Saturday, April 18, 2020

Re: [IAC#RG] RTI reply

To:
Gp Capt Sanjay V Kute 
CPIO/DMRC

Sir

I thank you for attending to my RTI request diligently and providing me the information requested. The information is sufficient for my purpose of establishing that I had
formally complained in writing to DMRC (A govt company and 100% Joint Venture PSU between Central Govt and GNCTD) as far back as 01-February-2020 about gross overcrowding in DMRC metro trains and that consequently DMRC was spreading CORONA VIRUS due to "ultra dense pack conditions".

I also see from the information provided that the Station Manager has diligently recorded that I desired my complaint about overcrowding/corona virus be forwarded to higher authorities for action.

However, I am unable to understand why the action I desired was only taken on 19.March 2020
after about 200 people had been infected (officially) and about 20,000 (unofficially - ie. the silent carriers).


From the information provided to me by your goodself, I also see that my complaint although addressed to CVO/DMRC strangely appears not to have been forwarded to the CVO of DMRC as I desired. It indicates that the information provided is tampered with, prima-facie by the deemed CPIO. In the alternative it would be an extremely serious matter, considering the huge number of deaths and COVID-19 infections in Delhi, which requires that disciplinary action be taken against whosoever did not forward my complaint to the CVO of DMRC, an independent officer who would certainly have appreciated my complaint in its true perspective.

Hence, I request you to kindly see if any loose page or loose noting by CVO tagged to my complaint has been inadvertently left out in the information provided to me.

Since this concerns RTI, it may also be investigated why the DMRC Rules are not available at the stations for inspection by public as is specifically provided for in the O&M Act as well as in the RTI Act. Had the rules been there my complaint would not have been filed. I suspect that the ED (Operations) has deliberately not kept the Carriage Rules at the stations to facilitate the CORRUPT gross overloading of metro trains which was finally corrected on 19.03.2020.

With best wishes and to appreciate your reply

sincerely


Dr./Er. Sarbajit Roy

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 7:08 PM CPIO DMRC <cpiodmrc@gmail.com> wrote:

Sir, 


Kindly refer to your online RTI application dated 26.03.2020 received in DMRC seeking information under Right to Information Act'2005 vide DMRCP/R/E/20/00367. 

 

Available information received from Executive Director / Operations who is the deemed PIO as defined under section 5 (4) and 5(5) of the RTI Act is as below: - 


(a) Information in response to point number 1 & 2 -  The requested information have been attached with the present mail as Annexure "A". 


(b) Information in response to point number 3 - The requested information have been attached with the present mail as Annexure "B", "C" and "D". 


Regards 

Gp Capt Sanjay V Kute 

CPIO 

 

As per Section 19 of the Right To Information Act' 2005 if you are not satisfied with the reply , you may file an appeal within 30 days of the issue of this order to the First Appellate Authority whose particulars are : Mr. D K Saini, Director (Projects/Appellate Authority – II) , Delhi Metro Rail Corporation Ltd, 8th Floor, Metro Bhawan, Fire Brigade Lane, Barakhamba Road, New Delhi – 110001, Telefax – 011-23418307, Email – dp@dmrc.org. 

Re: [IAC#RG] Narendra Modi kuch to sharam karo !

It seems the ardent followers of PM Modi are flouting the dictat of their leader to not to communalise this issue. Top most Ministers have said that virus does not see the religion before infecting. If say 20% infections are on account of negligance of Jamat, whose negligence is responsible for rest of the 80% cases? Should we  be using same language that is being used for Jamat? You are aware that a number of birthday/marriage parties have been held by politicians during lock down, how many people got infected in them will never come in papers or in TV. 

It has been widely reported that attack on health professionals has been on account of distrust that probably got developed against administration over last couple of years. In absence of adequate representation of all communities in governance, intentions of the government perhaps do  not reach correctly to communities with no representation, and problems of this type occur.

R.N.Malhotra 

On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 10:07:25 PM GMT+5:30, Satish Kumar Kapoor <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:


what you mean ?

You only believe in Muslim Appeasement ?

Don't you feel ashamed what Jamat has done ?

Your blood does not boil to read news of attack on medical staff by muslims ?

Your blood does not boil to listen Molanas saying hindus Kafir, insukting hindu bReligion.

If your blood does not boil on what harm muslims are doing, you are just shameless person "Jai Chand Vansaj"

Modi is protecting hindus from Jihadis.

Shame to you on such a postings.

Satish

On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 11:16:44 AM GMT+5:30, Prodipto Roy <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:


Kindly change this header whoever invented it as it seems to be creating much angst. Besides, I don't expect any sharam from this government's bosses - they think they can absolve their sins in the next Maha Kumbh or later, in their next lives.

Sorry to upset your argument but I can't be a Communist as I have neither read Marx nor Mao though I did have their works in my house! (All educated people's libraries have them.) I believe in citizen's natural rights - Naisargik Adhikar jisko kahte hain.

I know about the dire situation decades of top-down policies and malgovernance have created for ordinary village people in remote so-called Maoist affected areas from first hand, in Jharkhand where my sociologist husband and I worked with 9 displaced villages for four years (in honorary capacity) in Asia's biggest opencast coal mine handed over to a foreign company and CCL by Rajiv Gandhi's government. And I have followed the pogroms against tribals and extrajudicial killings, incarceration and torture of men and women by police and paramilitaries in Chhattisgarh until the Supreme Court outlawed the state supported Salwa Judum campaign. Their plight has been exploited by armed militants and to me this represents a failure of governance on the part of the Indian state. 

When people resist venal state officials, corruption at all levels of government, displacement by mining companies (in joint ventures with NMMDC, why not with the original tillers of the land?), miserable rates of compensation for land and no compensation at all for the forest produce that forms their main source of livelihood, and state repression when they resist displacement then they often have no recourse but to join some militant movement to demand their rights as citizens. Does empathising with them constitute being a Communist? 

FYI the government commissioned an IAS officer Debu Bandhopadhay to study the situation and present his report on Left-wing Extremism in these areas. His conclusions point to the same thing - it is caused by sheer failure of governance. You can get this report online now that the Planning Commission has been abolished. Simple village people and tribal communities would never take up arms against the state, because they respect a Mai-Baap Sarkar's authority and armed resistance would be suicidal anyway as proven in the Kalinga Nagar episode in Orissa.

Btw, Debu Bandhopadhyay is by no means a Communist sympathiser either - he has been a consistent critic of the Left Front government in WB but he did help the state after the Naxalbari movement by designing and implementing the Tebhaga land rights scheme between State and people's representatives.

Can you define what is a Communist in the Indian context? Why do you think anyone who critizes any mukhouta who heads a dubiously elected government a Communist? I don't have time to read Mao and Marx but I do see a lot of criticism hurled at presidents of the US by ordinary citizens and Netizens who would never call themselves Communist. 

Where did you (Rao, Rina M. et al.) get the idea that Communism was a bad word? It's a form of government that is accepted in India. And you must know that the 'Communist' government of Kerala has done the best job in this current emergency by monitoring and containing the spread of Covid19 and reducing death rates in the state. Is that a bad thing to have done ?? 

J. Roy


On Sat, 18 Apr 2020, 09:58 jayant rao, <coljayant@gmail.com> wrote:
Communists are not happy with anything good that is happening in the country.Their destructive mind set is so tuned to see everything negative and with hatred that they have cocooned their warped mind. Roy sseems to the product of this mind set. 
Good luck

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020, 2:26 am Prodipto Roy, <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
I did not invent the title of this thread but I am not averse to it. You may support this goverment because you benefit from it. But I cannot accept a communal, minority hating and fascist goverment that has come to power twice most likely by fixing the EVMs with a hand-picked servile Gujarat cadre IAS as CEC. While it is the so-called elected government I have to follow its rules but that doesn't mean I have to praise it. 

If they genuinely start testing everyone including in remote rural areas and crowded bustees of the poor, and make adequate arrangements for the tsunami of Covid cases that will come by May-June as well as stop exporting drugs that our own people will need soon just to please our new friends, then I may change my opinion about this Sarkar, regardless of how it came to power.

Tab tak main yeh kahoongi ki yeh sarkar sharam aur karam ka MATLAB hi nahi samajhti hain. (Main yeh oopar ki heading nahi di - is silsila ko jari rakhke aap hi isko barha rahe hain!) Aapko hi khamosh rahna padega ya koi naya title se nayi sutra shuru karna padega.  

Roy

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020, 14:14 neeraj singla, <nsingla@hotmail.com> wrote:
Very very Bad

Ms Joya Roy, I can sense your hatred for everything that is Indian, especially Modiji. You also must be the Tukde Tukde gang, the anti CAA lobby, award wapsi and intolerance brigade. I can understand your pain. Your free loading must have stopped

You must be very happy the way our health workers are beaten by the goons, predominantly Muslims. Unfortunately for you, the health workers are not beaten by your so called lathi wielding RSS men.

In place of asking Modiji, Kuch to sharam karo, pl try to see your self in the mirror, I know you are thick skinned aur aap to sharam nahin karoge

Do not forget, the normal has changed. We will not accept your tantrums any more. Enough is enough. Suggest you see the link below



Anyway
Good Luck

Neeraj Singla


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Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 3:52 AM
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Narendra Modi kuch to sharam karo !
 
Re the statement that India had "10,000 cases in 75 days", we all know that that's a gross underestimate because, a) India has one of the lowest testing rates in the world such that given our population, our published data are even less credible than those of some subSaharan countries or secretive China, b) our testing protocols applied to arrivals at airports, ports, later at some state borders, or to hospital entries, and c) government admits that India is yet to develop/import on the mass scale needed, a sufficient quantity of testing kits, and indeed, of all other epidemic related equipment like PPEs, masks, ventilators, hand sanitizers, etc.

As you know this government has been allergic to the collection and disclosure of data of any kind, be they on employment, banking, PHC functioning and use in rural areas, health and malnutrition status of LIGs, of children, or whatever. So there is no mechanism to collect data on morbidity and mortality for over 80 per cent of the population who live in rural areas or urban slums. Thus the Covid+ve figure of 10,000 can't be taken seriously and  certainly not congratulate ourselves about.

In this situation, containment, with lockdowns enforced by a barbaric police force or paramilitaries including lathi wielding RSS men rather than active health status monitoring or curative health care remains the focus of this government. Tell me, how many people under lockdown actually have access to even a district hospital even in the most advanced districts of rural India? We can only hope that the stars, sunlight, UVCs, home remedies for immunity and faith in our multiple gods and godmen/women will carry that underserved 70 per cent of the population through this crisis.

(Smt.) Joya Roy
Research Editor

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020, 08:07 m.g.r. rajan, <mgr_rajan@hotmail.com> wrote:
Mr. Natarajan, Which TV news channel would you prefer to believe? Bootlicking has not stopped, only the boots have changed!
 Yesterday CNN News 18 (you know who owns it) displayed a graph showing the number of days in which different countries had 10,000 Covid-19 positive cases. We had them in 75 days. 
Iran, Italy, Spain, US etc had much higher infection rates.  South Korea had 10,000 in 71 days, China in 76 days. 
Care to comment?


From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of Natarajan <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:54 AM
To: ravi.iim.2002@gmail.com <ravi.iim.2002@gmail.com>; Indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Narendra Modi kuch to sharam karo !
 
God save India from its maligning commentators. The British quit India 73 years ago but left behind bootlicking slaves who are unable to erase their masters from their minds. People of India responded so enthusiastically to the ace motivator Modi, that, impressed by it, people of other countries publicly followed suit much to the discomfiture of slaves. Their frustration has now turned into to hatred. Even if the incident referred were true, it demonstrates the lighting response. BBC is notorious for its inaccuracy in covering India thanks to its slaves filing malicious stories to please their masters and earn a few crumbs. For them, first their master, then anyone else. Look at the quoted headline scripted from India. Enough of this nonsense.


On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 2:50, ravi kapoor
Doctors all over India are now getting increasingly concerned with the desperate shortage of reliable COVID testing kits.

Patients with acute symptoms of fever and pulmonary distress are not being tested in Government hospitals across the country as Modi's government desperately tries to keep the numbers under control by April 20th 2020 for the economy to be opened by hook or by crook.

Once again it is an Emergency like situation all across India where the only news which can be trusted is from the foreign press

Is India underreporting the coronavirus outbreak? - BBC News

We continue to stand by the @LockDownIndia Covid data projections. Our model is an extremely conservative model which could not anticipate that the Government would run out of COVID19 testing kits from 11th April onwards. Conservatively, based on international experience, there would be at least 5 cases unidentifed cases for each COVID19 conformation. As such it can be projected there would be at least 75,000 infected persons in India

The national capital Delhi ran out of accurate PCR testing kits 2 days ago (13th April 2020) when there was a huge surge of 366 confirmed cases (official data) that day.The situation was so desperate that the Director Public Health NCDC in Delhi personally flew down to Mumbai/Maharashtra so he could borrow about 120 kits which he brought back. Today (15.April.2020) only 37 tests could be conducted  in Delhi and 15 cases were identified by PCR when at least 1,200 patients were waiting to be tested on PCR after rapid testing.

God help India and save us from pot banging and candle lighting lying politicians who have put us in this mess,.

Ravi


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[IAC#RG] ADVOCATES MUST BE ON CALL 24X7

Advocates as officers of the Court have to remain available for the public round the clock to render our services in case of any legal emergency that anyone may encounter.

We owe it to this noble profession to provide legal assistance that anyone may require at any time of the day for any legal problem that they may face. 

Advocates to secure their client's rights have to attend Police Stations and also move and attend Courts besides approaching various quasi-judicial authorities.

In the current pandemic, we as Advocates must not fret away from our bounden duty but strictly observe Social distancing and all other safety protocols while dealing with our clients and when we appear before the Police Stations, Courts and other authorities to defend the legal rights of our clients.

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Re: [IAC#RG] To whom it might concern

No please wait. I've sent a msg to S. Roy of IAC. I fear some of my content was unnecessarily vituperative especially about the tampered EVMs. Which is not really verifiable. Except that during May 2019 elections I saw several videos of EVMs stacked in a BJP workers room in Kalkaji, or dumped on the highway in Gujarat, or unauthorized persons getting access to the so-called strongrooms they are stacked in for three days after voting. I'm sure AAP also did some rigging, was allowed to, in collusion with BJP. ALL parties, Congress, others, know how to hack the machines. Many foreign university faculty and AAP people and others have proven it.

Only a UN or ICJ supervised ballot paper election would be credible. 

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020, 13:29 Sandeep gupta, <drsandgupta@gmail.com> wrote:
 i think I should send a complaint to the police. 

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Prodipto Roy <prodipto.r@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] To whom it might concern
To: Sandeep gupta <drsandgupta@gmail.com>, indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>


To Dr. Sandeep Gupta. 

Thanks for your kind mail. I'm glad I'm not being singled out for abuse because I'm female! The vocabulary this Mahesh Sameer uses is unspeakable. Indiaresists should somehow ban people like this if possible. 

J. Roy

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020, 11:45 Sandeep gupta, <drsandgupta@gmail.com> wrote:
I am also facing abuses from this person

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 2:26 AM Prodipto Roy <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
Please check out this Mahesh Sameer who is threatening me with greater and greater gali. A paid troll no doubt. There are many people like this who inadvertantly join groups then start abusing people. They are cowards, perhaps taking cover behind an anonymous or false persona but notching up. their brownie points on desh bhakti to whoever their bosses are. Or maybe they are paid to do this.

Sadly, educated Indians have lost the cognitive skills of their forefathers and the ability to engage in arguments with opponents using logic and reasoning rather than abuse, name-calling and even threats. 

Joya Roy
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Re: [IAC#RG] Narendra Modi kuch to sharam karo !

what you mean ?

You only believe in Muslim Appeasement ?

Don't you feel ashamed what Jamat has done ?

Your blood does not boil to read news of attack on medical staff by muslims ?

Your blood does not boil to listen Molanas saying hindus Kafir, insukting hindu bReligion.

If your blood does not boil on what harm muslims are doing, you are just shameless person "Jai Chand Vansaj"

Modi is protecting hindus from Jihadis.

Shame to you on such a postings.

Satish

On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 11:16:44 AM GMT+5:30, Prodipto Roy <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:


Kindly change this header whoever invented it as it seems to be creating much angst. Besides, I don't expect any sharam from this government's bosses - they think they can absolve their sins in the next Maha Kumbh or later, in their next lives.

Sorry to upset your argument but I can't be a Communist as I have neither read Marx nor Mao though I did have their works in my house! (All educated people's libraries have them.) I believe in citizen's natural rights - Naisargik Adhikar jisko kahte hain.

I know about the dire situation decades of top-down policies and malgovernance have created for ordinary village people in remote so-called Maoist affected areas from first hand, in Jharkhand where my sociologist husband and I worked with 9 displaced villages for four years (in honorary capacity) in Asia's biggest opencast coal mine handed over to a foreign company and CCL by Rajiv Gandhi's government. And I have followed the pogroms against tribals and extrajudicial killings, incarceration and torture of men and women by police and paramilitaries in Chhattisgarh until the Supreme Court outlawed the state supported Salwa Judum campaign. Their plight has been exploited by armed militants and to me this represents a failure of governance on the part of the Indian state. 

When people resist venal state officials, corruption at all levels of government, displacement by mining companies (in joint ventures with NMMDC, why not with the original tillers of the land?), miserable rates of compensation for land and no compensation at all for the forest produce that forms their main source of livelihood, and state repression when they resist displacement then they often have no recourse but to join some militant movement to demand their rights as citizens. Does empathising with them constitute being a Communist? 

FYI the government commissioned an IAS officer Debu Bandhopadhay to study the situation and present his report on Left-wing Extremism in these areas. His conclusions point to the same thing - it is caused by sheer failure of governance. You can get this report online now that the Planning Commission has been abolished. Simple village people and tribal communities would never take up arms against the state, because they respect a Mai-Baap Sarkar's authority and armed resistance would be suicidal anyway as proven in the Kalinga Nagar episode in Orissa.

Btw, Debu Bandhopadhyay is by no means a Communist sympathiser either - he has been a consistent critic of the Left Front government in WB but he did help the state after the Naxalbari movement by designing and implementing the Tebhaga land rights scheme between State and people's representatives.

Can you define what is a Communist in the Indian context? Why do you think anyone who critizes any mukhouta who heads a dubiously elected government a Communist? I don't have time to read Mao and Marx but I do see a lot of criticism hurled at presidents of the US by ordinary citizens and Netizens who would never call themselves Communist. 

Where did you (Rao, Rina M. et al.) get the idea that Communism was a bad word? It's a form of government that is accepted in India. And you must know that the 'Communist' government of Kerala has done the best job in this current emergency by monitoring and containing the spread of Covid19 and reducing death rates in the state. Is that a bad thing to have done ?? 

J. Roy


On Sat, 18 Apr 2020, 09:58 jayant rao, <coljayant@gmail.com> wrote:
Communists are not happy with anything good that is happening in the country.Their destructive mind set is so tuned to see everything negative and with hatred that they have cocooned their warped mind. Roy sseems to the product of this mind set. 
Good luck

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020, 2:26 am Prodipto Roy, <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
I did not invent the title of this thread but I am not averse to it. You may support this goverment because you benefit from it. But I cannot accept a communal, minority hating and fascist goverment that has come to power twice most likely by fixing the EVMs with a hand-picked servile Gujarat cadre IAS as CEC. While it is the so-called elected government I have to follow its rules but that doesn't mean I have to praise it. 

If they genuinely start testing everyone including in remote rural areas and crowded bustees of the poor, and make adequate arrangements for the tsunami of Covid cases that will come by May-June as well as stop exporting drugs that our own people will need soon just to please our new friends, then I may change my opinion about this Sarkar, regardless of how it came to power.

Tab tak main yeh kahoongi ki yeh sarkar sharam aur karam ka MATLAB hi nahi samajhti hain. (Main yeh oopar ki heading nahi di - is silsila ko jari rakhke aap hi isko barha rahe hain!) Aapko hi khamosh rahna padega ya koi naya title se nayi sutra shuru karna padega.  

Roy

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020, 14:14 neeraj singla, <nsingla@hotmail.com> wrote:
Very very Bad

Ms Joya Roy, I can sense your hatred for everything that is Indian, especially Modiji. You also must be the Tukde Tukde gang, the anti CAA lobby, award wapsi and intolerance brigade. I can understand your pain. Your free loading must have stopped

You must be very happy the way our health workers are beaten by the goons, predominantly Muslims. Unfortunately for you, the health workers are not beaten by your so called lathi wielding RSS men.

In place of asking Modiji, Kuch to sharam karo, pl try to see your self in the mirror, I know you are thick skinned aur aap to sharam nahin karoge

Do not forget, the normal has changed. We will not accept your tantrums any more. Enough is enough. Suggest you see the link below



Anyway
Good Luck

Neeraj Singla


From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of Prodipto Roy <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 3:52 AM
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Narendra Modi kuch to sharam karo !
 
Re the statement that India had "10,000 cases in 75 days", we all know that that's a gross underestimate because, a) India has one of the lowest testing rates in the world such that given our population, our published data are even less credible than those of some subSaharan countries or secretive China, b) our testing protocols applied to arrivals at airports, ports, later at some state borders, or to hospital entries, and c) government admits that India is yet to develop/import on the mass scale needed, a sufficient quantity of testing kits, and indeed, of all other epidemic related equipment like PPEs, masks, ventilators, hand sanitizers, etc.

As you know this government has been allergic to the collection and disclosure of data of any kind, be they on employment, banking, PHC functioning and use in rural areas, health and malnutrition status of LIGs, of children, or whatever. So there is no mechanism to collect data on morbidity and mortality for over 80 per cent of the population who live in rural areas or urban slums. Thus the Covid+ve figure of 10,000 can't be taken seriously and  certainly not congratulate ourselves about.

In this situation, containment, with lockdowns enforced by a barbaric police force or paramilitaries including lathi wielding RSS men rather than active health status monitoring or curative health care remains the focus of this government. Tell me, how many people under lockdown actually have access to even a district hospital even in the most advanced districts of rural India? We can only hope that the stars, sunlight, UVCs, home remedies for immunity and faith in our multiple gods and godmen/women will carry that underserved 70 per cent of the population through this crisis.

(Smt.) Joya Roy
Research Editor

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020, 08:07 m.g.r. rajan, <mgr_rajan@hotmail.com> wrote:
Mr. Natarajan, Which TV news channel would you prefer to believe? Bootlicking has not stopped, only the boots have changed!
 Yesterday CNN News 18 (you know who owns it) displayed a graph showing the number of days in which different countries had 10,000 Covid-19 positive cases. We had them in 75 days. 
Iran, Italy, Spain, US etc had much higher infection rates.  South Korea had 10,000 in 71 days, China in 76 days. 
Care to comment?


From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of Natarajan <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:54 AM
To: ravi.iim.2002@gmail.com <ravi.iim.2002@gmail.com>; Indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Narendra Modi kuch to sharam karo !
 
God save India from its maligning commentators. The British quit India 73 years ago but left behind bootlicking slaves who are unable to erase their masters from their minds. People of India responded so enthusiastically to the ace motivator Modi, that, impressed by it, people of other countries publicly followed suit much to the discomfiture of slaves. Their frustration has now turned into to hatred. Even if the incident referred were true, it demonstrates the lighting response. BBC is notorious for its inaccuracy in covering India thanks to its slaves filing malicious stories to please their masters and earn a few crumbs. For them, first their master, then anyone else. Look at the quoted headline scripted from India. Enough of this nonsense.


On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 2:50, ravi kapoor
Doctors all over India are now getting increasingly concerned with the desperate shortage of reliable COVID testing kits.

Patients with acute symptoms of fever and pulmonary distress are not being tested in Government hospitals across the country as Modi's government desperately tries to keep the numbers under control by April 20th 2020 for the economy to be opened by hook or by crook.

Once again it is an Emergency like situation all across India where the only news which can be trusted is from the foreign press

Is India underreporting the coronavirus outbreak? - BBC News

We continue to stand by the @LockDownIndia Covid data projections. Our model is an extremely conservative model which could not anticipate that the Government would run out of COVID19 testing kits from 11th April onwards. Conservatively, based on international experience, there would be at least 5 cases unidentifed cases for each COVID19 conformation. As such it can be projected there would be at least 75,000 infected persons in India

The national capital Delhi ran out of accurate PCR testing kits 2 days ago (13th April 2020) when there was a huge surge of 366 confirmed cases (official data) that day.The situation was so desperate that the Director Public Health NCDC in Delhi personally flew down to Mumbai/Maharashtra so he could borrow about 120 kits which he brought back. Today (15.April.2020) only 37 tests could be conducted  in Delhi and 15 cases were identified by PCR when at least 1,200 patients were waiting to be tested on PCR after rapid testing.

God help India and save us from pot banging and candle lighting lying politicians who have put us in this mess,.

Ravi


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Re: [IAC#RG] Narendra Modi kuch to sharam karo !

CHANGE THE TITLE IF IT BOTHERS YOU. I DID NOT INVENT IT, SOMEONE ELSE DID. 

Why didn't you object then?

You can make it "Narendra Modi, kripya  jaag jaayiye, Aapke voters ki stithi dardniya hai." 

Can you read English? Did you not read my statement on not being a Communist. I don't even know what that is since I never read Marx or Mao. Is praising the state of Kerala which happens to have a Communist government a display of political affiliations? I do appreciate their social and human development indicators, however, and they would nevertheless have pogroms against minorities like Gujarat, UP, and other BJP ruled areas have.

And never abuse your fellow Indians on the basis of their supposed biological/ethnic/caste origins or religious affiliations either. Are you perhaps merely defending your caste men as a Gujarati Jain like Amit Bhai to be so quick in rushing to his and his protege's defence?

Please study Indian logic systems of pramana, anumana, apoha, and purvapaksha, in short, of valid cognition, before you display your ignorance of India's ancient traditions of rational debate. You can get instructions on starting from the Pathshala programme of MHRD, GOI, specially from Dr. Pradeep Gokhale's lectures.

Joya Roy

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020, 10:30 Anil Jain, <anil.jain@gmail.com> wrote:
Benagali babu you are an insane and will be insane you communist.

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 2:26 AM Prodipto Roy <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
I did not invent the title of this thread but I am not averse to it. You may support this goverment because you benefit from it. But I cannot accept a communal, minority hating and fascist goverment that has come to power twice most likely by fixing the EVMs with a hand-picked servile Gujarat cadre IAS as CEC. While it is the so-called elected government I have to follow its rules but that doesn't mean I have to praise it. 

If they genuinely start testing everyone including in remote rural areas and crowded bustees of the poor, and make adequate arrangements for the tsunami of Covid cases that will come by May-June as well as stop exporting drugs that our own people will need soon just to please our new friends, then I may change my opinion about this Sarkar, regardless of how it came to power.

Tab tak main yeh kahoongi ki yeh sarkar sharam aur karam ka MATLAB hi nahi samajhti hain. (Main yeh oopar ki heading nahi di - is silsila ko jari rakhke aap hi isko barha rahe hain!) Aapko hi khamosh rahna padega ya koi naya title se nayi sutra shuru karna padega.  

Roy

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020, 14:14 neeraj singla, <nsingla@hotmail.com> wrote:
Very very Bad

Ms Joya Roy, I can sense your hatred for everything that is Indian, especially Modiji. You also must be the Tukde Tukde gang, the anti CAA lobby, award wapsi and intolerance brigade. I can understand your pain. Your free loading must have stopped

You must be very happy the way our health workers are beaten by the goons, predominantly Muslims. Unfortunately for you, the health workers are not beaten by your so called lathi wielding RSS men.

In place of asking Modiji, Kuch to sharam karo, pl try to see your self in the mirror, I know you are thick skinned aur aap to sharam nahin karoge

Do not forget, the normal has changed. We will not accept your tantrums any more. Enough is enough. Suggest you see the link below



Anyway
Good Luck

Neeraj Singla


From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of Prodipto Roy <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 3:52 AM
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Narendra Modi kuch to sharam karo !
 
Re the statement that India had "10,000 cases in 75 days", we all know that that's a gross underestimate because, a) India has one of the lowest testing rates in the world such that given our population, our published data are even less credible than those of some subSaharan countries or secretive China, b) our testing protocols applied to arrivals at airports, ports, later at some state borders, or to hospital entries, and c) government admits that India is yet to develop/import on the mass scale needed, a sufficient quantity of testing kits, and indeed, of all other epidemic related equipment like PPEs, masks, ventilators, hand sanitizers, etc.

As you know this government has been allergic to the collection and disclosure of data of any kind, be they on employment, banking, PHC functioning and use in rural areas, health and malnutrition status of LIGs, of children, or whatever. So there is no mechanism to collect data on morbidity and mortality for over 80 per cent of the population who live in rural areas or urban slums. Thus the Covid+ve figure of 10,000 can't be taken seriously and  certainly not congratulate ourselves about.

In this situation, containment, with lockdowns enforced by a barbaric police force or paramilitaries including lathi wielding RSS men rather than active health status monitoring or curative health care remains the focus of this government. Tell me, how many people under lockdown actually have access to even a district hospital even in the most advanced districts of rural India? We can only hope that the stars, sunlight, UVCs, home remedies for immunity and faith in our multiple gods and godmen/women will carry that underserved 70 per cent of the population through this crisis.

(Smt.) Joya Roy
Research Editor

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020, 08:07 m.g.r. rajan, <mgr_rajan@hotmail.com> wrote:
Mr. Natarajan, Which TV news channel would you prefer to believe? Bootlicking has not stopped, only the boots have changed!
 Yesterday CNN News 18 (you know who owns it) displayed a graph showing the number of days in which different countries had 10,000 Covid-19 positive cases. We had them in 75 days. 
Iran, Italy, Spain, US etc had much higher infection rates.  South Korea had 10,000 in 71 days, China in 76 days. 
Care to comment?


From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of Natarajan <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:54 AM
To: ravi.iim.2002@gmail.com <ravi.iim.2002@gmail.com>; Indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Narendra Modi kuch to sharam karo !
 
God save India from its maligning commentators. The British quit India 73 years ago but left behind bootlicking slaves who are unable to erase their masters from their minds. People of India responded so enthusiastically to the ace motivator Modi, that, impressed by it, people of other countries publicly followed suit much to the discomfiture of slaves. Their frustration has now turned into to hatred. Even if the incident referred were true, it demonstrates the lighting response. BBC is notorious for its inaccuracy in covering India thanks to its slaves filing malicious stories to please their masters and earn a few crumbs. For them, first their master, then anyone else. Look at the quoted headline scripted from India. Enough of this nonsense.


On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 2:50, ravi kapoor
Doctors all over India are now getting increasingly concerned with the desperate shortage of reliable COVID testing kits.

Patients with acute symptoms of fever and pulmonary distress are not being tested in Government hospitals across the country as Modi's government desperately tries to keep the numbers under control by April 20th 2020 for the economy to be opened by hook or by crook.

Once again it is an Emergency like situation all across India where the only news which can be trusted is from the foreign press

Is India underreporting the coronavirus outbreak? - BBC News

We continue to stand by the @LockDownIndia Covid data projections. Our model is an extremely conservative model which could not anticipate that the Government would run out of COVID19 testing kits from 11th April onwards. Conservatively, based on international experience, there would be at least 5 cases unidentifed cases for each COVID19 conformation. As such it can be projected there would be at least 75,000 infected persons in India

The national capital Delhi ran out of accurate PCR testing kits 2 days ago (13th April 2020) when there was a huge surge of 366 confirmed cases (official data) that day.The situation was so desperate that the Director Public Health NCDC in Delhi personally flew down to Mumbai/Maharashtra so he could borrow about 120 kits which he brought back. Today (15.April.2020) only 37 tests could be conducted  in Delhi and 15 cases were identified by PCR when at least 1,200 patients were waiting to be tested on PCR after rapid testing.

God help India and save us from pot banging and candle lighting lying politicians who have put us in this mess,.

Ravi


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