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Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

Hi All

In pakistan the leaders, if they need to win elections they have only one agenda. . . KASHMIR, for them poverty, development, economy, good governance etc never ever matters, so in the same way for AMMA AND APPA ( Mr karunanithi) to win elections this is one MANTRA, by default the central govt gives them the acceleration.

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On Sunday, 21 September 2014 12:16 AM, Madhav Nalapat <mdnalapat@gmail.com> wrote:

Tell that to Rajnath Singh

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hindi vs non hindi - wow - are we in the 1950s again- or is this forum being run by people who had their youth then? - LOL

Sanjay Sarup

MS Orth, DNB Orth, MCh Orth (UK), FRCS(Glasgow, UK)

Director - Pediatric Orthopedics & Spine Surgery

Artemis Healthcare

From: mgr_rajan@hotmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 14:26:16 +0530
Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

It is human psychology to resist anything that is imposed, while we go after, paying through our nose, to do things we like, like learning fro e.g., Russian to work under a a Russian boss or marry a Russian lady. That is the subtle difference. Democracy is about the majority opinion, but minorities too need attention.

From: shantibhush@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 12:35:48 +0530
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

Well said.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 17, 2014, at 8:10 AM, "colarun.joshi@gmail.com" <colarun.joshi@gmail.com> wrote:

God when are we going to grow up. I am willing to learn russian french etc by paying through my nose and feel proud about it. But get a constipation whrn asked to accept Hindi for functionality. Mera Bharat Mahan

Sent from Samsung Mobile

-------- Original message --------
From: Ramakrishnan N
Date:15/09/2014 21:45 (GMT+05:30)
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

I fully share your views

On Monday, September 15, 2014, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:

To

India Against Corruption

IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

It is surprising that those in charge of policy making in NDA government do not understand the intensity of the anger and frustration amongst the people in the non Hindi states due to the subtle attempts of Modi government to gradually impose Hindi.

The genuine fear of the people in the non Hindi speaking states is that they would be reduced to second class citizens in the country if Hindi would be imposed , as those speaking Hindi will get distinct advantage over the non Hindi speaking people at the national level.

Mr. Naredndra Modi does not seem to be aware of the intense and popular anti Hindi agitation in non Hindi speaking states particularly in Tamil Nadu, when Mr. Lal Bahadur Shastri was the Prime Minister. Schools and colleges had to remain closed for around three months in Tamil Nadu due to anti Hindi protest by the students. Finally, Mr. Shastri had to give an assurance that Hindi would not be made national language so long as non Hindi speaking people would not want it. The situation has not much changed as far as the imposition of Hindi is concerned.

Today, India has enough problems and there is no feelings of difference in the country on language issue. Mr. Narendra Modi should not create new issues by trying to impose Hindi.

Even today, many people in non Hindi speaking states , particularly in Tamil Nadu , feel like aliens as they do not understand Mr. Modi speaking Hindi everywhere without any translators. When he spoke in Hindi to the school children on Teacher's Day , lakhs of school students in non Hindi speaking states felt left out and wondered as to whether the Prime Minister belong to Hindi knowing people only.

N.S.Venkataraman
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Re: [IAC#RG] Assignment in Law

Dear Mr. Purobi Ghosh,

I appreciate your offer to work pro bono for a good social cause. I have a cause which perhaps you may take up. As i do not have a LLB degree i am not able to follow up in the Courts.

Facts are:

There is equal opportunities and prevention of disability Act, 1995 which mandates in section 33 to the governments to give 3 % reservation to the differently abled there is also a section in that Act that mandates the governments to ensure by giving incentives that 5 % of the work force in private sector is comprised of persons with disabilities.

National policy for the Disabled also mentions the preference will be given to persons with disabilities in procurement of goods and services by the public sector .

Also the Treaty signed by the Govt. of India specifically states that preference will be given to persons with disabilities in procurement of goods and services by the public sector .

But it is is increasing trend to outsource services by the public sector and government sector there by giving a miss to the mandatory reservation rules.

I have enough documentary evidence collected by way of RTIs that clearly say that the preference to the disabled in outsourced works is miserably absent (0%) and even the concerned ministries are deliberately ignoring it.

If you can take up this matter by way of PIL or in any other way

Regards

Ajay Chawla

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On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Purobi Ghosh Mohan <cgsi09@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sarbajit,

You are aware that I have completed my LLB this year. This is apart from the MBA degree which I hold from a reputed Management Institute.

I am interested in working with a Law firm in Mumbai and/or service NGOs in and around Mumbai.

My areas of interest primarily are -

(a) Intellectual Property Rights

(b) Consumer Protection

If required, I may offer my services on pro bono basis as well.

If any IAC member has any proposition on an assignment in an area given above, I would be glad to consider it.

My email id is cgsi09@gmail.com

Regards

Purobi Ghosh Mohan

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Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

The very fact so many responses coming to this topic shows the inherent feelings of those who comment.When a nation does not learn from history it is condemned to rrepeat it. How URDU was the unifying factor for Pakistan in 1947 but became a dividing factor during the Bangladesh war in 1971 as it was being imposed. People of India even in Hindi speaking areas just do not accept the Sankritised Hindi being imposed in the guise of patriotism and English domination. The Brahmins of Tamilnadu who due to their knowledge of Sanskrit introduced "JHa, Sah, etc etc" in Tamil during 19th century as these sounds existed in Tamil but not the scripts and so make the language easy to write. But that does not mean Sanskrit is mother of all South Indian languages. It is not. Seperatism can be kindled by these silly vote gathering methods which may get some votes in some states ( a mirage as has shown in recent elections) but can be divisive. Politicians must govern efficiently first and then do the divisive poltics later.

"Greatness lies not in never falling but in rising everytime we fall"

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On Sunday, 21 September 2014 7:08 AM, Madhav Nalapat <mdnalapat@gmail.com> wrote:

Tell that to Rajnath Singh

From: sanjay
Sent: Sunday, 21 September 2014 00:05
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Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

hindi vs non hindi - wow - are we in the 1950s again- or is this forum being run by people who had their youth then? - LOL

Sanjay Sarup
MS Orth, DNB Orth, MCh Orth (UK), FRCS(Glasgow, UK)
Director - Pediatric Orthopedics & Spine Surgery
Artemis Healthcare

From: mgr_rajan@hotmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 14:26:16 +0530
Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

It is human psychology to resist anything that is imposed, while we go after, paying through our nose, to do things we like, like learning fro e.g., Russian to work under a a Russian boss or marry a Russian lady. That is the subtle difference. Democracy is about the majority opinion, but minorities too need attention.

From: shantibhush@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 12:35:48 +0530
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

Well said.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 17, 2014, at 8:10 AM, "colarun.joshi@gmail.com" <colarun.joshi@gmail.com> wrote:

God when are we going to grow up. I am willing to learn russian french etc by paying through my nose and feel proud about it. But get a constipation whrn asked to accept Hindi for functionality. Mera Bharat Mahan

Sent from Samsung Mobile

-------- Original message --------
From: Ramakrishnan N
Date:15/09/2014 21:45 (GMT+05:30)
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

I fully share your views

On Monday, September 15, 2014, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:

To

India Against Corruption

IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

It is surprising that those in charge of policy making in NDA government do not understand the intensity of the anger and frustration amongst the people in the non Hindi states due to the subtle attempts of Modi government to gradually impose Hindi.

The genuine fear of the people in the non Hindi speaking states is that they would be reduced to second class citizens in the country if Hindi would be imposed , as those speaking Hindi will get distinct advantage over the non Hindi speaking people at the national level.

Mr. Naredndra Modi does not seem to be aware of the intense and popular anti Hindi agitation in non Hindi speaking states particularly in Tamil Nadu, when Mr. Lal Bahadur Shastri was the Prime Minister. Schools and colleges had to remain closed for around three months in Tamil Nadu due to anti Hindi protest by the students. Finally, Mr. Shastri had to give an assurance that Hindi would not be made national language so long as non Hindi speaking people would not want it. The situation has not much changed as far as the imposition of Hindi is concerned.

Today, India has enough problems and there is no feelings of difference in the country on language issue. Mr. Narendra Modi should not create new issues by trying to impose Hindi.

Even today, many people in non Hindi speaking states , particularly in Tamil Nadu , feel like aliens as they do not understand Mr. Modi speaking Hindi everywhere without any translators. When he spoke in Hindi to the school children on Teacher's Day , lakhs of school students in non Hindi speaking states felt left out and wondered as to whether the Prime Minister belong to Hindi knowing people only.

N.S.Venkataraman
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Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

It is important that the local languages need to have a precedence in local area. Imagine a situation when a staunch Tamilian who is first an Indian lands up at Gaya in Bihar for the pind daan during Pitripaksha that is on now. If he does not know Hindi or English he will have numerous problems conducting himself.. This is exacly felt when one from Bihar lands up at Chennai central station to visit TN he is at a loss to conduct himself because even English is a Taboo. So an Indian is not at home in every part of the country and the right to seek job all over the country and to settle down anywhere in the country as enshrined as our fundamental rights is not enforced due to parochial tendency of all who are not in majority in the country. Strangely Bollywood films are watched and enjoyed all over the country alongwith the TV entertainment channels.

The assurance given by Mr Nehru & Mr LBS during the anti Hindi agitation in 64-65 are verbal and is respected as assurance but the constitution that is applicable to all and is written has given Hindi a position as a link language though not as the national language..

In the name of minority rights even the constitution is being disrespected to which everyone taking oath to follow, & thus committing a perjury but who cares. That is the reasons for so many regional parties to flourish who should not have been allowed to dab in National politics. And this is exactly the scenario today. The statement of unity in diversity is no go statement just for self glorification.

Vijoy Ambasta

On 21 September 2014 00:16, Madhav Nalapat <mdnalapat@gmail.com> wrote:

Tell that to Rajnath Singh

From: sanjay
Sent: Sunday, 21 September 2014 00:05
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Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

hindi vs non hindi - wow - are we in the 1950s again- or is this forum being run by people who had their youth then? - LOL

Sanjay Sarup
MS Orth, DNB Orth, MCh Orth (UK), FRCS(Glasgow, UK)
Director - Pediatric Orthopedics & Spine Surgery
Artemis Healthcare

From: mgr_rajan@hotmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 14:26:16 +0530
Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

It is human psychology to resist anything that is imposed, while we go after, paying through our nose, to do things we like, like learning fro e.g., Russian to work under a a Russian boss or marry a Russian lady. That is the subtle difference. Democracy is about the majority opinion, but minorities too need attention.

From: shantibhush@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 12:35:48 +0530
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

Well said.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 17, 2014, at 8:10 AM, "colarun.joshi@gmail.com" <colarun.joshi@gmail.com> wrote:

God when are we going to grow up. I am willing to learn russian french etc by paying through my nose and feel proud about it. But get a constipation whrn asked to accept Hindi for functionality. Mera Bharat Mahan

Sent from Samsung Mobile

-------- Original message --------
From: Ramakrishnan N
Date:15/09/2014 21:45 (GMT+05:30)
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

I fully share your views

On Monday, September 15, 2014, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:

To

India Against Corruption

IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

It is surprising that those in charge of policy making in NDA government do not understand the intensity of the anger and frustration amongst the people in the non Hindi states due to the subtle attempts of Modi government to gradually impose Hindi.

The genuine fear of the people in the non Hindi speaking states is that they would be reduced to second class citizens in the country if Hindi would be imposed , as those speaking Hindi will get distinct advantage over the non Hindi speaking people at the national level.

Mr. Naredndra Modi does not seem to be aware of the intense and popular anti Hindi agitation in non Hindi speaking states particularly in Tamil Nadu, when Mr. Lal Bahadur Shastri was the Prime Minister. Schools and colleges had to remain closed for around three months in Tamil Nadu due to anti Hindi protest by the students. Finally, Mr. Shastri had to give an assurance that Hindi would not be made national language so long as non Hindi speaking people would not want it. The situation has not much changed as far as the imposition of Hindi is concerned.

Today, India has enough problems and there is no feelings of difference in the country on language issue. Mr. Narendra Modi should not create new issues by trying to impose Hindi.

Even today, many people in non Hindi speaking states , particularly in Tamil Nadu , feel like aliens as they do not understand Mr. Modi speaking Hindi everywhere without any translators. When he spoke in Hindi to the school children on Teacher’s Day , lakhs of school students in non Hindi speaking states felt left out and wondered as to whether the Prime Minister belong to Hindi knowing people only.

N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice For The Deprived

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Ramakrishnan
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Re: [IAC#RG] Assignment in Law

Dear Shri Purobi Ghosh Mohan-ji;

Sincere thanks for your Offer to support NGOs / Consumers in and around Mumbai;

Shall definitely circulate the same if you so permit and may be our Followers / Members could contact you then;

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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 at 6:09 PM
From: "Purobi Ghosh Mohan" <cgsi09@gmail.com>
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Cc: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Subject: [IAC#RG] Assignment in Law

Dear Sarbajit,

You are aware that I have completed my LLB this year. This is apart from the MBA degree which I hold from a reputed Management Institute.

I am interested in working with a Law firm in Mumbai and/or service NGOs in and around Mumbai.

My areas of interest primarily are -

(a) Intellectual Property Rights

(b) Consumer Protection

If required, I may offer my services on pro bono basis as well.

If any IAC member has any proposition on an assignment in an area given above, I would be glad to consider it.

My email id is cgsi09@gmail.com

Regards

Purobi Ghosh Mohan

Sent from my iPad

Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

Well said Mr Venkataraman. Modi must concentrate on the numerous problems in India rather than start new problems that divide the people of India.

On 20-Sep-2014, at 8:34 pm, sanjay <sanjaysarup@hotmail.com> wrote:

hindi vs non hindi - wow - are we in the 1950s again- or is this forum being run by people who had their youth then? - LOL

Sanjay Sarup
MS Orth, DNB Orth, MCh Orth (UK), FRCS(Glasgow, UK)
Director - Pediatric Orthopedics & Spine Surgery
Artemis Healthcare

From: mgr_rajan@hotmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 14:26:16 +0530
Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

It is human psychology to resist anything that is imposed, while we go after, paying through our nose, to do things we like, like learning fro e.g., Russian to work under a a Russian boss or marry a Russian lady. That is the subtle difference. Democracy is about the majority opinion, but minorities too need attention.

From: shantibhush@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 12:35:48 +0530
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

Well said.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 17, 2014, at 8:10 AM, "colarun.joshi@gmail.com" <colarun.joshi@gmail.com> wrote:

God when are we going to grow up. I am willing to learn russian french etc by paying through my nose and feel proud about it. But get a constipation whrn asked to accept Hindi for functionality. Mera Bharat Mahan

Sent from Samsung Mobile

-------- Original message --------
From: Ramakrishnan N
Date:15/09/2014 21:45 (GMT+05:30)
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

I fully share your views

On Monday, September 15, 2014, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:

To

India Against Corruption

IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

It is surprising that those in charge of policy making in NDA government do not understand the intensity of the anger and frustration amongst the people in the non Hindi states due to the subtle attempts of Modi government to gradually impose Hindi.

The genuine fear of the people in the non Hindi speaking states is that they would be reduced to second class citizens in the country if Hindi would be imposed , as those speaking Hindi will get distinct advantage over the non Hindi speaking people at the national level.

Mr. Naredndra Modi does not seem to be aware of the intense and popular anti Hindi agitation in non Hindi speaking states particularly in Tamil Nadu, when Mr. Lal Bahadur Shastri was the Prime Minister. Schools and colleges had to remain closed for around three months in Tamil Nadu due to anti Hindi protest by the students. Finally, Mr. Shastri had to give an assurance that Hindi would not be made national language so long as non Hindi speaking people would not want it. The situation has not much changed as far as the imposition of Hindi is concerned.

Today, India has enough problems and there is no feelings of difference in the country on language issue. Mr. Narendra Modi should not create new issues by trying to impose Hindi.

Even today, many people in non Hindi speaking states , particularly in Tamil Nadu , feel like aliens as they do not understand Mr. Modi speaking Hindi everywhere without any translators. When he spoke in Hindi to the school children on Teacher's Day , lakhs of school students in non Hindi speaking states felt left out and wondered as to whether the Prime Minister belong to Hindi knowing people only.

N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice For The Deprived

--
Best Wishes,
Ramakrishnan
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Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

Tell that to Rajnath Singh

From: sanjay

Sent: Sunday, 21 September 2014 00:05

To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net

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Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

hindi vs non hindi - wow - are we in the 1950s again- or is this forum being run by people who had their youth then? - LOL

Sanjay Sarup

MS Orth, DNB Orth, MCh Orth (UK), FRCS(Glasgow, UK)

Director - Pediatric Orthopedics & Spine Surgery

Artemis Healthcare

From: mgr_rajan@hotmail.com
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 14:26:16 +0530
Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

From: shantibhush@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 12:35:48 +0530
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

Well said.

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On Sep 17, 2014, at 8:10 AM, "colarun.joshi@gmail.com" <colarun.joshi@gmail.com> wrote:

God when are we going to grow up. I am willing to learn russian french etc by paying through my nose and feel proud about it. But get a constipation whrn asked to accept Hindi for functionality. Mera Bharat Mahan

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-------- Original message --------
From: Ramakrishnan N
Date:15/09/2014 21:45 (GMT+05:30)
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

I fully share your views

On Monday, September 15, 2014, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:

To

India Against Corruption

IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

It is surprising that those in charge of policy making in NDA government do not understand the intensity of the anger and frustration amongst the people in the non Hindi states due to the subtle attempts of Modi government to gradually impose Hindi.

The genuine fear of the people in the non Hindi speaking states is that they would be reduced to second class citizens in the country if Hindi would be imposed , as those speaking Hindi will get distinct advantage over the non Hindi speaking people at the national level.

Mr. Naredndra Modi does not seem to be aware of the intense and popular anti Hindi agitation in non Hindi speaking states particularly in Tamil Nadu, when Mr. Lal Bahadur Shastri was the Prime Minister. Schools and colleges had to remain closed for around three months in Tamil Nadu due to anti Hindi protest by the students. Finally, Mr. Shastri had to give an assurance that Hindi would not be made national language so long as non Hindi speaking people would not want it. The situation has not much changed as far as the imposition of Hindi is concerned.

Today, India has enough problems and there is no feelings of difference in the country on language issue. Mr. Narendra Modi should not create new issues by trying to impose Hindi.

Even today, many people in non Hindi speaking states , particularly in Tamil Nadu , feel like aliens as they do not understand Mr. Modi speaking Hindi everywhere without any translators. When he spoke in Hindi to the school children on Teacher's Day , lakhs of school students in non Hindi speaking states felt left out and wondered as to whether the Prime Minister belong to Hindi knowing people only.

N.S.Venkataraman
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RE: [IAC#RG] Islamic State - Ram Rajya - God Governance

VERY GOOD THOUGHTS

Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:34:48 +0530
From: ghulam.kundanam@gmail.com
To:
Subject: [IAC#RG] Islamic State - Ram Rajya - God Governance

Islamic State - Ram Rajya - God Governance
.................................................................
 
 
Islamic State
-------------------
 
sachchai imandari aur neki hi
sidha rasta hai islam ka,
muhabbat bhaichare ka majhab,
haque dilata har insan ka.
 
pak  chij hi halaal jisme,
naapak sab haraam hai,
jurm, nafrat aur dasatgardi,
yah to saitan ka kaam hai.
 
 
Ram Rajya
----------------
 
satya aur nyay aisa sundar,
sher - hiran sang pani peete,
prem praspar itna sabme,
sab ek-dusre ke liye jite.
 
apradh nahi hota kabhi,
man karm ya vani se bhi,
jo koi danga-loot machaye,
nahi ho sakta rambhakt kabhi.
 
 
God Governance
-------------------------
 
Love, truth and humanity,
base of the all religion,
we must save all creatures,
including lambs and pigeon.
 
Save all serve all,
God governance enhance,
save the innocent citizen all
Stop the Bombing dance.
 
ॐ . ੴ . اللّٰه . † …….
Om.Onkar. Allâh.God…..
Jai Hind! Jai Jagat (Universe)!
 
- Ghulam Kundanam.
  20-09-2014.
 
 
FB Link :-
 
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=832567760121240&set=a.141448499233173.21244.100001040727520&type=1&theater

RE: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

hindi vs non hindi - wow - are we in the 1950s again- or is this forum being run by people who had their youth then? - LOL

Sanjay Sarup

MS Orth, DNB Orth, MCh Orth (UK), FRCS(Glasgow, UK)

Director - Pediatric Orthopedics & Spine Surgery

Artemis Healthcare

From: mgr_rajan@hotmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 14:26:16 +0530
Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

From: shantibhush@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 12:35:48 +0530
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

Well said.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 17, 2014, at 8:10 AM, "colarun.joshi@gmail.com" <colarun.joshi@gmail.com> wrote:

God when are we going to grow up. I am willing to learn russian french etc by paying through my nose and feel proud about it. But get a constipation whrn asked to accept Hindi for functionality. Mera Bharat Mahan

Sent from Samsung Mobile

-------- Original message --------
From: Ramakrishnan N
Date:15/09/2014 21:45 (GMT+05:30)
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

I fully share your views

On Monday, September 15, 2014, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:

To

India Against Corruption

IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

It is surprising that those in charge of policy making in NDA government do not understand the intensity of the anger and frustration amongst the people in the non Hindi states due to the subtle attempts of Modi government to gradually impose Hindi.

The genuine fear of the people in the non Hindi speaking states is that they would be reduced to second class citizens in the country if Hindi would be imposed , as those speaking Hindi will get distinct advantage over the non Hindi speaking people at the national level.

Mr. Naredndra Modi does not seem to be aware of the intense and popular anti Hindi agitation in non Hindi speaking states particularly in Tamil Nadu, when Mr. Lal Bahadur Shastri was the Prime Minister. Schools and colleges had to remain closed for around three months in Tamil Nadu due to anti Hindi protest by the students. Finally, Mr. Shastri had to give an assurance that Hindi would not be made national language so long as non Hindi speaking people would not want it. The situation has not much changed as far as the imposition of Hindi is concerned.

Today, India has enough problems and there is no feelings of difference in the country on language issue. Mr. Narendra Modi should not create new issues by trying to impose Hindi.

Even today, many people in non Hindi speaking states , particularly in Tamil Nadu , feel like aliens as they do not understand Mr. Modi speaking Hindi everywhere without any translators. When he spoke in Hindi to the school children on Teacher's Day , lakhs of school students in non Hindi speaking states felt left out and wondered as to whether the Prime Minister belong to Hindi knowing people only.

N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice For The Deprived

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[IAC#RG] Assignment in Law

Dear Sarbajit,

You are aware that I have completed my LLB this year. This is apart from the MBA degree which I hold from a reputed Management Institute.

I am interested in working with a Law firm in Mumbai and/or service NGOs in and around Mumbai.

My areas of interest primarily are -

(a) Intellectual Property Rights

(b) Consumer Protection

If required, I may offer my services on pro bono basis as well.

If any IAC member has any proposition on an assignment in an area given above, I would be glad to consider it.

My email id is cgsi09@gmail.com

Regards

Purobi Ghosh Mohan

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Re: [IAC#RG] Islamic State - Ram Rajya - God Governance

This is very relevant, indeed. Thanks for sharing it, Ghulam Kundanam.

Jarjum

On 9/20/14, Ghulam kundanam <ghulam.kundanam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Islamic State - Ram Rajya - God Governance
> .................................................................
>
>
> Islamic State
> -------------------
>
> sachchai imandari aur neki hi
> sidha rasta hai islam ka,
> muhabbat bhaichare ka majhab,
> haque dilata har insan ka.
>
> pak chij hi halaal jisme,
> naapak sab haraam hai,
> jurm, nafrat aur dasatgardi,
> yah to saitan ka kaam hai.
>
>
> Ram Rajya
> ----------------
>
> satya aur nyay aisa sundar,
> sher - hiran sang pani peete,
> prem praspar itna sabme,
> sab ek-dusre ke liye jite.
>
> apradh nahi hota kabhi,
> man karm ya vani se bhi,
> jo koi danga-loot machaye,
> nahi ho sakta rambhakt kabhi.
>
>
> God Governance
> -------------------------
>
> Love, truth and humanity,
> base of the all religion,
> we must save all creatures,
> including lambs and pigeon.
>
> Save all serve all,
> God governance enhance,
> save the innocent citizen all
> Stop the Bombing dance.
>
> ॐ . ੴ . اللّٰه . † …….
> Om.Onkar. Allâh.God…..
> Jai Hind! Jai Jagat (Universe)!
>
> - Ghulam Kundanam.
> 20-09-2014.
>
>
> FB Link :-
>
> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=832567760121240&set=a.141448499233173.21244.100001040727520&type=1&theater
>

--
Jarjum Ete

RE: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

20/9/14

Dear Mr. S. Roy,

I agree with you that Mr. Venkatarman should have not raised this issue knowing that it was discussed in the past and opinion was sharply divided. Same is evident now with various postings on this issue.

The only change between then and now is Modi factor. He has also clarified that Hindi will not be imposed. But if he himself feels comfortable speaking in Hindi what is wrong with it . His speaking to school children or to the foreign dignatories is also a non-issue.

If we look back on world history from the sixteenth century, you will see how the Europeans discovered North America and later India in search of spices, colonised North and South America, Asia and Pacific nations, spread their languages and culture

and way of life, with the result that today we have ceased to think of nothing beyond what Europeans want us to think and act.

Regds

JKGaur

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 21:42:45 +0530
From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

Dear Mr Venkatraman
 
This is an emotive and divisive issue which has been discussed several
times before here. Nothing will be served by going over the same
ground. in any case Mr. Modi is not Mr Shastri.
 
Yes, Mr. Modi belongs to the Hindi knowing group (he knows some /
enough English). Get used to the new reality - "jaise Raja vaise
Praja' (what the King is so must be the people). If you want English
back, you know who to vote for next as PM (even if he is a sex-addict
junkie / flunky).
 
Sarbajit
 
On 9/15/14, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
> To
>
> India Against Corruption
>
> IMPOSITION  OF  HINDI  ON  NON  HINDI  SPEAKING  STATES
>
> It is surprising that those in charge of policy making in NDA  government
> do not understand the intensity of the anger and frustration  amongst the
> people in the non Hindi states due to the subtle attempts of Modi
> government to gradually impose Hindi.
>
> The genuine fear of the people in the non Hindi speaking states is that
> they would be reduced to second class citizens in the country  if Hindi
> would be imposed , as those speaking Hindi will get distinct advantage over
> the non Hindi speaking people at the national level.
>
> Mr. Naredndra Modi does not seem to be aware of the  intense and popular
> anti Hindi agitation in non Hindi speaking states particularly in Tamil
> Nadu, when Mr. Lal Bahadur Shastri was the Prime Minister.  Schools and
> colleges had to remain closed for around three months in Tamil Nadu due to
> anti Hindi  protest by the students. Finally, Mr. Shastri had to give an
> assurance that Hindi would not be made national language so long as non
> Hindi speaking people would not want it. The situation has not much changed
> as far as the imposition of Hindi is concerned.
>
> Today, India has enough problems and there is no feelings of difference in
> the country on  language issue. Mr. Narendra Modi  should not create new
> issues by trying to impose Hindi.
>
> Even today, many people in non Hindi speaking states , particularly in
> Tamil Nadu , feel like aliens as they do not understand Mr. Modi speaking
> Hindi everywhere without any translators. When he spoke in Hindi to the
> school children on Teacher's Day , lakhs of school students in non Hindi
> speaking states felt left out and wondered  as to whether the Prime
> Minister belong to  Hindi knowing people only.
>
> N.S.Venkataraman
>
> Nandini Voice For The Deprived

Friday, September 19, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] IMPOSITION OF HINDI ON NON HINDI SPEAKING STATES

Hi,

Sarabjit made very valid points. Hyderabad & Bangalore got Mircosift/Oracle companies because of english-speaking local workforce and not because of native languages. Gandhinagar lagged behind mainly because of this issue which Gujarat is covering up since last 5-7 years.

Insist on mother-tongue but do not resist english. Do encourage all languages, without interstate rivalries. Learn at least 3 languages. If Hindi is known to larger population in India than other Indian languages, its easier to popularise Hindi as a common language. As Sarabjit rightly pointed out, this is the tool to succeed over foreign countries.

On 19 September 2014 21:15, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Kumarji

As your comment summarises the feelings of a thought process held by
many Indians, it is necessary for me to respond to it. As Shanti
Bhushanji is one of the leading seniors in IAC we must carefully read
his advice on this subject, and my additions thereon.

1) Hindi is no doubt a very important language in "upper India" and
all Indians must be encouraged to learn it.

2) All India's languages, including English, must be respected and
equally regarded.

3) English is the language of information and learning today (like
Sanskrit was in the past).

4) All languages in India are "foreign" languages, including Hindi,
Urdu, Punjabi, Sanksrit etc. India is a country which has been
ravished so many times by foreigners that nobody can say with any
certainty which language is native and which is alien - it is a matter
of degree. Language is a tool to project the imperialist power of the
moment.

Now expanding from what Shanti Bhushan ji has written.

A) The Western foreigners do not want Indians to learn English. Their
secrets and knowledge and history are almost now maintained in
English. Today's world is an information based world, these bloody
westerners want that most Indians are ridiculed as speaking English
in a sing-song Peter Seller accent. They don't want it known that
India is the 2nd largest English speaking country in the World, like
the Arabs dont want it known that India has the 4th largest number of
Muslims in the world. These bastards will do everything to divide us
so we don't snatch their knowledge, jobs and economic power, and
unfortunately we get so easily divided.

B) What is the methods the Westerners use to corrupt our people -
Money, Sex and culture change !!!. They have no shortage of money to
throw at us, their women use their bodies like loose change and our
entire Indian culture (or rather lack of culture) is being replaced by
loose Western morals and easy ways. These buggers are re-writing our
nation's history on Wikipedia and Google is stealing our ancient
intellectual knowledge - what the f*** are we doing about it ?

For India to rise over foreigners-
a) Our people must be pure, free of sin and knowledgeable / wise to their wiles
b) We must beat them at their own game by mastering English.
c) We must impose our culture on them before the Arabs or Chinese do.
d) Their consumer culture must be firmly rejected.

Most importantly,

WE MUST STOP FIGHTING AMONGST OURSELVES - and focus on the enemies.

Sarbajit

On 9/18/14, Kumar <krpravesh@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tue. How hypocritical we Indians are. We can accept the language of a tiny
> island country called England, but not a language which is used and
> understood by vast majority of a vast sub continent called Bharat.
>
> For those who oppose Hindi, It's like accepting and respecting our enemy's
> mother, but not accepting and respecting our own Maasi, mother's sister.
>
> No doubt our great country was enslaved by a tiny island country. Only
> because we were never united and created our one identity.
>
> The visiting Chinese president knows English, but never speaks because he is
> proud of his national language. We feel ashamed to accept Hindi as our
> national language, but feel proud to accept English. Is it not disrespecting
> our own languages like Tamil, Telugu, Bangla, Marathi etc. if not Hindi?
>
> Kumar Pravesh.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 18-Sep-2014, at 12:35 pm, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Well said.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad

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