Hum Janenge: 4/29/12

Saturday, May 5, 2012

Re: [HumJanenge] How can we Prevent the On-going Blunders in India - Is RTI Helpful ?

Dear Sarabjit ji,

I also volunteer for the cause.

Rgds

Major Ramesh Agnani(Retd)
Consultant(Telecom and Networking)
Telnet Consultants Pvt. Ltd.,
Tele : 011 - 25770693, Mob : 98111 18546

From: Balbir Kataria <balbirkataria@yahoo.com>
To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012, 15:31
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] How can we Prevent the On-going Blunders in India - Is RTI Helpful ?

Dear Sarbajit ji,

Good thought. I am a volunteer.

Regards

Maj General Balbir K Kataria

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 4 May 2012 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] How can we Prevent the On-going Blunders in India - Is RTI Helpful ?

Dear Mahesh

Messages from this RTI related forum go out to about 10,000 persons.

The "10 million" reference is about another of my social work
associations which is
not connected with RTI, (but with A) nation building as per Indian
tradition B) Elimination of corrupt persons).

As we can all sense, l and I'm sure nobody will deny it, the Indian
people are sheep who can be easily brainwashed, controlled by foreign
parasites, and easily led astray into wasting their time in blind
alleys and useless activities. (ie. "Lotus Eaters"). It is only our
Defence forces which have held the nation together (until now). After
retirement most of glorious IESMs revert to mean and indulge in Lotus
Eating activities.

If even 50 of our IESM members volunteer to send just 2 emails
(drafted by me) to babus (selected by me) ONCE a MONTH, we will
witness change taking place before our eyes and in our lifetimes.

Screw social media and public battles - those are for Lotus Eating
NGOs. Patriots execute covert actions against precise targets based
on proper intelligence.

For instance, I want 50 volunteers to send an email (which I have
already sent in my own name) to the Babus concerning how 8,000
Ministry of Defence computers were hacked by the Chinese and the babus
are still fighting over who will investigate the matter. No
investigation has taken place and 1000's of Top Secret files of Army
and Assam Rifles were sucked out of MoD computers and these computers
are still connected to the Internet leaking away to our Enemy No.1.

After this I want to send an email about a recent CONFIDENTAIL Cabinet
Secretariat project which re-employs retired babus at per-diems of Rs.
5,000 per day with stay in 4 star hotels in Delhi and regular to=fro
air tickets etc. The names of the people selected are an eye opener.

Sarbajit

On 5/3/12, Mahesh Khera <mkkhera@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> US, Canada, China, Korea, 26 EU nations and 10 other developed nations are
> on a high speed irrevocable growth path of encouraging and implementing
> Telecom, Media and Technology (TMT) infrastructure. This infrastructure has
> been growing their economies as also helping them to lead mostly a
> corruption free life. All this is due to their educated, mature, relatively
> honest and committed political leadership kept in solid monitoring and
> control mode by their people, quick and hawk like media and swift
> judiciary. >> India has already nearly destroyed one of its most essential
> infrastructures, telecom and it now has been brought in line with our every
> other dismal infrastructure like roads, power, education, health,
> transportation, ports, airports and so on. More importantly, a ubiquitous
> TMT infrastructure is a pre-requisite to curb corruption. Lokpals/Lokayuktas
> and honest judiciary can bring to little extent but when combined with e
> governance, a very sharp decline in corruption is achieved in quickest time.
> We have already destroyed both the growth prospects of our GDP as also the
> dreams of controlling corruption.
>
> In the absence of any other means, can RTI be used to gather necessary
> inputs and then combined with media quickly disseminate these to the people
> like a viral letting them know how our political leadership through their
> unintelligent, immature and dishonest commitment to their oaths which they
> all took when they became MPs/MLAs, ministers and so on has been taking the
> country behind while the rest of the world is marching ahead with
> improvements after improvements. Just to cite only one example, South Korea
> a war ravaged nation got its independence much later than India, its one
> company Samsung alone generates more than $ 160 billion of annual revenue
> and just recently beaten Apple to second place in its own backyards in US.
> Look at the policies followed by them and what India has done. We have no
> place to hide our selves from this shame.
>
> Through this single largest forum in the country, more than 10 million as
> per Mr Sarbajit, lets take up what ever we can to raise this awareness like
> a viral among the people of India.
>
> Jai Hind
>
> With warm regards,
>
> Col Mahesh Khera

Re: [HumJanenge] Public Grievance inre Information Commissioner Mr. Rajiv Mathur (002)

Dear Mr Sarbajit,

You know very well that all Intelligence officers are men (and women) of few words....

Since Mr Rajiv Mathur was also one....he continues to believe in few words and hence no reasoning.

RTIwanted

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: s.mishra <s.mishra@nic.in>; humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2012 10:44 PM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Public Grievance inre Information Commissioner Mr. Rajiv Mathur (002)

To:
Shri Satyananda Mishra
Chief Information Commissioner of India
(and also deemed Chief Vigilance Officer)
Central Information Commission
New Delhi

BY EMAIL

05-May-2012

Respected Sir

Kindly inquire into and take the necessary action u/s 12 of RTI Act,
or otherwise, on my public grievance as is stated below. I would
appreciate an acknowledgment, within 5 days, of the receipt of my
grievance along with the tentative time frame to resolve it, as is
mandated by the DARPG/GoI scheme of public grievance redressal which I
am additionally applying under.

1) That Shri Rajiv Mathur in decision d/d 3.5.2012 uploaded at URL
http://www.rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_DS_A_2011_001055_M_81995.pdf
has failed to pass a reasoned order on the facts placed before him and
which were to be adjudicated upon by him.

2) It appears herefrom that Shri Mathur may not be fully cognizant of
the provisions of the RTI Act which were to be invoked and has instead
proceeded to base his decision using a "seat of the pants" approach
and thereby transgressing well beyond the powers and duties of the
Commission as specified in the RTI Act.

Accordingly, I have reason to suspect that corruption is involved,
which requires inquiry. Alternatively, it may simply be a case of
ignorance which can be easily corrected by proper training to bring
his decision on par with those issued by, say, yourself.

Hence this grievance petition to protect the reputation and esteem of
the Hon'ble Commission and to safeguard the interest of the public at
large which includes myself as an RTI user...

yours sincerely

Sarbajit Roy
B-59 Defence Colony
New Delhi 110024

Tel : 011-24334262

Re: [HumJanenge] How can we Prevent the On-going Blunders in India - Is RTI Helpful ?

i am ready to volunteer

On 5/4/12, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mahesh
>
> Messages from this RTI related forum go out to about 10,000 persons.
>
> The "10 million" reference is about another of my social work
> associations which is
> not connected with RTI, (but with A) nation building as per Indian
> tradition B) Elimination of corrupt persons).
>
> As we can all sense, l and I'm sure nobody will deny it, the Indian
> people are sheep who can be easily brainwashed, controlled by foreign
> parasites, and easily led astray into wasting their time in blind
> alleys and useless activities. (ie. "Lotus Eaters"). It is only our
> Defence forces which have held the nation together (until now). After
> retirement most of glorious IESMs revert to mean and indulge in Lotus
> Eating activities.
>
> If even 50 of our IESM members volunteer to send just 2 emails
> (drafted by me) to babus (selected by me) ONCE a MONTH, we will
> witness change taking place before our eyes and in our lifetimes.
>
> Screw social media and public battles - those are for Lotus Eating
> NGOs. Patriots execute covert actions against precise targets based
> on proper intelligence.
>
> For instance, I want 50 volunteers to send an email (which I have
> already sent in my own name) to the Babus concerning how 8,000
> Ministry of Defence computers were hacked by the Chinese and the babus
> are still fighting over who will investigate the matter. No
> investigation has taken place and 1000's of Top Secret files of Army
> and Assam Rifles were sucked out of MoD computers and these computers
> are still connected to the Internet leaking away to our Enemy No.1.
>
> After this I want to send an email about a recent CONFIDENTAIL Cabinet
> Secretariat project which re-employs retired babus at per-diems of Rs.
> 5,000 per day with stay in 4 star hotels in Delhi and regular to=fro
> air tickets etc. The names of the people selected are an eye opener.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On 5/3/12, Mahesh Khera <mkkhera@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>> US, Canada, China, Korea, 26 EU nations and 10 other developed nations are
>> on a high speed irrevocable growth path of encouraging and implementing
>> Telecom, Media and Technology (TMT) infrastructure. This infrastructure
>> has
>> been growing their economies as also helping them to lead mostly a
>> corruption free life. All this is due to their educated, mature,
>> relatively
>> honest and committed political leadership kept in solid monitoring and
>> control mode by their people, quick and hawk like media and swift
>> judiciary. >> India has already nearly destroyed one of its most essential
>> infrastructures, telecom and it now has been brought in line with our
>> every
>> other dismal infrastructure like roads, power, education, health,
>> transportation, ports, airports and so on. More importantly, a ubiquitous
>> TMT infrastructure is a pre-requisite to curb corruption.
>> Lokpals/Lokayuktas
>> and honest judiciary can bring to little extent but when combined with e
>> governance, a very sharp decline in corruption is achieved in quickest
>> time.
>> We have already destroyed both the growth prospects of our GDP as also the
>> dreams of controlling corruption.
>>
>> In the absence of any other means, can RTI be used to gather necessary
>> inputs and then combined with media quickly disseminate these to the
>> people
>> like a viral letting them know how our political leadership through their
>> unintelligent, immature and dishonest commitment to their oaths which they
>> all took when they became MPs/MLAs, ministers and so on has been taking
>> the
>> country behind while the rest of the world is marching ahead with
>> improvements after improvements. Just to cite only one example, South
>> Korea
>> a war ravaged nation got its independence much later than India, its one
>> company Samsung alone generates more than $ 160 billion of annual revenue
>> and just recently beaten Apple to second place in its own backyards in US.
>> Look at the policies followed by them and what India has done. We have no
>> place to hide our selves from this shame.
>>
>> Through this single largest forum in the country, more than 10 million as
>> per Mr Sarbajit, lets take up what ever we can to raise this awareness
>> like
>> a viral among the people of India.
>>
>> Jai Hind
>>
>> With warm regards,
>>
>> Col Mahesh Khera
>

--
Dr. Sandeep Kumar Gupta
1778, Sector 14, Hisar-125001, INDIA
Phone: 91-99929-31181

[HumJanenge] Public Grievance inre Information Commissioner Mr. Rajiv Mathur (002)

[HumJanenge] Public Grievance inre Information Commissioner Mr. Rajiv Mathur (001)

To:
Shri Satyananda Mishra
Chief Information Commissioner of India
(and also deemed Chief Vigilance Officer)
Central Information Commission
New Delhi

BY EMAIL

05-May-2012

Respected Sir

Kindly inquire into and take the necessary action u/s 12 of RTI Act,
or otherwise, on my public grievance as is stated below. I would
appreciate an acknowledgment, within 5 days, of the receipt of my
grievance along with the tentative time frame to resolve it, as is
mandated by the DARPG/GoI scheme of public grievance redressal which I
am additionally applying under.

1) That Shri Rajiv Mathur in decision d/d 3.5.2012 uploaded at URL
http://www.rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_DS_A_2011_001722_M_82046.pdf
has condoned the delay of over 30 days by the CPIO in replying to the
appellant and let the CPIO off without imposing the statutory penalty
on the trivial grounds ("pressure of work coupled with apology")
advanced by the private consultant who accompanied the CPIO. This
action is also contrary to several High Court decisions mandating
imposition of penalty in which Information Commissions were parties.

Accordingly, I have reason to suspect that corruption is involved,
which requires inquiry.

Hence this grievance petition to protect the reputation and esteem of
the Hon'ble Commission and to safeguard the interest of the public at
large which includes myself as an RTI user...

yours sincerely

Sarbajit Roy
B-59 Defence Colony
New Delhi 110024

Tel : 011-24334262

Re: [HumJanenge] How can we Prevent the On-going Blunders in India - Is RTI Helpful ?

Dear Sarbajit ji,

Good thought. I am a volunteer.

Regards

Maj General Balbir K Kataria

Re: [HumJanenge] How can we Prevent the On-going Blunders in India - Is RTI Helpful ?

A few days back I happened to visit Nehru Palace to buy a computer/lap top n finally struck a deal with a dealer

to buy a lap top of Dell n asked him to load the required software, at the end of receiving the item when I saw the make etc at the bottom of the lap top I was surprised to see it as made in China.I objected to it n asked the dealer that I want an original/ genuine peace n not a china made, to my surprise he told me that it is a genuine peace n all lap tops of dell or even the other foreign brands r coming from china.this made me realise how china has gone so far ahead of us in economy n even foreign affairs.today all electronics, electric n computer related items in this country r either china made or Singapore or Korea etc so it is but natural that economy of these nations have moved too fast.The main point here is its side effects can be very dangerous while china being our no one enemy our all secretes can be passed on to china w/o much of efforts.Now another question is why our govt has allowed it is not understood are they not aware of its side effect in long run,in addition to damage to our economy what all else it can do? even most of our telecoms related equipments r china made today. I believe that china assemble all these items in every home of china,in fact this could have been the case in India since India was much ahead of China in home industry at the time of independence however destroyed slowly with govt's efforts to promote more large scale industries.

Friday, May 4, 2012

Re: [HumJanenge] Need Help in framing the right questions

Tks for your Mail . the reason I posed a Few pertinant Queries is that By these Setreotyped Courses etc etc Certain Govt Depts are May be upto "certain Conditioning " of axctivists . this Conditioning may in a Later date Create certain Blocks on thier Independence in Thinking of what is Transperancy . Already An Attempt was Made by Defining "privacy" by a Few Info Comms.

Now OK , DoPT Conducts an On line RTI Course to All Citizens of this Country who are Interested or evince Interest . Let them also Give Grades . Is it similar to What AIR or DD considers Artistis . I think No . Since you have Undergone and Got a Grade it is You Yourself to Clarify the Same or DoPT. My Next Two Questions Remain and Follow .

The reason Being already There are Business Models ( I Do not want to Be Explicit for Best reasons)Erupting in Several states
Some by Retd IAS officers , Some by Serving IAS officers through Benami's , Some through NGO's . One Such Person Even Manipulated a KIC order that His Book on RTI full of errors is the only Means to Get Information(sic)

Ultimately ending Up with PIOs and PAs becoming Jombies

I am aware a Few Persons clandestinely Recurited as Advisors to a few PAs and it is these Advisors who Reply , attend FAA or Second appeal . If that is So what will the PIO do , Pay the advisor and Carry on all his Nefracious activity?

So in the Interest of Transperancy and Good Governance use of such Certificates or Gradations will Create Harm than usefulness
N vikramsimha , KRIA Koota , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.

--- On Thu, 3/5/12, NIRAJ <nirajklko@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: NIRAJ <nirajklko@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Need Help in framing the right questions
To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, 3 May, 2012, 6:37 PM

De friend I am astonished that so well versed person like you is not aware of this Course. Kindly find on Google for RTI online Certification and you will know all details. Though we both are far apart but I know your goodself very well as an authority and very active contributor for the RTI implementation and various studies done by you.

Dr. NIRAJ KUMAR
C-4/8, RIVER BANK COLONY
LUCKNOW - 226018
INDIA
Mob.: +91+9415787095

From: Vikram Simha <vikramsimha54@yahoo.co.in>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Cc: nirajklko@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2012 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Need Help in framing the right questions

What is DOPT certified A Grade for RTI ? When Did DoPT Start giving these Certificates .?

Will these Certifications Qualify One person to be a Resource Person ?

I Myself have a Certificate But ssused by a Different authority way Back in 2006 itself . It does not give any Gradation

N vikramsimha , KRIA Koota , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004. --- On Sun, 29/4/12, NIRAJ <nirajklko@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: NIRAJ <nirajklko@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Need Help in framing the right questions
To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Date: Sunday, 29 April, 2012, 7:47 AM

Dear friend May I clarify that you can not expect redressal of a complaint under RTI Act. Only querries are to be asked. Moreover you can not ask why, when whhere etc. Rather if you wish to know the details you can ask for the File notings and inspection of relevant file.

However I would suggest U to kindly go through my exhaustive book "TREATISE ON RTI ACT 2005" PUBLISHED BY M/S BHARAT LAW HOUSE , NEW DELHI with relevant Case Laws, Commentary and trick on asking questions. with FREE C.D. of various Supreme Court and High Court Judgements.

I am also Dopt Certified "A" Grade for RTI and e-Governance by Govt. of India. Still if you have doubts kindly feel free to call me.

Dr. NIRAJ KUMAR C-4/8, RIVER BANK COLONY LUCKNOW - 226018 INDIA Mob.: +91+9415787095

From: Omkar Razdan <niyamshanti@yahoo.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2012 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Need Help in framing the right questions

DEAR FRIEND PL SEND THE EXACT QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANT TO ASK NOW? SECONDLY SEND THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE REBUTTED IN THE NEGATIVE.

OMKAR RAZDAN --- On Sat, 28/4/12, Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@yahoo.com>
Subject: [HumJanenge] Need Help in framing the right questions
To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, 28 April, 2012, 8:54 PM

Dear members

please advise me on following query

I have complained to a regional director of education about some malpractice being followed by a school.

he didnt reacted on the complaint so far. i want to put an RTI and want to under reason behind his in-action.

i remember in one of my cases with CIC, Mr SG mention that we cant ask question or reasons from any PIO....

i am not sure whether is right or wrong but i need your help in advising me that whether i can ask reason for inaction or how should i frame my question so that i can understand his reason of non action

please advise

regards

Mohit

Re: [HumJanenge] How can we Prevent the On-going Blunders in India - Is RTI Helpful ?

Respected Sir,

I am ready to volunteer for the cause as if you wish to include me. I will be happy to communicate with the government Babus thru mail and telephone.

Regards,

Hemant

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Mahesh

Messages from this RTI related forum go out to about 10,000 persons.

The "10 million" reference is about another of my social work
associations which is
not connected with RTI, (but with A) nation building as per Indian
tradition B) Elimination of corrupt persons).

As we can all sense, l and I'm sure nobody will deny it, the Indian
people are sheep who can be easily brainwashed, controlled by foreign
parasites, and easily led astray into wasting their time in blind
alleys and useless activities. (ie. "Lotus Eaters"). It is only our
Defence forces which have held the nation together (until now). After
retirement most of glorious IESMs revert to mean and indulge in Lotus
Eating activities.

If even 50 of our IESM members volunteer to send just 2 emails
(drafted by me) to babus (selected by me) ONCE a MONTH, we will
witness change taking place before our eyes and in our lifetimes.

Screw social media and public battles - those are for Lotus Eating
NGOs. Patriots execute covert actions against precise targets based
on proper intelligence.

For instance, I want 50 volunteers to send an email (which I have
already sent in my own name) to the Babus concerning how 8,000
Ministry of Defence computers were hacked by the Chinese and the babus
are still fighting over who will investigate the matter. No
investigation has taken place and 1000's of Top Secret files of Army
and Assam Rifles were sucked out of MoD computers and these computers
are still connected to the Internet leaking away to our Enemy No.1.

After this I want to send an email about a recent CONFIDENTAIL Cabinet
Secretariat project which re-employs retired babus at per-diems of Rs.
5,000 per day with stay in 4 star hotels in Delhi and regular to=fro
air tickets etc. The names of the people selected are an eye opener.

Sarbajit

On 5/3/12, Mahesh Khera <mkkhera@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> US, Canada, China, Korea, 26 EU nations and 10 other developed nations are
> on a high speed irrevocable growth path of encouraging and implementing
> Telecom, Media and Technology (TMT) infrastructure. This infrastructure has
> been growing their economies as also helping them to lead mostly a
> corruption free life. All this is due to their educated, mature, relatively
> honest and committed political leadership kept in solid monitoring and
> control mode by their people, quick and hawk like media and swift
> judiciary. >> India has already nearly destroyed one of its most essential
> infrastructures, telecom and it now has been brought in line with our every
> other dismal infrastructure like roads, power, education, health,
> transportation, ports, airports and so on. More importantly, a ubiquitous
> TMT infrastructure is a pre-requisite to curb corruption. Lokpals/Lokayuktas
> and honest judiciary can bring to little extent but when combined with e
> governance, a very sharp decline in corruption is achieved in quickest time.
> We have already destroyed both the growth prospects of our GDP as also the
> dreams of controlling corruption.
>
> In the absence of any other means, can RTI be used to gather necessary
> inputs and then combined with media quickly disseminate these to the people
> like a viral letting them know how our political leadership through their
> unintelligent, immature and dishonest commitment to their oaths which they
> all took when they became MPs/MLAs, ministers and so on has been taking the
> country behind while the rest of the world is marching ahead with
> improvements after improvements. Just to cite only one example, South Korea
> a war ravaged nation got its independence much later than India, its one
> company Samsung alone generates more than $ 160 billion of annual revenue
> and just recently beaten Apple to second place in its own backyards in US.
> Look at the policies followed by them and what India has done. We have no
> place to hide our selves from this shame.
>
> Through this single largest forum in the country, more than 10 million as
> per Mr Sarbajit, lets take up what ever we can to raise this awareness like
> a viral among the people of India.
>
> Jai Hind
>
> With warm regards,
>
> Col Mahesh Khera

Re: [HumJanenge] How can we Prevent the On-going Blunders in India - Is RTI Helpful ?

sir, count me as volunteer. rgds. beniwal

--- On Fri, 4/5/12, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] How can we Prevent the On-going Blunders in India - Is RTI Helpful ?
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, 4 May, 2012, 8:50 PM

Dear Mahesh

Messages from this RTI related forum go out to about 10,000 persons.

The "10 million" reference is about another of my social work
associations which is
not connected with RTI, (but with A) nation building as per Indian
tradition B) Elimination of corrupt persons).

As we can all sense, l and I'm sure nobody will deny it, the Indian
people are sheep who can be easily brainwashed, controlled by foreign
parasites, and easily led astray into wasting their time in blind
alleys and useless activities. (ie. "Lotus Eaters"). It is only our
Defence forces which have held the nation together (until now). After
retirement most of glorious IESMs revert to mean and indulge in Lotus
Eating activities.

If even 50 of our IESM members volunteer to send just 2 emails
(drafted by me) to babus (selected by me) ONCE a MONTH, we will
witness change taking place before our eyes and in our lifetimes.

Screw social media and public battles - those are for Lotus Eating
NGOs. Patriots execute covert actions against precise targets based
on proper intelligence.

For instance, I want 50 volunteers to send an email (which I have
already sent in my own name) to the Babus concerning how 8,000
Ministry of Defence computers were hacked by the Chinese and the babus
are still fighting over who will investigate the matter. No
investigation has taken place and 1000's of Top Secret files of Army
and Assam Rifles were sucked out of MoD computers and these computers
are still connected to the Internet leaking away to our Enemy No.1.

After this I want to send an email about a recent CONFIDENTAIL Cabinet
Secretariat project which re-employs retired babus at per-diems of Rs.
5,000 per day with stay in 4 star hotels in Delhi and regular to=fro
air tickets etc. The names of the people selected are an eye opener.

Sarbajit

On 5/3/12, Mahesh Khera <mkkhera@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> US, Canada, China, Korea, 26 EU nations and 10 other developed nations are
> on a high speed irrevocable growth path of encouraging and implementing
> Telecom, Media and Technology (TMT) infrastructure. This infrastructure has
> been growing their economies as also helping them to lead mostly a
> corruption free life. All this is due to their educated, mature, relatively
> honest and committed political leadership kept in solid monitoring and
> control mode by their people, quick and hawk like media and swift
> judiciary. >> India has already nearly destroyed one of its most essential
> infrastructures, telecom and it now has been brought in line with our every
> other dismal infrastructure like roads, power, education, health,
> transportation, ports, airports and so on. More importantly, a ubiquitous
> TMT infrastructure is a pre-requisite to curb corruption. Lokpals/Lokayuktas
> and honest judiciary can bring to little extent but when combined with e
> governance, a very sharp decline in corruption is achieved in quickest time.
> We have already destroyed both the growth prospects of our GDP as also the
> dreams of controlling corruption.
>
> In the absence of any other means, can RTI be used to gather necessary
> inputs and then combined with media quickly disseminate these to the people
> like a viral letting them know how our political leadership through their
> unintelligent, immature and dishonest commitment to their oaths which they
> all took when they became MPs/MLAs, ministers and so on has been taking the
> country behind while the rest of the world is marching ahead with
> improvements after improvements. Just to cite only one example, South Korea
> a war ravaged nation got its independence much later than India, its one
> company Samsung alone generates more than $ 160 billion of annual revenue
> and just recently beaten Apple to second place in its own backyards in US.
> Look at the policies followed by them and what India has done. We have no
> place to hide our selves from this shame.
>
> Through this single largest forum in the country, more than 10 million as
> per Mr Sarbajit, lets take up what ever we can to raise this awareness like
> a viral among the people of India.
>
> Jai Hind
>
> With warm regards,
>
> Col Mahesh Khera

Re: [HumJanenge] How can we Prevent the On-going Blunders in India - Is RTI Helpful ?

[HumJanenge] Mal-functioning of Odisha Information Commission (6)- Case closed without ensuring Complete Information

Mal-functioning of Odisha Information Commission (6)

Mr. Jagadanand, State Information Commissioner disposed and closed a Complaint Case No. 2532/10 on dt. 23.3.2012 taking into granted the submission Note filed by the PIO that the complete information supplied to the Complainant. But the information supplied by the PIO is found incomplete. Now the question arises what the Complainant will do and how will he get the complete information. In Odisha , State Information Commissioners never reopen the case once it is disposed and closed. Thousands of RTI Users are the victims of such nefarious practice of Odisha Information Commission and deprived of getting complete information.

Dear friends

Mr. Motilal Mishra, RTI Applicant ( Mobile No. - 8908934368) of Bolangir district had submitted RTI Application on 5.10.2010 to the Public Information Officer, office of Community Health Centre / Primary Health Centre, Jamgaon , Bolangir seeking some information about functioning of Rogi Kalyan Samiti. Getting no response from PIO, Mr. Mishra made a Complaint to Odisha Information Commission on 27.12.2010.

After more than one year, Mr. Jagadanand, SIC(J) heard the case on 19.1.2012, directed the PIO to provide the complete information within 15 days to the Complainant free of cost and fixed date 27.2.2012 for another hearing. The copy of order was received by the Complainant on 19.2.2012.

On 27.2.2012, Mr. Jagadanad heard the case. Finding no compliance report of his order dated 19.1.2012, he against instructed to the Head of Public Authority i.e., Medical In-charge of CHC to ensure furnishing information and issued show cause notice to the PIO to explain the delay caused in this case and put up the case for further hearing on 23.3.2012.

In the meantime, the PIO supplied the information to the Complainant which are found incomplete. On 12.3.2012, the Complainant informed to the Commission about the information supplied by the PIO and demanded penalty under section 20 of the RTI Act.

0n 23.3.2012, The PIO making his appearance before the Commission submitted that he had not received the RTI application and however supplied the information to the Complainant through registered post at the direction of the Commission. Mr. Jagadanand did not verify the document to examine the allegation of the Complainant and submission of the PIO that

a. Whether RTI application was submitted

b. Whether the information supplied are complete

c. Whether the PIO deserves to be penalized. Because in the earlier order, the Commission has issued show cause notice to the PIO.

It was found that there is no mention of penalty issue in the final order of the Commission. Though Mr. Jagadanand disposed the case on 23.3.2012, the copy of the decision was sent to the Complainant after 20 days i.e., on 12.4.2012 which was received by the Complainant on 25.4.2012. Getting terribly disturbed having seen the copy of final disposal of the case and getting no complete information from the PIO, the Complainant out of disgust has requested the Commission on 2 9.4.2012 to reopen the case and ensure complete information and impose penalty on PIO under section 20 of the RTI Act for causing long delay in supplying information

Let us see how Mr. Jagadanand will give justice to the Complainant. This is not a single case but one of thousand of cases in which the Mr. Jagadanand has disposed the cases without ensuring the information.

Wait for more stories.

Regards

Pradip Pradhan

M-99378-43482

Date-4.5.2012

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From: rajesh bhatt <sirrajeshbhatt@yahoo.co.uk>
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 4 May 2012, 16:36
Subject: Fw: Re: [hamarasociety] Fw: [rti4empowerment] Please sign a Online Petition:

--- On Tue, 1/5/12, rajesh bhatt <sirrajeshbhatt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: rajesh bhatt <sirrajeshbhatt@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [hamarasociety] Fw: [rti4empowerment] Please sign a Online Petition:
To: "hwward" <hw_ward_citizens_forum@yahoogroups.co.in>, hamarasociety@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 1 May, 2012, 11:23

President must be elected by We the People of India not MP's or any parties. In that case Ruber Stamp will be removed remote controls will be disabled.

--- On Mon, 30/4/12, LESLIE ALMEIDA <lesals2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: LESLIE ALMEIDA <lesals2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: [hamarasociety] Fw: [rti4empowerment] Please sign a Online Petition:
To: "hwward" <hw_ward_citizens_forum@yahoogroups.co.in>
Date: Monday, 30 April, 2012, 22:32

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: haridas mandal <acsman123@yahoo.co.in>
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] Please sign a Online Petition:

And Israel is the only suitable country to buy military arsenals and intercepting gadgets.No Hara Kiri please.

From: haridas mandal <acsman123@yahoo.co.in>
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] Please sign a Online Petition:

Dr APJ Kalam had his innings. It is the turn for someone who does not talk of missiles and allow India to buy military arsenals from Israel.It is time who will talk straight about basic amenities first starting with more toilets and enough drinking waters for every body.

From: milapchoraria <milapchoraria@gmail.com>
To: INDIA RTI for empowerment <rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 28 April 2012 5:55 PM
Subject: [rti4empowerment] Please sign a Online Petition:
Please sign a Online Petition:Dr. A. P. J. Kalam, is most suitable candidate for the Office of theNext President of India.Milap ChorariaPetitiononline:-http://www.change.org/petitions/political-parties-dr-a-p-j-kalam-suitable-candidate-for-next-president-of-india

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RE: [hamarasociety] Fw: [rti4empowerment] Please sign a Online Petition:

Dear sir
It requires a change in constitution of India.Change in constitution is possible only when Indians are free.Please note that India is free but not the Indians.
Dr N C Jain
4-5-12

Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 12:06:20 +0100
From: sirrajeshbhatt@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Fw: Re: [hamarasociety] Fw: [rti4empowerment] Please sign a Online Petition:
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com

--- On Tue, 1/5/12, rajesh bhatt <sirrajeshbhatt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: rajesh bhatt <sirrajeshbhatt@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [hamarasociety] Fw: [rti4empowerment] Please sign a Online Petition:
To: "hwward" <hw_ward_citizens_forum@yahoogroups.co.in>, hamarasociety@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 1 May, 2012, 11:23

President must be elected by We the People of India not MP's or any parties. In that case Ruber Stamp will be removed remote controls will be disabled.

--- On Mon, 30/4/12, LESLIE ALMEIDA <lesals2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: LESLIE ALMEIDA <lesals2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: [hamarasociety] Fw: [rti4empowerment] Please sign a Online Petition:
To: "hwward" <hw_ward_citizens_forum@yahoogroups.co.in>
Date: Monday, 30 April, 2012, 22:32

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: haridas mandal <acsman123@yahoo.co.in>
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] Please sign a Online Petition:

And Israel is the only suitable country to buy military arsenals and intercepting gadgets.No Hara Kiri please.

From: haridas mandal <acsman123@yahoo.co.in>
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] Please sign a Online Petition:

Dr APJ Kalam had his innings. It is the turn for someone who does not talk of missiles and allow India to buy military arsenals from Israel.It is time who will talk straight about basic amenities first starting with more toilets and enough drinking waters for every body.

From: milapchoraria <milapchoraria@gmail.com>
To: INDIA RTI for empowerment <rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 28 April 2012 5:55 PM
Subject: [rti4empowerment] Please sign a Online Petition:

Please sign a Online Petition:

Dr. A. P. J. Kalam, is most suitable candidate for the Office of the
Next President of India.

Milap Choraria

Petitiononline:-

http://www.change.org/petitions/political-parties-dr-a-p-j-kalam-suitable-candidate-for-next-president-of-india

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