Re: [HumJanenge] Rules for Improving India using the Right to Information laws

Yes, you and Manoj Kamra etc are starting to understand the process.

RTI is NOT a process to get information (which you can hardly do anything with anyway), but to ASK inconvenient questions which the PA cannot answer (and which we dont want him to answer).

To do this successfully, we must

A) use the PA's own information and processes against them, and get them to start passing the buck to each other and widening the circle..

B) Pose absolutely perfect questions (in the garb of seeking information)

C) Give no chance for the PIO to deny information using any exemption / trick available to him under the RTI Act and Rules.

D) Use the PIOs reply (which you must understand carefully for what it does NOT say) to your best advantage.

By this means we are MISUSING RTI Act (since we dont actually need the information) but are simply posing inconvenient questions and keeping the flame burning. This strategy works on the assumption that there are enough HONEST "babus" who knoiw how to use your RTI to save themselves within their own rules and regulations..

Sarbajit

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Abhimanyu <who.will.file.rti@gmail.com> wrote:

Sarbajit.

in most of the cases they do not give us information but they stop the corruption in that perticular case within 3 days ...repeat ... within only 3 days

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

YOU (???) stopped this pension scam. It is not YOUR place to stop it. It is the job of the Govt (incl. its own agencies) to monitor itself to see that such scams do not occur / continue.

Let me assume for a moment that you are an "RTI activist". How did you USE RTI to stop this scam. (Or did you "mis"use RTI to stop this scam ?). Did you get information and what did you do with it ?

Sarbajit

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:56 AM, sandeep kumar <drsandgupta@gmail.com> wrote:

Sir,
By using RTI, I have been able to stop illegal old age pensions (being
given to dead) to about 1 lakh beneficiaries. A lot of people may be
misusing RTI but a still larger number is using RTI for good cause.

On 10/9/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> RULE # 1:
>
> *RTI Act is not to be used, it is to be "mis"used.*

>
> This simple rule must be strictly followed if one is to achieve anything
> useful using RTI.
>
> Whenever you ask an "RTI activist" why they file RTIs and what they will do
> with the info (if they ever get it), the usual reply they give you is
> because the Govt "babus" are completely corrupt they will a) expose this
> information in the media b) file a PIL. Both these strategies are so hollow
> that it is no wonder that nothing substantial ever gets achieved.The real
> ways for an average citizen to use RTI to make a difference are
> counter-intuitive and firmly grounded in Rule # 1 as stated above.
>

--
Dr. Sandeep Kumar Gupta
989, Sector 15-A, Opposite bishnoi Colony, Hisar-125001, INDIA
Phone: 91-99929-31181

Re: [HumJanenge] Rules for Improving India using the Right to Information laws

Dear Sarbajit Royji,

 

       With the information received by RTI, it should be sent to responsilbe authorities(related govt agencies)  with request to stop such scam in future. After one-two months waiting or sending reminders during one-two months, RTI should be filed to seek action taken on your complaint/request to stop scam.

 

                 Such use will compel them to think over improvements in the prevailing practice.That is, filing complaint and then filing RTI on action  taken on complaint should be continuous cycle . Please suggest whether it will serve the purpose.

 

with regards

manoj k.kamra

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

YOU (???) stopped this pension scam. It is not YOUR place to stop it. It is the job of the Govt (incl. its own agencies) to monitor itself to see that such scams do not occur / continue.

Let me assume for a moment that you are an "RTI activist". How did you USE RTI to stop this scam. (Or did you "mis"use RTI to stop this scam ?). Did you get information and what did you do with it ?

Sarbajit

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:56 AM, sandeep kumar <drsandgupta@gmail.com> wrote:

Sir,
By using RTI, I have been able to stop illegal old age pensions (being
given to dead) to about 1 lakh beneficiaries. A lot of people may be
misusing RTI but a still larger number is using RTI for good cause.

On 10/9/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> RULE # 1:
>
> *RTI Act is not to be used, it is to be "mis"used.*

>
> This simple rule must be strictly followed if one is to achieve anything
> useful using RTI.
>
> Whenever you ask an "RTI activist" why they file RTIs and what they will do
> with the info (if they ever get it), the usual reply they give you is
> because the Govt "babus" are completely corrupt they will a) expose this
> information in the media b) file a PIL. Both these strategies are so hollow
> that it is no wonder that nothing substantial ever gets achieved.The real
> ways for an average citizen to use RTI to make a difference are
> counter-intuitive and firmly grounded in Rule # 1 as stated above.
>

--
Dr. Sandeep Kumar Gupta
989, Sector 15-A, Opposite bishnoi Colony, Hisar-125001, INDIA
Phone: 91-99929-31181

Re: [HumJanenge] IAS officer fined Rs 27K for holding back information

Congratulation to the applicant and the IC.  The IAS/babus are the basis of all coruuption. They should be fined double than junior babu, beside starting the departmental/disciplinar action for not obeying the law.  beniwal

---

From: Sankar Pani <sankarprasadpani@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 9 October 2011 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] IAS officer fined Rs 27K for holding back information

penalty in no circumstance should exceed than that of prescribed
limit.This is the founding principle of penal jurisprudence and i
donot think any authority can overrule. However there are instances
where the defaulting PIO have been ordered to pay comp amount to the
applicant basing on expenses incurred. So here nothing is to be happy
or sad by exceeding ones authority and the info comission donot enjoy
any such discretionary power as enjoyed by writ courts.

On 10/9/11, Hari Goyal <haridgoyal@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mr Anand,
>
> What do you want? just to find faults? First time an IAS officer has been
> fined for withholding information from
> a RTI Applicant. You should be happy if you are against corruption in India
> and consider RTI a tool of some worth.
> As an experienced RTI activist (75 years old) and former Professor of
> Economics in Lal Bahadur Shastri National Academy of
> Administration, Mussoorie (1981-84) know well that most of the officers find
> it safe not to reply or if in some cases they are
> directed by Central Information Commission to reply within 15 or 30 days;
> not to implement the decision/order. It is common
> under the leadership and patronage of Chief Minister of Delhi.
>
> I am Indian Economic Service officer of 1968 Batch and my Contemporary Mr.
> Wajahat Habibullah of 1968 Batch of J & K cadre
> could not do any thing to bring any change through RTI Act in Delhi
> Government's Corruption Scenario.
>
> Please don't find faults that 25k should have been not 27K as per the RTI
> Act. When Chief Information Commissioner is not concerned
> about the spirit of the RTI Act, why should you be?
>
> Dr. H. D. Goyal
> 09.10.2011
>
> Oct 2011 21:57:09 +0530
>> Subject: [HumJanenge] IAS officer fined Rs 27K for holding back
>> information
>> From: acfanand@gmail.com
>> To: acfanand@gmail.com
>>
>> How can a PIO can be penalized for Rs. 27,000?
>>
>> IAS officer fined Rs 27K for holding back information
>>
>> Bangalore Mirror
>>
>> The State Information Commission (SIC) has fined an IAS officer Rs 27000
>> for sitting on a Right to Information (RTI) application and not providing
>> answers even after two years. This is the first such fine in the state.
>> The
>> officer in the dock is the ...
>>
>> http://www.bangaloremirror.com/index.aspx?page=article§id=10&contentid=2011100820111008070555146753e37cb
>>
>> --
>> Anand S.
>> Coordinator, Anti Corruption Forum
>> Bangalore 560 085.
>> Cell No. +91-98450-39699
>                       


--
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PIN-751007
Cell- 9437279278
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Re: [HumJanenge] Rules for Improving India using the Right to Information laws

Sarbajit.

in most of the cases they do not give us information but they stop the corruption in that perticular case within 3 days ...repeat ... within only 3 days

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

YOU (???) stopped this pension scam. It is not YOUR place to stop it. It is the job of the Govt (incl. its own agencies) to monitor itself to see that such scams do not occur / continue.

Let me assume for a moment that you are an "RTI activist". How did you USE RTI to stop this scam. (Or did you "mis"use RTI to stop this scam ?). Did you get information and what did you do with it ?

Sarbajit

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:56 AM, sandeep kumar <drsandgupta@gmail.com> wrote:

Sir,
By using RTI, I have been able to stop illegal old age pensions (being
given to dead) to about 1 lakh beneficiaries. A lot of people may be
misusing RTI but a still larger number is using RTI for good cause.

On 10/9/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> RULE # 1:
>
> *RTI Act is not to be used, it is to be "mis"used.*

>
> This simple rule must be strictly followed if one is to achieve anything
> useful using RTI.
>
> Whenever you ask an "RTI activist" why they file RTIs and what they will do
> with the info (if they ever get it), the usual reply they give you is
> because the Govt "babus" are completely corrupt they will a) expose this
> information in the media b) file a PIL. Both these strategies are so hollow
> that it is no wonder that nothing substantial ever gets achieved.The real
> ways for an average citizen to use RTI to make a difference are
> counter-intuitive and firmly grounded in Rule # 1 as stated above.
>

--
Dr. Sandeep Kumar Gupta
989, Sector 15-A, Opposite bishnoi Colony, Hisar-125001, INDIA
Phone: 91-99929-31181

Re: [HumJanenge] Rules for Improving India using the Right to Information laws

YOU (???) stopped this pension scam. It is not YOUR place to stop it. It is the job of the Govt (incl. its own agencies) to monitor itself to see that such scams do not occur / continue.

Let me assume for a moment that you are an "RTI activist". How did you USE RTI to stop this scam. (Or did you "mis"use RTI to stop this scam ?). Did you get information and what did you do with it ?

Sarbajit

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:56 AM, sandeep kumar <drsandgupta@gmail.com> wrote:

Sir,
By using RTI, I have been able to stop illegal old age pensions (being
given to dead) to about 1 lakh beneficiaries. A lot of people may be
misusing RTI but a still larger number is using RTI for good cause.

On 10/9/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> RULE # 1:
>
> *RTI Act is not to be used, it is to be "mis"used.*

>
> This simple rule must be strictly followed if one is to achieve anything
> useful using RTI.
>
> Whenever you ask an "RTI activist" why they file RTIs and what they will do
> with the info (if they ever get it), the usual reply they give you is
> because the Govt "babus" are completely corrupt they will a) expose this
> information in the media b) file a PIL. Both these strategies are so hollow
> that it is no wonder that nothing substantial ever gets achieved.The real
> ways for an average citizen to use RTI to make a difference are
> counter-intuitive and firmly grounded in Rule # 1 as stated above.
>

--
Dr. Sandeep Kumar Gupta
989, Sector 15-A, Opposite bishnoi Colony, Hisar-125001, INDIA
Phone: 91-99929-31181

Re: [HumJanenge] Rules for Improving India using the Right to Information laws

Sir,
By using RTI, I have been able to stop illegal old age pensions (being
given to dead) to about 1 lakh beneficiaries. A lot of people may be
misusing RTI but a still larger number is using RTI for good cause.

On 10/9/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> RULE # 1:
>
> *RTI Act is not to be used, it is to be "mis"used.*
>
> This simple rule must be strictly followed if one is to achieve anything
> useful using RTI.
>
> Whenever you ask an "RTI activist" why they file RTIs and what they will do
> with the info (if they ever get it), the usual reply they give you is
> because the Govt "babus" are completely corrupt they will a) expose this
> information in the media b) file a PIL. Both these strategies are so hollow
> that it is no wonder that nothing substantial ever gets achieved.The real
> ways for an average citizen to use RTI to make a difference are
> counter-intuitive and firmly grounded in Rule # 1 as stated above.
>

--
Dr. Sandeep Kumar Gupta
989, Sector 15-A, Opposite bishnoi Colony, Hisar-125001, INDIA
Phone: 91-99929-31181

Re: [HumJanenge] IAS officer fined Rs 27K for holding back information

penalty in no circumstance should exceed than that of prescribed
limit.This is the founding principle of penal jurisprudence and i
donot think any authority can overrule. However there are instances
where the defaulting PIO have been ordered to pay comp amount to the
applicant basing on expenses incurred. So here nothing is to be happy
or sad by exceeding ones authority and the info comission donot enjoy
any such discretionary power as enjoyed by writ courts.

On 10/9/11, Hari Goyal <haridgoyal@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mr Anand,
>
> What do you want? just to find faults? First time an IAS officer has been
> fined for withholding information from
> a RTI Applicant. You should be happy if you are against corruption in India
> and consider RTI a tool of some worth.
> As an experienced RTI activist (75 years old) and former Professor of
> Economics in Lal Bahadur Shastri National Academy of
> Administration, Mussoorie (1981-84) know well that most of the officers find
> it safe not to reply or if in some cases they are
> directed by Central Information Commission to reply within 15 or 30 days;
> not to implement the decision/order. It is common
> under the leadership and patronage of Chief Minister of Delhi.
>
> I am Indian Economic Service officer of 1968 Batch and my Contemporary Mr.
> Wajahat Habibullah of 1968 Batch of J & K cadre
> could not do any thing to bring any change through RTI Act in Delhi
> Government's Corruption Scenario.
>
> Please don't find faults that 25k should have been not 27K as per the RTI
> Act. When Chief Information Commissioner is not concerned
> about the spirit of the RTI Act, why should you be?
>
> Dr. H. D. Goyal
> 09.10.2011
>
> Oct 2011 21:57:09 +0530
>> Subject: [HumJanenge] IAS officer fined Rs 27K for holding back
>> information
>> From: acfanand@gmail.com
>> To: acfanand@gmail.com
>>
>> How can a PIO can be penalized for Rs. 27,000?
>>
>> IAS officer fined Rs 27K for holding back information
>>
>> Bangalore Mirror
>>
>> The State Information Commission (SIC) has fined an IAS officer Rs 27000
>> for sitting on a Right to Information (RTI) application and not providing
>> answers even after two years. This is the first such fine in the state.
>> The
>> officer in the dock is the ...
>>
>> http://www.bangaloremirror.com/index.aspx?page=article&sectid=10&contentid=2011100820111008070555146753e37cb
>>
>> --
>> Anand S.
>> Coordinator, Anti Corruption Forum
>> Bangalore 560 085.
>> Cell No. +91-98450-39699
>

--
Sankar Prasad Pani
A-70, Sahidnagar, Bhubaneswar, Orissa
India
PIN-751007
Cell- 9437279278
http://environmentalrights-sankar.blogspot.com/

[HumJanenge] Rules for Improving India using the Right to Information laws

RULE # 1:

RTI Act is not to be used, it is to be "mis"used.

This simple rule must be strictly followed if one is to achieve anything useful using RTI.

Whenever you ask an "RTI activist" why they file RTIs and what they will do with the info (if they ever get it), the usual reply they give you is because the Govt "babus" are completely corrupt they will a) expose this information in the media b) file a PIL. Both these strategies are so hollow that it is no wonder that nothing substantial ever gets achieved.The real ways for an average citizen to use RTI to make a difference are counter-intuitive and firmly grounded in Rule # 1 as stated above.

RE: [HumJanenge] IAS officer fined Rs 27K for holding back information

Mr Anand,
 
What do you want? just to find faults? First time an IAS officer has been fined for withholding information from
a RTI Applicant. You should be happy if you are against corruption in India and consider RTI a tool of some worth.
As an experienced RTI activist (75 years old) and former Professor of Economics in Lal Bahadur Shastri National Academy of
Administration, Mussoorie (1981-84) know well that most of the officers find it safe not to reply or if in some cases they are
directed by Central Information Commission to reply within 15 or 30 days; not to implement the decision/order. It is common
under the leadership and patronage of Chief Minister of Delhi. 
 
I am Indian Economic Service officer of 1968 Batch and my Contemporary Mr. Wajahat Habibullah of 1968 Batch of J & K cadre 
could not do any thing to bring any change through RTI Act in Delhi Government's Corruption Scenario.       

Please don't find faults that 25k should have been not 27K as per the RTI Act. When Chief Information Commissioner is not concerned
about the spirit of the RTI Act, why should you be?
 
Dr. H. D. Goyal
09.10.2011 
 
Oct 2011 21:57:09 +0530
> Subject: [HumJanenge] IAS officer fined Rs 27K for holding back information
> From: acfanand@gmail.com
> To: acfanand@gmail.com
>
> How can a PIO can be penalized for Rs. 27,000?
>
> IAS officer fined Rs 27K for holding back information
>
> Bangalore Mirror
>
> The State Information Commission (SIC) has fined an IAS officer Rs 27000
> for sitting on a Right to Information (RTI) application and not providing
> answers even after two years. This is the first such fine in the state. The
> officer in the dock is the ...
>
> http://www.bangaloremirror.com/index.aspx?page=article&sectid=10&contentid=2011100820111008070555146753e37cb
>
> --
> Anand S.
> Coordinator, Anti Corruption Forum
> Bangalore 560 085.
> Cell No. +91-98450-39699

Re: [HumJanenge] Gujarat Attracted Just 5% of FDI Since 2000

is this thread  an ANTI GUJRAT CAMPAIGN or part of  congress agenda  ?

 

these RTI mails smack of clear political leanings ...once again  politics is gobbeling the RTI movement .

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:16 PM, mmp kala <mmp_kala@yahoo.com> wrote:

It is simple.  One can, through RTI,seek the information about what was the daily average investment of FDI in the stock market (BSE and NSE) and from this money what is the total  profits  the FDI gained in the last one year. One should not be surprised if it works out at 100% or more per year. --- On Sat, 8/10/11, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> wrote: From: Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Gujarat Attracted Just 5% of FDI Since 2000 To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 8 October, 2011, 12:08 PM Yes,only after some credible piece of evidence comes through to file PIL.Can any one guide in this matter? spm On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:56 AM, mmp kala <mmp_kala@yahoo.com> wrote: I suppose that the rest of the FDI goes to the Stock Market which is an indirect way of looting this country through manipulation of stocks by the Indian (and also foreign) money stacked abroad..  All Indians with some sense of economics must protest against FDI in he stock market which is an indirect way of looting the wealth of the country. --- On Fri, 7/10/11, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> wrote: From: Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Gujarat Attracted Just 5% of FDI Since 2000 To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, 7 October, 2011, 10:13 AM Goa's mining scam and J&K's homicide scam also be commented upon with equal vigour.Selective attack smacks of political leanings,not good for dispassionate RTI activists. spm On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Ravinder Singh <corruptionfree04@gmail.com> wrote: Gujarat Attracted Just 5% of FDI Since 2000   Half Pants may find it difficult to believe in this latest report of DIPP Gujarat attracted just 5% of the FDI in India ($7.3b) out of $133b for India since April2000. This is nowhere close to $950b MOUs signed by Narendra Modi.   http://dipp.nic.in/fdi_statistics/india_FDI_April2011.pdf   Last line as reproduced here is important – per capita expenditure of Gujarat is at par with India average. >> 17.1 Average Monthly Per Capita expenditure Gujarat Rural Rs. 875 India Rs. 772, Gujarat Urban Rs.1471, India Rs.1472.   Gujarat has excellent roads and highways because it has very high percent of National Highways connecting important ports etc. But when it comes to Irrigation Canals Gujarat couldn't commission Narmada Canal system in 15 years since BJP rule or 24 years since projected was started.   Partly Gujarat is helped by fortune – Gems & Jewelry, Petroleum Refining, Cotton are big business in Gujarat and skyrocketing prices of these commodities contributed greatly to Gujarat GDP, and partly Fudging of records by Modi.   In the following growth of Electricity consumption in 2009-10 was just over 2% and 56973MU for 60 million population so per capita consumption is 934 units. But Modi claims 1491 units. Even generation of 69883MU for 60 million population is 1164 units no way even close to 1491 per capita claims of Modi.   2.59 The total consumption of electricity during the year 2009-10 was 56973 Million Units as against 55610 Million Units in the previous year i.e. 2008-09 (including Torrent Power Ltd.). The highest consumption was reported 21517 Million Units (37.77%) by industrial use, followed by 13003 Million Units (22.82%) by agricultural use, 8329 Million Units (14.62%) by domestic use, 8123 Million Units (14.26%) by other uses and 3908 Million Units (6.86%) by commercial use.   2.60 The per capita consumption of electricity during the year 2009-10 was reported to 1491 units as against 1446 units of the previous year 2008-09.   In the following Gujarat State has 37% more installed capacity than Private Sector yet both sectors generate same amount of power and CAG observed Gujarat backed down 30 Billion Units.   5.2 The total installed capacity of the State as on March-2010 was 11758 MW (comprising of 5216 MW by Gujarat State Electricity Corporation Ltd. (GSECL), 3818 MW by Private Sector and 2724 MW by Central Sector Share). >>   5.3 The total Generation of Electricity in the State including GSECL (28507 Million Units), Private sector (28042 Million Units) and Central sector share (13334 Million Units) was 69883 Million Units in the year 2009-10 as against 68962 Million Units generated in the previous year i.e. 2008-09.   SER 2011 Page 136 to 141 http://financedepartment.gujarat.gov.in/budget11_12_pdf/34_Socio_Economic_Review_English.pdf GUJARAT STATE AT A GLANCE COMPARISON WITH INDIA   Gujarat has 5% of India's population.   1.3 Effective Literacy Rate Gujarat 79% India 75%. 1.18 Census Houses Gujarat 5%. 4.1 SGDP of Gujarat 7% of India (But Modi claims 50% more 10%) 5.2 Net Sown Area 6.93% 5.4 Net Irrigated Area 6.71% 5.15 Total Foodgrains – 2.76%. Total Oil 37%, Cotton 31.49% 6.2 Fruits 9.24%. Vegetables 5.33% 9.3 Milk 7.73% Eggs 2.28%.   7. Water Supply 2.19%.   8. Employment public sector 4.42%, PVT 10.87%, Together 6.61%.   11. Net Value Added by Gujarat Industries 11.45%.   14.3/4 Deposits and Advances Scheduled Banks 4.79% and 4.1%.   17.1 Average Monthly Per Capita expenditure Gujarat Rural Rs. 875 India Rs. 772, Gujarat Urban Rs.1471, India Rs.1472.   Ravinder Singh September19, 2011

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Re: [HumJanenge] Success Story of RTI Activism in Orissa

Mr. Pradip Pradhan 

Dont think the facts  narrated by you with reference to Orrissa Information commission is more or less equal to Karntaka information commission , In karnataka information the complainants have to wait more than 6 months and more than 20000 applications pending before the commission , Here each information commissioner is working in his own style , some of them starts at 11 am , but chief information commissioner starts at 11-45 am , Most of them not hearing the cases in the afternoon , Each information commissioner is hearing around 12 to 15 cases per day , but some of them 

finish the hearing within Half an hour and enjoy the salary , perks , priviliges etc , One most corrupt information commissioner recently resigned , Most of the information commissioners are retired bureaucrats they came to information commission to enjoy the facilities , some of the information commissioners are the persons loyal to the ruling party , All of them are trying to protect the government employees from malpractice and exposure of corruption , Instead of providing the information they are teaching and guiding the public information officers how to escape and how to evade to provide the information and how to reject the request of rti applicants , None of the information commissioner interested in bringing transparecny ,good governance corruption free governancce , Even after complaint to the commission and after several hearings the information commissioners are not using section 20 of the act , If the information seeker not present before the commission as on the date of hearing 

the commissioners will not verify whether the information is provided or not , but simply the cases will be closed without providing any information , Getting information in information commissions by using section 18 and 19(3) of the act became very tough , The motto of the information commissioners is to protect the corrupt government servants instead of serving the citizens 

Regards 

ARS KUMAR BE LLB MA JOURNALISM 

SOCIAL ACTIVIST & JOURNALIST 

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Pradip Pradhan <pradippradhan63@gmail.com> wrote:

Success Story of RTI Activism in Orissa

Awareness campaign on RTI is no more in the domain of Orissa Information Commission

Dear friends

 

It is fact that when the Govt. enacts a law, it always  keeps provision  for public awareness campaign about it. Accordingly, Central Govt. while enacting the RTI Act has  made  a clear-cut provision in the law  for    awareness campaign and  fixing responsibility  on  particular institution i.e., State or Central Govt.  Section 26 of the Act says that  the State Govt. shall organize public awareness campaign on RTI, Publish booklets and conduct training for Officials  in the state. As the Information and Public Relation Department is nodal Dept.  in Orissa for implementation of RTI, the Dept. has to organize such awareness programme  in the state. But the tragedy in Orissa is that since beginning, Orissa Information Commission itself was found busy in conducting the awareness programme, publishing booklets and organizing training for officers. The Officials of I and PR Dept. remained sitting idle without contributing anything for propagation of RTI in the state. Neither State Information Commissions nor Central Information Commission was found involved in doing such awareness campaign on RTI in their respective states or at National level.  It is exception in Orissa.  Within long span of five years, it was found Orissa Information Commission (OIC) spending around Rs. 3 crores sanctioned by Govt.  for awareness programme . Nobody knows what the output is.

 

As the OIC  remained busy  in conducting awareness programme  and inaugurating  such programme as Chief Guest  and Chief Speaker,  their primary work  of  disposal  of  complaint and 2^nd appeal cases suffered  and  pendency of  large number of cases was found  increasing  in the office of the Commission. It needs to be mentioned here that  presently  more  than 15000 cases are pending  in the office of the Commission for disposal  because of sheer negligence  and inefficiency of the Information Commissioners   for the same.

 

Being terribly disturbed by  illegal  activities of the Commission,  the Civil Society  Groups  and RTI Activists  in Orissa , since beginning opposed  the Commission's involvement  in the awareness campaign and demanded  their withdrawal  from these activities. But the Commission remained hell-bent in their illegal activities and did not care the criticism of Civil Society Groups. During   that time, a question cropped  up in the mind  of RTI Activists  that  who decides and how the decision has been taken at Govt. level to sanction fund to the Commission for awareness programme.  Accordingly, RTI Application was submitted to the Dept. of I and PR,  Dept. of Planning and Coordination,  Dept. of Finance and office of Orissa Information Commission to get the information   about it. Astonishingly,  the PIOs of all Depts.  Continued  to forward the application each other without providing any information. The PIO, office of Orissa Information Commission supplied the information about only expenditure of the fund.

 

Finding no information through RTI, RTI Activists  decided  to get the information  through  MLAs putting  the question in Orissa Assembly. Accordingly, Mr. Karendra Majhi, Hon'ble MLA raised Non-Star question  in the assembly in the month of August 2009 to the Hon'ble Minister for Information and Public Relation  about how the decision was taken at Govt. level  to sanction fund to the Commission for awareness campaign in the state going against  the provision of RTI Act.  Response of the Minister was " Collection of Information is under Process" . The Information was never supplied to the Hon'ble MLA.

 

Then, RTI Activists  under the banner of Odisha Soochana Adhikar Abhijan  staged a day-long Dharana  before Raj Bhawan, Bhubaneswar on 26.11.2010  demanding  enquiry  into misappropriation of  3.25 crore Rupees by the Commission in the name of awareness programme and appropriate legal action against  the Commission at the earliest.  A memorandum was submitted to Hon'ble Governor, Orissa  in this regard.  At the same time, Mr. Raj Kishor Singh, Political Activist and  a Senior Citizen  has filed  a  PIL Case in Orissa High Court  praying  for enquiry into misappropriation of huge fund for awareness campaign  by CBI  and demanding action  against the Commissioners in March 2011.

 

In the meantime, Mr. Tarun Kanti Mishra former Chief Secretary, Orissa  assumed the responsibility as Chief Information Commissioner in the state in the month of Novemebr'2010. When he was appraised about  the illegal activities of the Commission,  he decided not  to  be involved  in the awareness campaign  and accordingly wrote the letter  to the State Govt.  not to take fund for the same.  Now  the  fund for awareness programme  is available with Dept. of I and PR, Nodal Dept. for RTI  in the state from the financial year  2011-2012.

 

To conclude, it took  five years of protracted struggle of RTI Activists and Civil Society Organisations to force Information Commission to act  as per the letter and spirit of the RTI Act.

 

Regards

 

Pradip Pradhan

M-99378-43482

Date-6.10.2011

 

 

 

[HumJanenge] IAS officer fined Rs 27K for holding back information

How can a PIO can be penalized for Rs. 27,000?

IAS officer fined Rs 27K for holding back information

Bangalore Mirror

The State Information Commission (SIC) has fined an IAS officer Rs 27000
for sitting on a Right to Information (RTI) application and not providing
answers even after two years. This is the first such fine in the state. The
officer in the dock is the ...

http://www.bangaloremirror.com/index.aspx?page=article&sectid=10&contentid=2011100820111008070555146753e37cb

--
Anand S.
Coordinator, Anti Corruption Forum
Bangalore 560 085.
Cell No. +91-98450-39699

Re: [HumJanenge] Gujarat Attracted Just 5% of FDI Since 2000

Hi All,

I am buying a spy cam for 1000/- for the government works. I will be shooting various statements of the officials for the status of the work in the government office.(without their knowing)

What is the legal aspects that I should know before proceeding for such sting operations?

Also I am thinking of posting the same on the web for the public for the shameless officials agony. Also is there any whistle blower protection scheme?

Looking forward for some reply!!

Regards,
Hemant

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

The guidance I can give is as follows

1) All courts in India where a PIL can be filed have a high percentage of corrupt judges. Patriots should therefore not place any hope / reliance on PILs - especially those filed by NGO parasites..

2) The manipulation of stocks markets (and stock markets are manipulated but "efficient" markets) does not prevent Patriots from exploiting the manipulation to their own benefit and preventing the money from going abroad.

I am circulating an eye-opening attachment which had been e-mailed to me from a website about bubble economies and the Aftermath.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes,only after some credible piece of evidence comes through to file PIL.Can any one guide in this matter?

spm

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:56 AM, mmp kala <mmp_kala@yahoo.com> wrote:

I suppose that the rest of the FDI goes to the Stock Market which is an indirect way of looting this country through manipulation of stocks by the Indian (and also foreign) money stacked abroad..  All Indians with some sense of economics must protest against FDI in he stock market which is an indirect way of looting the wealth of the country.

--

Re: [HumJanenge] Gujarat Attracted Just 5% of FDI Since 2000

It is simple.  One can, through RTI,seek the information about what was the daily average investment of FDI in the stock market (BSE and NSE) and from this money what is the total  profits  the FDI gained in the last one year. One should not be surprised if it works out at 100% or more per year. --- On Sat, 8/10/11, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> wrote: From: Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Gujarat Attracted Just 5% of FDI Since 2000 To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 8 October, 2011, 12:08 PM Yes,only after some credible piece of evidence comes through to file PIL.Can any one guide in this matter? spm On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:56 AM, mmp kala <mmp_kala@yahoo.com> wrote: I suppose that the rest of the FDI goes to the Stock Market which is an indirect way of looting this country through manipulation of stocks by the Indian (and also foreign) money stacked abroad..  All Indians with some sense of economics must protest against FDI in he stock market which is an indirect way of looting the wealth of the country. --- On Fri, 7/10/11, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> wrote: From: Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Gujarat Attracted Just 5% of FDI Since 2000 To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, 7 October, 2011, 10:13 AM Goa's mining scam and J&K's homicide scam also be commented upon with equal vigour.Selective attack smacks of political leanings,not good for dispassionate RTI activists. spm On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Ravinder Singh <corruptionfree04@gmail.com> wrote: Gujarat Attracted Just 5% of FDI Since 2000   Half Pants may find it difficult to believe in this latest report of DIPP Gujarat attracted just 5% of the FDI in India ($7.3b) out of $133b for India since April2000. This is nowhere close to $950b MOUs signed by Narendra Modi.   http://dipp.nic.in/fdi_statistics/india_FDI_April2011.pdf   Last line as reproduced here is important – per capita expenditure of Gujarat is at par with India average. >> 17.1 Average Monthly Per Capita expenditure Gujarat Rural Rs. 875 India Rs. 772, Gujarat Urban Rs.1471, India Rs.1472.   Gujarat has excellent roads and highways because it has very high percent of National Highways connecting important ports etc. But when it comes to Irrigation Canals Gujarat couldn't commission Narmada Canal system in 15 years since BJP rule or 24 years since projected was started.   Partly Gujarat is helped by fortune – Gems & Jewelry, Petroleum Refining, Cotton are big business in Gujarat and skyrocketing prices of these commodities contributed greatly to Gujarat GDP, and partly Fudging of records by Modi.   In the following growth of Electricity consumption in 2009-10 was just over 2% and 56973MU for 60 million population so per capita consumption is 934 units. But Modi claims 1491 units. Even generation of 69883MU for 60 million population is 1164 units no way even close to 1491 per capita claims of Modi.   2.59 The total consumption of electricity during the year 2009-10 was 56973 Million Units as against 55610 Million Units in the previous year i.e. 2008-09 (including Torrent Power Ltd.). The highest consumption was reported 21517 Million Units (37.77%) by industrial use, followed by 13003 Million Units (22.82%) by agricultural use, 8329 Million Units (14.62%) by domestic use, 8123 Million Units (14.26%) by other uses and 3908 Million Units (6.86%) by commercial use.   2.60 The per capita consumption of electricity during the year 2009-10 was reported to 1491 units as against 1446 units of the previous year 2008-09.   In the following Gujarat State has 37% more installed capacity than Private Sector yet both sectors generate same amount of power and CAG observed Gujarat backed down 30 Billion Units.   5.2 The total installed capacity of the State as on March-2010 was 11758 MW (comprising of 5216 MW by Gujarat State Electricity Corporation Ltd. (GSECL), 3818 MW by Private Sector and 2724 MW by Central Sector Share). >>   5.3 The total Generation of Electricity in the State including GSECL (28507 Million Units), Private sector (28042 Million Units) and Central sector share (13334 Million Units) was 69883 Million Units in the year 2009-10 as against 68962 Million Units generated in the previous year i.e. 2008-09.   SER 2011 Page 136 to 141 http://financedepartment.gujarat.gov.in/budget11_12_pdf/34_Socio_Economic_Review_English.pdf GUJARAT STATE AT A GLANCE COMPARISON WITH INDIA   Gujarat has 5% of India's population.   1.3 Effective Literacy Rate Gujarat 79% India 75%. 1.18 Census Houses Gujarat 5%. 4.1 SGDP of Gujarat 7% of India (But Modi claims 50% more 10%) 5.2 Net Sown Area 6.93% 5.4 Net Irrigated Area 6.71% 5.15 Total Foodgrains – 2.76%. Total Oil 37%, Cotton 31.49% 6.2 Fruits 9.24%. Vegetables 5.33% 9.3 Milk 7.73% Eggs 2.28%.   7. Water Supply 2.19%.   8. Employment public sector 4.42%, PVT 10.87%, Together 6.61%.   11. Net Value Added by Gujarat Industries 11.45%.   14.3/4 Deposits and Advances Scheduled Banks 4.79% and 4.1%.   17.1 Average Monthly Per Capita expenditure Gujarat Rural Rs. 875 India Rs. 772, Gujarat Urban Rs.1471, India Rs.1472.   Ravinder Singh September19, 2011

Re: [HumJanenge] Gujarat Attracted Just 5% of FDI Since 2000

The guidance I can give is as follows

1) All courts in India where a PIL can be filed have a high percentage of corrupt judges. Patriots should therefore not place any hope / reliance on PILs - especially those filed by NGO parasites..

2) The manipulation of stocks markets (and stock markets are manipulated but "efficient" markets) does not prevent Patriots from exploiting the manipulation to their own benefit and preventing the money from going abroad.

I am circulating an eye-opening attachment which had been e-mailed to me from a website about bubble economies and the Aftermath.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes,only after some credible piece of evidence comes through to file PIL.Can any one guide in this matter?

spm

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:56 AM, mmp kala <mmp_kala@yahoo.com> wrote:

I suppose that the rest of the FDI goes to the Stock Market which is an indirect way of looting this country through manipulation of stocks by the Indian (and also foreign) money stacked abroad..  All Indians with some sense of economics must protest against FDI in he stock market which is an indirect way of looting the wealth of the country.

Re: [HumJanenge] Gujarat Attracted Just 5% of FDI Since 2000

Yes,only after some credible piece of evidence comes through to file PIL.Can any one guide in this matter?

spm

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:56 AM, mmp kala <mmp_kala@yahoo.com> wrote:

I suppose that the rest of the FDI goes to the Stock Market which is an indirect way of looting this country through manipulation of stocks by the Indian (and also foreign) money stacked abroad..  All Indians with some sense of economics must protest against FDI in he stock market which is an indirect way of looting the wealth of the country. --- On Fri, 7/10/11, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> wrote: From: Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Gujarat Attracted Just 5% of FDI Since 2000 To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, 7 October, 2011, 10:13 AM Goa's mining scam and J&K's homicide scam also be commented upon with equal vigour.Selective attack smacks of political leanings,not good for dispassionate RTI activists. spm On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Ravinder Singh <corruptionfree04@gmail.com> wrote: Gujarat Attracted Just 5% of FDI Since 2000   Half Pants may find it difficult to believe in this latest report of DIPP Gujarat attracted just 5% of the FDI in India ($7.3b) out of $133b for India since April2000. This is nowhere close to $950b MOUs signed by Narendra Modi.   http://dipp.nic.in/fdi_statistics/india_FDI_April2011.pdf   Last line as reproduced here is important – per capita expenditure of Gujarat is at par with India average. >> 17.1 Average Monthly Per Capita expenditure Gujarat Rural Rs. 875 India Rs. 772, Gujarat Urban Rs.1471, India Rs.1472.   Gujarat has excellent roads and highways because it has very high percent of National Highways connecting important ports etc. But when it comes to Irrigation Canals Gujarat couldn't commission Narmada Canal system in 15 years since BJP rule or 24 years since projected was started.   Partly Gujarat is helped by fortune – Gems & Jewelry, Petroleum Refining, Cotton are big business in Gujarat and skyrocketing prices of these commodities contributed greatly to Gujarat GDP, and partly Fudging of records by Modi.   In the following growth of Electricity consumption in 2009-10 was just over 2% and 56973MU for 60 million population so per capita consumption is 934 units. But Modi claims 1491 units. Even generation of 69883MU for 60 million population is 1164 units no way even close to 1491 per capita claims of Modi.   2.59 The total consumption of electricity during the year 2009-10 was 56973 Million Units as against 55610 Million Units in the previous year i.e. 2008-09 (including Torrent Power Ltd.). The highest consumption was reported 21517 Million Units (37.77%) by industrial use, followed by 13003 Million Units (22.82%) by agricultural use, 8329 Million Units (14.62%) by domestic use, 8123 Million Units (14.26%) by other uses and 3908 Million Units (6.86%) by commercial use.   2.60 The per capita consumption of electricity during the year 2009-10 was reported to 1491 units as against 1446 units of the previous year 2008-09.   In the following Gujarat State has 37% more installed capacity than Private Sector yet both sectors generate same amount of power and CAG observed Gujarat backed down 30 Billion Units.   5.2 The total installed capacity of the State as on March-2010 was 11758 MW (comprising of 5216 MW by Gujarat State Electricity Corporation Ltd. (GSECL), 3818 MW by Private Sector and 2724 MW by Central Sector Share). >>   5.3 The total Generation of Electricity in the State including GSECL (28507 Million Units), Private sector (28042 Million Units) and Central sector share (13334 Million Units) was 69883 Million Units in the year 2009-10 as against 68962 Million Units generated in the previous year i.e. 2008-09.   SER 2011 Page 136 to 141 http://financedepartment.gujarat.gov.in/budget11_12_pdf/34_Socio_Economic_Review_English.pdf GUJARAT STATE AT A GLANCE COMPARISON WITH INDIA   Gujarat has 5% of India's population.   1.3 Effective Literacy Rate Gujarat 79% India 75%. 1.18 Census Houses Gujarat 5%. 4.1 SGDP of Gujarat 7% of India (But Modi claims 50% more 10%) 5.2 Net Sown Area 6.93% 5.4 Net Irrigated Area 6.71% 5.15 Total Foodgrains – 2.76%. Total Oil 37%, Cotton 31.49% 6.2 Fruits 9.24%. Vegetables 5.33% 9.3 Milk 7.73% Eggs 2.28%.   7. Water Supply 2.19%.   8. Employment public sector 4.42%, PVT 10.87%, Together 6.61%.   11. Net Value Added by Gujarat Industries 11.45%.   14.3/4 Deposits and Advances Scheduled Banks 4.79% and 4.1%.   17.1 Average Monthly Per Capita expenditure Gujarat Rural Rs. 875 India Rs. 772, Gujarat Urban Rs.1471, India Rs.1472.   Ravinder Singh September19, 2011

Re: [HumJanenge] NGO "Haramis"

Who'll handle multi-thousand crore iron ore transportation scam,involving Rly staff and mining companies?The responsibility travels right upto the Rly Minister ,if not,the PM.

Likewise is the massive scam in education sector for manipulating attendace records for receiving hundreds of crores of amount(subsidy?) bu all types of schools from the State Governments ?

Ports in the country are involved in annual tens of thousands of crores of rupees of frauds/corruption cases.

Why should any public post go to anyone w/o recourse to proper transparent process,involving merit-based criteria of selection?

PDS  has been one of the biggest areas of scandal in the country.

MNREGS probably now takes the cake in intensive/extensive nature of corruption.

Whole lot of CG/SG Schemes/programmes are riddled with irregularities/malpractices/corrupt practices.Its just a sampleand not exhaustive listing of imp areas of concern

  Can we form groups of members of this forum to concentrate on one(or,at best two) specific major area of concern,and conduct intense research(always possible through google) and then seek requisite info from the concerned authorities,using RTI)?

What the public and media,with short memories and fleeting attention,can't do we should be able to do so effectively and quickly,to even our own utter surprise !!

     So whats stopping us from jumping into the fray? Leadership qualities demand proactive smart quick decision,rather than wait for some one to take the first step.No hesitation/procrastination pl.

                          I'm choosing the school attendance scandal,to begin with.

              All sub-groups(of this forum) will share their progress/results from time-to-time(no periodicity specified).

Does it all sound incredible?

                           

                                                 ALL OF THIS IS FULLY IN THE REALMS OF POSSIBILITY.

                                                                       PL JUST ACT,RIGHT NOW.

                                                                            INVOLVE EVERYONE.

spmathur IPS DGP retd

BE MBA PhD    

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Dr. Jagnarain Sharma <dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr Mathur & Sarabjit Roy can do the job as has been contemplated in
the debate and our aim is to help sort out problems of needy RTI
Activists, which we all must ensure.
Regards
Dr JN Sharma

On 10/7/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr Mathur
>
> I agree that we should all come together / pool our talents / resources in
> this nation building exercise in structured / efficient manner stated in
> crystal clear political terms..
>
> The first step towards this is to KNOW YOUR ENEMY.
>
> In my view, the enemy is not the government but the people.
>
> It is because people are lazy, ignorant, greedy, scared and divided that we
> perceive the Govt to be corrupt. Actually it is we the people who are
> corrupt and the people are manipulated and divided into doing nothing
> effective by parasites (NGOs, political class, media, religious leaders
> etc.) who tranquilise / mislead them.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Will remain highly obliged to the esteemed members of thee forum.
>> Can we say,at the end of the day,what's it that we've gained,or
>> contributed?
>> Its possible to answer in generalities and in the specific.
>> Lets now look at the specifics.
>> Brilliant people like Sh S Roy could indicate just a few MOST CORRUPT
>> MINISTRIES/DEPARTMENTS/ORGANISATIONS,which need closer scrutiny through
>> RTI.
>> Certain general templates could be created for use of different members
>> for
>> eliciting information that could ten be followed up in appropriate
>> manner(including PIL).
>> Why these organisations are not complying with provisions of sec 4 of the
>> Act in letter and spirit could be discerned.
>> Where the discretion has been misused/abused could be ascertained.
>> Where the normal rules and regulations are seen to be flouted with
>> impunity
>> could be found out.
>> Where unnecessary expenditure is getting incurred(definitely not in public
>> interest) could be known.
>>                This is just a small sample.
>> We can silently,yet surely defeat the evil designs of those perverting the
>> processes of democracy,and disallowing the nation to reach its potential.
>>                                      And ,of course,wherever there're
>> legal
>> hurdles our legal luminaries/Sh Roy included, could be greatly helpful.
>>                             However enjoyable the stray
>> discussions/deliberations may look,the temptations have to be resisted,to
>> work with full focus and dogged determination.
>>                          That's how we'll gain and contribute.That's how
>> we'll feel blessed.
>> spm
>>
>>
>

[HumJanenge] Success Story of RTI Activism in Orissa

Success Story of RTI Activism in Orissa

Awareness campaign on RTI is no more in the domain of Orissa Information Commission

Dear friends

 

It is fact that when the Govt. enacts a law, it always  keeps provision  for public awareness campaign about it. Accordingly, Central Govt. while enacting the RTI Act has  made  a clear-cut provision in the law  for    awareness campaign and  fixing responsibility  on  particular institution i.e., State or Central Govt.  Section 26 of the Act says that  the State Govt. shall organize public awareness campaign on RTI, Publish booklets and conduct training for Officials  in the state. As the Information and Public Relation Department is nodal Dept.  in Orissa for implementation of RTI, the Dept. has to organize such awareness programme  in the state. But the tragedy in Orissa is that since beginning, Orissa Information Commission itself was found busy in conducting the awareness programme, publishing booklets and organizing training for officers. The Officials of I and PR Dept. remained sitting idle without contributing anything for propagation of RTI in the state. Neither State Information Commissions nor Central Information Commission was found involved in doing such awareness campaign on RTI in their respective states or at National level.  It is exception in Orissa.  Within long span of five years, it was found Orissa Information Commission (OIC) spending around Rs. 3 crores sanctioned by Govt.  for awareness programme . Nobody knows what the output is.

 

As the OIC  remained busy  in conducting awareness programme  and inaugurating  such programme as Chief Guest  and Chief Speaker,  their primary work  of  disposal  of  complaint and 2^nd appeal cases suffered  and  pendency of  large number of cases was found  increasing  in the office of the Commission. It needs to be mentioned here that  presently  more  than 15000 cases are pending  in the office of the Commission for disposal  because of sheer negligence  and inefficiency of the Information Commissioners   for the same.

 

Being terribly disturbed by  illegal  activities of the Commission,  the Civil Society  Groups  and RTI Activists  in Orissa , since beginning opposed  the Commission's involvement  in the awareness campaign and demanded  their withdrawal  from these activities. But the Commission remained hell-bent in their illegal activities and did not care the criticism of Civil Society Groups. During   that time, a question cropped  up in the mind  of RTI Activists  that  who decides and how the decision has been taken at Govt. level to sanction fund to the Commission for awareness programme.  Accordingly, RTI Application was submitted to the Dept. of I and PR,  Dept. of Planning and Coordination,  Dept. of Finance and office of Orissa Information Commission to get the information   about it. Astonishingly,  the PIOs of all Depts.  Continued  to forward the application each other without providing any information. The PIO, office of Orissa Information Commission supplied the information about only expenditure of the fund.

 

Finding no information through RTI, RTI Activists  decided  to get the information  through  MLAs putting  the question in Orissa Assembly. Accordingly, Mr. Karendra Majhi, Hon'ble MLA raised Non-Star question  in the assembly in the month of August 2009 to the Hon'ble Minister for Information and Public Relation  about how the decision was taken at Govt. level  to sanction fund to the Commission for awareness campaign in the state going against  the provision of RTI Act.  Response of the Minister was " Collection of Information is under Process" . The Information was never supplied to the Hon'ble MLA.

 

Then, RTI Activists  under the banner of Odisha Soochana Adhikar Abhijan  staged a day-long Dharana  before Raj Bhawan, Bhubaneswar on 26.11.2010  demanding  enquiry  into misappropriation of  3.25 crore Rupees by the Commission in the name of awareness programme and appropriate legal action against  the Commission at the earliest.  A memorandum was submitted to Hon'ble Governor, Orissa  in this regard.  At the same time, Mr. Raj Kishor Singh, Political Activist and  a Senior Citizen  has filed  a  PIL Case in Orissa High Court  praying  for enquiry into misappropriation of huge fund for awareness campaign  by CBI  and demanding action  against the Commissioners in March 2011.

 

In the meantime, Mr. Tarun Kanti Mishra former Chief Secretary, Orissa  assumed the responsibility as Chief Information Commissioner in the state in the month of Novemebr'2010. When he was appraised about  the illegal activities of the Commission,  he decided not  to  be involved  in the awareness campaign  and accordingly wrote the letter  to the State Govt.  not to take fund for the same.  Now  the  fund for awareness programme  is available with Dept. of I and PR, Nodal Dept. for RTI  in the state from the financial year  2011-2012.

 

To conclude, it took  five years of protracted struggle of RTI Activists and Civil Society Organisations to force Information Commission to act  as per the letter and spirit of the RTI Act.

 

Regards

 

Pradip Pradhan

M-99378-43482

Date-6.10.2011

 

 

 

Re: [HumJanenge] Gujarat Attracted Just 5% of FDI Since 2000

I suppose that the rest of the FDI goes to the Stock Market which is an indirect way of looting this country through manipulation of stocks by the Indian (and also foreign) money stacked abroad..  All Indians with some sense of economics must protest against FDI in he stock market which is an indirect way of looting the wealth of the country. --- On Fri, 7/10/11, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> wrote: From: Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Gujarat Attracted Just 5% of FDI Since 2000 To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, 7 October, 2011, 10:13 AM Goa's mining scam and J&K's homicide scam also be commented upon with equal vigour.Selective attack smacks of political leanings,not good for dispassionate RTI activists. spm On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Ravinder Singh <corruptionfree04@gmail.com> wrote: Gujarat Attracted Just 5% of FDI Since 2000   Half Pants may find it difficult to believe in this latest report of DIPP Gujarat attracted just 5% of the FDI in India ($7.3b) out of $133b for India since April2000. This is nowhere close to $950b MOUs signed by Narendra Modi.   http://dipp.nic.in/fdi_statistics/india_FDI_April2011.pdf   Last line as reproduced here is important – per capita expenditure of Gujarat is at par with India average. >> 17.1 Average Monthly Per Capita expenditure Gujarat Rural Rs. 875 India Rs. 772, Gujarat Urban Rs.1471, India Rs.1472.   Gujarat has excellent roads and highways because it has very high percent of National Highways connecting important ports etc. But when it comes to Irrigation Canals Gujarat couldn't commission Narmada Canal system in 15 years since BJP rule or 24 years since projected was started.   Partly Gujarat is helped by fortune – Gems & Jewelry, Petroleum Refining, Cotton are big business in Gujarat and skyrocketing prices of these commodities contributed greatly to Gujarat GDP, and partly Fudging of records by Modi.   In the following growth of Electricity consumption in 2009-10 was just over 2% and 56973MU for 60 million population so per capita consumption is 934 units. But Modi claims 1491 units. Even generation of 69883MU for 60 million population is 1164 units no way even close to 1491 per capita claims of Modi.   2.59 The total consumption of electricity during the year 2009-10 was 56973 Million Units as against 55610 Million Units in the previous year i.e. 2008-09 (including Torrent Power Ltd.). The highest consumption was reported 21517 Million Units (37.77%) by industrial use, followed by 13003 Million Units (22.82%) by agricultural use, 8329 Million Units (14.62%) by domestic use, 8123 Million Units (14.26%) by other uses and 3908 Million Units (6.86%) by commercial use.   2.60 The per capita consumption of electricity during the year 2009-10 was reported to 1491 units as against 1446 units of the previous year 2008-09.   In the following Gujarat State has 37% more installed capacity than Private Sector yet both sectors generate same amount of power and CAG observed Gujarat backed down 30 Billion Units.   5.2 The total installed capacity of the State as on March-2010 was 11758 MW (comprising of 5216 MW by Gujarat State Electricity Corporation Ltd. (GSECL), 3818 MW by Private Sector and 2724 MW by Central Sector Share). >>   5.3 The total Generation of Electricity in the State including GSECL (28507 Million Units), Private sector (28042 Million Units) and Central sector share (13334 Million Units) was 69883 Million Units in the year 2009-10 as against 68962 Million Units generated in the previous year i.e. 2008-09.   SER 2011 Page 136 to 141 http://financedepartment.gujarat.gov.in/budget11_12_pdf/34_Socio_Economic_Review_English.pdf GUJARAT STATE AT A GLANCE COMPARISON WITH INDIA   Gujarat has 5% of India's population.   1.3 Effective Literacy Rate Gujarat 79% India 75%. 1.18 Census Houses Gujarat 5%. 4.1 SGDP of Gujarat 7% of India (But Modi claims 50% more 10%) 5.2 Net Sown Area 6.93% 5.4 Net Irrigated Area 6.71% 5.15 Total Foodgrains – 2.76%. Total Oil 37%, Cotton 31.49% 6.2 Fruits 9.24%. Vegetables 5.33% 9.3 Milk 7.73% Eggs 2.28%.   7. Water Supply 2.19%.   8. Employment public sector 4.42%, PVT 10.87%, Together 6.61%.   11. Net Value Added by Gujarat Industries 11.45%.   14.3/4 Deposits and Advances Scheduled Banks 4.79% and 4.1%.   17.1 Average Monthly Per Capita expenditure Gujarat Rural Rs. 875 India Rs. 772, Gujarat Urban Rs.1471, India Rs.1472.   Ravinder Singh September19, 2011