Re: [HumJanenge] RTI experts help / opinion needed

Dwarkanath sir,

One Lokayuktha and such a big corrupt system.

Just Imagine 500 Man power of Lokayuktha has to check the 6 crore population problem where is the logic?

it is the duty of every citizen to ask for accountability, unless the system remain the same.

Poor one Honourable lokayuktha Santhosh hegde cannot eradicate the phenomina "Corruption"

 Do u Know?

The Approximate length of Golden Quadelateral (National Highway) is around 18,000 thousand kilometer.

You know there are more than 1800 toll plazas spread across this 18,000 KM.

you know each toll plaza has invested ranging from Rs.50 Crore to rs.1000 crore accordingly.

You know there monthly collection varies from Rs.15 Crore to Rs.75 Crore.

You Know Most of them have been leased from 10 to 20 years lease period.

You know Most of the companies have recently floated and aquired this toll gate tender?

Where did this new companies get so many crores of capital to float a company and get the tender?

is these companies bename?

why is the governmnet silent on this?

why is the deatsils of toll plazas and there accountability is not on National hightway web site even after 5 yaers of RTI act 2005 ?

Is the governmnet floated only to create business for capitalist and keep citizen in tension for another 100 years(unhappy)

 You know if u travel from Bangalore to Mumbai via national high way in car ( You dont have alternative road) you pay Rs.985 of toll gate charges. The Quality of the Roads are so bad but citizens are they feel better because there are no pathholes.

For 1000 kilometer there are 13 toll gates.

The Governmnet collects Road tax from vehicles . Life time tax for private vehicles and once in three months for commercial vehicles. we pay per liter of petrol approximatly  Rs.13 to Union Government and rs.11 for state governmnet plus other cess. 

after this we have to pay for toll to travel in our own country. 

why Cant the governmnet create a road for people who cannot pay toll?

is it not the duty of the governmnet to create an alternative road where there is no toll?

is the poverty a crime in india?

Citizens have sincearly paid for last 63 years for corrupt faults why is the citizen taxed on national highways?

in 2 G spectrum scandel there was a loss of Rs. 2 lakh thousand cross loss to Governmnet exchequer. if this amount was available we could have made good and beautiful roads without any toll in entire india including remote villages and rural areas.

One Ambani builds house spending Rs.4,000 Crores and another Ambani competes to build much costlier one, where as 45% of indian population who sleeps on foot paths struggle to have one time food. who will answer this 2G scandel ? i think we have got the answer. if you ask ambanis they will answer in democracy we have every right to live and earn. so lets not dare to ask them.

In india every day 7,000 children die due to non availabilty of food where Sharad pawar says rottening of thousands of tonnes of food grains is not a crime and our beloved Prime Minister says Supreme court not to interfere as the matter pertains to Policy making. What policy mr. PM for the last 63 years Poor are remaining poor and now they reached a stage of genocide and rich are enriched and this is the right policy.

In karnataka 280 beggars died in month in governmnet beggars colony , no investigation because poor dont have right to live, its right they should die donating there kidneys and eyes. ( scandel).

You Know The Union Governmnet has marked Three lakh acres of forest land in 2010 for mining freshly . that is almost six times bigger than the capital Delhi Knowingly the scandel of mining. Future generation will have only desert to see and they can virtual tour of forest in internet.

best of luck future generation.

We are very very selfish that we cant sphere any thing for your future .

 

Bachalo his India ko -poori tara barbad hone se pehele

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Dwarakanath <dwarakanathdm@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr Jagdeesh kumar, has come out with detailed percentage of kick backs to BBMP.     He has an option to disclose these information to Lok Ayuktha, and they will take further action to clean the system to the extent possible. Regards, dwarakanathdm

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 1:15 PM, K N Jagadesh kumar <jkgroup999@gmail.com> wrote:

To shashi kumar

From K n jagdesh kumar

I  saw your comment on pathholes, for the last 7 years i am a bbmp contractor. you are correct 45% of the bill amount goes as kick backs. i can give you description also:

Ward engineer: 5%

Assistant Exexutive Engineer: 4%

Executive Engineer- 5%.

Supertendent Engineer-3%

Chief Engineer -2%

For getting the tender alloted  -5%

Third Party inspection -2%

Lab Certification-3%

Accounts: from P1 to Chief accounts-11%

Head office: 5%

 

at the end of 2 years a contractor receive the bill. 

if You are very very very lucky 6% you have to pay canara bank for Hundi to discount your bill.

i say a BBMP contractor gets his bill after 2 years paying this 45% kick backs.

A contractor invest -receives after 2 years.

An BBMP official doesn't invest anything  but he takes kick back instantly.

So just imagine what quality you can expect on roads

bachoa amara india ko from this corrupt officials & Rog Politicians.

thank you

K N Jagadesh kumar

09845500932

RTI activist/LL.B

  

 

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:48 PM, SHASHI KUMAR.A.R. <rudreshtechnology@gmail.com> wrote:

In india what ever the certificates issued by the certificates like ISO , BSI and other quality certificates issued by labs are taking money , some times the goods without any certification may having good qulality and life , For example we are staying in silcon city , But none of the roads of bangalore are without humps , bumps , pot holes , 365 days digging by various agencies like water ,sanitary , electricity 

telephone , internet , optical fibre etc , one of the citizen asked the bangalore nagarapalike regarding number of pot holes and size , our engineers are very clever they counted and given the information 

the amount spent is only 30% of the estimate remaining is paid interms of kickbacks by contractors this is the fate of great bangalore , they who will insure the roads , but the persons using roads must 

be compulsorly insured 

ARS KUMAR. BE LLB MA JOURNALISM 

RTI Activist 

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Dr.M.C SINDHUR <drmcsindhur@gmail.com> wrote:

Respected all sirs/Madam,

 

Thanks all for kind valuable reply and guidance . I am resident of Hubli in Karnataka the fact is Our city Corporation has got ISO certification since last 3 years ceertificate was purchased in 2006 by Paying Rs.5.90,000/- for three years and Rs .1,42,500/- presnt 3 years The ISO certification has no roll in administration / powers for providing better civic facilities nor any thing good happening for city.The Civic body only  murmers about ISO and says we are ISO certified and our services are good.But in reality ISO certificates are useless piece of papers purchased for money by government offices by tax payers money .The Karnataka government has no gazette for obtaing ISO certificates for civic bodies. There is no law in force by state government  but show is going on for buying ISO certificates. The foriegn company opens offices in metro /major cities and offers service of issueing ISO certificates with veriying rates from lacs to crores being exchanged from public exchequer.ISO certificates are issued for money and they are not under the ambit of law in karanataka. The FERA regulations must be checked enforced to check the illigal transaction from international companies operating in India under these fictious names for dodging the government agencies for money.

 

Dr.M.C.Sindhur

Hubli

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:14 AM, sandeep kumar <drsandgupta@gmail.com> wrote:

Please send rti to MInistry of consumer affairs. in it also write a
note that I do not exactly know who is to be sent this rti application
and transfer it under 6(3) if it does not concern your office.

On 12/8/10, Dr.M.C SINDHUR <drmcsindhur@gmail.com> wrote:
> To,
> Dear members of Humjanenge group,
>
> SUB:    ISO Certificates issued from international agencies obtained by
> Government agencies /Bodies by paying tax payers money.
>
> Respected Sir,
>
> I would like know and seek help of experts in using RTI .
>
> How to know and extract information under RTI for legal piont of view that
> The  Government  /State / central Organisations / Bodies seeking ISO
> CERTIFICATES from international agencies .The Government agencies are
> spending  tax payers money to buy /Purchasing for huge sums such
> certificates ? Is there any regulation for obtaining ISO certificates from
> International agecies.
>
> whether ISO certifying agencies are recognised by Union Government of India
> / States under the Law.?
>
> What are the propcedures to be followed under Law of Authority and rules
> /regulations/ guidelines framed by Government Of India /State Governments
>  under the
> contitutional amendments made to Laws /Acts/Notifications/Ordinance to get
> Clearances to certify  of government agecies /Bodies by Interantional
> accredition /auditing agencies./Gazette Notification/ Amendments /Cabinet
> approavals/ Approval from Lokasabha / Rajyasabha through Bills and competant
> authorities of Finance Department for allowing payment being made to such
> international agencies? Service tax norms for the services offered under
> such certificates
>
> What are the stauotory /Contitutional requirements mandetory for obtaing ISO
> certifictes from international agencies in india for Central / State
> Government agencies?
>
> If not under the Law Of Authority  prescribed by Indain /State Government
> Laws /Acts In force Law  can they be called illigal?
>
>
> Regards
>
> Thanking you
>
> Your's Faithfully
>
> Dr.M.C.Sindhur
> VIDYANAGAR
> Hubli-21
>

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K N Jagadesh Kumar
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jkgroup999@gmail.com

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K N Jagadesh Kumar
9845500932
jkgroup999@gmail.com