Saturday, September 24, 2016

[IAC#RG] Narendra Modi is the corrupt mouse that roars !!

After viewing Modi's speech to his party cadres, I was reminded of the 1960's satirical movie 'The Mouse that Roared' (Peter Sellers) about a 2 bit impoverished nation which declares war on the United States hoping to lose and get foreign aid. [trailer], and I am not referring to Pakistan :-)

Frankly, Modi at Kozikhode looked like an 80-Year-old Amitabh Bachhan trying to reprise his Zanjeer days. Those same tired recycled Salim Javed dialogues interspersed with twits from Hindustan ki Kasam and Haqeeqat have fooled nobody outside the BJP, and least of all IAC, no matter how Modi's paid news channels hail his 'strategic restraint'.

Simply put, strategic restraint means that previous BJP disasters like Operation Parakram cannot be repeated, and Modi has wisely avoided that trap due to his compulsions, However, the world knows, even if irresponsible BJP cadres don't, that India's capacity to fight has been severely eroded under successive Congi and NDA govts. Our ordnances, armouries and reserves are severely depleted and troops and police exhausted by side duties and poor inputs.

As I write, frantic calls are being made from MoD offices to all the arms dealers everywhere essentially saying 'Tell us what you have available for delivery right now'. This is a golden opportunity for the world to dump all their expired stocks on us at any price they demand. The nation is being looted through this war hysteria fabricated by Doval and his rogue network - which unfortunately contains many misguided retired forces chiefs and other Großer Generalstab (traitors) in it.

For instance, why the great hurry for signing this 36 plane Rafael deal, a roundly criticised classic case of too little too late for the IAF, at this time ? Why is India buying these planes at 4 times the cost they are sold to the French Airforce ? Normally in the arms business it is common to export at below price to outsiders to keep domestic production going. This clearly shows that there are still kickbacks of at least 500% in this deal.

Mark our words Mr. Modi : This BJP Govt is shaping up to be even more corrupt than the Congress was, and all the fake jingoism and manufactured Bharat Mata ki Jai crap to your BJP cadres, and hiding behind national secrecy, is not going to stop our saying so.

PS: Everyday Doval remains is reaffirmation that Modi & Co. are corrupt.

Sarbajit

Friday, September 23, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] A few sane voices which BJP Govt should listen to after Uri.

this  is a failure on our part
we have  failed  in Dras attack
now again  corrupt intelligence 
shoulder the responsibility
and should be shown the  door
of NORTH BLOCK

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Re: [IAC#RG] A few sane voices which BJP Govt should listen to after Uri.

Yes!!!

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On 23-Sep-2016, at 08:50, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Re: [IAC#RG] Heads must roll for Uri

पापा ! आप बहुत याद आते हैं
…………………………………

सीमा पर बने रक्षक परकोटो में,
जंग में लगते गहरे चोटो में,
सैनिक की वर्दी के फोटो में,
हर वक्त आप मुस्काते हैं।
पापा !
आप बहुत याद आते हैं। 2 ।

देश की सीमा पर रहे डटे,
गोली लगी या शर कटे,
मरते दम तक नहीं हटे,
मर कर भी जीत दिलाते हैं।
पापा !
आप बहुत याद आते हैं। 2 ।

पर देश की छाती पर बैठे,
नेता और नौकरशाह ऐठे,
देश को लूट रहे इक्कठे,
व्यर्थ में गाल बजाते हैं।
पापा !
आप बहुत याद आते हैं। 2 ।

मम्मी की आँखों में नमी,
दादा की आँखें देख सूनी,
पूरे परिवार में छाई गमी,
फिर भी आप नहीं आते हैं।
पापा !
आप बहुत याद आते हैं। 2 ।

नन्हीं हाथों से दी अग्नि,
अब तो यादें ही संगनी,
दीदी की होने वाली मंगनी,
सपनों में सपने सजाते हैं।
पापा !
आप बहुत याद आते हैं। 2 ।

(इस कविता को लिखते वक्त मेरी खुद की आँखें भर आई … शहीदों को एक बार फिर
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जय हिन्द !
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Thursday, September 22, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] A few sane voices which BJP Govt should listen to after Uri.

No use telling them. They believe that a racist US that sabotages countries by propping up extremists does it only in Muslim countries and for some reason, the American racists love Hindus. Non-white friends and foes of US meet the same fate - only methods different - rise of extremism, economic colonization. US is playing India like a fiddle and our political leadership is so engrossed in political rivalries, they are absolutely blind to geo-strategic moves. For that matter, why US, we are fools for any white skinned country, it seems. Witness the Rafale deal, signing of nuclear power plant with Areva within 24 hours of French Nuclear safety agency releasing details on serious flaw in their reactor. Many many such examples. FDI is another chutiyapa. First it was globalization, now FDI. New rabbit, same hat. Bailout floundering first world economies by buying their rejects, opening our markets for them to mint money on the lure of initial flow of incoming investment.

It is madness and no one seems to be thinking things through at all.

[IAC#RG] A few sane voices which BJP Govt should listen to after Uri.

Re: [IAC#RG] COMPLAINT: Corruption of Shri K.K.Sharma (Chief Secy/GNCTD) in matter of DMRC fare fixation

DELHI DIALOGUE COMMISSION     (www.delhidialoguecommission.in)

an initiative of  "India Against Corruption"

 

To:

Shri Arvind Kejriwal,

Chief Minister of NCT Delhi


cc: OSD to Hon'ble LG of Delhi (for information)


BY EMAIL

Dear Chief Minister,

 

Sub: COMPLAINT: Corruption of Shri K.K.Sharma (Chief Secy/GNCTD) in matter of DMRC fare fixation


It is strange that you are not acting speedily on this matter to defend and protect your corrupt Chief Secretary Shri K.K. Sharma, who is notorious and was named in Shunglu Committee report of 2011.


I am requesting you to kindly confirm the entire circumstances in which, as per media reports, Shri K K Sharma had recommended that DMRC (Delhi Metro Rail Corporation) fares be increased by 70% without holding any public hearing in this matter.


It is very strange that when even the Ambani's Meto Rail projects had their fares fixed by statutory Fare Fixation Committees after holding public consulations spanning many days, your Government (by it Chief Secretary) is operating in this secretive way and has denied me the opportunity to appear before the Committee despite my asking for a hearing and be given an opportunity to inpect and oppose the DMRC's secretive proposal to hike fares.


For your information, the Fare Fixation Committee for Ambani's Mumbai Metro Rail held public hearings on 10th June 2015 and 11 June 2015.


I am therefore calling upon you to seek a written explanation from your Chief Secretary and reply to me IMMEDIATELY why no similar public hearing was held in case of fare fixation of Delhi Metro and fares are to be hiked by 70%.


I need hardly remind you that Delhi Govt. is a 50% JV partner in DMRC and
has equal say in its operations. I would thus hope that Delhi Govt. does not implement these outrageously corrupt  fare hikes and that Aam Aadmi Party volunteers shall take to the streets if they are implemented through the LG after bypassing you.



Sarbajit Roy
National Convenor
for Delhi Dialogue Commission
(an initiative of "India Against Corruption")

B-59 Defence Colony,
New Delhi 110024
M: +91-8010205897



On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

DELHI DIALOGUE COMMISSION     (www.delhidialoguecommission.in)

an initiative of  "India Against Corruption"

 

To:

Shri Arvind Kejriwal,

Chief Minister of NCT Delhi


cc: OSD to Hon'ble LG of Delhi (for information)


BY EMAIL

Dear Chief Minister,

 

Sub: COMPLAINT: Corruption of Shri K.K.Sharma (Chief Secy/GNCTD) in matter of DMRC fare fixation


We refer to our previous email dated Jun 27 2016 (appended inline), and our public cautions and complaints contained therein against GNCTD Chief Secretary Shri K.K. (Kewal Kumar) Sharma in the matter of fare fixation of Delhi Metro Rail Corpn. (DMRC). It is relevant to remind you that strangely Shri K.K.Sharma (a blue eyed boy of Smt. Shiela Dikshit) was also your hand-picked choice for Chief Secretary of Delhi in 2015 despite being indicted by Shunglu Committee for CommonWelth Games scams when he was Principal Secy in Delhi Govt.

We are therefore constrained to inform you that after our complaint the DMRC had arranged / financed a 6 day international vacation (cloaked as "study tour")  for Shri K.K. Sharma to the fleshpots of the Far East like Hong Kong, Taipei and Singapore for the specific purpose of corrupting and compromising the senior-most Delhi Govt. officer Shri K.K.Sharma.

As a result of your Chief Secretary's corruption by DMRC a HUGE increase in Delhi Metro Rail fares has been recommended by Shri K.K.Sharma on 8 Sept. 2016 . It is very strange and note-worthy that the 3 member fare fixation committee of which Shri K.K.Sharma is a member did not even conduct any public hearing before issuing its recommendations to raise the fares of Delhi Metro (unlike as was done in Mumbai last year for Ambani's metro rail there).

It is relevant to mention that the previous Fare fixation Committee of 2009 (on which the GNCTD was similarly represented) had allowed the Ambani owned/controlled DAEMPL to operate at fares of Rs. 200  till Sept. 2015 whereas the present fare is Rs. 54, ie a 300% SCAM.

The India Against Corruption people's movement therefore immediately seeks to know the position of the AAM AADMI SARKAR on increase on DMRC fares and what directions were given to your Chief Secretary for REDUCING the DMRC fares.

Sarbajit Roy
National Convenor
for Delhi Dialogue Commission
(an initiative of "India Against Corruption")

B-59 Defence Colony,
New Delhi 110024
M: +91-8010205897


On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:29 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

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To:

Shri Arvind Kejriwal,

Chief Minister of NCT Delhi

"deltrpt@gmail.com"

BY EMAIL

Dear Chief Minister,

 

Please find attached an email trail between myself and Indian Institute of Architects (with attachments) concerning Mr. Satyendar Jain (now Transport Minister/GNCTD)

I am gratified to observe that Mr. Satyendar Kr. Jain seems to be capable of swift action if requred. I therefore hope that the both of you will take prompt action on the following 3 urgent issues concerning the Transport Dept/GNCTD

1) Immediately shift Millenium Bus Depot from Yamuna Bank, close it and return the land to the river. Please do so without wasting time at behest of various touts and vested interests concerning this emotive issue.

2) Personally oversee that GNCTD's representative on DMRC's 4th fare fixation committee (Mr. K.K. Sharma/CS-Delhi) ensures that DMRC fares are reduced by at least 1/3rd in the same way as was done in case of Airport Express Line. I must convey that I doubt that Mr. Sharma is seriously interested in safeguarding the interests of voters of Delhi against DMRC fare hikes. Infact all the information reaching me is that Mr. Sharma has been "fixed" to ensure a huge (and unwarranted) hike in DMRC fares. Already there are murmurs that the Aam Aadmi Party (which hiked salaries of its MLAs by 4 times immediately on coming to power) is least caring if DMRC fares are "merely doubled".

I am sure that you are very well aware of the open loot which Central Govt (Ministry of Urban Development) is doing in DMRC for decades. For instance I was in a DMRC Blue Line train today, stranded between Rajiv Chowk and Dwarka, for over 3 hours only because of the sheer corruption in DMRC where sub-standard parts, poor safety and shoddy construction are the norm. Since you mostly have mediocre people in your Govt. I doubt if you/GNCTD can project such issues in DMRC (in which Delhi is 50% JV partner but where the shots are called by MoUD/BJP) to safeguard Delhi's interests in DMRC. I recall that Mr.K.K. Sharma was in the Ministry of Urban Development between 1991-1996 so  also I doubt if he can be objective or neutral when it comes to filling MoUD's coffers.

http://www.ndtv.com/delhi-news/delhi-metro-services-on-blue-line-disrupted-due-to-snag-1424039

It is very strange that DMRC's proposal for a 230% fare hike is not in public domain, that GNCTD has not shared it (say on Twitter) and that you / AAP cadres are silent on DMRC fare hike.

3) Ensure that the Enforcement staff of Transport Dept take very strong action against transport vehicles, especially private buses, grameen sewa and e-rickshaws etc. which drive, park and obstruct in No-Entry roads or notified bus lanes. I again remind you that Delhi Traffic Police is unable to prosecute such offenders only because a) GNCTD's PWD is strangely avoiding putting permanent mandatory traffic signs on the notified "no-entry" road and streets, b) Your local MLAs and Councillors are giving "protection" to these habitual offenders.

sincerely

Sarbajit Roy
National Convenor
for Delhi Dialogue Commission
(an initiative of "India Against Corruption")

B-59 Defence Colony,
New Delhi 110024
M: +91-8010205897

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From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: Verification of your student/examinee
To: "IIA Voice of Indian Architects." <iiapublication@gmail.com>, indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>


To:
Shri N.S. Keshkamat
The Indian Institute of Architects.
By EMAIL

Sir,

Many thanks for your email of today below concerning architectural qualification of your associate member Shri Satyendar Kr. Jain no. A-08990. Please find my response below:

1) That the IIA evaded replying to my email dt. 11.May.2016 on this question until I circulated the issue of qualification of Mr. Jain to Chief Minister of Delhi and also membership of India Against Corruption vide my email dated 20 June 2016.
 
2) That a letter from CoA to IIA dated 27.April 2016 CA/5/Academic-IIA (PDF copy attached) implies that only Associate Members of IIA who passed AMIIA exams after 2002 are eligible to register as architects with CoA. Mr. Jain (as per his diverse electoral affidavits) apprently passed your AMIIA exams in either 1991 or 1992 (date unclear)

3) That only architects registered with CoA are allowed to practice architecture. Between 1 Jan 2014 and 20 June 2016 Mr.Jain was shown as a "defaulter" on rolls of CoA. The current status is that he has thereafter very recently somehow regularised his enrollment with CoA, quite obviously subsequent to my complaint to Mr. Arvind Kejriwal (CM Delhi) dt. 20.June.2016.  I carefully note that IIA has only replied to me (describing Mr. Jain as "Ar.") after Mr. Jain re-entered the CoA rolls.
NB
: Screenshots from CoA website dt. 20-June-2016 and 27-June-2016 are attached for your reference.

4) Given this background, I specifically seek to know from IIA the variations in associate membership status, if any, and exact dates of passing AMIIA exams for Mr. Satyendar Kr. Jain. Also, if Mr. Jain has ever been irregular or a defaulter (as he was with CoA) in his associate membership of IIA, the citizens/voters of Delhi are entitled to know each and every thing about it.

I hope that you will reply to me very promptly and truthfully and without evasion since the equivalence of the AMIIA examination with those of, say, the regular B.Arch courses is subject to certain conditions as you well know.

sincerely

Sarbajit Roy
National Convenor
India Against Corruption, jan andolan
B-59 Defence Colony,
New Delhi 110024
M: +91-8010205897


On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 2:27 AM, IIA Voice of Indian Architects. <iiapublication@gmail.com> wrote:
We write with reference to your email on the above mentioned subject.  In this regard, we would like to inform you that as per our record Ar. Satyendar Kumar Jain 
 is our Valid  Associate Member bearing membership no. A-08990.

Regards

N S Keshkamat

--
The Indian Institute of Architects.
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Dr. D. N. Road, Fort, Mumbai - 400 001.
Tel Nos :  91 - 22 -  22046972/22818491/22884805.
Fax No. 91 - 22 22832516
Email : iiapublication@gmail.com
website : indianinstituteofarchitects.com




Wednesday, September 21, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] Heads must roll for Uri

Dear Col. Joshi

May I humbly submit that the most privileged class of the country is an inter-twined web of netas, judges/super-lawyers, assorted business interests - all busy intermarrying their baba/baby 'log' and protecting their (usually) old money assets. The bureaucrats are just super smart exam clearing blokes willing to do anything for their next 3 generations to live off.

Secondly, nobody cares about technicalities and terrain. The forces are just pawns in some great geo-political strategic game played for amusement between globally intertwined privileged classes.

Thirdly, do you think it was coincidence that some bal Sadhvi Saraswati's song goes "viral" through some random CrPF happening to sing it soon after Uri. Those who know how the game is played have very jaundiced eyes.

Follow the money. Doval and son must go.

Sarbajit


On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 7:18 PM, arun joshi <colarun.joshi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen as an ESM and having run around like a mad dog chasing foreign and home grown abdullas (those days Govt forced us to call them "misguided brothers and sisters") I submit that there is no one to blame in this( URI)  other than the Army. Damage would have taken place in any case till surprise is lost, but it should not have been to this extent. 
Terrain dictated my Battalion HQ to be located in a bowl. It was vulnerable and  fired upon with rockets incendiaries etc (solar powered btys activated with the first ray of sun, so that my misguided brother did not have to be physically sitting there) at least three times during the tenure. We took precautions yet were not sure of its 100% efficacy. That is the hazard of asymmetric war .The most vulnerable time used to be when our convoy would come with rations, stores , eqpt and leave reliefs- the former as Advance winter stocking and daily maint. Utter chaos. By Gods Grace there was no loss of life. They tried to damage our Mandir & Gurudwara but failed. Guess he must not have got a slot in heaven.Yes they did cause damage to my stores or clothing but not to the extent of affecting "the business continuity plan" as a Management Guru will put it. As a Combat soldier I say it did not affect my "combat efficiency". I had dug my ammunition point and FOL (fuel oil & lubricant ) dump fairly deep into the Mother Earth.(standard army procedure )  His Rockets ,steel jacketed projectiles, incendiaries,  simply could not cause damage, as  at URI. We were deployed for three years and three months . Hence I submit to one and all, do not blame Doval , the CCS ,Shri Modi , Parrikar or Rajnath Singh. They have done their job by very clearly articulating what the Security Forces have to do and upto what limit they can go(we did not have that privilege, for Mufti himself was the Home Minister , George the Giant killer was all at sea- Jagmohan had just been withdrawn and most of the things were thrown on the shoulders of General Zaki my Corps Commander- I  consider him the saviour of the Valley and place him at par with Sardar Patel who ordered 1 SIKH to be airlifted to Srinagar in 1947))
I often speak to my friends who inform me of the absence of micromanaging by a bureaucrat. Bureaucrats I guess have been told to lay off and concentrate on what best they do "create chaos" (bad administration leads to Naxalism etc- served in such areas and have personal experience with the cream of the Nation and the most privileged class of the country- The Bureaucrat).
This is my perspective for whatever worth.

Col Arun Joshi(Retired)
The INFANTEER
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USE BIODEGRADABLE PACKING MATERIAL


On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 7:42 PM, R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:

Sarabjit ji,
You see too clear..

These Politicians esp Nehru likes hve made J&K wat it is today.Hurtful.
Maybe Indian Army shd take over J&K for 10years..
Actually these terrorist must be in the state and Indian Army knowing abt dis..decided to strike them.
Regards.


On 20 Sep 2016 18:41, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
WAG the DOG : Too convenient to be true. Almost as though the Pakis have sent over 10 civilian bali ke bakre.

It's high time that Doval and his gang of 2 faced double dealing collaborators (Vaidik etc) are sacked, that the Army takes over entire Jammu and Kashmir to sort out without political interference accompanied by all Barkha Dutt clone journalists.and foreign financed human right pimps being escorted out in handcuffs and leg chains.

Sarbajit


On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Vijay Shivdasani <suchshon@gmail.com> wrote:
Pls stop being ridiculous. The response when it happens has to be calculated to cause Pakistan much hurt so that they think twice next time before sending terrorist over the LOC. The action has to be professionally executed.
Policemen cannot evacuate a bunch of hawkers neither does Doval have the vision although of course he is NSA, and a top policeman.
Experience cool innovative thinking  is required. Also the media has to come in later so as not to compromise surprise action as they did in Mumbai!
A concerted effort is needed.

Vijay Shivdasani

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Modi is great , India is stronger than ever. You must learn to appreciate.

On Sep 19, 2016 1:39 AM, RS PATIAL <indiaresists@lists
Modi does not need defence forces. He has one man army of Dhavol who is ruling the roost. The pay of defence forces in 7th pay commission is lower than the police. So why should the defences forces lay down lives Let Dhavol fight and free POK and liberate Balochistan

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First Pathankot and now Uri .

  1. Was it a complete failure of intelligence coupled with procedural slipups ?
  2. Or, is Parrikar as incompetent / interfering as Kejriwal & Co ?
  3. And, is it time for serious and sober debate followed by calibrated response(s) ?
  4. Finally, should Doval be sacked and the foolishly jingoistic Doval doctrine scrapped ?
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Re: [IAC#RG] Heads must roll for Uri

We have faith on Modi jee & Rajnath Singh saheb,who have waited for appropriate time in near future,Let us unitedly support them beside caste,creed,or party line ..


On Sep 19, 2016 12:36 AM, "Ranjit Rai" <ranjitrai123@gmail.com> wrote:
PM Modi does nothing without strategy and we must support him and it is well known :-

When you talk tough with no strategy or action either in POK as all leaders are doing hoping UN will tell Pakistan to walk back or in Baluchistan where USA and Iran have to be on board and probably are though Iranians are not easy to deal with.

India does punch in money to two sided agents in areas of interest as all nations do but the threatened party recoils to test waters and it's taught in Staff Colleges abroad.Every politico-military statement must have political and military strategy to achieve the aim.

Appreciation and achievement of AIM is taught in all staff colleges and we must remain assured The Chiefs and Military brass    
Have the strategy and aim and public need not know.
RR
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First Pathankot and now Uri .

  1. Was it a complete failure of intelligence coupled with procedural slipups ?
  2. Or, is Parrikar as incompetent / interfering as Kejriwal & Co ?
  3. And, is it time for serious and sober debate followed by calibrated response(s) ?
  4. Finally, should Doval be sacked and the foolishly jingoistic Doval doctrine scrapped ?
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Re: [IAC#RG] Heads must roll for Uri

Ladies and Gentlemen as an ESM and having run around like a mad dog chasing foreign and home grown abdullas (those days Govt forced us to call them "misguided brothers and sisters") I submit that there is no one to blame in this( URI)  other than the Army. Damage would have taken place in any case till surprise is lost, but it should not have been to this extent. 
Terrain dictated my Battalion HQ to be located in a bowl. It was vulnerable and  fired upon with rockets incendiaries etc (solar powered btys activated with the first ray of sun, so that my misguided brother did not have to be physically sitting there) at least three times during the tenure. We took precautions yet were not sure of its 100% efficacy. That is the hazard of asymmetric war .The most vulnerable time used to be when our convoy would come with rations, stores , eqpt and leave reliefs- the former as Advance winter stocking and daily maint. Utter chaos. By Gods Grace there was no loss of life. They tried to damage our Mandir & Gurudwara but failed. Guess he must not have got a slot in heaven.Yes they did cause damage to my stores or clothing but not to the extent of affecting "the business continuity plan" as a Management Guru will put it. As a Combat soldier I say it did not affect my "combat efficiency". I had dug my ammunition point and FOL (fuel oil & lubricant ) dump fairly deep into the Mother Earth.(standard army procedure )  His Rockets ,steel jacketed projectiles, incendiaries,  simply could not cause damage, as  at URI. We were deployed for three years and three months . Hence I submit to one and all, do not blame Doval , the CCS ,Shri Modi , Parrikar or Rajnath Singh. They have done their job by very clearly articulating what the Security Forces have to do and upto what limit they can go(we did not have that privilege, for Mufti himself was the Home Minister , George the Giant killer was all at sea- Jagmohan had just been withdrawn and most of the things were thrown on the shoulders of General Zaki my Corps Commander- I  consider him the saviour of the Valley and place him at par with Sardar Patel who ordered 1 SIKH to be airlifted to Srinagar in 1947))
I often speak to my friends who inform me of the absence of micromanaging by a bureaucrat. Bureaucrats I guess have been told to lay off and concentrate on what best they do "create chaos" (bad administration leads to Naxalism etc- served in such areas and have personal experience with the cream of the Nation and the most privileged class of the country- The Bureaucrat).
This is my perspective for whatever worth.

Col Arun Joshi(Retired)
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On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 7:42 PM, R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:

Sarabjit ji,
You see too clear..

These Politicians esp Nehru likes hve made J&K wat it is today.Hurtful.
Maybe Indian Army shd take over J&K for 10years..
Actually these terrorist must be in the state and Indian Army knowing abt dis..decided to strike them.
Regards.


On 20 Sep 2016 18:41, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
WAG the DOG : Too convenient to be true. Almost as though the Pakis have sent over 10 civilian bali ke bakre.

It's high time that Doval and his gang of 2 faced double dealing collaborators (Vaidik etc) are sacked, that the Army takes over entire Jammu and Kashmir to sort out without political interference accompanied by all Barkha Dutt clone journalists.and foreign financed human right pimps being escorted out in handcuffs and leg chains.

Sarbajit


On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Vijay Shivdasani <suchshon@gmail.com> wrote:
Pls stop being ridiculous. The response when it happens has to be calculated to cause Pakistan much hurt so that they think twice next time before sending terrorist over the LOC. The action has to be professionally executed.
Policemen cannot evacuate a bunch of hawkers neither does Doval have the vision although of course he is NSA, and a top policeman.
Experience cool innovative thinking  is required. Also the media has to come in later so as not to compromise surprise action as they did in Mumbai!
A concerted effort is needed.

Vijay Shivdasani

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On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:01 PM, satyaprakash tiwari <profsprakash@hotmail.com> wrote:

Modi is great , India is stronger than ever. You must learn to appreciate.

On Sep 19, 2016 1:39 AM, RS PATIAL <indiaresists@lists
Modi does not need defence forces. He has one man army of Dhavol who is ruling the roost. The pay of defence forces in 7th pay commission is lower than the police. So why should the defences forces lay down lives Let Dhavol fight and free POK and liberate Balochistan

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On Sunday, September 18, 2016, 5:16 pm, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

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First Pathankot and now Uri .

  1. Was it a complete failure of intelligence coupled with procedural slipups ?
  2. Or, is Parrikar as incompetent / interfering as Kejriwal & Co ?
  3. And, is it time for serious and sober debate followed by calibrated response(s) ?
  4. Finally, should Doval be sacked and the foolishly jingoistic Doval doctrine scrapped ?
Sarbajit

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Re: [IAC#RG] Heads must roll for Uri

It is unfortunate to raise these issues at this point of time.

On 21 Sep 2016 14:59, Sn Datt <captsndatt@gmail.com> wrote:

Martyrs

Lot of discussion is going on Uri attack.
I request your team to obtain and publish information on compensations being paid to families and their rehabilitation.

What pension will they be paid. How much running around they will have to do in goverment offices.

What will the DEPARTMENT OF EX SERVICEMEN WELFARE DO  for them. As per their track record they will probably file an appeal against whatever is sanctioned .

As a nation our last priority are our armed forces. 7 PC is a case in point.

With our kind of bureaucracy no enemies are needed.

Capt sn datt
AIR India retd


On 21 Sep 2016 09:41, "Devinder Chopra" <ddchop47@gmail.com> wrote:
Friends All at Indiaresists//IAC,

IF all our efforts from the Indian side, in 70 years have made no difference, in fact, it appears, J&K has become a "NASUR" that keeps testing our ability to rule India, itself--a question arises, IS THE PROBLEM INSOLVABLE ?  

Or, is there some unknown strength of "religious fervour" that is out to test all the "heathens" from any other religious communities or States, and have its way, come what may ?

It would seem so, how ISIS today is out to tie up the most powerful nations on the run, regardless of the calamities they may be facing, right now, no ?    
IF an adage "TO CONVERT" and make all of the world Islamic...come what may, is there any answer or any solution viable ?  

In modern times, 70 years is not a short time to realize that the problem is beyond us, ALL, no ? 
One has never heard of, nor seen a solution put on-the-ground, ever by any Power or a fledgling nation where Islamic fringe elements are concerned.
Kindly, prove me wrong ....!

Sincerely thought and shared,

devinder das chopra -- aka dev chopra in gurgaon
*** 


On 20 September 2016 at 19:42, R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:

Sarabjit ji,
You see too clear..

These Politicians esp Nehru likes hve made J&K wat it is today.Hurtful.
Maybe Indian Army shd take over J&K for 10years..
Actually these terrorist must be in the state and Indian Army knowing abt dis..decided to strike them.
Regards.


On 20 Sep 2016 18:41, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
WAG the DOG : Too convenient to be true. Almost as though the Pakis have sent over 10 civilian bali ke bakre.

It's high time that Doval and his gang of 2 faced double dealing collaborators (Vaidik etc) are sacked, that the Army takes over entire Jammu and Kashmir to sort out without political interference accompanied by all Barkha Dutt clone journalists.and foreign financed human right pimps being escorted out in handcuffs and leg chains.

Sarbajit


On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Vijay Shivdasani <suchshon@gmail.com> wrote:
Pls stop being ridiculous. The response when it happens has to be calculated to cause Pakistan much hurt so that they think twice next time before sending terrorist over the LOC. The action has to be professionally executed.
Policemen cannot evacuate a bunch of hawkers neither does Doval have the vision although of course he is NSA, and a top policeman.
Experience cool innovative thinking  is required. Also the media has to come in later so as not to compromise surprise action as they did in Mumbai!
A concerted effort is needed.

Vijay Shivdasani

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On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:01 PM, satyaprakash tiwari <profsprakash@hotmail.com> wrote:

Modi is great , India is stronger than ever. You must learn to appreciate.

On Sep 19, 2016 1:39 AM, RS PATIAL <indiaresists@lists
Modi does not need defence forces. He has one man army of Dhavol who is ruling the roost. The pay of defence forces in 7th pay commission is lower than the police. So why should the defences forces lay down lives Let Dhavol fight and free POK and liberate Balochistan

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On Sunday, September 18, 2016, 5:16 pm, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

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First Pathankot and now Uri .

  1. Was it a complete failure of intelligence coupled with procedural slipups ?
  2. Or, is Parrikar as incompetent / interfering as Kejriwal & Co ?
  3. And, is it time for serious and sober debate followed by calibrated response(s) ?
  4. Finally, should Doval be sacked and the foolishly jingoistic Doval doctrine scrapped ?
Sarbajit

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Tuesday, September 20, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] Heads must roll for Uri

Martyrs

Lot of discussion is going on Uri attack.
I request your team to obtain and publish information on compensations being paid to families and their rehabilitation.

What pension will they be paid. How much running around they will have to do in goverment offices.

What will the DEPARTMENT OF EX SERVICEMEN WELFARE DO  for them. As per their track record they will probably file an appeal against whatever is sanctioned .

As a nation our last priority are our armed forces. 7 PC is a case in point.

With our kind of bureaucracy no enemies are needed.

Capt sn datt
AIR India retd


On 21 Sep 2016 09:41, "Devinder Chopra" <ddchop47@gmail.com> wrote:
Friends All at Indiaresists//IAC,

IF all our efforts from the Indian side, in 70 years have made no difference, in fact, it appears, J&K has become a "NASUR" that keeps testing our ability to rule India, itself--a question arises, IS THE PROBLEM INSOLVABLE ?  

Or, is there some unknown strength of "religious fervour" that is out to test all the "heathens" from any other religious communities or States, and have its way, come what may ?

It would seem so, how ISIS today is out to tie up the most powerful nations on the run, regardless of the calamities they may be facing, right now, no ?    
IF an adage "TO CONVERT" and make all of the world Islamic...come what may, is there any answer or any solution viable ?  

In modern times, 70 years is not a short time to realize that the problem is beyond us, ALL, no ? 
One has never heard of, nor seen a solution put on-the-ground, ever by any Power or a fledgling nation where Islamic fringe elements are concerned.
Kindly, prove me wrong ....!

Sincerely thought and shared,

devinder das chopra -- aka dev chopra in gurgaon
*** 


On 20 September 2016 at 19:42, R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:

Sarabjit ji,
You see too clear..

These Politicians esp Nehru likes hve made J&K wat it is today.Hurtful.
Maybe Indian Army shd take over J&K for 10years..
Actually these terrorist must be in the state and Indian Army knowing abt dis..decided to strike them.
Regards.


On 20 Sep 2016 18:41, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
WAG the DOG : Too convenient to be true. Almost as though the Pakis have sent over 10 civilian bali ke bakre.

It's high time that Doval and his gang of 2 faced double dealing collaborators (Vaidik etc) are sacked, that the Army takes over entire Jammu and Kashmir to sort out without political interference accompanied by all Barkha Dutt clone journalists.and foreign financed human right pimps being escorted out in handcuffs and leg chains.

Sarbajit


On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Vijay Shivdasani <suchshon@gmail.com> wrote:
Pls stop being ridiculous. The response when it happens has to be calculated to cause Pakistan much hurt so that they think twice next time before sending terrorist over the LOC. The action has to be professionally executed.
Policemen cannot evacuate a bunch of hawkers neither does Doval have the vision although of course he is NSA, and a top policeman.
Experience cool innovative thinking  is required. Also the media has to come in later so as not to compromise surprise action as they did in Mumbai!
A concerted effort is needed.

Vijay Shivdasani

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:01 PM, satyaprakash tiwari <profsprakash@hotmail.com> wrote:

Modi is great , India is stronger than ever. You must learn to appreciate.

On Sep 19, 2016 1:39 AM, RS PATIAL <indiaresists@lists
Modi does not need defence forces. He has one man army of Dhavol who is ruling the roost. The pay of defence forces in 7th pay commission is lower than the police. So why should the defences forces lay down lives Let Dhavol fight and free POK and liberate Balochistan

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On Sunday, September 18, 2016, 5:16 pm, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

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First Pathankot and now Uri .

  1. Was it a complete failure of intelligence coupled with procedural slipups ?
  2. Or, is Parrikar as incompetent / interfering as Kejriwal & Co ?
  3. And, is it time for serious and sober debate followed by calibrated response(s) ?
  4. Finally, should Doval be sacked and the foolishly jingoistic Doval doctrine scrapped ?
Sarbajit

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