, and even those convicted are ‘hosted’ by State under Section 8(4) of Representation of People Act 1951. Surely both the Houses of Parliament will demonstrate OBEDIENCE as Peoples’ representatives reflecting latter’s will ! What is the way out?
Regards,
KN
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Subject: [HumJanenge] WHAT IS OUR PROBLEM ?
Thursday, December 1, 2011
Re: [HumJanenge] No Whistleblower bill for RTI Activist : Rajya Sabha informed
Mahesh Khera
Founder KTMT, India
From: Janardan Sharma <contactjps@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2011 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] No Whistleblower bill for RTI Activist : Rajya Sabha informed
well said. the polititians have been getting away in the name of doing ""honest mistake"" and doing thing"" in good faith"". who cares if the people continue to suffer for their actions done under these terms. he must be asked what all is included in honest mistake.
From: Dwarakanath <dwarakanathdm@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] No Whistleblower bill for RTI Activist : Rajya Sabha informed
Kapil Sibal statements that " honest mitake" is a mistake. A mistake is always a mistake. A honest mistake, after taking Oath is a dishonesgt mitake and needs to be dealt with. People who afford to make honest mistakes are predominantlhy negligent in their responsibility and care free in their acts. One cannot mistake 6 for 9 and send to gallows and claim honest mistake. People who make honest mistakes should resign from their jobs and repent all their life for mistake they did. Even honest mistakes can spoil the wholoe life time of the affected persons. If laws can be made which are all convenient to the Government, we do not deserve to have any laws. No laws can be made to suit the convenience of individuals. It should be for the entire nation and no exception in it. If you need exeception you do not deserve to be in the nation as equal to others. You cannot claim any special status in our constitution. Everybody is equal and every mistake needs to be dealt with properly. dwarakanathdm
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:49 AM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Clearly, the govt. does not want to embolden the RTI activists by bringing whistleblowers protection bill.The Prime Minister, Dr. Manmohan Singh took many months to realize that existing laws are "adequate to provide for safety and security to all citizens including RTI activists." Earlier statements of various leaders and ministers, or even probably of PM were only gimmicks to assuage the sentiments of activists after the murder of numbers of social and RTI activists.
It is a case of backtracking from the promise by the govt. Till now, PM was saying that the introduction of RTI Act is a big achievement of his Govt. even from the rampart of Lal Quila. Mrs. Sonia Gandhi, Chairperson, UPA has many times exhorted the citizens to use the RTI in a big way. Now, we can use it to our peril instead of brining transprancy and reforming system. This is another matter that the recent big scams were unearthened because of the RTI Act and govt. may recover millions of millions only in 2G.
Yesterday, Mr. Kapil Sibal, Union Minister said Fear of graft taint stalling decisions. 'Protect Officials From Being Penalized For Honest Mistakes'.Recently, there was a statement that a (telecom?) company can be penalized from 0 to 50 crore but the govt. shall penalize it for 50 crore so that the charge of taking graft from the Company can not be made. It is being present in a way as if imposing maximum penalty is a bad thing.
When in 70s, Jai Prakash Narayan wanted to fight corruption, he had to fight the govt., in 80s, when V P Singh raised issue of commission, he had to fight the govt. and recently. For fighting against corruption this year, both Anna Hazare and Baba Ramdev have to fight with the govt. Even, both had to risk their lives by a due to fast and police action at Ramlila ground respectively. All the times, our govt. was headed by the oldest national party of which Mahatma Gandhi ji is the tallest leader. Now, he may definitaly be ruing on the conduct of his followers.
From: lokesh batra <batra_lokesh@yahoo.com>
To:
Sent: Monday, 28 November 2011 10:54 PM
Subject: ALERT : No Whistleblower bill for RTI Activist : Rajya Sabha informed
Note:On 14 Oct 2011, Hon'ble Prime Minister while addressing the 6th RTI Convention had stated :"I would like to mention here our initiative to enact a legislation for the protection of Whistleblowers which would further strengthen the Right to Information. We expect this law to be enacted in the next few months and it would, among other things, help in prevention of violence against those who seek to expose wrongdoings in our public administration."Now, on Nov 24, 2011, the Minister of State in the Prime Minister's Office V. Narayanasamy said in a written statement in Rajya Sabha :"xxxxxx there was no need for a separate policy to deal with such cases as existing laws were considered 'adequate to provide for safety and security to all citizens including RTI activists'."You may like to express your views.Go ahead and read IANS story belowPM's address of 14 Oct 2011 to RTI convention can be read on Link below:BestCommodore Lokesh. K. Batra (Retd.)Social & RTI ActivistBringChange--------------------------IANS storyStates told to act against RTI attackersNew Delhi, Nov 24 (IANS) State governments should 'promptly' investigate victimization of RTI activists and take action against their attackers, the Rajya Sabha was informed Thursday.Minister of State in the Prime Minister's Office V. Narayanasamy said in a written statement that at least nine RTI activists had been allegedly killed so far in the country.'There have been some reports in the media that some persons have been assaulted in the last two years allegedly due to their role as RTI activists,' the minister said.He identified nine such victims: Ramdas Pati Ghadegasonkar, Babbu Singh, Amit Jethwa, Datta Patil, Vittal Gite, Sola Ranga Rao, Arun Sawant, Shehla Masood and Nadim Sayeed.Narayanasamy said there was no need for a separate policy to deal with such cases as existing laws were considered 'adequate to provide for safety and security to all citizens including RTI activists'.He said the central government had drawn the attention of states to media reports about 'the victimization of people who use RTI to expose corruption and irregularities in administration.'States have been requested that if any such instances comes to the notice, it should be properly inquired into and action taken against the offenders.'----------
Re: [HumJanenge] No Whistleblower bill for RTI Activist : Rajya Sabha informed
well said. the polititians have been getting away in the name of doing ""honest mistake"" and doing thing"" in good faith"". who cares if the people continue to suffer for their actions done under these terms. he must be asked what all is included in honest mistake.
From: Dwarakanath <dwarakanathdm@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] No Whistleblower bill for RTI Activist : Rajya Sabha informed
Kapil Sibal statements that " honest mitake" is a mistake. A mistake is always a mistake. A honest mistake, after taking Oath is a dishonesgt mitake and needs to be dealt with. People who afford to make honest mistakes are predominantlhy negligent in their responsibility and care free in their acts. One cannot mistake 6 for 9 and send to gallows and claim honest mistake. People who make honest mistakes should resign from their jobs and repent all their life for mistake they did. Even honest mistakes can spoil the wholoe life time of the affected persons. If laws can be made which are all convenient to the Government, we do not deserve to have any laws. No laws can be made to suit the convenience of individuals. It should be for the entire nation and no exception in it. If you need exeception you do not deserve to be in the nation as equal to others. You cannot claim any special status in our constitution. Everybody is equal and every mistake needs to be dealt with properly. dwarakanathdm
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:49 AM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Clearly, the govt. does not want to embolden the RTI activists by bringing whistleblowers protection bill.The Prime Minister, Dr. Manmohan Singh took many months to realize that existing laws are "adequate to provide for safety and security to all citizens including RTI activists." Earlier statements of various leaders and ministers, or even probably of PM were only gimmicks to assuage the sentiments of activists after the murder of numbers of social and RTI activists.
It is a case of backtracking from the promise by the govt. Till now, PM was saying that the introduction of RTI Act is a big achievement of his Govt. even from the rampart of Lal Quila. Mrs. Sonia Gandhi, Chairperson, UPA has many times exhorted the citizens to use the RTI in a big way. Now, we can use it to our peril instead of brining transprancy and reforming system. This is another matter that the recent big scams were unearthened because of the RTI Act and govt. may recover millions of millions only in 2G.
Yesterday, Mr. Kapil Sibal, Union Minister said Fear of graft taint stalling decisions. 'Protect Officials From Being Penalized For Honest Mistakes'.Recently, there was a statement that a (telecom?) company can be penalized from 0 to 50 crore but the govt. shall penalize it for 50 crore so that the charge of taking graft from the Company can not be made. It is being present in a way as if imposing maximum penalty is a bad thing.
When in 70s, Jai Prakash Narayan wanted to fight corruption, he had to fight the govt., in 80s, when V P Singh raised issue of commission, he had to fight the govt. and recently. For fighting against corruption this year, both Anna Hazare and Baba Ramdev have to fight with the govt. Even, both had to risk their lives by a due to fast and police action at Ramlila ground respectively. All the times, our govt. was headed by the oldest national party of which Mahatma Gandhi ji is the tallest leader. Now, he may definitaly be ruing on the conduct of his followers.
From: lokesh batra <batra_lokesh@yahoo.com>
To:
Sent: Monday, 28 November 2011 10:54 PM
Subject: ALERT : No Whistleblower bill for RTI Activist : Rajya Sabha informed
Note:On 14 Oct 2011, Hon'ble Prime Minister while addressing the 6th RTI Convention had stated :"I would like to mention here our initiative to enact a legislation for the protection of Whistleblowers which would further strengthen the Right to Information. We expect this law to be enacted in the next few months and it would, among other things, help in prevention of violence against those who seek to expose wrongdoings in our public administration."Now, on Nov 24, 2011, the Minister of State in the Prime Minister's Office V. Narayanasamy said in a written statement in Rajya Sabha :"xxxxxx there was no need for a separate policy to deal with such cases as existing laws were considered 'adequate to provide for safety and security to all citizens including RTI activists'."You may like to express your views.Go ahead and read IANS story belowPM's address of 14 Oct 2011 to RTI convention can be read on Link below:BestCommodore Lokesh. K. Batra (Retd.)Social & RTI ActivistBringChange--------------------------IANS storyStates told to act against RTI attackersNew Delhi, Nov 24 (IANS) State governments should 'promptly' investigate victimization of RTI activists and take action against their attackers, the Rajya Sabha was informed Thursday.Minister of State in the Prime Minister's Office V. Narayanasamy said in a written statement that at least nine RTI activists had been allegedly killed so far in the country.'There have been some reports in the media that some persons have been assaulted in the last two years allegedly due to their role as RTI activists,' the minister said.He identified nine such victims: Ramdas Pati Ghadegasonkar, Babbu Singh, Amit Jethwa, Datta Patil, Vittal Gite, Sola Ranga Rao, Arun Sawant, Shehla Masood and Nadim Sayeed.Narayanasamy said there was no need for a separate policy to deal with such cases as existing laws were considered 'adequate to provide for safety and security to all citizens including RTI activists'.He said the central government had drawn the attention of states to media reports about 'the victimization of people who use RTI to expose corruption and irregularities in administration.'States have been requested that if any such instances comes to the notice, it should be properly inquired into and action taken against the offenders.'----------
Re: [rti4empowerment] SPAM WARNING: Re: Sad News...................................Satish Kumar Kapoor
From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: kapoorssatish@yahoo.com; humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>; rti4empowerment <rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com>; rti_india <rti_india@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 7:53 PM
Subject: [rti4empowerment] SPAM WARNING: Re: Sad News...................................Satish Kumar Kapoor
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Sarbajit
Hello,
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can't be charged by the hotel as I already reported it as a stolen card,and the card company had canceled it, so i can only get a new one when we make it back home safely.
We've reported the incident to the embassy and the Police but to my dismay they seem not bothered...their response was just too casual.Our flight leaves in few hours but We've got to settle our bills before We're allowed to leave..I was wondering if you could loan me Money I'll refund it to you as soon as we arrive home just need to clear our Hotel bills and get the next plane home, As soon as we get home I'll refund it immediately.
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Thanks,
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[HumJanenge] SPAM WARNING: Re: Sad News...................................Satish Kumar Kapoor
It seems Mr Satish Kumar Kapoor's email ID has also been hacked. Please dont reply to this message or send any money.
Sarbajit
Hello,
This had to come in a hurry and it has left me and my family in a devastating state.. I'm contacting you as I need your urgent financial assistance, my family and I made a trip to London,United Kingdom just for a short vacation tour but, it all ended ugly. our belongings such as credit card, cell phone, jewelries and cash all stolen from us, as we got mugged by some unknown gun men. My credit card,
can't be charged by the hotel as I already reported it as a stolen card,and the card company had canceled it, so i can only get a new one when we make it back home safely.
We've reported the incident to the embassy and the Police but to my dismay they seem not bothered...their response was just too casual.Our flight leaves in few hours but We've got to settle our bills before We're allowed to leave..I was wondering if you could loan me Money I'll refund it to you as soon as we arrive home just need to clear our Hotel bills and get the next plane home, As soon as we get home I'll refund it immediately.
Write me so I can let you know how to send it.
Thanks,
Satish
[rti4empowerment] SPAM WARNING: Re: Sad News...................................Satish Kumar Kapoor
It seems Mr Satish Kumar Kapoor's email ID has also been hacked. Please dont reply to this message or send any money.
Sarbajit
Hello,
This had to come in a hurry and it has left me and my family in a devastating state.. I'm contacting you as I need your urgent financial assistance, my family and I made a trip to London,United Kingdom just for a short vacation tour but, it all ended ugly. our belongings such as credit card, cell phone, jewelries and cash all stolen from us, as we got mugged by some unknown gun men. My credit card,
can't be charged by the hotel as I already reported it as a stolen card,and the card company had canceled it, so i can only get a new one when we make it back home safely.
We've reported the incident to the embassy and the Police but to my dismay they seem not bothered...their response was just too casual.Our flight leaves in few hours but We've got to settle our bills before We're allowed to leave..I was wondering if you could loan me Money I'll refund it to you as soon as we arrive home just need to clear our Hotel bills and get the next plane home, As soon as we get home I'll refund it immediately.
Write me so I can let you know how to send it.
Thanks,
Satish