To:
CGM/(CSD) RBI
22-June-2014
Dear Sir,
I would appreciate a formal reply clearly intimating why I have not
received a speaking order signed by any Dy. Governor of RBI on my long
pending grievance and the first appeal I preferred to him.
I am clearly informing you and putting RBI on notice that Dr
K.C.Chakraborty (former Dy. Governor/RBI) was a corrupt public servant
who had been bribed by State Bank of India not to process my formal
first appeal.
I am clearly informing you and putting RBI on notice that Mr. K.P.
John Kutty is a corrupt public servant who had been bribed by State
Bank of India not to allow my my formal first appeal to be processed.
I am clearly informing you and putting RBI on notice that the then
Banking Ombudsman Delhi who issued my order is a corrupt public
servant who had been bribed by State Bank of India to issue it.
I am clearly informing you and putting RBI on notice that the then
Secretary to Banking Ombudsman Delhi who issued my order is a corrupt
public servant who had been bribed by State Bank of India to issue it.
I look forward to any response the Reserve Bank of India wishes to
make on my long pending public grievance against SBI which only awaits
an order signed by any Deputy Governor of RBI to dispose of it
finally.
NB: That the facts of my complaint to the BO Delhi and my subsequent
appeal were true and correct is borne out from that RBI subsequently
directed all Banks to issue "Basic Banking Savings Accounts" solely
based on my grievance, but that does not absolve the above-named
officers to escape from their liability under the Prevention of
Corruption Act and also the Indian Penal Code for forgery, deception,
fraud and cheating etc. which I am increasingly inclined to pursue in
the face of RBI's inability to communicate with me.
Yours faithfully
Sarbajit Roy
National Convenor
India Against Corruption.
B-59 Defence Colony
New Delhi 110024
On 5/24/14, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> To:
> CGM/(CSD) RBI
>
> Dear Sir,
>
> What is the action status on my long pending grievance ?
>
> It is a certainly a matter of concern if Banks like SBI and ICICI Bank
> can get away without issuing no-frill accounts to financially
> disadvantaged persons like myself by corrupting RBI officers.
>
> Yours faithfully
>
> Sarbajit Roy
> National Convenor
> India Against Corruption.
> B-59 Defence Colony
> New Delhi 110024
>
> On 4/28/14, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> To:
>> CGM / CSD (RBI)
>>
>> Dear Sr
>>
>> I am given to understand that o/o former Dy Governor RBI Dr.KCC has fwded
>> my email to you today.
>>
>> Kindly note that I am still awaiting the formal appeal decision in my
>> first
>> appeal against of order of B.O. New Delhi, which is duly signed by a Dy.
>> Governor of RBI.
>>
>> I am aggrieved that some junior officer of RBI replied to me on my appeal
>> and thereafter Dr K.C.Chakraborty consistently ignored all my emails
>> asking
>> that I be given a formal reply under his signature covering all the
>> grounds
>> of my appeal.
>>
>> As this matter involves high level corruption inside RBI, I would greatly
>> appreciate that my long-pending appeal be decided by some other Dy
>> Governor
>> of RBI and the formal order is issued under signature of either some Dy.
>> Governor or the Governor of the Bank.
>>
>> NB: I re-eiterate that I never asked for any compensation whatsoever in
>> the
>> matter and the statement of the BO. Delhi that I asked for Rs. 1 crore
>> compensation is a blatant lie designed to cover up the high-level racket
>> and corruption within RBI.
>>
>> Yours faithfully
>>
>> Sarbajit Roy
>> National Convenor
>> India Against Corruption.
>> B-59 Defence Colony
>> New Delhi 110024
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> To:
>>> Dr K.C.Chakravarty
>>> Dy Governor, Reserve Bank of India
>>>
>>> cc: Ms. Sucheta Dalal / Member RBI Committees on Customer Services
>>>
>>> BY EMAIL
>>>
>>> Respected Sir
>>>
>>> I am again constrained to inform you that I have not received of a
>>> written reply / appeal decision under your signature in the above
>>> cited matter where I had duly filed a formal FIRST APPEAL to yourself
>>> under B.O. scheme in 2010. Neither was I afforded an opportunity of
>>> the usual personal hearing (as I requested) and nor have I received a
>>> speaking order addressing the grounds (NUMBERING OVER 37 DISTINCT
>>> GROUNDS) of my appeal - which is quite strange and shocking for a
>>> banker of your experience.
>>>
>>> As I am given to understand from Ms. Sucheta Dalal's emails that you
>>> are soon to retire from RBI, I request you to kindly pass a proper
>>> order on all the grounds of my first appeal preferred to you and to
>>> stop acting as a sock puppet for rogue banks like SBI and ICICI, whose
>>> pocket you are widely whispered to be in.
>>>
>>> It is a great shame that while you were a Dy Governor/RBI, the largest
>>> banks like SBI and ICICI were allowed to get away from opening
>>> "no-frills" accounts to the disadvantaged sections, while the burden
>>> fell on those smaller banks who could not satisfy you.
>>>
>>> NB: I also hope that you have taken action against the officers in
>>> the Banking Ombudsman Office, Delhi, who had corruptly forged and
>>> fabricated some document that I had asked for Rs. 1 crore as
>>> compensation from SBI, when I had done no such thing. I am clearly
>>> saying that this document was corruptly forged to enable SBI to evade
>>> their statutory obligations under FI and your almost 3 year silence on
>>> my appeal strongly indicates your own personal corruption and
>>> involvement in this racket.
>>>
>>> With best wishes
>>>
>>> Sarbajit Roy
>>> (Expert on Financial Inclusion)
>>> Convenor - FIPS Forum (http://www.fipsforum.org) [forum for Financial
>>> Inclusion and Payment Systems]
>>> National Convenor "India Against Corruption" (
>>> www.indiaagainstcorruption.org.in)
>>>
>>> On 7/7/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > CONFIDENTIAL / PRIVATE / URGENT
>>> >
>>> > To:
>>> > Dr K.C.Chakravarty
>>> > Dy Governor, Reserve Bank of India
>>> >
>>> > cc: Ms. Sucheta Dalal / Member RBI Committees on Customer Services
>>> >
>>> > BY EMAIL
>>> >
>>> > Respected Sir
>>> >
>>> > I am again constrained to inform you that I have not received of a
>>> written
>>> > reply / appeal decision under your signature in the above cited matter
>>> > where
>>> > I had duly filed a formal FIRST APPEAL to yourself under B.O. scheme
>>> > LAST
>>> > YEAR.. Neither have I been afforded an opportunity of the usual
>>> > personal
>>> > hearing nor have I received a speaking order addressing the grounds of
>>> > my
>>> > appeal which is quite strange and shocking.
>>> >
>>> > I am given to understand from the latest issue of MONEYLIFE magazine
>>> > that
>>> > apparently mine is not a unique incident / complaint but there is a
>>> > rash
>>> of
>>> > such incidents all over India which the RBI is actively covering up. I
>>> > am
>>> > attaching herewith the URL to the concerned article concerning
>>> > Damodaran
>>> > Committee.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://moneylife.in/article/damodaran-committee-submits-report-after-hc-threat-to-summon-rbi-governor/17930.html
>>> >
>>> > I am accordingly constrained to call upon you to consider and pass a
>>> > speaking order on my actual FIRST APPEAL filed to RBI and long pending
>>> with
>>> > you. In the alternative my remedy would lie under sections 7 through
>>> > 13
>>> of
>>> > the Prevention of Corruption Act as I have every reason to believe now
>>> that
>>> > the very highest levels of RBI have been corrupted by the errant
>>> > banks
>>> to
>>> > the detriment of the small depositors like me who are not even being
>>> given
>>> > NO-FRILLS savings accounts by Banks like the SBI with your collusion,
>>> > connivance. and corruption.
>>> >
>>> > Yours faithfully
>>> >
>>> > Sarbajit Roy
>>> > New Delhi
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> CONFIDENTIAL / PRIVATE / URGENT
>>> >>
>>> >> To:
>>> >> Dr K.C.Chakravarty
>>> >> Dy Governor, Reserve Bank of India
>>> >>
>>> >> BY EMAIL
>>> >>
>>> >> Respected Sir
>>> >>
>>> >> Please find below an email chain. Since it concerns vigilance
>>> >> aspects,
>>> >> I
>>> >> am
>>> >> taking the liberty of sending a copy to your official email ID.
>>> >>
>>> >> I am concerned that your junior officers at Mumbai and New Delhi have
>>> >> suppressed my preferred appeal in the above cited matter from you so
>>> >> as
>>> >> to
>>> >> prevent your taking action on it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Most humbly
>>> >>
>>> >> Sarbajit Roy
>>> >> New Delhi
>>> >>
>>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>>> >> Date: Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:41 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re:
>>> >> To: "Johnkutty, K P" <kpjohnkutty@rbi.org.in>,
>>> >> kcchakrabarty@rbi.org.in
>>> >> Cc: "Singh, Tarun" <tksingh@rbi.org.in>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 28-April-2011
>>> >>
>>> >> Dear Mr Kutty
>>> >>
>>> >> Kindly take careful notice as follows
>>> >>
>>> >> 1) I did not claim for Rs. 1 crore as compensation. It is a blatant
>>> >> lie
>>> >> on
>>> >> part of Banking Ombudsman Delhi to say so. This was ground "B" in my
>>> >> preferred Appeal which was never taken up by Dy. Governor
>>> >> K.C.Chakravarty.
>>> >> It is pertinent that the online BO complaint form has over 447
>>> >> serious
>>> >> HTML
>>> >> coding errors which I had listed in my appeal.
>>> >>
>>> >> 2) Ground "A" in my Appeal was that the Banking Ombudsman Delhi
>>> >> Office
>>> >> had
>>> >> corruptly dismissed my complaint under a section of the BO scheme
>>> >> which
>>> >> left
>>> >> me no appeal option. I had further stated here that this corrupt
>>> >> action
>>> >> was
>>> >> done at the behest of State Bank of India officers who had bribed the
>>> >> Banking Ombudsman Delhi or his officers. Significantly Dy Governor
>>> >> Chakravarty had not considered this ground either or any of the 37
>>> >> other
>>> >> grounds of my preferred appeal.
>>> >>
>>> >> 3) In the circumstances, it appears to me that corrupt officers
>>> >> within
>>> >> RBI
>>> >> have conspired to ensure that Dy Governor Chakravarty was prevented
>>> >> from
>>> >> actually reading my preferred appeal. Instead these corrupt officers
>>> have
>>> >> trumped up letters based on my reminder email to EVADE the
>>> >> consideration
>>> >> of
>>> >> my first appeal. I say this has been done so as to allow State Bank
>>> >> of
>>> >> India
>>> >> to derive huge financial profit by evading providing no-frills
>>> >> accounts
>>> >> to
>>> >> financially disadvantaged citizens like myself.
>>> >>
>>> >> 4) Your point about other grievance redressal authorities is very
>>> >> well
>>> >> taken. If I do not receive a decision on actual preferred appeal
>>> >> within
>>> >> 15
>>> >> days I intend to initiate vigilance action against each and every
>>> dealing
>>> >> officer / Governor of RBI be he ever so high. I would therefore
>>> >> strongly
>>> >> advise you to ensure that Dy Governor Chakravarty receives this
>>> >> email.
>>> >>
>>> >> Warmly
>>> >>
>>> >> Sarbajit Roy
>>> >> New Delhi
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Johnkutty, K P
>>> >> <kpjohnkutty@rbi.org.in>wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *ž¸¸£·¸ú¡¸ ¹£{¸¨¸Ä ¤¸ÿˆÅ*
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________RESERVE BANK OF INDIA_______________________
>>> >>> www.rbi.org.in
>>> >>>
>>> >>> CSD/BOS/
>>> >>> /13.23.02/2010-11 April 28,
>>> >>> 2011
>>> >>>
>>> >>> * *
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *Shri Sarbajit Roy*
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *B-59 Defence Colony *
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *New Delhi - 110 024*
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Dear Sir,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *Appeal against the decision of the Banking Ombudsman (BO), New
>>> >>> Delhi
>>> >>> *
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *Complaint No.201011014001145 against State Bank of India*
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _________________________________________________________
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Please refer to your e-mail dated 24.04.11 on the above subject.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2. We forward herewith a copy of our letter CSD/BOS/7750
>>> >>> /13.23.02/2010-11
>>> >>> dated 03.03.2011 which is self explanatory.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 3. As the compensation of Rs one crore claimed by you is beyond the
>>> >>> scope
>>> >>> of the BO Scheme, there is no remedy available under the scheme. The
>>> >>> jurisdiction of the Appellate Authority is the same as that of the
>>> >>> BO.
>>> >>> He
>>> >>> can also do not handle the complaint under the Scheme. Hence, as
>>> >>> indicated
>>> >>> in our letter referred to above, you are left with no remedy under
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> Scheme. You are at liberty to approach any other grievance redressal
>>> >>> authority in accordance with the law.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 4. *No further correspondence will be entertained in future in this
>>> >>> regard. *
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yours faithfully,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> (K.P.John Kutty)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Deputy General Manager
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *KPJohn Kutty*
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *Deputy General Manager*
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *Reserve Bank of India*
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *Customer Service Department*
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *Central Office*
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *Mumbai*
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *Tel 22641202*
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>
>
Saturday, June 21, 2014
Re: [IAC#RG] SUPREME COURT CRYING FOR JUSTICE
Q. Is it a sufficient reason to hold him as an accused.
Ans: YES. The cheque was possibly a "post dated" cheque issued at the time the accused was a director in the company (-2009) There are conflicting judgments on liability of directors, but the singular admitted fact that in 2010 the accused still promoted the company to 3rd parties arouses suspicion that the resignation in 2009 was contrived.In any case, this mailing list a not a forum for speculation on selectively provided facts, we have the WWW.INDIARESISTS.IN forum for that
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 11:13 PM, neeraj singla <nsingla@hotmail.com> wrote:
I will bring a curious case for your kind perusal
This is a case of cheque bounce under section 138 of NI Act
A cheque was issued by a complainant company to an accused company. The cheque bounce took place sometime in Oct 2010.
The accused had resigned from the directorship of the accused company in Nov 2009. He produced certified copy of Form 32 from Registrar of companies, to prove that he had resigned in Nov 2009. In addition he was never a paid employee of the accused company. The cheque was not signed by him.
He was not a signatory in the agreement under which the cheques were issued. He was not even mentioned in the agreement.
Only that he made an email to a third party ( not to the complainant ) in Apr 2010, promoting the accused company.
Status : You will appreciate that he has been made an accused in an MM court and when he challenged it in high court, the hon judge, based on the Apr 2010 e-mail gave a decision to examine whether the accused was a director or not and ordered for continuation of proceedings of the trial court. And the case is since pending in both the courts.
Q. Is it a sufficient reason to hold him as an accused.
best regards
Neeraj Singla
Re: [IAC#RG] WHY FOREIGN FUNDING FOR NGOs ?
IB is an exempted organisation u/s 24 RTI Act, to the extent that they
don't exist officially , don't have a CPIO, and don't have any section
4 RTI disclosure.
If you disagree and file your RTI appeals, you will find that the CIC
is allegedly (self declared) ex-IB (DG), as is another IC. So don't
waste you time or ours.
(PS: If anyone else wants to file an RTI on this, contact me offlist)
Sarbajit
On 6/21/14, Vilas Aglawe <vilas21nov@gmail.com> wrote:
> YES WHY NOT ? THERE IS RTI ( RIGHT TO INFORMATION ) USE THAT FACILITY AND
> YOU CAN GET ALL INFORMATION WITHIN 21 DAYS FROM THE CONCERN DEPARTMENT. ASK
> THEM ALL QUESTIONS WHICH ARE IN YOUR MIND , THEY HAVE TO REPLY .
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 6:52 PM, willy <insafdelhi@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Get link of the so-called IB report at:
>> http://www.insafindia.com/2014/06/foreign-hands-insaf-indicted-by-so.html
don't exist officially , don't have a CPIO, and don't have any section
4 RTI disclosure.
If you disagree and file your RTI appeals, you will find that the CIC
is allegedly (self declared) ex-IB (DG), as is another IC. So don't
waste you time or ours.
(PS: If anyone else wants to file an RTI on this, contact me offlist)
Sarbajit
On 6/21/14, Vilas Aglawe <vilas21nov@gmail.com> wrote:
> YES WHY NOT ? THERE IS RTI ( RIGHT TO INFORMATION ) USE THAT FACILITY AND
> YOU CAN GET ALL INFORMATION WITHIN 21 DAYS FROM THE CONCERN DEPARTMENT. ASK
> THEM ALL QUESTIONS WHICH ARE IN YOUR MIND , THEY HAVE TO REPLY .
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 6:52 PM, willy <insafdelhi@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Get link of the so-called IB report at:
>> http://www.insafindia.com/2014/06/foreign-hands-insaf-indicted-by-so.html
Re: [IAC#RG] PDF COPY of secret IB NGO report "Impact of NGOs on Development"
Dear Anil
The Union of India has no record of Mr. Safi Ahsan Rizvi being in the
IB or posted to Mr. Chidambaram as OSD. This can be verified from his
IPS number 19891004 (his wife is 19901013) and they are now both
Uttarakhand IPS cadre. The IB does not exist, there is no such animal.
Since the "leaked" copy circulating in public domain (its a numbered
controlled copy) ) is the one supposedly sent to the Finance Minister
- Arun Jaitley, this seems (on the surface) to be a Congress inspired
report to fix all their former pinko "allies" who have moved over to
the Aam Aadmi Party or BJP camps, and pin the blame on the BJP.
Its certainly very curious that notorious anti-development
anti-national foreign financed Congress spies like Aruna "Roy", her
so-called husband "Bunker" Roy, Shekhar Singh, Harsh Mander, and so on
have been left out of this report.That this report is soft on US and
Chinese sponsored activists (aka spies), and instead focuses on the
European funded ones is worth noting for how it divides the pinko
activist camp(s).
Its also noteworthy that this IB report does not name the present
Cabinet Secretary (Ajit Kumar Seth) and Syamal Kr. Sarkar (Secy DoPT)
as 2 of India's most corrupt serving babus who were throughout acting
as facilitators for the above-named gaggle of anti-nationals during
the Sonia regime. Its also pertinent that this pair haven't been
flushed down the toilet as yet (along with Raghuram Rajan) by Sh.
Narendra Modi.
Sarbajit
On 6/21/14, Anil Maheshwari <anil.ht@gmail.com> wrote:
> Smt. Sarah Afzal Rizvi is a 2008 batch IPS officer of Gujrat cadre. How can
> a person of six years seniority become Joint Director of I. B.? in fact, the
> signatory of the report is Mr. S.A. Rizvi who has earned PGDM from IIM
> Ahmedabad. His only link with Gujarat. He was born in U.P. he is a U.P.
> cadre IPS officer. Before he came to the I.B. he was O.S.D. to mr. P.
> Chidambaram when he was the Union Home minister. His wife Mrs. Anju Gupta is
> also an IPS officer and she testified against Advani before the Labransh
> Commission. Hope, mr. Roy will correct.
>
> Cheers!!
>
> Anil Maheshwari, Noida
> anil.ht@gmail.com
> Cell: 09810908522
>
> Sent from my iPad
The Union of India has no record of Mr. Safi Ahsan Rizvi being in the
IB or posted to Mr. Chidambaram as OSD. This can be verified from his
IPS number 19891004 (his wife is 19901013) and they are now both
Uttarakhand IPS cadre. The IB does not exist, there is no such animal.
Since the "leaked" copy circulating in public domain (its a numbered
controlled copy) ) is the one supposedly sent to the Finance Minister
- Arun Jaitley, this seems (on the surface) to be a Congress inspired
report to fix all their former pinko "allies" who have moved over to
the Aam Aadmi Party or BJP camps, and pin the blame on the BJP.
Its certainly very curious that notorious anti-development
anti-national foreign financed Congress spies like Aruna "Roy", her
so-called husband "Bunker" Roy, Shekhar Singh, Harsh Mander, and so on
have been left out of this report.That this report is soft on US and
Chinese sponsored activists (aka spies), and instead focuses on the
European funded ones is worth noting for how it divides the pinko
activist camp(s).
Its also noteworthy that this IB report does not name the present
Cabinet Secretary (Ajit Kumar Seth) and Syamal Kr. Sarkar (Secy DoPT)
as 2 of India's most corrupt serving babus who were throughout acting
as facilitators for the above-named gaggle of anti-nationals during
the Sonia regime. Its also pertinent that this pair haven't been
flushed down the toilet as yet (along with Raghuram Rajan) by Sh.
Narendra Modi.
Sarbajit
On 6/21/14, Anil Maheshwari <anil.ht@gmail.com> wrote:
> Smt. Sarah Afzal Rizvi is a 2008 batch IPS officer of Gujrat cadre. How can
> a person of six years seniority become Joint Director of I. B.? in fact, the
> signatory of the report is Mr. S.A. Rizvi who has earned PGDM from IIM
> Ahmedabad. His only link with Gujarat. He was born in U.P. he is a U.P.
> cadre IPS officer. Before he came to the I.B. he was O.S.D. to mr. P.
> Chidambaram when he was the Union Home minister. His wife Mrs. Anju Gupta is
> also an IPS officer and she testified against Advani before the Labransh
> Commission. Hope, mr. Roy will correct.
>
> Cheers!!
>
> Anil Maheshwari, Noida
> anil.ht@gmail.com
> Cell: 09810908522
>
> Sent from my iPad
RE: [IAC#RG] SUPREME COURT CRYING FOR JUSTICE
I will bring a curious case for your kind perusal
This is a case of cheque bounce under section 138 of NI Act
A cheque was issued by a complainant company to an accused company. The cheque bounce took place sometime in Oct 2010.
The accused had resigned from the directorship of the accused company in Nov 2009. He produced certified copy of Form 32 from Registrar of companies, to prove that he had resigned in Nov 2009. In addition he was never a paid employee of the accused company. The cheque was not signed by him.
He was not a signatory in the agreement under which the cheques were issued. He was not even mentioned in the agreement.
Only that he made an email to a third party ( not to the complainant ) in Apr 2010, promoting the accused company.
Status : You will appreciate that he has been made an accused in an MM court and when he challenged it in high court, the hon judge, based on the Apr 2010 e-mail gave a decision to examine whether the accused was a director or not and ordered for continuation of proceedings of the trial court. And the case is since pending in both the courts.
Q. Is it a sufficient reason to hold him as an accused.
best regards
Neeraj Singla
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 22:12:49 +0530
From: raviforjustice@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
CC: sudhanshuranjan@hotmail.com; sharmarobby@hotmail.com; prasaddwarika@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] SUPREME COURT CRYING FOR JUSTICE
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This is a case of cheque bounce under section 138 of NI Act
A cheque was issued by a complainant company to an accused company. The cheque bounce took place sometime in Oct 2010.
The accused had resigned from the directorship of the accused company in Nov 2009. He produced certified copy of Form 32 from Registrar of companies, to prove that he had resigned in Nov 2009. In addition he was never a paid employee of the accused company. The cheque was not signed by him.
He was not a signatory in the agreement under which the cheques were issued. He was not even mentioned in the agreement.
Only that he made an email to a third party ( not to the complainant ) in Apr 2010, promoting the accused company.
Status : You will appreciate that he has been made an accused in an MM court and when he challenged it in high court, the hon judge, based on the Apr 2010 e-mail gave a decision to examine whether the accused was a director or not and ordered for continuation of proceedings of the trial court. And the case is since pending in both the courts.
Q. Is it a sufficient reason to hold him as an accused.
best regards
Neeraj Singla
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 22:12:49 +0530
From: raviforjustice@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
CC: sudhanshuranjan@hotmail.com; sharmarobby@hotmail.com; prasaddwarika@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] SUPREME COURT CRYING FOR JUSTICE
It is the courts and courts only which are responsible not only for the subversion of the justice delivery system but for the increasing lawlessness and crimes. Just ask how many times the apex court had entertained bail applications of Raja and Kanimozhi? And now they are shamelessly trying to pass on the buck to the Parliament. Why courts, even quasi judicial organisation have been following the bad example of courts and have been only draining the exchequer without delivering even 1 percent of what they are tasked to deliver. The district forum in Palakkad had been adjourning a consumer complaint of a complainant in the adjoining district involving a doctor for years on end. Almost after ten years I sought info on the status of the complaint. I got the info that it is pending. But at the next date for hearing it was dismissed! I complained to the minister for consumer affairs and the chief minister here. Nothing happened, except that in response to the complaint to the CM the President of the Forum said that the stipulation of three months for disposing a complaint is only a guideline and that was it! For details please read my blogs:
Obnoxious functioning of consumer fora/commissions- letter to minister (of 8/1/11) at
Chief MInister's Contact Program-consumer fora at
ACCESS TO JUSTICE-A STAKE HOLDER'S REPORT at
FRAUD IN GOVERNANCE AND REDRESSAL OF PUBLIC GRIEVANCES at
Eight years of right to information: Are those responsible for governance idiots or traitors? at
and more...
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On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Forum for Fast Justice <fastjustice@gmail.com> wrote:
SUPREME COURT CRYING FOR JUSTICE
Appex Court appeals to the Parliament for legislating appropriate laws and to the Government for rationalising decision making process for stemming vicious and frivolous cases and appeals being filed. Read the last paras in the Surbroto Roy Sahara's recent Supreme Court Judgement.
(Bhagvanji Raiyani)
Chairman & Managing Trustee
Forum For Fast Justice
"REPORTABLE"
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF INDIA
CRIMINAL ORIGINAL JURISDICTION
WRIT PETITION (CRIMINAL) NO. 57 OF 2014
Subrata Roy Sahara …. Petitioner
versus
Union of India and others …. Respondents
J U D G M E N T
Jagdish Singh Khehar, J.
149. A lot of these hearings consumed this Court's full working day. Hearing of the main case, consumed one full part, of the entire summer vacation (of the Supreme Court) of the year 2012. For the various orders passed by us, including the order dated 31.8.2012 (running into 269 printed pages) and the present order (running into 205 printed pages), substantial Judge hours were consumed. In this country, judicial orders are prepared, beyond Court hours, or on non-working days. It is apparent, that not a hundred, but hundreds of Judge hours, came to be spent in the instant single Sahara Group litigation, just at the hands of the Supreme Court. This abuse of the judicial process, needs to be remedied. We are, therefore of the considered view, that the legislature needs to give a thought, to a very serious malady, which has made strong inroads into the Indian judicial system.
150. The Indian judicial system is grossly afflicted, with frivolous litigation. Ways and means need to be evolved, to deter litigants from their compulsive obsession, towards senseless and ill-considered claims. One needs to keep in mind, that in the process of litigation, there is an innocent sufferer on the other side, of every irresponsible and senseless claim. He suffers long drawn anxious periods of nervousness and restlessness, whilst the litigation is pending, without any fault on his part. He pays for the litigation, from out of his savings (or out of his borrowings), worrying that the other side may trick him into defeat, for no fault of his. He spends invaluable time briefing counsel and preparing them for his claim. Time which he should have spent at work, or with his family, is lost, for no fault of his. Should a litigant not be compensated for, what he has lost, for no fault? The suggestion to the legislature is, that a litigant who has succeeded, must be compensated by the one, who has lost. The suggestion to the legislature is to formulate a mechanism, that anyone who initiates and continues a litigation senselessly, pays for the same. It is suggested that the legislature should consider the introduction of a "Code of Compulsory Costs".
151. We should not be taken to have suggested, that the cost of litigation should be enhanced. It is not our suggestion, that Court fee or other litigation related costs, should be raised. Access to justice and related costs, should be as free and as low, as possible. What is sought to be redressed is a habituation, to press illegitimate claims. This practice and pattern is so rampant, that in most cases, disputes which ought to have been settled in no time at all, before the first Court of incidence, are prolonged endlessly, for years and years, and from Court to Court, upto the highest Court.
152. This abuse of the judicial process is not limited to any particular class of litigants. The State and its agencies litigate endlessly upto the highest Court, just because of the lack of responsibility, to take decisions. So much so, that we have started to entertain the impression, that all administrative and executive decision making, are being left to Courts, just for that reason. In private litigation as well, the concerned litigant would continue to approach the higher Court, despite the fact that he had lost in every Court hitherto before. The effort is not to discourage a litigant, in whose perception, his cause is fair and legitimate. The effort is only to introduce consequences, if the litigant's perception was incorrect, and if his cause is found to be, not fair and legitimate, he must pay for the same. In the present setting of the adjudicatory process, a litigant, no matter how irresponsible he is, suffers no consequences. Every litigant, therefore likes to take a chance, even when counsel's advice is otherwise.
153. Does the concerned litigant realize, that the litigant on the other side has had to defend himself, from Court to Court, and has had to incur expenses towards such defence? And there are some litigants who continue to pursue senseless and ill-considered claims, to somehow or the other, defeat the process of law. The present case, is a classic illustration of what we wish to express. Herein the regulating authority has had to suffer litigation from Court to Court, incurring public expense in its defence, against frivolous litigation. Every order was consistently and systematically disobeyed. Every order passed by the SEBI was assailed before the next higher authority, and then before this Court. Even though High Courts have no jurisdiction, in respect of issues regulated by the SEBI Act, some matters were taken to the High Court of Judicature at Allahabad (before its Lucknow Bench). Every such endeavour resulted in failure, and was also sometimes, accompanied with strictures. Even after the matter had concluded, after the controversy had attained finality, the judicial process is still being abused, for close to two years. A conscious effort on the part of the legislature in this behalf, would serve several purposes. It would, besides everything else, reduce frivolous litigation. When the litigating party understands, that it would have to compensate the party which succeeds, unnecessary litigation will be substantially reduced. At the end of the day, Court time lost is a direct loss to the nation. It is about time, that the legislature should evolve ways and means to curtail this unmindful activity. We are sure, that an eventual determination, one way or the other, would be in the best interest of this country, as also, its countrymen.
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(K.S. Radhakrishnan)
…………………………….J.
(Jagdish Singh Khehar)
New Delhi;
May 6, 2014.
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Re: [IAC#RG] SUPREME COURT CRYING FOR JUSTICE
It is the courts and courts only which are responsible not only for the subversion of the justice delivery system but for the increasing lawlessness and crimes. Just ask how many times the apex court had entertained bail applications of Raja and Kanimozhi? And now they are shamelessly trying to pass on the buck to the Parliament. Why courts, even quasi judicial organisation have been following the bad example of courts and have been only draining the exchequer without delivering even 1 percent of what they are tasked to deliver. The district forum in Palakkad had been adjourning a consumer complaint of a complainant in the adjoining district involving a doctor for years on end. Almost after ten years I sought info on the status of the complaint. I got the info that it is pending. But at the next date for hearing it was dismissed! I complained to the minister for consumer affairs and the chief minister here. Nothing happened, except that in response to the complaint to the CM the President of the Forum said that the stipulation of three months for disposing a complaint is only a guideline and that was it! For details please read my blogs:
Obnoxious functioning of consumer fora/commissions- letter to minister (of 8/1/11) at
Chief MInister's Contact Program-consumer fora at
ACCESS TO JUSTICE-A STAKE HOLDER'S REPORT at
FRAUD IN GOVERNANCE AND REDRESSAL OF PUBLIC GRIEVANCES at
Eight years of right to information: Are those responsible for governance idiots or traitors? at
and more...
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On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Forum for Fast Justice <fastjustice@gmail.com> wrote:
SUPREME COURT CRYING FOR JUSTICE
Appex Court appeals to the Parliament for legislating appropriate laws and to the Government for rationalising decision making process for stemming vicious and frivolous cases and appeals being filed. Read the last paras in the Surbroto Roy Sahara's recent Supreme Court Judgement.
(Bhagvanji Raiyani)
Chairman & Managing Trustee
Forum For Fast Justice
"REPORTABLE"
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF INDIA
CRIMINAL ORIGINAL JURISDICTION
WRIT PETITION (CRIMINAL) NO. 57 OF 2014
Subrata Roy Sahara …. Petitioner
versus
Union of India and others …. Respondents
J U D G M E N T
Jagdish Singh Khehar, J.
149. A lot of these hearings consumed this Court's full working day. Hearing of the main case, consumed one full part, of the entire summer vacation (of the Supreme Court) of the year 2012. For the various orders passed by us, including the order dated 31.8.2012 (running into 269 printed pages) and the present order (running into 205 printed pages), substantial Judge hours were consumed. In this country, judicial orders are prepared, beyond Court hours, or on non-working days. It is apparent, that not a hundred, but hundreds of Judge hours, came to be spent in the instant single Sahara Group litigation, just at the hands of the Supreme Court. This abuse of the judicial process, needs to be remedied. We are, therefore of the considered view, that the legislature needs to give a thought, to a very serious malady, which has made strong inroads into the Indian judicial system.
150. The Indian judicial system is grossly afflicted, with frivolous litigation. Ways and means need to be evolved, to deter litigants from their compulsive obsession, towards senseless and ill-considered claims. One needs to keep in mind, that in the process of litigation, there is an innocent sufferer on the other side, of every irresponsible and senseless claim. He suffers long drawn anxious periods of nervousness and restlessness, whilst the litigation is pending, without any fault on his part. He pays for the litigation, from out of his savings (or out of his borrowings), worrying that the other side may trick him into defeat, for no fault of his. He spends invaluable time briefing counsel and preparing them for his claim. Time which he should have spent at work, or with his family, is lost, for no fault of his. Should a litigant not be compensated for, what he has lost, for no fault? The suggestion to the legislature is, that a litigant who has succeeded, must be compensated by the one, who has lost. The suggestion to the legislature is to formulate a mechanism, that anyone who initiates and continues a litigation senselessly, pays for the same. It is suggested that the legislature should consider the introduction of a "Code of Compulsory Costs".
151. We should not be taken to have suggested, that the cost of litigation should be enhanced. It is not our suggestion, that Court fee or other litigation related costs, should be raised. Access to justice and related costs, should be as free and as low, as possible. What is sought to be redressed is a habituation, to press illegitimate claims. This practice and pattern is so rampant, that in most cases, disputes which ought to have been settled in no time at all, before the first Court of incidence, are prolonged endlessly, for years and years, and from Court to Court, upto the highest Court.
152. This abuse of the judicial process is not limited to any particular class of litigants. The State and its agencies litigate endlessly upto the highest Court, just because of the lack of responsibility, to take decisions. So much so, that we have started to entertain the impression, that all administrative and executive decision making, are being left to Courts, just for that reason. In private litigation as well, the concerned litigant would continue to approach the higher Court, despite the fact that he had lost in every Court hitherto before. The effort is not to discourage a litigant, in whose perception, his cause is fair and legitimate. The effort is only to introduce consequences, if the litigant's perception was incorrect, and if his cause is found to be, not fair and legitimate, he must pay for the same. In the present setting of the adjudicatory process, a litigant, no matter how irresponsible he is, suffers no consequences. Every litigant, therefore likes to take a chance, even when counsel's advice is otherwise.
153. Does the concerned litigant realize, that the litigant on the other side has had to defend himself, from Court to Court, and has had to incur expenses towards such defence? And there are some litigants who continue to pursue senseless and ill-considered claims, to somehow or the other, defeat the process of law. The present case, is a classic illustration of what we wish to express. Herein the regulating authority has had to suffer litigation from Court to Court, incurring public expense in its defence, against frivolous litigation. Every order was consistently and systematically disobeyed. Every order passed by the SEBI was assailed before the next higher authority, and then before this Court. Even though High Courts have no jurisdiction, in respect of issues regulated by the SEBI Act, some matters were taken to the High Court of Judicature at Allahabad (before its Lucknow Bench). Every such endeavour resulted in failure, and was also sometimes, accompanied with strictures. Even after the matter had concluded, after the controversy had attained finality, the judicial process is still being abused, for close to two years. A conscious effort on the part of the legislature in this behalf, would serve several purposes. It would, besides everything else, reduce frivolous litigation. When the litigating party understands, that it would have to compensate the party which succeeds, unnecessary litigation will be substantially reduced. At the end of the day, Court time lost is a direct loss to the nation. It is about time, that the legislature should evolve ways and means to curtail this unmindful activity. We are sure, that an eventual determination, one way or the other, would be in the best interest of this country, as also, its countrymen.
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(Jagdish Singh Khehar)
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May 6, 2014.
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Re: [IAC#RG] PDF COPY of secret IB NGO report "Impact of NGOs on Development"
Smt. Sarah Afzal Rizvi is a 2008 batch IPS officer of Gujrat cadre. How can a person of six years seniority become Joint Director of I. B.? in fact, the signatory of the report is Mr. S.A. Rizvi who has earned PGDM from IIM Ahmedabad. His only link with Gujarat. He was born in U.P. he is a U.P. cadre IPS officer. Before he came to the I.B. he was O.S.D. to mr. P. Chidambaram when he was the Union Home minister. His wife Mrs. Anju Gupta is also an IPS officer and she testified against Advani before the Labransh Commission. Hope, mr. Roy will correct.
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On 21-Jun-2014, at 7:02 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Editor saab
>
> Please find the DOWNLOAD LINK to the TOP-SECRET copy of IB NGO report
> "Impact of NGOs on Development" dated 3-June-2014 authored by Jt Director
> IB - "S.A.Rizvi", aka Smt. Sarah Afzal Rizvi a Gujarat cadre IPS officer.
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/humjanenge/attach/dd1875728a4c220b/IB-Report-NGO.pdf?part=0.1&authuser=0
>
> I take no responsibility for the authenticity of this document, which,
> however, is obtained from an exclusive mailing list of international police
> officers and intelligence community professionals.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Onkar <editoronkar@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Can we get the full report of IB on NGOs?
>> Can anybody help?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Onkareshwar Pandey
>> Managaing Editor
>> i9 Media
>> 09910150119
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Roy Laifungbam <roy.laifungbam@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for your response, Sucheta Dalal
>>>
>>> I would humbly like to inquire how you, and in what capacity, have
>>> ascertained and certified that all the contents of this "report" are
>>> accurate and authentic?
>>>
>>> Roy Laifungbam
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18 June 2014 22:49, Sucheta Dalal <sucheta@moneylife.in> wrote:
>>>
>>>> An excellent response. Let me just correct one point -- the IB report is
>>>> accurate and authentic!
>>>>
>>>> Sucheta Dalal
>>>> Managing Editor
>>>>
>>>> On 18-Jun-2014, at 8:42 PM, willy <insafdelhi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I fully agree with Sucheta Dalal. NGOs hardly get funds in India unlike
>>>> in the West. None for those who challenge the developmental model of growth
>>>> and defend democratic rights. Once you associate with the anti POSCO
>>>> movement or anti Nuclear power plants to oppose massive displacement of
>>>> people + enormous ecological devastation, no corporate NGO or government
>>>> department will fund you.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding monitoring of foreign funded NGOs is concerned, most in this
>>>> list are not at all aware of the facts:
>>>> 1. The law regulating foreign funded NGOs was brought in by Indira
>>>> Gandhi (Chidambaram etc. were nowhere). UPA2 amended the law making it more
>>>> stringent.
>>>> 2. Any NGO desiring to receive foreign funds has to be registered under
>>>> FCRA - which is issued by the MHA after a IB (SIB- subsidiary investigation
>>>> bureau) inquiry.
>>>> 3. Every fcra registered NGO has to submit audited accounts every year,
>>>> failing which their fcra gets canceled. Details of receipts and expenditure
>>>> of NGOs are there on the MHA-fcra website.
>>>> 4. the fcra dept in MHA regularly checks activities of NGOs through
>>>> field reports from SIB. If necessary they visit or even demand information
>>>> through a template-questionnaire.
>>>>
>>>> It is still not known if the "IB leaked report" floated in the web via
>>>> some media* is an IB report*. The Home Minister has denied of seeing
>>>> any such report - which allegedly went directly to the PM.
>>>> Even if true, there is no real evidence of 'foreign hand' in the report,
>>>> excepting funding. Many NGOs believe in an economically equitable,
>>>> ecological sustainable and democratically just society. They believe in
>>>> opposing projects devastating the people and ecology. Where is the foreign
>>>> hand in this? The govt needs to give evidence of actions of *NGOs being
>>>> dictated by donors*, not of those NGOs who get funds on the basis of
>>>> their own ideological commitments.
>>>>
>>>> The GDP-mania of the UPA, NDA and most parties will only ride roughshod
>>>> over those criticising them. Can you imagine over 7000 people charged with
>>>> sedition in Tamil Nadu for anti Koodankulam protests? Even the colonial
>>>> empire did not need to unleash such state repression. If this mania
>>>> continues, there will be no place for activists or even another
>>>> Rabindranath Tagore to pen 'Muktdhara' and talk of the curse of dams - this
>>>> will be a threat to India's Economic Security.
>>>>
>>>> Willy - INSAF (www.insafindia.com)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18 June 2014 15:27, Vinita Vishwas Deshmukh <vinitapune@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sucheta's comments are so valid. Many a time people hesitate to
>>>>> appreciate work of NGO in India, leave alone donate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Sucheta Dalal <sucheta@moneylife.in>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mr Purohit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about the fact that Indians dont even donate? We hear so much
>>>>>> talk about misuse of funds by NGOs, but nothing about beneficiaries NEVER
>>>>>> ever contributing to keep NGOs going. India has no concept of reciprocity
>>>>>> and help. That is why, even after years of work, NGOs will never become
>>>>>> self sufficient. All over the world, recipients, especially in domains like
>>>>>> ours where we deliver specific financial benefit -- helping people get
>>>>>> lakhs or crores of rupees back for victims of misselling etc, dont even
>>>>>> contribute 1% back to the NGO as a donation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this is the situation when we deal with middle class, rich doctors,
>>>>>> consultants, CEOs of companies and celebrities -- how much worse would it
>>>>>> be with NGOs that work with people who do not have funds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think pointing fingers is easy …. Sometimes it would be good to hold
>>>>>> a mirror to ourselves too. Nothing personal about this to anyone -- it is a
>>>>>> general comment about our society, our attitude of entitlement and our
>>>>>> inability to ever reciprocate even when we are beneficiaries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sucheta Dalal
>>>>>> Managing Editor
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On 21-Jun-2014, at 7:02 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Editor saab
>
> Please find the DOWNLOAD LINK to the TOP-SECRET copy of IB NGO report
> "Impact of NGOs on Development" dated 3-June-2014 authored by Jt Director
> IB - "S.A.Rizvi", aka Smt. Sarah Afzal Rizvi a Gujarat cadre IPS officer.
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/humjanenge/attach/dd1875728a4c220b/IB-Report-NGO.pdf?part=0.1&authuser=0
>
> I take no responsibility for the authenticity of this document, which,
> however, is obtained from an exclusive mailing list of international police
> officers and intelligence community professionals.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Onkar <editoronkar@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Can we get the full report of IB on NGOs?
>> Can anybody help?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Onkareshwar Pandey
>> Managaing Editor
>> i9 Media
>> 09910150119
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Roy Laifungbam <roy.laifungbam@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for your response, Sucheta Dalal
>>>
>>> I would humbly like to inquire how you, and in what capacity, have
>>> ascertained and certified that all the contents of this "report" are
>>> accurate and authentic?
>>>
>>> Roy Laifungbam
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18 June 2014 22:49, Sucheta Dalal <sucheta@moneylife.in> wrote:
>>>
>>>> An excellent response. Let me just correct one point -- the IB report is
>>>> accurate and authentic!
>>>>
>>>> Sucheta Dalal
>>>> Managing Editor
>>>>
>>>> On 18-Jun-2014, at 8:42 PM, willy <insafdelhi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I fully agree with Sucheta Dalal. NGOs hardly get funds in India unlike
>>>> in the West. None for those who challenge the developmental model of growth
>>>> and defend democratic rights. Once you associate with the anti POSCO
>>>> movement or anti Nuclear power plants to oppose massive displacement of
>>>> people + enormous ecological devastation, no corporate NGO or government
>>>> department will fund you.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding monitoring of foreign funded NGOs is concerned, most in this
>>>> list are not at all aware of the facts:
>>>> 1. The law regulating foreign funded NGOs was brought in by Indira
>>>> Gandhi (Chidambaram etc. were nowhere). UPA2 amended the law making it more
>>>> stringent.
>>>> 2. Any NGO desiring to receive foreign funds has to be registered under
>>>> FCRA - which is issued by the MHA after a IB (SIB- subsidiary investigation
>>>> bureau) inquiry.
>>>> 3. Every fcra registered NGO has to submit audited accounts every year,
>>>> failing which their fcra gets canceled. Details of receipts and expenditure
>>>> of NGOs are there on the MHA-fcra website.
>>>> 4. the fcra dept in MHA regularly checks activities of NGOs through
>>>> field reports from SIB. If necessary they visit or even demand information
>>>> through a template-questionnaire.
>>>>
>>>> It is still not known if the "IB leaked report" floated in the web via
>>>> some media* is an IB report*. The Home Minister has denied of seeing
>>>> any such report - which allegedly went directly to the PM.
>>>> Even if true, there is no real evidence of 'foreign hand' in the report,
>>>> excepting funding. Many NGOs believe in an economically equitable,
>>>> ecological sustainable and democratically just society. They believe in
>>>> opposing projects devastating the people and ecology. Where is the foreign
>>>> hand in this? The govt needs to give evidence of actions of *NGOs being
>>>> dictated by donors*, not of those NGOs who get funds on the basis of
>>>> their own ideological commitments.
>>>>
>>>> The GDP-mania of the UPA, NDA and most parties will only ride roughshod
>>>> over those criticising them. Can you imagine over 7000 people charged with
>>>> sedition in Tamil Nadu for anti Koodankulam protests? Even the colonial
>>>> empire did not need to unleash such state repression. If this mania
>>>> continues, there will be no place for activists or even another
>>>> Rabindranath Tagore to pen 'Muktdhara' and talk of the curse of dams - this
>>>> will be a threat to India's Economic Security.
>>>>
>>>> Willy - INSAF (www.insafindia.com)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18 June 2014 15:27, Vinita Vishwas Deshmukh <vinitapune@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sucheta's comments are so valid. Many a time people hesitate to
>>>>> appreciate work of NGO in India, leave alone donate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Sucheta Dalal <sucheta@moneylife.in>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mr Purohit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about the fact that Indians dont even donate? We hear so much
>>>>>> talk about misuse of funds by NGOs, but nothing about beneficiaries NEVER
>>>>>> ever contributing to keep NGOs going. India has no concept of reciprocity
>>>>>> and help. That is why, even after years of work, NGOs will never become
>>>>>> self sufficient. All over the world, recipients, especially in domains like
>>>>>> ours where we deliver specific financial benefit -- helping people get
>>>>>> lakhs or crores of rupees back for victims of misselling etc, dont even
>>>>>> contribute 1% back to the NGO as a donation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this is the situation when we deal with middle class, rich doctors,
>>>>>> consultants, CEOs of companies and celebrities -- how much worse would it
>>>>>> be with NGOs that work with people who do not have funds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think pointing fingers is easy …. Sometimes it would be good to hold
>>>>>> a mirror to ourselves too. Nothing personal about this to anyone -- it is a
>>>>>> general comment about our society, our attitude of entitlement and our
>>>>>> inability to ever reciprocate even when we are beneficiaries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sucheta Dalal
>>>>>> Managing Editor
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Re: [IAC#RG] WHY FOREIGN FUNDING FOR NGOs ?
YES WHY NOT ? THERE IS RTI ( RIGHT TO INFORMATION ) USE THAT FACILITY AND YOU CAN GET ALL INFORMATION WITHIN 21 DAYS FROM THE CONCERN DEPARTMENT. ASK THEM ALL QUESTIONS WHICH ARE IN YOUR MIND , THEY HAVE TO REPLY .
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 6:52 PM, willy <insafdelhi@gmail.com> wrote:
Get link of the so-called IB report at:
http://www.insafindia.com/2014/06/foreign-hands-insaf-indicted-by-so.html
On 21 June 2014 12:10, Sucheta Dalal <sucheta@moneylife.in> wrote:
I did NOT SAY anything about the contents and veracity of the contents. The question was -- does anyone even know whether the leaked IB report is authentic.I said that I know it is authentic.I would humbly suggest that responses must be read in the context of the query or comment.Sucheta Dalal
Managing Editor
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On 19-Jun-2014, at 4:20 PM, Roy Laifungbam <roy.laifungbam@gmail.com> wrote:Thank you for your response, Sucheta DalalI would humbly like to inquire how you, and in what capacity, have ascertained and certified that all the contents of this "report" are accurate and authentic?Roy LaifungbamPost: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"On 18 June 2014 22:49, Sucheta Dalal <sucheta@moneylife.in> wrote:
An excellent response. Let me just correct one point -- the IB report is accurate and authentic!Sucheta Dalal
Managing Editor
On 18-Jun-2014, at 8:42 PM, willy <insafdelhi@gmail.com> wrote:Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"I fully agree with Sucheta Dalal. NGOs hardly get funds in India unlike in the West. None for those who challenge the developmental model of growth and defend democratic rights. Once you associate with the anti POSCO movement or anti Nuclear power plants to oppose massive displacement of people + enormous ecological devastation, no corporate NGO or government department will fund you.
Regarding monitoring of foreign funded NGOs is concerned, most in this list are not at all aware of the facts:1. The law regulating foreign funded NGOs was brought in by Indira Gandhi (Chidambaram etc. were nowhere). UPA2 amended the law making it more stringent.2. Any NGO desiring to receive foreign funds has to be registered under FCRA - which is issued by the MHA after a IB (SIB- subsidiary investigation bureau) inquiry.
3. Every fcra registered NGO has to submit audited accounts every year, failing which their fcra gets canceled. Details of receipts and expenditure of NGOs are there on the MHA-fcra website.
4. the fcra dept in MHA regularly checks activities of NGOs through field reports from SIB. If necessary they visit or even demand information through a template-questionnaire.
It is still not known if the "IB leaked report" floated in the web via some media is an IB report. The Home Minister has denied of seeing any such report - which allegedly went directly to the PM.
Even if true, there is no real evidence of 'foreign hand' in the report, excepting funding. Many NGOs believe in an economically equitable, ecological sustainable and democratically just society. They believe in opposing projects devastating the people and ecology. Where is the foreign hand in this? The govt needs to give evidence of actions of NGOs being dictated by donors, not of those NGOs who get funds on the basis of their own ideological commitments.
The GDP-mania of the UPA, NDA and most parties will only ride roughshod over those criticising them. Can you imagine over 7000 people charged with sedition in Tamil Nadu for anti Koodankulam protests? Even the colonial empire did not need to unleash such state repression. If this mania continues, there will be no place for activists or even another Rabindranath Tagore to pen 'Muktdhara' and talk of the curse of dams - this will be a threat to India's Economic Security.
Willy - INSAF (www.insafindia.com)On 18 June 2014 15:27, Vinita Vishwas Deshmukh <vinitapune@gmail.com> wrote:Sucheta's comments are so valid. Many a time people hesitate to appreciate work of NGO in India, leave alone donate.On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Sucheta Dalal <sucheta@moneylife.in> wrote:
Mr PurohitWhat about the fact that Indians dont even donate? We hear so much talk about misuse of funds by NGOs, but nothing about beneficiaries NEVER ever contributing to keep NGOs going. India has no concept of reciprocity and help. That is why, even after years of work, NGOs will never become self sufficient. All over the world, recipients, especially in domains like ours where we deliver specific financial benefit -- helping people get lakhs or crores of rupees back for victims of misselling etc, dont even contribute 1% back to the NGO as a donation.If this is the situation when we deal with middle class, rich doctors, consultants, CEOs of companies and celebrities -- how much worse would it be with NGOs that work with people who do not have funds.I think pointing fingers is easy …. Sometimes it would be good to hold a mirror to ourselves too. Nothing personal about this to anyone -- it is a general comment about our society, our attitude of entitlement and our inability to ever reciprocate even when we are beneficiaries.bestSucheta Dalal
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On 15-Jun-2014, at 11:16 PM, rb purohit <rbpurohit4productivity@gmail.com> wrote:Dear All
It is a common knowledge that NGOs misuse funds.
Foreign funds have to be used for specific purposes and a separate account has to be kept. But the same is manipulated. Local funding is also misappropriated. The Charity Commission takes years due to various reasons to correct violations and trustees make hay and make mockery of law.
It is common knowledge that. Culprits more than often go Scot free in this country due to our legal system.
God only is the last resort.
Let us change. Let us overhaul the system before it is too late.
Er Ratanlal Purohit
Consumer ActivistOn 15 Jun 2014 22:26, "SD Windlesh" <sdwindlesh@gmail.com> wrote:
Time has come to make the working of NGOs receiving foreign aids transparent. They have misused the foreign funding to destabilise the Govt. and should not go scot free. Time has come to make them answerable for their misdeed to the public ban their furtherance in the field.On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Sukla Sen <sukla.sen@gmail.com> wrote:
--On 14 June 2014 13:01, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
14/6/14
Dear Mr. Venkataraman
The time has certainly come to closely monitor the activiries of N.GOs
Mr. Chidambaram had initiated the process for NGOs getting foreign funds.The present Govt. will now be expediting this process .
Thiere have been serious allegations of misuse of funds not only for conversion but anti-social activities, terrorism and other anti national activities.
Some NGOs are bound to protest but those who have nothing to hide should welcome if it leads to transparancy in their working.
Banning foreign remittances at present will not be feasible, but as the country becomes financially strong and can meet the needs of NGOs through Govt. aid and volutary contribution, it should be the ultimate goal.
The figure of 20 lakhs seems to be on the higher side. All NGOs have to be registered either with Charity Commissioners or as Registered Societies under the Societies Act. Aid from Govt. is difficult to get and not enough.It will be worthwhile to collect data Statewise and Subject-wise. You will be amazed to see heavy concentration in some states and very small nos in many states.
Getting them under RTI will be a tall order. Even PPP projects are not under RTI. But public opinion should be built for NGOs totally dependent on Govt. or foreign funding.
Regds
JKGaur
Subject: [IAC#RG] WHY FOREIGN FUNDING FOR NGOs ?
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 19:30:43 +0530
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ToIndia Against CorruptionWHY FOREIGN FUNDING FOR NGOs ?
While some NGOs are protesting about the accusation of intelligence bureau that some NGOs receive foreign funds which are misused , the question arises in one's mind immediately as to why these NGOs receive funds from abroad at all. Can they not function well with the money made available to them by the government (around Rs. 950 crores per annum) and by many donors in India ?
While it is true that many NGOs are doing good work in several areas, there is suspicion that quite a number of NGOs in the country view the NGO activities as "business opportunity" perhaps, this explains as to why there are around 20 lakh number of NGOs in the country at present. ( One for every 600 citizens) Several promoters of NGOs who are not employed and who have no known source of income often are seen living in comfortable life style, with posh office facilities and travelling frequently. Obviously, such promoters divert part of the donation made to the NGOs for their personal benefits. It is also believed that under the cover of NGO, the overseas funds are used for conversions and other purposes under the guidance of overseas masters.
NGOs have very crucial role to play, since large percentage of countrymen living below poverty line and exploitation of the innocent people and atrocities against women are increasing.. At the same time, it has to be ensured that bad elements and motivated campaigners do not hide their true colour in the name of NGOs.
Certainly, there is strong case that Government of India should closely monitor the activities of NGOs particularly those receiving funds from abroad and NGOs should be brought under RTI Act.
It would be even appropriate that Government of India should ban the practice of NGOs receiving funds from abroad once for all.
N.S.Venkataraman
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