Re: [HumJanenge] seeking advice

Dont talk too much about RTI in your office ...keep doing RTI
silently.Dont target all officers but target only the kingpin...

as far as APAR is concerned , there is a chance for you to accept or
reject the comments made by reporting officer . So plz use that
option .

On 1/3/12, Devasahayam MG <mgd@airtelmail.in> wrote:
> This is a omnibus adverse ACR and RTI misuse is just one part. You should
> proceed as per your Service Rules.
>
> M.G.Devasahayam
> ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:27 AM, shyam saraswat <sss4265@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Sir
>> My ACR now called APAR is downgraded on the ground that I use RTI
>> applications for getting information by self and through others (Copy
>> attached) by the reviewing authority. Is it crime done by me and others
>> using RTI Act for getting information. Please advise to safeguard my write
>> to get information under RTI act and also my service future.
>> Thanking you.
>>
>> SSSaraswat
>>
>>
>

Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

What prayer has been made in the PIL? 

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From: Narayan Varma <narayanvarma2011@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Cc: jpshah@yahoo.co.in
Sent: Saturday, 28 January 2012 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

Our PIL is fixed for admission on 10th Feb. If one of P.& H. HC is admitted, I request Mr. J.P. shah to post  here or at least mail to me at narayanvarma20112gmail.com. Same will be useful for our PIL.
Narayan Varma

On 27 January 2012 00:55, Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Please refer:

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/hc-to-haryana-fill-up-vacant-rti-posts/904009/ 

 

-J. P. SHAH 9924106490  
http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/

  

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From: Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in>

To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Cc: "santmathur@gmail.com" <santmathur@gmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, 25 January 2012 5:21 PM

Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

You can count on me as promised in my email and I will also provide inputs. I think you are at Chennai and hence some active person from Delhi will have to be contacted.

I have many emails IDs of RTI activists all over India and properly worded mails can be sent to them for their cooperation.

 

-J. P. SHAH 9924106490  
http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/

  

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From: Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2012 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

The States are not filling in even a fraction of the sanctioned posts There's lack of transparency in selection.Criteria hasn't been formulated.Total ad-hocism has prevailed all these years.

Standard templates and other standardised systems haven't been developed(as done in top corporate world).

Techno-management principles are rarely,if at all,used in managing the show at all levels.

Most importantly,sou-motto disclosure of information,in standardised formats is simply missing, in spite of a lapse of 6 long years. 

The RTI community MUST now go the whole hog as a national campaign to redress the situation.

I'm prepared to take lead.

Lets see who all are there to join and contribute in meaningful manner !

spm

IPS DGP retd

BE MBA PhD

919841282324

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Another alternative is that RTI activists should collect fund and file  PIL in SC for appointment of additional ICs in CIC and SICs, so that cases are disposed off in say 90 days. In Nov 2010 Late Amit Jethwa [ murdered in July 2011] had filed such a PIL in Gujarat HC for pendency of 8000 appeal/complaints and in March 2011 two additional ICs were appointed at GIC, because of intervention of HC. Even 4 months back  a retired bank officer from Baroda aged 78 years and requiring dialysis weekly is contesting himself at Ahmedabad a PIL for appointment of 6 ICs at GIC.. Even if RTI activists contribute Rs.1000/- we can have corpus of Rs.100000/- assuming that at least 100 activists and beneficiaries of RTI all over India will donate Rs.1000 each. I am prepared to donate Rs.5000/- from my pocket and another Rs.5000/- I can get from many beneficiaries who have got substantial amount [few in lakhs] but for RTI. Some one in or near Delhi has to take initiative with cooperation of public spirited advocates.

Govtss do not understand any language other than that of HC or SC. Let us talk to it in that language.

Let us act rather than crying. 

-J. P. SHAH 9924106490  
http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/

  

---

From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2012 10:47 AM

Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

Backlog leading to 14 months' wait per plea CKLOG LEADING TO 14 MONTHS' WAIT PER PLEA

 

NEW DELHI: With an addition of nearly 2,500 complaints every month, the Central Information Commission (CIC), which has an astounding 26,049 pending cases is well on its way to becoming redundant. The reason: the CIC disposed off 22,414 cases last year, which means that there is a pendency of 14 months for every appeal and complaint making the information received by the applicant outdated and often useless.

Commission chief Satyananda Mishra expressed concern saying, "If the pendency continues increasing, the waiting period will also increase. We are very concerned and will have to think of radical ways to tackle the problem. One of the issues that we will discuss is `summary disposal' of cases through just speaking orders to save time."

The CIC has six information commissioners, including its chief, though it has a sanctioned strength of 10. One of the first tasks undertaken by Mishra on taking over was to write to the government asking for more commissioners keeping in view the large number of cases coming to the CIC. However, there has been little progress in ramping up the strength so far.

RTI activists are concerned and have been vocal in their disapproval of the long waiting time. One prominent RTI activist, who did not wish to be named, said, "The hearing for a case where I had sought information took place three months ago and in fact only the formal order had to be issued since I was given the impression that the decision had been taken. However, I have still not heard from the office of the information commissioner.

Prof Rajeev Kumar, formerly with IIT-Kharagpur, said that he had sought information on IIT-Madras in 2010 and only managed to get hearing in September, 2011. "I received the order after three months in December, 2011 and even then the institute gave me only part of the information. It was of no use. Despite the long delay the no penalty was charged. CIC has become infructuous," Kumar said.

Sources said that some cases as old as 2006 were still pending before the Commission with no action being taken.

--
Narayan Varma
56B Mittal Tower,
210 Nariman Point
Mumbai 400 021
RTI PCGT helpline 09322882288           
 my cell   09821096052

Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

I m ready to contribute (i will not say 'donate'.  Pl. inform the modalities, cheque, draft, to who?

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From: Narayan Varma <narayanvarma2011@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Cc: J P S <jpshah1950@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, 27 January 2012 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

Already PIL is filed in Delhi H.C. and pending for hearing, In Maharashtra, pendancy is nearly same and we, PUBLIC CONCERN for GOVERNANCE TRUST have prepared the PIL and shall come for admission on 10th FEB. This is for info of all.
Narayan Varma

On 24 January 2012 12:24, Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Another alternative is that RTI activists should collect fund and file  PIL in SC for appointment of additional ICs in CIC and SICs, so that cases are disposed off in say 90 days. In Nov 2010 Late Amit Jethwa [ murdered in July 2011] had filed such a PIL in Gujarat HC for pendency of 8000 appeal/complaints and in March 2011 two additional ICs were appointed at GIC, because of intervention of HC. Even 4 months back  a retired bank officer from Baroda aged 78 years and requiring dialysis weekly is contesting himself at Ahmedabad a PIL for appointment of 6 ICs at GIC.. Even if RTI activists contribute Rs.1000/- we can have corpus of Rs.100000/- assuming that at least 100 activists and beneficiaries of RTI all over India will donate Rs.1000 each. I am prepared to donate Rs.5000/- from my pocket and another Rs.5000/- I can get from many beneficiaries who have got substantial amount [few in lakhs] but for RTI. Some one in or near Delhi has to take initiative with cooperation of public spirited advocates.

Govtss do not understand any language other than that of HC or SC. Let us talk to it in that language.

Let us act rather than crying. 

-J. P. SHAH 9924106490  
http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/

  

---

From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2012 10:47 AM

Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

Backlog leading to 14 months' wait per plea CKLOG LEADING TO 14 MONTHS' WAIT PER PLEA

 

NEW DELHI: With an addition of nearly 2,500 complaints every month, the Central Information Commission (CIC), which has an astounding 26,049 pending cases is well on its way to becoming redundant. The reason: the CIC disposed off 22,414 cases last year, which means that there is a pendency of 14 months for every appeal and complaint making the information received by the applicant outdated and often useless.

Commission chief Satyananda Mishra expressed concern saying, "If the pendency continues increasing, the waiting period will also increase. We are very concerned and will have to think of radical ways to tackle the problem. One of the issues that we will discuss is `summary disposal' of cases through just speaking orders to save time."

The CIC has six information commissioners, including its chief, though it has a sanctioned strength of 10. One of the first tasks undertaken by Mishra on taking over was to write to the government asking for more commissioners keeping in view the large number of cases coming to the CIC. However, there has been little progress in ramping up the strength so far.

RTI activists are concerned and have been vocal in their disapproval of the long waiting time. One prominent RTI activist, who did not wish to be named, said, "The hearing for a case where I had sought information took place three months ago and in fact only the formal order had to be issued since I was given the impression that the decision had been taken. However, I have still not heard from the office of the information commissioner.

Prof Rajeev Kumar, formerly with IIT-Kharagpur, said that he had sought information on IIT-Madras in 2010 and only managed to get hearing in September, 2011. "I received the order after three months in December, 2011 and even then the institute gave me only part of the information. It was of no use. Despite the long delay the no penalty was charged. CIC has become infructuous," Kumar said.

Sources said that some cases as old as 2006 were still pending before the Commission with no action being taken.

--
Narayan Varma
56B Mittal Tower,
210 Nariman Point
Mumbai 400 021
RTI PCGT helpline 09322882288           
 my cell   09821096052

Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

Our PIL is fixed for admission on 10th Feb. If one of P.& H. HC is admitted, I request Mr. J.P. shah to post  here or at least mail to me at narayanvarma20112gmail.com. Same will be useful for our PIL.
Narayan Varma

On 27 January 2012 00:55, Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Please refer:

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/hc-to-haryana-fill-up-vacant-rti-posts/904009/ 

 

-J. P. SHAH 9924106490  
http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/

  

---

From: Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in>

To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Cc: "santmathur@gmail.com" <santmathur@gmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, 25 January 2012 5:21 PM

Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

You can count on me as promised in my email and I will also provide inputs. I think you are at Chennai and hence some active person from Delhi will have to be contacted.

I have many emails IDs of RTI activists all over India and properly worded mails can be sent to them for their cooperation.

 

-J. P. SHAH 9924106490  
http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/

  

---

From: Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2012 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

The States are not filling in even a fraction of the sanctioned posts There's lack of transparency in selection.Criteria hasn't been formulated.Total ad-hocism has prevailed all these years.

Standard templates and other standardised systems haven't been developed(as done in top corporate world).

Techno-management principles are rarely,if at all,used in managing the show at all levels.

Most importantly,sou-motto disclosure of information,in standardised formats is simply missing, in spite of a lapse of 6 long years. 

The RTI community MUST now go the whole hog as a national campaign to redress the situation.

I'm prepared to take lead.

Lets see who all are there to join and contribute in meaningful manner !

spm

IPS DGP retd

BE MBA PhD

919841282324

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Another alternative is that RTI activists should collect fund and file  PIL in SC for appointment of additional ICs in CIC and SICs, so that cases are disposed off in say 90 days. In Nov 2010 Late Amit Jethwa [ murdered in July 2011] had filed such a PIL in Gujarat HC for pendency of 8000 appeal/complaints and in March 2011 two additional ICs were appointed at GIC, because of intervention of HC. Even 4 months back  a retired bank officer from Baroda aged 78 years and requiring dialysis weekly is contesting himself at Ahmedabad a PIL for appointment of 6 ICs at GIC.. Even if RTI activists contribute Rs.1000/- we can have corpus of Rs.100000/- assuming that at least 100 activists and beneficiaries of RTI all over India will donate Rs.1000 each. I am prepared to donate Rs.5000/- from my pocket and another Rs.5000/- I can get from many beneficiaries who have got substantial amount [few in lakhs] but for RTI. Some one in or near Delhi has to take initiative with cooperation of public spirited advocates.

Govtss do not understand any language other than that of HC or SC. Let us talk to it in that language.

Let us act rather than crying. 

-J. P. SHAH 9924106490  
http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/

  

---

From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2012 10:47 AM

Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

Backlog leading to 14 months' wait per plea CKLOG LEADING TO 14 MONTHS' WAIT PER PLEA

 

NEW DELHI: With an addition of nearly 2,500 complaints every month, the Central Information Commission (CIC), which has an astounding 26,049 pending cases is well on its way to becoming redundant. The reason: the CIC disposed off 22,414 cases last year, which means that there is a pendency of 14 months for every appeal and complaint making the information received by the applicant outdated and often useless.

Commission chief Satyananda Mishra expressed concern saying, "If the pendency continues increasing, the waiting period will also increase. We are very concerned and will have to think of radical ways to tackle the problem. One of the issues that we will discuss is `summary disposal' of cases through just speaking orders to save time."

The CIC has six information commissioners, including its chief, though it has a sanctioned strength of 10. One of the first tasks undertaken by Mishra on taking over was to write to the government asking for more commissioners keeping in view the large number of cases coming to the CIC. However, there has been little progress in ramping up the strength so far.

RTI activists are concerned and have been vocal in their disapproval of the long waiting time. One prominent RTI activist, who did not wish to be named, said, "The hearing for a case where I had sought information took place three months ago and in fact only the formal order had to be issued since I was given the impression that the decision had been taken. However, I have still not heard from the office of the information commissioner.

Prof Rajeev Kumar, formerly with IIT-Kharagpur, said that he had sought information on IIT-Madras in 2010 and only managed to get hearing in September, 2011. "I received the order after three months in December, 2011 and even then the institute gave me only part of the information. It was of no use. Despite the long delay the no penalty was charged. CIC has become infructuous," Kumar said.

Sources said that some cases as old as 2006 were still pending before the Commission with no action being taken.

--
Narayan Varma
56B Mittal Tower,
210 Nariman Point
Mumbai 400 021
RTI PCGT helpline 09322882288           
 my cell   09821096052

Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

Respected Sant Mathur & JPShah ,and all others  raised this very important, urgently required issue.  respected Anna Hazare team also must take up this issue in their agenda.   

 All rti activists must unite in this holy cause.  A big national  movement is urgently needed to solve the biggest problem today. 

vijendra singh, meerut, uttar pradesh

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:47 AM, vishweshwar raste <vmraste@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear Mr Sant Mathur,
 
Count me in too,
 
best !
 
sincerely,
 
vmraste
http://www.facebook.com/people/Vishweshwar-M-Raste/1587489294
 
http://twitter.com/VMRaste
 
http://in.linkedin.com/pub/vishweshwar-raste/12/42b/a94
 

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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:21:24 -0800
From: arun_agrawal@yahoo.com

Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com; jpshah50@yahoo.co.in
CC: santmathur@gmail.com

Dear Mr Sant Mathur : Your concerns are appreciated . I liver in Noida - close to New Delhi and am willing to associate with you in the manner you consider best . The present CIC, Mr S Mishra  is also quite well known to me . Regards  Arun Agrawal  PS: My brother in law, based in Chennai, has also met you once at a Rotary function and spoke very highly about you . --- On Wed, 25/1/12, Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> wrote: From: Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com> Cc: "santmathur@gmail.com" <santmathur@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, 25 January, 2012, 17:21 You can count on me as promised in my email and I will also provide inputs. I think you are at Chennai and hence some active person from Delhi will have to be contacted. I have many emails IDs of RTI activists all over India and properly worded mails can be sent to them for their cooperation.   -J. P. SHAH 9924106490   http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/    From: Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2012 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING The States are not filling in even a fraction of the sanctioned posts There's lack of transparency in selection.Criteria hasn't been formulated.Total ad-hocism has prevailed all these years. Standard templates and other standardised systems haven't been developed(as done in top corporate world). Techno-management principles are rarely,if at all,used in managing the show at all levels. Most importantly,sou-motto disclosure of information,in standardised formats is simply missing, in spite of a lapse of 6 long years.  The RTI community MUST now go the whole hog as a national campaign to redress the situation. I'm prepared to take lead. Lets see who all are there to join and contribute in meaningful manner ! spm IPS DGP retd BE MBA PhD 919841282324 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> wrote: Another alternative is that RTI activists should collect fund and file  PIL in SC for appointment of additional ICs in CIC and SICs, so that cases are disposed off in say 90 days. In Nov 2010 Late Amit Jethwa [ murdered in July 2011] had filed such a PIL in Gujarat HC for pendency of 8000 appeal/complaints and in March 2011 two additional ICs were appointed at GIC, because of intervention of HC. Even 4 months back  a retired bank officer from Baroda aged 78 years and requiring dialysis weekly is contesting himself at Ahmedabad a PIL for appointment of 6 ICs at GIC.. Even if RTI activists contribute Rs.1000/- we can have corpus of Rs.100000/- assuming that at least 100 activists and beneficiaries of RTI all over India will donate Rs.1000 each. I am prepared to donate Rs.5000/- from my pocket and another Rs.5000/- I can get from many beneficiaries who have got substantial amount [few in lakhs] but for RTI. Some one in or near Delhi has to take initiative with cooperation of public spirited advocates. Govtss do not understand any language other than that of HC or SC. Let us talk to it in that language. Let us act rather than crying.  -J. P. SHAH 9924106490   http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/    From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING Backlog leading to 14 months' wait per plea CKLOG LEADING TO 14 MONTHS' WAIT PER PLEA   NEW DELHI: With an addition of nearly 2,500 complaints every month, the Central Information Commission (CIC), which has an astounding 26,049 pending cases is well on its way to becoming redundant. The reason: the CIC disposed off 22,414 cases last year, which means that there is a pendency of 14 months for every appeal and complaint making the information received by the applicant outdated and often useless. Commission chief Satyananda Mishra expressed concern saying, "If the pendency continues increasing, the waiting period will also increase. We are very concerned and will have to think of radical ways to tackle the problem. One of the issues that we will discuss is `summary disposal' of cases through just speaking orders to save time." The CIC has six information commissioners, including its chief, though it has a sanctioned strength of 10. One of the first tasks undertaken by Mishra on taking over was to write to the government asking for more commissioners keeping in view the large number of cases coming to the CIC. However, there has been little progress in ramping up the strength so far. RTI activists are concerned and have been vocal in their disapproval of the long waiting time. One prominent RTI activist, who did not wish to be named, said, "The hearing for a case where I had sought information took place three months ago and in fact only the formal order had to be issued since I was given the impression that the decision had been taken. However, I have still not heard from the office of the information commissioner. Prof Rajeev Kumar, formerly with IIT-Kharagpur, said that he had sought information on IIT-Madras in 2010 and only managed to get hearing in September, 2011. "I received the order after three months in December, 2011 and even then the institute gave me only part of the information. It was of no use. Despite the long delay the no penalty was charged. CIC has become infructuous," Kumar said. Sources said that some cases as old as 2006 were still pending before the Commission with no action being taken.

--
Vijendra Singh
E-19, Janakpuri,
Ajanta Colony, garh road,
Meerut-250004
UP

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This email is addressed to those members who are "free info" freaks.
RTI "activists" may kindly ignore it.

Registrations for "http://demonoid.me" BT tracker are open for next 24 hours.
Happy DL'ing

Sarbajit

RE: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

Dear Mr Sant Mathur,
 
Count me in too,
 
best !
 
sincerely,
 
vmraste
http://www.facebook.com/people/Vishweshwar-M-Raste/1587489294
 
http://twitter.com/VMRaste
 
http://in.linkedin.com/pub/vishweshwar-raste/12/42b/a94
 

---

Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:21:24 -0800
From: arun_agrawal@yahoo.com
Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com; jpshah50@yahoo.co.in
CC: santmathur@gmail.com

Dear Mr Sant Mathur : Your concerns are appreciated . I liver in Noida - close to New Delhi and am willing to associate with you in the manner you consider best . The present CIC, Mr S Mishra  is also quite well known to me . Regards  Arun Agrawal  PS: My brother in law, based in Chennai, has also met you once at a Rotary function and spoke very highly about you . --- On Wed, 25/1/12, Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> wrote: From: Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com> Cc: "santmathur@gmail.com" <santmathur@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, 25 January, 2012, 17:21 You can count on me as promised in my email and I will also provide inputs. I think you are at Chennai and hence some active person from Delhi will have to be contacted. I have many emails IDs of RTI activists all over India and properly worded mails can be sent to them for their cooperation.   -J. P. SHAH 9924106490   http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/    From: Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2012 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING The States are not filling in even a fraction of the sanctioned posts There's lack of transparency in selection.Criteria hasn't been formulated.Total ad-hocism has prevailed all these years. Standard templates and other standardised systems haven't been developed(as done in top corporate world). Techno-management principles are rarely,if at all,used in managing the show at all levels. Most importantly,sou-motto disclosure of information,in standardised formats is simply missing, in spite of a lapse of 6 long years.  The RTI community MUST now go the whole hog as a national campaign to redress the situation. I'm prepared to take lead. Lets see who all are there to join and contribute in meaningful manner ! spm IPS DGP retd BE MBA PhD 919841282324 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> wrote: Another alternative is that RTI activists should collect fund and file  PIL in SC for appointment of additional ICs in CIC and SICs, so that cases are disposed off in say 90 days. In Nov 2010 Late Amit Jethwa [ murdered in July 2011] had filed such a PIL in Gujarat HC for pendency of 8000 appeal/complaints and in March 2011 two additional ICs were appointed at GIC, because of intervention of HC. Even 4 months back  a retired bank officer from Baroda aged 78 years and requiring dialysis weekly is contesting himself at Ahmedabad a PIL for appointment of 6 ICs at GIC.. Even if RTI activists contribute Rs.1000/- we can have corpus of Rs.100000/- assuming that at least 100 activists and beneficiaries of RTI all over India will donate Rs.1000 each. I am prepared to donate Rs.5000/- from my pocket and another Rs.5000/- I can get from many beneficiaries who have got substantial amount [few in lakhs] but for RTI. Some one in or near Delhi has to take initiative with cooperation of public spirited advocates. Govtss do not understand any language other than that of HC or SC. Let us talk to it in that language. Let us act rather than crying.  -J. P. SHAH 9924106490   http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/    From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING Backlog leading to 14 months' wait per plea CKLOG LEADING TO 14 MONTHS' WAIT PER PLEA   NEW DELHI: With an addition of nearly 2,500 complaints every month, the Central Information Commission (CIC), which has an astounding 26,049 pending cases is well on its way to becoming redundant. The reason: the CIC disposed off 22,414 cases last year, which means that there is a pendency of 14 months for every appeal and complaint making the information received by the applicant outdated and often useless. Commission chief Satyananda Mishra expressed concern saying, "If the pendency continues increasing, the waiting period will also increase. We are very concerned and will have to think of radical ways to tackle the problem. One of the issues that we will discuss is `summary disposal' of cases through just speaking orders to save time." The CIC has six information commissioners, including its chief, though it has a sanctioned strength of 10. One of the first tasks undertaken by Mishra on taking over was to write to the government asking for more commissioners keeping in view the large number of cases coming to the CIC. However, there has been little progress in ramping up the strength so far. RTI activists are concerned and have been vocal in their disapproval of the long waiting time. One prominent RTI activist, who did not wish to be named, said, "The hearing for a case where I had sought information took place three months ago and in fact only the formal order had to be issued since I was given the impression that the decision had been taken. However, I have still not heard from the office of the information commissioner. Prof Rajeev Kumar, formerly with IIT-Kharagpur, said that he had sought information on IIT-Madras in 2010 and only managed to get hearing in September, 2011. "I received the order after three months in December, 2011 and even then the institute gave me only part of the information. It was of no use. Despite the long delay the no penalty was charged. CIC has become infructuous," Kumar said. Sources said that some cases as old as 2006 were still pending before the Commission with no action being taken.

Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

Already PIL is filed in Delhi H.C. and pending for hearing, In Maharashtra, pendancy is nearly same and we, PUBLIC CONCERN for GOVERNANCE TRUST have prepared the PIL and shall come for admission on 10th FEB. This is for info of all.
Narayan Varma

On 24 January 2012 12:24, Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Another alternative is that RTI activists should collect fund and file  PIL in SC for appointment of additional ICs in CIC and SICs, so that cases are disposed off in say 90 days. In Nov 2010 Late Amit Jethwa [ murdered in July 2011] had filed such a PIL in Gujarat HC for pendency of 8000 appeal/complaints and in March 2011 two additional ICs were appointed at GIC, because of intervention of HC. Even 4 months back  a retired bank officer from Baroda aged 78 years and requiring dialysis weekly is contesting himself at Ahmedabad a PIL for appointment of 6 ICs at GIC.. Even if RTI activists contribute Rs.1000/- we can have corpus of Rs.100000/- assuming that at least 100 activists and beneficiaries of RTI all over India will donate Rs.1000 each. I am prepared to donate Rs.5000/- from my pocket and another Rs.5000/- I can get from many beneficiaries who have got substantial amount [few in lakhs] but for RTI. Some one in or near Delhi has to take initiative with cooperation of public spirited advocates.

Govtss do not understand any language other than that of HC or SC. Let us talk to it in that language.

Let us act rather than crying. 

-J. P. SHAH 9924106490  
http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/

  

---

From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2012 10:47 AM

Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

Backlog leading to 14 months' wait per plea CKLOG LEADING TO 14 MONTHS' WAIT PER PLEA

 

NEW DELHI: With an addition of nearly 2,500 complaints every month, the Central Information Commission (CIC), which has an astounding 26,049 pending cases is well on its way to becoming redundant. The reason: the CIC disposed off 22,414 cases last year, which means that there is a pendency of 14 months for every appeal and complaint making the information received by the applicant outdated and often useless.

Commission chief Satyananda Mishra expressed concern saying, "If the pendency continues increasing, the waiting period will also increase. We are very concerned and will have to think of radical ways to tackle the problem. One of the issues that we will discuss is `summary disposal' of cases through just speaking orders to save time."

The CIC has six information commissioners, including its chief, though it has a sanctioned strength of 10. One of the first tasks undertaken by Mishra on taking over was to write to the government asking for more commissioners keeping in view the large number of cases coming to the CIC. However, there has been little progress in ramping up the strength so far.

RTI activists are concerned and have been vocal in their disapproval of the long waiting time. One prominent RTI activist, who did not wish to be named, said, "The hearing for a case where I had sought information took place three months ago and in fact only the formal order had to be issued since I was given the impression that the decision had been taken. However, I have still not heard from the office of the information commissioner.

Prof Rajeev Kumar, formerly with IIT-Kharagpur, said that he had sought information on IIT-Madras in 2010 and only managed to get hearing in September, 2011. "I received the order after three months in December, 2011 and even then the institute gave me only part of the information. It was of no use. Despite the long delay the no penalty was charged. CIC has become infructuous," Kumar said.

Sources said that some cases as old as 2006 were still pending before the Commission with no action being taken.

--
Narayan Varma
56B Mittal Tower,
210 Nariman Point
Mumbai 400 021
RTI PCGT helpline 09322882288           
 my cell   09821096052

Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

Please refer:

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/hc-to-haryana-fill-up-vacant-rti-posts/904009/ 

 

-J. P. SHAH 9924106490  
http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/

  

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From: Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in>
To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Cc: "santmathur@gmail.com" <santmathur@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 25 January 2012 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

You can count on me as promised in my email and I will also provide inputs. I think you are at Chennai and hence some active person from Delhi will have to be contacted.

I have many emails IDs of RTI activists all over India and properly worded mails can be sent to them for their cooperation.

 

-J. P. SHAH 9924106490  
http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/

  

---

From: Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2012 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

The States are not filling in even a fraction of the sanctioned posts There's lack of transparency in selection.Criteria hasn't been formulated.Total ad-hocism has prevailed all these years.

Standard templates and other standardised systems haven't been developed(as done in top corporate world).

Techno-management principles are rarely,if at all,used in managing the show at all levels.

Most importantly,sou-motto disclosure of information,in standardised formats is simply missing, in spite of a lapse of 6 long years. 

The RTI community MUST now go the whole hog as a national campaign to redress the situation.

I'm prepared to take lead.

Lets see who all are there to join and contribute in meaningful manner !

spm

IPS DGP retd

BE MBA PhD

919841282324

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Another alternative is that RTI activists should collect fund and file  PIL in SC for appointment of additional ICs in CIC and SICs, so that cases are disposed off in say 90 days. In Nov 2010 Late Amit Jethwa [ murdered in July 2011] had filed such a PIL in Gujarat HC for pendency of 8000 appeal/complaints and in March 2011 two additional ICs were appointed at GIC, because of intervention of HC. Even 4 months back  a retired bank officer from Baroda aged 78 years and requiring dialysis weekly is contesting himself at Ahmedabad a PIL for appointment of 6 ICs at GIC.. Even if RTI activists contribute Rs.1000/- we can have corpus of Rs.100000/- assuming that at least 100 activists and beneficiaries of RTI all over India will donate Rs.1000 each. I am prepared to donate Rs.5000/- from my pocket and another Rs.5000/- I can get from many beneficiaries who have got substantial amount [few in lakhs] but for RTI. Some one in or near Delhi has to take initiative with cooperation of public spirited advocates.

Govtss do not understand any language other than that of HC or SC. Let us talk to it in that language.

Let us act rather than crying. 

-J. P. SHAH 9924106490  
http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/

  

---

From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2012 10:47 AM

Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

Backlog leading to 14 months' wait per plea CKLOG LEADING TO 14 MONTHS' WAIT PER PLEA

 

NEW DELHI: With an addition of nearly 2,500 complaints every month, the Central Information Commission (CIC), which has an astounding 26,049 pending cases is well on its way to becoming redundant. The reason: the CIC disposed off 22,414 cases last year, which means that there is a pendency of 14 months for every appeal and complaint making the information received by the applicant outdated and often useless.

Commission chief Satyananda Mishra expressed concern saying, "If the pendency continues increasing, the waiting period will also increase. We are very concerned and will have to think of radical ways to tackle the problem. One of the issues that we will discuss is `summary disposal' of cases through just speaking orders to save time."

The CIC has six information commissioners, including its chief, though it has a sanctioned strength of 10. One of the first tasks undertaken by Mishra on taking over was to write to the government asking for more commissioners keeping in view the large number of cases coming to the CIC. However, there has been little progress in ramping up the strength so far.

RTI activists are concerned and have been vocal in their disapproval of the long waiting time. One prominent RTI activist, who did not wish to be named, said, "The hearing for a case where I had sought information took place three months ago and in fact only the formal order had to be issued since I was given the impression that the decision had been taken. However, I have still not heard from the office of the information commissioner.

Prof Rajeev Kumar, formerly with IIT-Kharagpur, said that he had sought information on IIT-Madras in 2010 and only managed to get hearing in September, 2011. "I received the order after three months in December, 2011 and even then the institute gave me only part of the information. It was of no use. Despite the long delay the no penalty was charged. CIC has become infructuous," Kumar said.

Sources said that some cases as old as 2006 were still pending before the Commission with no action being taken.

Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

Respected All, Greetings! We are willing to file any PIL which involves national interest. Regards, Rajeev Yadav, National President, (B.Sc., M.B.A., L.L.B., P.G.D. Human Rights), Adhikaar the rights path, +919811242471. www.adhikaar.in . --- On Thu, 26/1/12, arun agrawal <arun_agrawal@yahoo.com> wrote: From: arun agrawal <arun_agrawal@yahoo.com> Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com, jpshah50@yahoo.co.in Cc: "santmathur@gmail.com" <santmathur@gmail.com> Date: Thursday, 26 January, 2012, 10:51 AM Dear Mr Sant Mathur : Your concerns are appreciated . I liver in Noida - close to New Delhi and am willing to associate with you in the manner you consider best . The present CIC, Mr S Mishra  is also quite well known to me . Regards  Arun Agrawal  PS: My brother in law, based in Chennai, has also met you once at a Rotary function and spoke very highly about you . --- On Wed, 25/1/12, Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> wrote: From: Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com> Cc: "santmathur@gmail.com" <santmathur@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, 25 January, 2012, 17:21 You can count on me as promised in my email and I will also provide inputs. I think you are at Chennai and hence some active person from Delhi will have to be contacted. I have many emails IDs of RTI activists all over India and properly worded mails can be sent to them for their cooperation.   -J. P. SHAH 9924106490   http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/    From: Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2012 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING The States are not filling in even a fraction of the sanctioned posts There's lack of transparency in selection.Criteria hasn't been formulated.Total ad-hocism has prevailed all these years. Standard templates and other standardised systems haven't been developed(as done in top corporate world). Techno-management principles are rarely,if at all,used in managing the show at all levels. Most importantly,sou-motto disclosure of information,in standardised formats is simply missing, in spite of a lapse of 6 long years.  The RTI community MUST now go the whole hog as a national campaign to redress the situation. I'm prepared to take lead. Lets see who all are there to join and contribute in meaningful manner ! spm IPS DGP retd BE MBA PhD 919841282324 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> wrote: Another alternative is that RTI activists should collect fund and file  PIL in SC for appointment of additional ICs in CIC and SICs, so that cases are disposed off in say 90 days. In Nov 2010 Late Amit Jethwa [ murdered in July 2011] had filed such a PIL in Gujarat HC for pendency of 8000 appeal/complaints and in March 2011 two additional ICs were appointed at GIC, because of intervention of HC. Even 4 months back  a retired bank officer from Baroda aged 78 years and requiring dialysis weekly is contesting himself at Ahmedabad a PIL for appointment of 6 ICs at GIC.. Even if RTI activists contribute Rs.1000/- we can have corpus of Rs.100000/- assuming that at least 100 activists and beneficiaries of RTI all over India will donate Rs.1000 each. I am prepared to donate Rs.5000/- from my pocket and another Rs.5000/- I can get from many beneficiaries who have got substantial amount [few in lakhs] but for RTI. Some one in or near Delhi has to take initiative with cooperation of public spirited advocates. Govtss do not understand any language other than that of HC or SC. Let us talk to it in that language. Let us act rather than crying.  -J. P. SHAH 9924106490   http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/    From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING Backlog leading to 14 months' wait per plea CKLOG LEADING TO 14 MONTHS' WAIT PER PLEA   NEW DELHI: With an addition of nearly 2,500 complaints every month, the Central Information Commission (CIC), which has an astounding 26,049 pending cases is well on its way to becoming redundant. The reason: the CIC disposed off 22,414 cases last year, which means that there is a pendency of 14 months for every appeal and complaint making the information received by the applicant outdated and often useless. Commission chief Satyananda Mishra expressed concern saying, "If the pendency continues increasing, the waiting period will also increase. We are very concerned and will have to think of radical ways to tackle the problem. One of the issues that we will discuss is `summary disposal' of cases through just speaking orders to save time." The CIC has six information commissioners, including its chief, though it has a sanctioned strength of 10. One of the first tasks undertaken by Mishra on taking over was to write to the government asking for more commissioners keeping in view the large number of cases coming to the CIC. However, there has been little progress in ramping up the strength so far. RTI activists are concerned and have been vocal in their disapproval of the long waiting time. One prominent RTI activist, who did not wish to be named, said, "The hearing for a case where I had sought information took place three months ago and in fact only the formal order had to be issued since I was given the impression that the decision had been taken. However, I have still not heard from the office of the information commissioner. Prof Rajeev Kumar, formerly with IIT-Kharagpur, said that he had sought information on IIT-Madras in 2010 and only managed to get hearing in September, 2011. "I received the order after three months in December, 2011 and even then the institute gave me only part of the information. It was of no use. Despite the long delay the no penalty was charged. CIC has become infructuous," Kumar said. Sources said that some cases as old as 2006 were still pending before the Commission with no action being taken.

Re: [HumJanenge] Internal and External Oil Mafia in Oil Companies in India

 

      Dear Sir,

      The Public (Sector) Company and Government belong to the same Organization. So the Company can do nothing without clearance from the Goverbment. Government cannot be free from the crimes that the Company may be responslible for. Again the result comes at the Government's head.
      With regards to all,

      ------Mukund Apte

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:45 PM, pankaj khanna <pankajharbans@rediffmail.com> wrote:

Dear Moderator,

Kindly let our Group know more about Corruption in the Oil Companies, please.Regards.

Pankaj Khanna
===================

Dear Friends,


The purpose behind this communication is only to let the true owners of the Govt. Oil Companies, you the people of India, know one of the reasons why you are required to pay more than Rs 70=00 to purchase a litre of Petrol. Every year these companies loose more than 0.5% of Products as stock loss worth more than Rs. 6000 Crores. Apart from that, there are Corrupt practices in engineering jobs, Purchases, Promotions, transfers, adulterations, short delivery, misuse of Kerosene in the knowledge of all... The list and scam goes on and on. Oil Scam is much more deep rooted than 2-G Scam; if you consider the corruption in these companies in the past three decades.For more details please see the Blog: http://pankaj-khanna.blogspot.com/

Pankaj Khanna

Mobile No. 9424810575

Blog :http://pankaj-khanna.blogspot.com/

Follow Rediff Deal ho jaye! to get exciting offers in your city everyday.

--
      With regards to all,
      ------Mukund Apte

[HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

Dear Mr Sant Mathur : Your concerns are appreciated . I liver in Noida - close to New Delhi and am willing to associate with you in the manner you consider best . The present CIC, Mr S Mishra  is also quite well known to me . Regards  Arun Agrawal  PS: My brother in law, based in Chennai, has also met you once at a Rotary function and spoke very highly about you . --- On Wed, 25/1/12, Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> wrote: From: Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com> Cc: "santmathur@gmail.com" <santmathur@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, 25 January, 2012, 17:21 You can count on me as promised in my email and I will also provide inputs. I think you are at Chennai and hence some active person from Delhi will have to be contacted. I have many emails IDs of RTI activists all over India and properly worded mails can be sent to them for their cooperation.   -J. P. SHAH 9924106490   http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/    From: Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2012 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING The States are not filling in even a fraction of the sanctioned posts There's lack of transparency in selection.Criteria hasn't been formulated.Total ad-hocism has prevailed all these years. Standard templates and other standardised systems haven't been developed(as done in top corporate world). Techno-management principles are rarely,if at all,used in managing the show at all levels. Most importantly,sou-motto disclosure of information,in standardised formats is simply missing, in spite of a lapse of 6 long years.  The RTI community MUST now go the whole hog as a national campaign to redress the situation. I'm prepared to take lead. Lets see who all are there to join and contribute in meaningful manner ! spm IPS DGP retd BE MBA PhD 919841282324 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> wrote: Another alternative is that RTI activists should collect fund and file  PIL in SC for appointment of additional ICs in CIC and SICs, so that cases are disposed off in say 90 days. In Nov 2010 Late Amit Jethwa [ murdered in July 2011] had filed such a PIL in Gujarat HC for pendency of 8000 appeal/complaints and in March 2011 two additional ICs were appointed at GIC, because of intervention of HC. Even 4 months back  a retired bank officer from Baroda aged 78 years and requiring dialysis weekly is contesting himself at Ahmedabad a PIL for appointment of 6 ICs at GIC.. Even if RTI activists contribute Rs.1000/- we can have corpus of Rs.100000/- assuming that at least 100 activists and beneficiaries of RTI all over India will donate Rs.1000 each. I am prepared to donate Rs.5000/- from my pocket and another Rs.5000/- I can get from many beneficiaries who have got substantial amount [few in lakhs] but for RTI. Some one in or near Delhi has to take initiative with cooperation of public spirited advocates. Govtss do not understand any language other than that of HC or SC. Let us talk to it in that language. Let us act rather than crying.  -J. P. SHAH 9924106490   http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/    From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING Backlog leading to 14 months' wait per plea CKLOG LEADING TO 14 MONTHS' WAIT PER PLEA   NEW DELHI: With an addition of nearly 2,500 complaints every month, the Central Information Commission (CIC), which has an astounding 26,049 pending cases is well on its way to becoming redundant. The reason: the CIC disposed off 22,414 cases last year, which means that there is a pendency of 14 months for every appeal and complaint making the information received by the applicant outdated and often useless. Commission chief Satyananda Mishra expressed concern saying, "If the pendency continues increasing, the waiting period will also increase. We are very concerned and will have to think of radical ways to tackle the problem. One of the issues that we will discuss is `summary disposal' of cases through just speaking orders to save time." The CIC has six information commissioners, including its chief, though it has a sanctioned strength of 10. One of the first tasks undertaken by Mishra on taking over was to write to the government asking for more commissioners keeping in view the large number of cases coming to the CIC. However, there has been little progress in ramping up the strength so far. RTI activists are concerned and have been vocal in their disapproval of the long waiting time. One prominent RTI activist, who did not wish to be named, said, "The hearing for a case where I had sought information took place three months ago and in fact only the formal order had to be issued since I was given the impression that the decision had been taken. However, I have still not heard from the office of the information commissioner. Prof Rajeev Kumar, formerly with IIT-Kharagpur, said that he had sought information on IIT-Madras in 2010 and only managed to get hearing in September, 2011. "I received the order after three months in December, 2011 and even then the institute gave me only part of the information. It was of no use. Despite the long delay the no penalty was charged. CIC has become infructuous," Kumar said. Sources said that some cases as old as 2006 were still pending before the Commission with no action being taken.

[HumJanenge] Internal and External Oil Mafia in Oil Companies in India

Dear Moderator,

Kindly let our Group know more about Corruption in the Oil Companies, please.Regards.

Pankaj Khanna
===================

Dear Friends,


The purpose behind this communication is only to let the true owners of the Govt. Oil Companies, you the people of India, know one of the reasons why you are required to pay more than Rs 70=00 to purchase a litre of Petrol. Every year these companies loose more than 0.5% of Products as stock loss worth more than Rs. 6000 Crores. Apart from that, there are Corrupt practices in engineering jobs, Purchases, Promotions, transfers, adulterations, short delivery, misuse of Kerosene in the knowledge of all... The list and scam goes on and on. Oil Scam is much more deep rooted than 2-G Scam; if you consider the corruption in these companies in the past three decades.For more details please see the Blog: http://pankaj-khanna.blogspot.com/

Pankaj Khanna

Mobile No. 9424810575

Blog :http://pankaj-khanna.blogspot.com/

Follow Rediff Deal ho jaye! to get exciting offers in your city everyday.

Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

You can count on me as promised in my email and I will also provide inputs. I think you are at Chennai and hence some active person from Delhi will have to be contacted.

I have many emails IDs of RTI activists all over India and properly worded mails can be sent to them for their cooperation.

 

-J. P. SHAH 9924106490  
http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/

  

---

From: Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2012 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

The States are not filling in even a fraction of the sanctioned posts There's lack of transparency in selection.Criteria hasn't been formulated.Total ad-hocism has prevailed all these years.

Standard templates and other standardised systems haven't been developed(as done in top corporate world).

Techno-management principles are rarely,if at all,used in managing the show at all levels.

Most importantly,sou-motto disclosure of information,in standardised formats is simply missing, in spite of a lapse of 6 long years. 

The RTI community MUST now go the whole hog as a national campaign to redress the situation.

I'm prepared to take lead.

Lets see who all are there to join and contribute in meaningful manner !

spm

IPS DGP retd

BE MBA PhD

919841282324

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Jitendra P. Shah <jpshah50@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Another alternative is that RTI activists should collect fund and file  PIL in SC for appointment of additional ICs in CIC and SICs, so that cases are disposed off in say 90 days. In Nov 2010 Late Amit Jethwa [ murdered in July 2011] had filed such a PIL in Gujarat HC for pendency of 8000 appeal/complaints and in March 2011 two additional ICs were appointed at GIC, because of intervention of HC. Even 4 months back  a retired bank officer from Baroda aged 78 years and requiring dialysis weekly is contesting himself at Ahmedabad a PIL for appointment of 6 ICs at GIC.. Even if RTI activists contribute Rs.1000/- we can have corpus of Rs.100000/- assuming that at least 100 activists and beneficiaries of RTI all over India will donate Rs.1000 each. I am prepared to donate Rs.5000/- from my pocket and another Rs.5000/- I can get from many beneficiaries who have got substantial amount [few in lakhs] but for RTI. Some one in or near Delhi has to take initiative with cooperation of public spirited advocates.

Govtss do not understand any language other than that of HC or SC. Let us talk to it in that language.

Let us act rather than crying. 

-J. P. SHAH 9924106490  
http://www.jps50.blogspot.com/

  

---

From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 22 January 2012 10:47 AM

Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

CIC LOSING RELEVANCE AS 26K CASES PENDING

Backlog leading to 14 months' wait per plea CKLOG LEADING TO 14 MONTHS' WAIT PER PLEA

 

NEW DELHI: With an addition of nearly 2,500 complaints every month, the Central Information Commission (CIC), which has an astounding 26,049 pending cases is well on its way to becoming redundant. The reason: the CIC disposed off 22,414 cases last year, which means that there is a pendency of 14 months for every appeal and complaint making the information received by the applicant outdated and often useless.

Commission chief Satyananda Mishra expressed concern saying, "If the pendency continues increasing, the waiting period will also increase. We are very concerned and will have to think of radical ways to tackle the problem. One of the issues that we will discuss is `summary disposal' of cases through just speaking orders to save time."

The CIC has six information commissioners, including its chief, though it has a sanctioned strength of 10. One of the first tasks undertaken by Mishra on taking over was to write to the government asking for more commissioners keeping in view the large number of cases coming to the CIC. However, there has been little progress in ramping up the strength so far.

RTI activists are concerned and have been vocal in their disapproval of the long waiting time. One prominent RTI activist, who did not wish to be named, said, "The hearing for a case where I had sought information took place three months ago and in fact only the formal order had to be issued since I was given the impression that the decision had been taken. However, I have still not heard from the office of the information commissioner.

Prof Rajeev Kumar, formerly with IIT-Kharagpur, said that he had sought information on IIT-Madras in 2010 and only managed to get hearing in September, 2011. "I received the order after three months in December, 2011 and even then the institute gave me only part of the information. It was of no use. Despite the long delay the no penalty was charged. CIC has become infructuous," Kumar said.

Sources said that some cases as old as 2006 were still pending before the Commission with no action being taken.