Dear Mr Gaur
Not for 1 moment have I said I consider AAP as the "only savior" .. or
even 1 out of 1 billion saviors. However, sometimes it is required to
opt for the lesser devils - even if they are "A": team of Congress AND
"B" team of BJP.
Also, the LS results have made Arvind a wiser, and slightly humbler,
person. But you are right, he is now open to a coup within his party
engineered by his erstwhile backers. AAP desperately needs a "mature"
face to replace Arvind, otherwise Mayawati may take over AAP.
To explain this in context (since this is all about vote bank politics
and coded signals), The carefully placed prop photos of Bhagat Singh
which Arvind used in his interviews before LS may have got him enough
vote bank support in Punjab to win few seats there, but he will now
have to bite the bullet (and place Ambedkar's pics also .. and
publicly denounce Gandhi) if he wants wider support for Delhi. The
release of Arundhati Roy's new book may offer him the platform to do
so (before the BJP does) :-)
Sarbajit
On 8/2/14, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
> There has been no team and still no team inAAP.K will yield ground to MS.S.
> Roy seems to have a change of heart for APP. He now considers APP as the
> only saviour.APP was depending so heavily on Haryana. Now they have realised
> they have no rural backing,so decided not to contest.Their finances have
> dried up without having built up any organisational structure.BJP through
> Delhi budget have been liberal and promised to deliver what AAP promised to
> do for water,electricity,schools and othersJKGaur
>
Saturday, August 2, 2014
Re: [IAC#RG] Stop Meat Export, Ban Cow Slaughter & Make India Healthy
Shri Jasim Mohammed,
Kindly confirm the data given by you, as placed below:"Milk production is estimated to have declined marginally to 134.5 million tonnes in the last year though expected to be 140.6 million tonnes in the current year. Total Indian milk consumption is set to match with its production this year while domestic consumption is pegged at 425000 tonnes"
.
You said "The better will be to completely ban the meat particularly beef export. By that our children will get better quality milk"
If the figure of 0.425 million ton is the domestic consumption of milk and 140.6 million tons is the estimated export of the same, I do not see any reason why the children in India are not getting better quality milk. How does that interfere with meat export?
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Aikant Bhatti <dr3917@gmail.com> wrote:
I would differ on the opinion, about meat export and cow slaughter. I guess every one must have seen cows, on roads at times being killed or maimed by the vehicular traffic. We can also find cattle eating rubbish at the garbage dumps, to simplify "no one" cares but every one wants the profit through milk or meat.
Cow has been referred to be holy animal and has religious sentiments attached to it.
If we look at times when settlers we settling along the indus river and civilization was expanding animals were being domesticated cows, goats, ox, sheeps and horses for the purpose of agriculture and as a source of proteins.Meat was used since vedic times for sacrifices and it included goats, sheeps, cows, bulls and horses. Yagas with animal sacrifices were being performed and the slaughtered animal was regarded as holy food, which was distributed and cooked. The meat was integral part of the culture since the beginning of the civilisation.
However the concern is " Not" to eat beef or not to eat beef. The concern is to why not rest the poor animal who in any case will be end being hit by a vehicle or eating rubbish.
I strongly feel that ancient religious practice's need to be validated with scientific findings and sound reasoning.On 1 Aug 2014 11:03, "Dharmendra Kumar Dewan" <dsmcho@gmail.com> wrote:i am in agreement with the unbiased, scientific & nationalistic views expressed by the writer Mr Jasmin Mohammed....this is how we as indians should think & act ...--
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Jasim Mohammad <jasimmd@gmail.com> wrote:" Stop Meat Export , Ban Cow Slaughter & Make India Healthy"
* Jasim Mohammad Since ancient times , animals particularly cow and buffaloes have special place n our civilisation. Perhaps India is the only country where certain animals including cow are being worshipped and regarded as holy. Hindu religious texts are full of their glory. Just before independence Indian cultivation was heavily depended on cow dung fertilizers. Tilting of land was under taken by buffalo pushing. In short our whole socio - cultural set up was depended upon them.
But with changing times and the industrial revolution and market economy changes in the pattern of cultivation and our attitude towards the animals drastically changed. In the begining it was presumed that the change priorities will help the nation to be more strong economically but with he passage of time it is being analysed that un-checked export of meat and meat based products apart of abandoning cow dung fertilizer have resulted in weakening us economically and on health grounds. Chemical fertilizers are harming not only our health but also minimising the fertility of the land we cultivate.
The biggest challenge to our socio - cultural mind set and requirement have came from meat export in our zeal to earn more and more foreign exchange. No doubt the country needs and badly needs the foreign exchange but at the same time we must be careful for our own needs. The disbalances which we have created are resulting in the downfall of not our health but future of our next generation.
India, a country where eating meat particularly beef is a sensitive religious issue , has become the biggest meat exporter in the world beating the Brazil. Data of ministry of Food Processing shows that India exported 1.89 million tonnes of beef ( larger part in buffalo meat ) in 2012 - 2013 which was 50% increase over last five years.
As far as earnings from meat export are concerned , it touched to 21,000 crore in 2012 - 2013. India has major markets in USA,Europe, Gulf and South Asian countries.
Even the US Department of Agriculture ( USdA ) has acknowledged that the Indian government has played a vital role in enhancing meat and meat products exports. Uttar Pradesh is the biggest producer of export oriented meat while Kerala is the biggest consumer domestically. Cow slaughter is banned all over the country except Kerala, West Bengal and the North Eastern states.
In general meat and particularly beef has become an important foreign exchange earner in India among the agriculture based commodity after Basmati rice with 31% increase in quantity and 52 % rise in value terms during 2013 - 2014.According to figures of Agriculture & Processed Food Products Export Development Authority ( APEDA ) the beef export totaled 1449759 tonnes worth of Rs. 26458 crore lat year. The figure are really surprising for a country where meat particularly beef eating is supposed to be a taboo and has religious implications.
>The zeal on the part of individual meat business men and the government to earn the foreign exchange has resulted in depriving domestic consumers for healthy meat and milk for the next generation on whom our whole survival depends. Apart of that the cow dung fertilizer has become a rare thing and our cultivation and agricultural activites especially vegitable cultivation are highly suffering. The farmers are using chemical fertilizers which is resulting in either over fertilising or less due to illiteracy and on being ignorant scientifically. Milk is the essential commodity for healthy development of our children. But it is in short supply and out of reach of large section of Indian citizenary and the result is that we have an under nourished childhood and are consiquently producing weak and unhealthy citizen. That is not good for the nation as a whole.
>As far as milk is concerned , it is livestock enterprise in which small farmers can successfully engage in order to improve their livlihood. Regular milk supplies allow them to move from subsistence to a market based income.
>Milk production is estimated to have declined marginally to 134.5 million tonnes in the last year though expected to be 140.6 million tonnes in the current year. Total Indian milk consumption is set to match with its production this year while domestic consumption is pegged at 425000 tonnes.
>Cow dung or manure as fertilizer is very good for cultivation. when composed it has nutrient rich elements. It is also used as fuel which is environment friendly. The government should encourage masses to use cow dung as fuel as far as they can because it will save the gas for future and is economicall viable.
>In general meat eating and particularly beef eating is not part of our culture and is treated as taboo. It hurts religious feelings of largest religious group in India. In some cases this beef and meat has become tool of communal disharmony and flare up. Every nation needs peace and social harmony for its development and that is not possible till we balance our needs with the feelings of other social and religious groups.
>Hence meat export should be contained at minimum level. The better will be to completely ban the meat particularly beef export. By that our children will get better quality milk and the farmers will have rich dung fertilizer at no extra cost which will economically boost the farming in the country and will enhance agriculture income.
>Some people and lobbies take shelter under misguided plea that exports are essential for growth of country. That is right but if impartially calculated one will find that the loss from stopping meat export will be less than the increase in the export of milk and milk products. This is a crucial year in which our milk production will be just near to domestic demands.This is the year in which we have to take a positive decision in the interest of future of our children, communal harmony and national income growth and completely ban meat especially beef export.
>If the present central government has political will and courage , it should take the revolutionary decision and jump out of the net spread by some individuals and foreign countries in favour of meat export and ban it. the history will not only record the gains socially as well as economically of Modi government but will also realise dream of largest religious section of Indian masses.
* Jasim Mohammad is Director, Muslim Chamber of Commerce & Industry, Aligarh . He can be reached at jasimoffice@gmail.com
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Re: [IAC#RG] MINISTERS GO SCOT FREE IN KUMBAKONAM (TAMIL NADU ) FIRE MISHAP JUDGEMENT
Dear Mr. N. S. Venlataraman :
Rising up to speak for deprived sctions of our society who otherwise are not heard is a divinely inspired Act for which I send you and " Nandini Voice for the Deprived " my heartfelt thanks and due appreciations.
By no any standards one can justify the kapse that results in irrepairable loss of life and safety of innocent but hapless people !
Please Keep up the god work !
Sincerer Regards
Ashok Sharma
On 2 August 2014 18:26, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
ToIndia Against CorruptionMINISTERS GO SCOT FREE IN KUMBAKONAM (TAMIL NADU ) FIRE MISHAP JUDGEMENT
After more than fifteen years, when 94 innocent children were burnt down in a fire accident in Kumbakonam school in Tamil Nadu, judgement has come punishing the members of school management, workers in the school and a few lower level officials. Now, the question is as to why the top bureaucrats in charge of the education department and the education minister have been left scot free, as if they have no responsibility for the ghastly fire accident..
In all cases of accidents and mishaps in the country, whether it is railway or mines or other disaster, where many innocent lives have been lost, the ministers and top bureaucrats are never made accountable. Only the officials at the lower level are punished.
The judgement in the Kumbakonam fire mishap says that the management of the school have been careless and violated rules and local officials have not enforced the rules. Obviously, the officials must have been bribed.
The lack of vigilance and non enforcement of rules by the local officials is a direct reflection on the quality of the administration provided by the top bureaucrats and ministers. If they were to be efficient and committed , the chain of command upto the lower level of the government machinery would be vigilant. It is surprising that the judges have not thought it necessary to punish the then education minister and the then officials for this very unfortunate and ghastly fire accident burning away innocent lives. They have not even been severely reprimanded.
N.S.Venkataraman
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Re: [IAC#RG] Stop Meat Export, Ban Cow Slaughter & Make IndiaHealthy
What will you do with your old, sick and unproductive parents, who have nursed you all along despite severest odds? Hope, you had the quickest answer in it.
D.S.Ranga Rao
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On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:16 PM, M.N.Seshadri <manavasi.seshadri@gmail.com> wrote:
Just tell me what you will dowith cows when they are no longer productive. Who will look after the really old and sick cows/bulls and buffalos. ? kindly let me have your answer quickly.
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Re: [IAC#RG] Kejriwal's dilema
At the very least, AAP has made a great contribution to India by showing that elections can be fought and won without black money and goondas.
And let us not forget that the party is less than 2 years old, has won 4 Lok Sabha seats, something it took Congress and BJP to achieve after decades! Let us also recount that AAP came second in all 7 Delhi seats, and increased its vote share from 29 to 34%.
In my opinion the BJP is better than Congress, but well short of the mark. It is also acting like Congress: it seems to think (like Manmohan Singh) that a country runs by monetary and fiscal policies. Almost three months have gone by but there is nothing much to show by way of judicial, administrative, electoral, police reforms. There is nothing to show to stop the hemorrhage from the free-loading (free water, free electricity, free house, free car, free chauffeur, free telephone, free travel, free everything) amounting to at least 50,000 crores by the political-babu classes. These are the low-hanging fruits that can be fixed within days to anyone with a genuine 40" chest, and to do this the likes of Mr. Arun Shourie, Mr. Prabhu, Mr. Subramanian types were required.
Victor
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Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Kejriwal's dilema
There has been no team and still no team inAAP.K will yield ground to MS.S. Roy seems to have a change of heart for APP. He now considers APP as the only saviour.APP was depending so heavily on Haryana. Now they have realised they have no rural backing,so decided not to contest.Their finances have dried up without having built up any organisational structure.BJP through Delhi budget have been liberal and promised to deliver what AAP promised to do for water,electricity,schools and othersJKGaurDate: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:18:32 -0400
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Kejriwal's dilemaGoodmornong mr. Roy
I agree with you, that AAP needs to go through a make over. When AAP was in the making stage, I had questioned them via FB, were they equipped for governance?and they had taken offence to it. in politics, you have to be thick skinned yet absorbant . You have to deal with a very diverse population. One cannot afford to be egoist, touchy or stubborn. They mistook delhi win , which wad wave driven, as consensus driven. And since it was as unexpected to them as to all othets, they lost their bslance. Instead of following certain compulsary protocals of governance, they continued behaving as activists. Bharti should have been more discreet in his behaviour. And instead of reprimanding him, the entire team was lead to a stage show. Ridiculous. The team sure needs an overhaul. Agree with you.learn the art of consensus organizing to booth management. You will stay rooted. All the best. Regards.
Sandhya Sinha
Women's Political Forum
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Dear Ms. Sinha
Let me say that I agree with your analysis to a large extent. At the
same time we have to be PRAGMATIC.
The Govt. of Delhi is presently being run by a LG in an an OPAQUE and
CORRUPT way by the "syndicate". Citizens have no accountability
because they are UNREPRESENTED in babu-raj. The degree of corruption
is OUT-OF-CONTROL. Inflation is OUT-OF-CONTROL to the extent that
DSIDC liquor vends sales have dropped by 60% because poor people can't
afford their daily liquor, so CRIME is out of control. (We have
excellent grass root info)
BJP is showing that they are incapable of governance. AAP has already
shown that they were even more incapable of good governance, and
Congress has shown that they are only very capable of CORRUPT
GOVERNANCE which bankrupt's the State exchequers.
So, the only party which shows chances (and very small chances) of
"hope" is the AAP, but they have to undergo a "make over" and eschew
"personality cults" if they are not to implode and self-destruct. The
iron is hot if AAP knows how to strike, or else Congress may walk off
with Delhi.
Or else let BJP form a Govt !!!!
Sarbajit
See the irony --> 1 Monsanto seeded US tomato = 2 US$
On 7/29/14, sandhya sinha <sinhasandhya@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Wow! What a suggestion.it is thinkers like you who have made AAP the
> laughing stock that it has become today. AAP had won the election riding on
> the plank of anti corruption against the then ruling party. You are
> suggesting, now come and join that very chorus.wow!brilliant.
> Whatever little bit of creditabililty is left, they will lose that also.not
> because they join hands with congress but because they are going back on
> their words. They have already lost on governance.now they will lose on the
> creditability of their words too.
> Sandhya sinha
> Women's Political Forum
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> Sent: July 29, 2014 3:00 AM
> To: "indiaresists" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
> Subject: [IAC#RG] Kejriwal's dilema
>
> Delhi Govt formation is make or break now for Aam Aadmi Party's
> survival / existence.
>
> Arvind should be realistic and form a coalition govt in Delhi with
> Congress, even its for
> just for 6 months and improve his personal image.
>
> The alternative is that at least 9 of his MLAs will become very
> neutral towards the BJP. since both BJP and AAP would lose many seats
> in Delhi if elections are held today, and Congress would get AT LEAST
> 25 seats (out of 70) since LS results show AAP has lost its Muslim
> votes.
>
> Now if the AAP and Cong form a coalition, Arvind should tell all his
> boys to keep very quiet and restrain their goonda / hooligan tactics
> All these things are counter-productive IN THE LONG RUN. Arvind
> himself should maintain a sphinx-like silence and show that he is
> better at delivering good governance than Mr Modi in a MARKET DRIVEN
> ECONOMY.
>
> Sarbajit
>
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[IAC#RG] MINISTERS GO SCOT FREE IN KUMBAKONAM (TAMIL NADU ) FIRE MISHAP JUDGEMENT
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MINISTERS GO SCOT FREE IN KUMBAKONAM (TAMIL NADU ) FIRE MISHAP JUDGEMENT
After more than fifteen years, when 94 innocent children were burnt down in a fire accident in Kumbakonam school in Tamil Nadu, judgement has come punishing the members of school management, workers in the school and a few lower level officials. Now, the question is as to why the top bureaucrats in charge of the education department and the education minister have been left scot free, as if they have no responsibility for the ghastly fire accident..
In all cases of accidents and mishaps in the country, whether it is railway or mines or other disaster, where many innocent lives have been lost, the ministers and top bureaucrats are never made accountable. Only the officials at the lower level are punished.
The judgement in the Kumbakonam fire mishap says that the management of the school have been careless and violated rules and local officials have not enforced the rules. Obviously, the officials must have been bribed.
The lack of vigilance and non enforcement of rules by the local officials is a direct reflection on the quality of the administration provided by the top bureaucrats and ministers. If they were to be efficient and committed , the chain of command upto the lower level of the government machinery would be vigilant. It is surprising that the judges have not thought it necessary to punish the then education minister and the then officials for this very unfortunate and ghastly fire accident burning away innocent lives. They have not even been severely reprimanded.
N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice For The Deprived
RE: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS
I am glad to see some sensible posts reminding us of our duties as well.
After independence, an atmosphere has been created that we have all the rights but no duties
After having elected the Govt. we have a right to expect they have to everything for us.
We have surrendered our duty of protecting the women, children and the parents and elderly to the Govt
And the Govt. has dutifully passed legislation taking over our rights to marry,raise a family and live in social harmony.
The legislations have been passed by a parliament without any consultations at the grassroot level. This leads to social disharmony, flouting of laws and the crimes.
JKGaur
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 16:45:19 +0530
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When we are out of our home, we do not know what our family members are doing presently. I think, all human beings accept this.
Molestation of women and girls can only be stopped when each and every parent teach their children about the importance of women. How can we judge a person(Modi) with numerous responsibilities on his shoulders. Its not Modi, who will teach all this to our youngsters. If possible start teaching our and your youngsters rather than
writing all nonsense.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 9:46 AM, mono bhagat <monobhagat@hotmail.com> wrote:
Well said Madhu Bhatia. If we could only shed our hypocrisy and cynicism, we may get somewhere. Very easy to pen big words on a Cmptr, very hard to abide by them. People in the West act by themselves and add on value to society and living, rather than be judgemental on every one, which is a pat time with us Indian 'wellas'!
MonoFirst of all pl don't accuse Indians -its some humans.All this dirt is being splattered cosman is more and more cocooned in hisspace. HIS MIND RUNS AWAY WITH HIM.Don't expect Modi to do it all for you.Learn to be socially responsible forwhat is happening around you.WHAT R U AS INDIVIDUALS DOING IN YOUR SOCIETY.TAKING A COMPUTERAND NOW WRITING AGAINST EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING.BECOME PRO-ACTIVE ANDWORK POSITIVELY AROUND YOU.IT MAY BE GARDENING, LOOKING AFTER OTHERS,OR SENIOR CITIZENS.OR TEACHING YOGA TO OTHERS.OR JUST MEDITATE YOURSELF TO CALM DOWN.MADHU BHATIAOn Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:44 AM, S L Rao <raosl@hotmail.com> wrote:The Prime Minister of as large a country as India, with innumerable problems, and a government to run, cannot be an office boy who repondso every issue that arises. I expect he will talk to the country when he is ready. All political parties, especially those not accustomed to exercising power, have extremists and loud mouths like the ones mentioed by Mr Chopra. I am sure that a Prime Minister has better things to do than responding to each one of these madmen.
The party should have dealt with these people. It speaks of the low weight of Rajnath Singh and even Amit shah that they have not.
SLRAO
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:13:38 +0530
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTSNo Sire,i tend not to agree, in whatever is and has been said on the subject.WE as a nation, after independence, have become Impotent.IF anyone disagrees -- can he/she say why such criminalsare not given the severest punishment ?dev chopra in gurgaon***On 27 July 2014 18:40, Madhukar Thote <mythote@gmail.com> wrote:
why rapes are on the increase? Because there is no immediate severe punishment for the rapists. Court Punishment takes years. Unless there is fear of the immediate strong action, the crimes in our country will be on the rise. Our laws are perhaps weak.M.Y. ThoteOn Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:19 AM, <cdr.gandhi@gmail.com> wrote:
While I do not doubt the administrative skills and honest intensions to do good for the society. his silence on some of the serious incidents in the recent past have done him no good. He should have made clear and unequivocal statements on matters like 1. death of a muslim boy in Pune in the matter of face book entry about Shivsena Chief and Shivaji 2.behaviour of shiv sena MPs in Maharashtra sadan 3. statement of BJP leader from Telangana about Sania Mirza 4 Praveen Togadia,s statements etc. Unless he condemns them openly and catagorically his image will suffer seriously. In fact losing all 3 by elections in Uttarakhand should send him a message....H C GandhiOn Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
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SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS
It is extremely disgusting to read repeatedly the nauseating news that even girls as young as three years are being abused by men, sometimes as old as sixty years. It turns one's stomach to hear news that men teachers molest the girl students even inside the school premises and fathers and brothers rape daughters and sisters. One wonders as to what is happening to the men folk in India, who are nothing but beasts.
Such condition is a direct reflection on the quality of governance that we have in India today and the type of people who sit as ministers , parliamentarians and legislators. What these beasts among men need are severe and life long punishment, which is the responsibility of the government to inflict on them. But, some ministers laugh away at such incidents and condemn the media who expose these incidents and thus show that these politicians and ministers could themselves be the beasts, as they treat these incidents light heartedly.
While the politicians and the ministers stand condemned , one person who comes to the mind of everyone immediately is the Prime Minister Mr. Narendra Modi. What is he doing ? Why is he remaining silent ? Why is he not condemning these incidents in the strongest terms and ask the officials and police to put down such incidents with all the force at their command. He is the Prime Minister and he has the duty and responsibility to protect the helpless girls and women.
By his silence , millions of people who voted for B JP government only based on expectations and faith in Mr. Narendra Modi feel helpless and frustrated. One hopes Mr. Modi will wake up to his responsibility.
N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice For The Deprived
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RE: [IAC#RG] Kejriwal's dilema
There has been no team and still no team inAAP.
K will yield ground to MS.
S. Roy seems to have a change of heart for APP. He now considers APP as the only saviour.
APP was depending so heavily on Haryana. Now they have realised they have no rural backing,so decided not to contest.
Their finances have dried up without having built up any organisational structure.
BJP through Delhi budget have been liberal and promised to deliver what AAP promised to do for water,electricity,schools and others
JKGaur
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:18:32 -0400
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Goodmornong mr. Roy
I agree with you, that AAP needs to go through a make over. When AAP was in the making stage, I had questioned them via FB, were they equipped for governance?and they had taken offence to it. in politics, you have to be thick skinned yet absorbant . You have to deal with a very diverse population. One cannot afford to be egoist, touchy or stubborn. They mistook delhi win , which wad wave driven, as consensus driven. And since it was as unexpected to them as to all othets, they lost their bslance. Instead of following certain compulsary protocals of governance, they continued behaving as activists. Bharti should have been more discreet in his behaviour. And instead of reprimanding him, the entire team was lead to a stage show. Ridiculous. The team sure needs an overhaul. Agree with you.learn the art of consensus organizing to booth management. You will stay rooted. All the best. Regards.
Sandhya Sinha
Women's Political Forum
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From: "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Sent: July 30, 2014 3:22 AM
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Dear Ms. Sinha
Let me say that I agree with your analysis to a large extent. At the
same time we have to be PRAGMATIC.
The Govt. of Delhi is presently being run by a LG in an an OPAQUE and
CORRUPT way by the "syndicate". Citizens have no accountability
because they are UNREPRESENTED in babu-raj. The degree of corruption
is OUT-OF-CONTROL. Inflation is OUT-OF-CONTROL to the extent that
DSIDC liquor vends sales have dropped by 60% because poor people can't
afford their daily liquor, so CRIME is out of control. (We have
excellent grass root info)
BJP is showing that they are incapable of governance. AAP has already
shown that they were even more incapable of good governance, and
Congress has shown that they are only very capable of CORRUPT
GOVERNANCE which bankrupt's the State exchequers.
So, the only party which shows chances (and very small chances) of
"hope" is the AAP, but they have to undergo a "make over" and eschew
"personality cults" if they are not to implode and self-destruct. The
iron is hot if AAP knows how to strike, or else Congress may walk off
with Delhi.
Or else let BJP form a Govt !!!!
Sarbajit
See the irony --> 1 Monsanto seeded US tomato = 2 US$
On 7/29/14, sandhya sinha <sinhasandhya@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Wow! What a suggestion.it is thinkers like you who have made AAP the
> laughing stock that it has become today. AAP had won the election riding on
> the plank of anti corruption against the then ruling party. You are
> suggesting, now come and join that very chorus.wow!brilliant.
> Whatever little bit of creditabililty is left, they will lose that also.not
> because they join hands with congress but because they are going back on
> their words. They have already lost on governance.now they will lose on the
> creditability of their words too.
> Sandhya sinha
> Women's Political Forum
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> Sent: July 29, 2014 3:00 AM
> To: "indiaresists" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
> Subject: [IAC#RG] Kejriwal's dilema
>
> Delhi Govt formation is make or break now for Aam Aadmi Party's
> survival / existence.
>
> Arvind should be realistic and form a coalition govt in Delhi with
> Congress, even its for
> just for 6 months and improve his personal image.
>
> The alternative is that at least 9 of his MLAs will become very
> neutral towards the BJP. since both BJP and AAP would lose many seats
> in Delhi if elections are held today, and Congress would get AT LEAST
> 25 seats (out of 70) since LS results show AAP has lost its Muslim
> votes.
>
> Now if the AAP and Cong form a coalition, Arvind should tell all his
> boys to keep very quiet and restrain their goonda / hooligan tactics
> All these things are counter-productive IN THE LONG RUN. Arvind
> himself should maintain a sphinx-like silence and show that he is
> better at delivering good governance than Mr Modi in a MARKET DRIVEN
> ECONOMY.
>
> Sarbajit
>
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Re: [IAC#RG] Stop Meat Export, Ban Cow Slaughter & Make India Healthy
Dear mr. Jasim mohammad ji,
By making such a objective, dispassionate analysis, u are doing a great service.
Your concern for future of children, health of the nation are all so well founded.
I am also particularly appreciative of your regard for ancient cultural beliefs in relation to cow protection.
However, i believe, we as human beings as the most intelligent and powerful race on earth have a duty to be compassionate towards other species. We are mindlessly cruel to other living beings taking advantage of our intelligence. We are neither in a compromiised situation like a tiger who can not eat anything but meat. To satisfy our taste buds , we, human beings, are ready to take away life of other living beings!
Our decisions should have moral basis to last long. It should go beyond economics and sheer self good.
On 31 Jul 2014 08:14, "Jasim Mohammad" <jasimmd@gmail.com> wrote:
" Stop Meat Export , Ban Cow Slaughter & Make India Healthy"
* Jasim Mohammad Since ancient times , animals particularly cow and buffaloes have special place n our civilisation. Perhaps India is the only country where certain animals including cow are being worshipped and regarded as holy. Hindu religious texts are full of their glory. Just before independence Indian cultivation was heavily depended on cow dung fertilizers. Tilting of land was under taken by buffalo pushing. In short our whole socio - cultural set up was depended upon them.
But with changing times and the industrial revolution and market economy changes in the pattern of cultivation and our attitude towards the animals drastically changed. In the begining it was presumed that the change priorities will help the nation to be more strong economically but with he passage of time it is being analysed that un-checked export of meat and meat based products apart of abandoning cow dung fertilizer have resulted in weakening us economically and on health grounds. Chemical fertilizers are harming not only our health but also minimising the fertility of the land we cultivate.
The biggest challenge to our socio - cultural mind set and requirement have came from meat export in our zeal to earn more and more foreign exchange. No doubt the country needs and badly needs the foreign exchange but at the same time we must be careful for our own needs. The disbalances which we have created are resulting in the downfall of not our health but future of our next generation.
India, a country where eating meat particularly beef is a sensitive religious issue , has become the biggest meat exporter in the world beating the Brazil. Data of ministry of Food Processing shows that India exported 1.89 million tonnes of beef ( larger part in buffalo meat ) in 2012 - 2013 which was 50% increase over last five years.
As far as earnings from meat export are concerned , it touched to 21,000 crore in 2012 - 2013. India has major markets in USA,Europe, Gulf and South Asian countries.
Even the US Department of Agriculture ( USdA ) has acknowledged that the Indian government has played a vital role in enhancing meat and meat products exports. Uttar Pradesh is the biggest producer of export oriented meat while Kerala is the biggest consumer domestically. Cow slaughter is banned all over the country except Kerala, West Bengal and the North Eastern states.
In general meat and particularly beef has become an important foreign exchange earner in India among the agriculture based commodity after Basmati rice with 31% increase in quantity and 52 % rise in value terms during 2013 - 2014.According to figures of Agriculture & Processed Food Products Export Development Authority ( APEDA ) the beef export totaled 1449759 tonnes worth of Rs. 26458 crore lat year. The figure are really surprising for a country where meat particularly beef eating is supposed to be a taboo and has religious implications.
>The zeal on the part of individual meat business men and the government to earn the foreign exchange has resulted in depriving domestic consumers for healthy meat and milk for the next generation on whom our whole survival depends. Apart of that the cow dung fertilizer has become a rare thing and our cultivation and agricultural activites especially vegitable cultivation are highly suffering. The farmers are using chemical fertilizers which is resulting in either over fertilising or less due to illiteracy and on being ignorant scientifically. Milk is the essential commodity for healthy development of our children. But it is in short supply and out of reach of large section of Indian citizenary and the result is that we have an under nourished childhood and are consiquently producing weak and unhealthy citizen. That is not good for the nation as a whole.
>As far as milk is concerned , it is livestock enterprise in which small farmers can successfully engage in order to improve their livlihood. Regular milk supplies allow them to move from subsistence to a market based income.
>Milk production is estimated to have declined marginally to 134.5 million tonnes in the last year though expected to be 140.6 million tonnes in the current year. Total Indian milk consumption is set to match with its production this year while domestic consumption is pegged at 425000 tonnes.
>Cow dung or manure as fertilizer is very good for cultivation. when composed it has nutrient rich elements. It is also used as fuel which is environment friendly. The government should encourage masses to use cow dung as fuel as far as they can because it will save the gas for future and is economicall viable.
>In general meat eating and particularly beef eating is not part of our culture and is treated as taboo. It hurts religious feelings of largest religious group in India. In some cases this beef and meat has become tool of communal disharmony and flare up. Every nation needs peace and social harmony for its development and that is not possible till we balance our needs with the feelings of other social and religious groups.
>Hence meat export should be contained at minimum level. The better will be to completely ban the meat particularly beef export. By that our children will get better quality milk and the farmers will have rich dung fertilizer at no extra cost which will economically boost the farming in the country and will enhance agriculture income.
>Some people and lobbies take shelter under misguided plea that exports are essential for growth of country. That is right but if impartially calculated one will find that the loss from stopping meat export will be less than the increase in the export of milk and milk products. This is a crucial year in which our milk production will be just near to domestic demands.This is the year in which we have to take a positive decision in the interest of future of our children, communal harmony and national income growth and completely ban meat especially beef export.
>If the present central government has political will and courage , it should take the revolutionary decision and jump out of the net spread by some individuals and foreign countries in favour of meat export and ban it. the history will not only record the gains socially as well as economically of Modi government but will also realise dream of largest religious section of Indian masses.
* Jasim Mohammad is Director, Muslim Chamber of Commerce & Industry, Aligarh . He can be reached at jasimoffice@gmail.com
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RE: [IAC#RG] Stop Meat Export, Ban Cow Slaughter & Make IndiaHealthy
Just tell me what you will dowith cows when they are no longer productive. Who will look after the really old and sick cows/bulls and buffalos. ? kindly let me have your answer quickly.
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Thursday, July 31, 2014
Re: [IAC#RG] Stop Meat Export, Ban Cow Slaughter & Make India Healthy
I would differ on the opinion, about meat export and cow slaughter. I guess every one must have seen cows, on roads at times being killed or maimed by the vehicular traffic. We can also find cattle eating rubbish at the garbage dumps, to simplify "no one" cares but every one wants the profit through milk or meat.
Cow has been referred to be holy animal and has religious sentiments attached to it.
If we look at times when settlers we settling along the indus river and civilization was expanding animals were being domesticated cows, goats, ox, sheeps and horses for the purpose of agriculture and as a source of proteins.
Meat was used since vedic times for sacrifices and it included goats, sheeps, cows, bulls and horses. Yagas with animal sacrifices were being performed and the slaughtered animal was regarded as holy food, which was distributed and cooked. The meat was integral part of the culture since the beginning of the civilisation.
However the concern is " Not" to eat beef or not to eat beef. The concern is to why not rest the poor animal who in any case will be end being hit by a vehicle or eating rubbish.
I strongly feel that ancient religious practice's need to be validated with scientific findings and sound reasoning.
On 1 Aug 2014 11:03, "Dharmendra Kumar Dewan" <dsmcho@gmail.com> wrote:
i am in agreement with the unbiased, scientific & nationalistic views expressed by the writer Mr Jasmin Mohammed....this is how we as indians should think & act ...
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Jasim Mohammad <jasimmd@gmail.com> wrote:" Stop Meat Export , Ban Cow Slaughter & Make India Healthy"
* Jasim Mohammad Since ancient times , animals particularly cow and buffaloes have special place n our civilisation. Perhaps India is the only country where certain animals including cow are being worshipped and regarded as holy. Hindu religious texts are full of their glory. Just before independence Indian cultivation was heavily depended on cow dung fertilizers. Tilting of land was under taken by buffalo pushing. In short our whole socio - cultural set up was depended upon them.
But with changing times and the industrial revolution and market economy changes in the pattern of cultivation and our attitude towards the animals drastically changed. In the begining it was presumed that the change priorities will help the nation to be more strong economically but with he passage of time it is being analysed that un-checked export of meat and meat based products apart of abandoning cow dung fertilizer have resulted in weakening us economically and on health grounds. Chemical fertilizers are harming not only our health but also minimising the fertility of the land we cultivate.
The biggest challenge to our socio - cultural mind set and requirement have came from meat export in our zeal to earn more and more foreign exchange. No doubt the country needs and badly needs the foreign exchange but at the same time we must be careful for our own needs. The disbalances which we have created are resulting in the downfall of not our health but future of our next generation.
India, a country where eating meat particularly beef is a sensitive religious issue , has become the biggest meat exporter in the world beating the Brazil. Data of ministry of Food Processing shows that India exported 1.89 million tonnes of beef ( larger part in buffalo meat ) in 2012 - 2013 which was 50% increase over last five years.
As far as earnings from meat export are concerned , it touched to 21,000 crore in 2012 - 2013. India has major markets in USA,Europe, Gulf and South Asian countries.
Even the US Department of Agriculture ( USdA ) has acknowledged that the Indian government has played a vital role in enhancing meat and meat products exports. Uttar Pradesh is the biggest producer of export oriented meat while Kerala is the biggest consumer domestically. Cow slaughter is banned all over the country except Kerala, West Bengal and the North Eastern states.
In general meat and particularly beef has become an important foreign exchange earner in India among the agriculture based commodity after Basmati rice with 31% increase in quantity and 52 % rise in value terms during 2013 - 2014.According to figures of Agriculture & Processed Food Products Export Development Authority ( APEDA ) the beef export totaled 1449759 tonnes worth of Rs. 26458 crore lat year. The figure are really surprising for a country where meat particularly beef eating is supposed to be a taboo and has religious implications.
>The zeal on the part of individual meat business men and the government to earn the foreign exchange has resulted in depriving domestic consumers for healthy meat and milk for the next generation on whom our whole survival depends. Apart of that the cow dung fertilizer has become a rare thing and our cultivation and agricultural activites especially vegitable cultivation are highly suffering. The farmers are using chemical fertilizers which is resulting in either over fertilising or less due to illiteracy and on being ignorant scientifically. Milk is the essential commodity for healthy development of our children. But it is in short supply and out of reach of large section of Indian citizenary and the result is that we have an under nourished childhood and are consiquently producing weak and unhealthy citizen. That is not good for the nation as a whole.
>As far as milk is concerned , it is livestock enterprise in which small farmers can successfully engage in order to improve their livlihood. Regular milk supplies allow them to move from subsistence to a market based income.
>Milk production is estimated to have declined marginally to 134.5 million tonnes in the last year though expected to be 140.6 million tonnes in the current year. Total Indian milk consumption is set to match with its production this year while domestic consumption is pegged at 425000 tonnes.
>Cow dung or manure as fertilizer is very good for cultivation. when composed it has nutrient rich elements. It is also used as fuel which is environment friendly. The government should encourage masses to use cow dung as fuel as far as they can because it will save the gas for future and is economicall viable.
>In general meat eating and particularly beef eating is not part of our culture and is treated as taboo. It hurts religious feelings of largest religious group in India. In some cases this beef and meat has become tool of communal disharmony and flare up. Every nation needs peace and social harmony for its development and that is not possible till we balance our needs with the feelings of other social and religious groups.
>Hence meat export should be contained at minimum level. The better will be to completely ban the meat particularly beef export. By that our children will get better quality milk and the farmers will have rich dung fertilizer at no extra cost which will economically boost the farming in the country and will enhance agriculture income.
>Some people and lobbies take shelter under misguided plea that exports are essential for growth of country. That is right but if impartially calculated one will find that the loss from stopping meat export will be less than the increase in the export of milk and milk products. This is a crucial year in which our milk production will be just near to domestic demands.This is the year in which we have to take a positive decision in the interest of future of our children, communal harmony and national income growth and completely ban meat especially beef export.
>If the present central government has political will and courage , it should take the revolutionary decision and jump out of the net spread by some individuals and foreign countries in favour of meat export and ban it. the history will not only record the gains socially as well as economically of Modi government but will also realise dream of largest religious section of Indian masses.
* Jasim Mohammad is Director, Muslim Chamber of Commerce & Industry, Aligarh . He can be reached at jasimoffice@gmail.com
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[IAC#RG] Fwd: [FRIAM] Biometrics in the Institution of Slavery
Interesting link.
No wonder NaMo is now promoting this CIA scheme like Roberto Vadehra
previously was.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: George Duncan <g....@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:49:31 -0600
Subject: [FRIAM] Biometrics in the Institution of Slavery
Technology in the interest of social control. Ah, the history of move
and counter-move!
http://privacysos.org/node/1476
George Duncan
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My art theme: Dynamic application of matrix order and luminous chaos.
Remember what Mark Twain said: "It is not what you *don't* know that harms
you, it is what you know for certain—and it just ain't true!"
No wonder NaMo is now promoting this CIA scheme like Roberto Vadehra
previously was.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: George Duncan <g....@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:49:31 -0600
Subject: [FRIAM] Biometrics in the Institution of Slavery
Technology in the interest of social control. Ah, the history of move
and counter-move!
http://privacysos.org/node/1476
George Duncan
georgeduncanart.com
(505) 983-6895
Represented by ViVO Contemporary
725 Canyon Road
Santa Fe, NM 87501
My art theme: Dynamic application of matrix order and luminous chaos.
Remember what Mark Twain said: "It is not what you *don't* know that harms
you, it is what you know for certain—and it just ain't true!"
Wednesday, July 30, 2014
Re: [IAC#RG] Stop Meat Export, Ban Cow Slaughter & Make India Healthy
i am in agreement with the unbiased, scientific & nationalistic views expressed by the writer Mr Jasmin Mohammed....this is how we as indians should think & act ...
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Jasim Mohammad <jasimmd@gmail.com> wrote:
" Stop Meat Export , Ban Cow Slaughter & Make India Healthy"
* Jasim Mohammad Since ancient times , animals particularly cow and buffaloes have special place n our civilisation. Perhaps India is the only country where certain animals including cow are being worshipped and regarded as holy. Hindu religious texts are full of their glory. Just before independence Indian cultivation was heavily depended on cow dung fertilizers. Tilting of land was under taken by buffalo pushing. In short our whole socio - cultural set up was depended upon them.
But with changing times and the industrial revolution and market economy changes in the pattern of cultivation and our attitude towards the animals drastically changed. In the begining it was presumed that the change priorities will help the nation to be more strong economically but with he passage of time it is being analysed that un-checked export of meat and meat based products apart of abandoning cow dung fertilizer have resulted in weakening us economically and on health grounds. Chemical fertilizers are harming not only our health but also minimising the fertility of the land we cultivate.
The biggest challenge to our socio - cultural mind set and requirement have came from meat export in our zeal to earn more and more foreign exchange. No doubt the country needs and badly needs the foreign exchange but at the same time we must be careful for our own needs. The disbalances which we have created are resulting in the downfall of not our health but future of our next generation.
India, a country where eating meat particularly beef is a sensitive religious issue , has become the biggest meat exporter in the world beating the Brazil. Data of ministry of Food Processing shows that India exported 1.89 million tonnes of beef ( larger part in buffalo meat ) in 2012 - 2013 which was 50% increase over last five years.
As far as earnings from meat export are concerned , it touched to 21,000 crore in 2012 - 2013. India has major markets in USA,Europe, Gulf and South Asian countries.
Even the US Department of Agriculture ( USdA ) has acknowledged that the Indian government has played a vital role in enhancing meat and meat products exports. Uttar Pradesh is the biggest producer of export oriented meat while Kerala is the biggest consumer domestically. Cow slaughter is banned all over the country except Kerala, West Bengal and the North Eastern states.
In general meat and particularly beef has become an important foreign exchange earner in India among the agriculture based commodity after Basmati rice with 31% increase in quantity and 52 % rise in value terms during 2013 - 2014.According to figures of Agriculture & Processed Food Products Export Development Authority ( APEDA ) the beef export totaled 1449759 tonnes worth of Rs. 26458 crore lat year. The figure are really surprising for a country where meat particularly beef eating is supposed to be a taboo and has religious implications.
>The zeal on the part of individual meat business men and the government to earn the foreign exchange has resulted in depriving domestic consumers for healthy meat and milk for the next generation on whom our whole survival depends. Apart of that the cow dung fertilizer has become a rare thing and our cultivation and agricultural activites especially vegitable cultivation are highly suffering. The farmers are using chemical fertilizers which is resulting in either over fertilising or less due to illiteracy and on being ignorant scientifically. Milk is the essential commodity for healthy development of our children. But it is in short supply and out of reach of large section of Indian citizenary and the result is that we have an under nourished childhood and are consiquently producing weak and unhealthy citizen. That is not good for the nation as a whole.
>As far as milk is concerned , it is livestock enterprise in which small farmers can successfully engage in order to improve their livlihood. Regular milk supplies allow them to move from subsistence to a market based income.
>Milk production is estimated to have declined marginally to 134.5 million tonnes in the last year though expected to be 140.6 million tonnes in the current year. Total Indian milk consumption is set to match with its production this year while domestic consumption is pegged at 425000 tonnes.
>Cow dung or manure as fertilizer is very good for cultivation. when composed it has nutrient rich elements. It is also used as fuel which is environment friendly. The government should encourage masses to use cow dung as fuel as far as they can because it will save the gas for future and is economicall viable.
>In general meat eating and particularly beef eating is not part of our culture and is treated as taboo. It hurts religious feelings of largest religious group in India. In some cases this beef and meat has become tool of communal disharmony and flare up. Every nation needs peace and social harmony for its development and that is not possible till we balance our needs with the feelings of other social and religious groups.
>Hence meat export should be contained at minimum level. The better will be to completely ban the meat particularly beef export. By that our children will get better quality milk and the farmers will have rich dung fertilizer at no extra cost which will economically boost the farming in the country and will enhance agriculture income.
>Some people and lobbies take shelter under misguided plea that exports are essential for growth of country. That is right but if impartially calculated one will find that the loss from stopping meat export will be less than the increase in the export of milk and milk products. This is a crucial year in which our milk production will be just near to domestic demands.This is the year in which we have to take a positive decision in the interest of future of our children, communal harmony and national income growth and completely ban meat especially beef export.
>If the present central government has political will and courage , it should take the revolutionary decision and jump out of the net spread by some individuals and foreign countries in favour of meat export and ban it. the history will not only record the gains socially as well as economically of Modi government but will also realise dream of largest religious section of Indian masses.
* Jasim Mohammad is Director, Muslim Chamber of Commerce & Industry, Aligarh . He can be reached at jasimoffice@gmail.com
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[IAC#RG] Stop Meat Export, Ban Cow Slaughter & Make India Healthy
" Stop Meat Export , Ban Cow Slaughter & Make India Healthy"
* Jasim Mohammad Since ancient times , animals particularly cow and buffaloes have special place n our civilisation. Perhaps India is the only country where certain animals including cow are being worshipped and regarded as holy. Hindu religious texts are full of their glory. Just before independence Indian cultivation was heavily depended on cow dung fertilizers. Tilting of land was under taken by buffalo pushing. In short our whole socio - cultural set up was depended upon them.
But with changing times and the industrial revolution and market economy changes in the pattern of cultivation and our attitude towards the animals drastically changed. In the begining it was presumed that the change priorities will help the nation to be more strong economically but with he passage of time it is being analysed that un-checked export of meat and meat based products apart of abandoning cow dung fertilizer have resulted in weakening us economically and on health grounds. Chemical fertilizers are harming not only our health but also minimising the fertility of the land we cultivate.
The biggest challenge to our socio - cultural mind set and requirement have came from meat export in our zeal to earn more and more foreign exchange. No doubt the country needs and badly needs the foreign exchange but at the same time we must be careful for our own needs. The disbalances which we have created are resulting in the downfall of not our health but future of our next generation.
India, a country where eating meat particularly beef is a sensitive religious issue , has become the biggest meat exporter in the world beating the Brazil. Data of ministry of Food Processing shows that India exported 1.89 million tonnes of beef ( larger part in buffalo meat ) in 2012 - 2013 which was 50% increase over last five years.
As far as earnings from meat export are concerned , it touched to 21,000 crore in 2012 - 2013. India has major markets in USA,Europe, Gulf and South Asian countries.
Even the US Department of Agriculture ( USdA ) has acknowledged that the Indian government has played a vital role in enhancing meat and meat products exports. Uttar Pradesh is the biggest producer of export oriented meat while Kerala is the biggest consumer domestically. Cow slaughter is banned all over the country except Kerala, West Bengal and the North Eastern states.
In general meat and particularly beef has become an important foreign exchange earner in India among the agriculture based commodity after Basmati rice with 31% increase in quantity and 52 % rise in value terms during 2013 - 2014.According to figures of Agriculture & Processed Food Products Export Development Authority ( APEDA ) the beef export totaled 1449759 tonnes worth of Rs. 26458 crore lat year. The figure are really surprising for a country where meat particularly beef eating is supposed to be a taboo and has religious implications.
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The zeal on the part of individual meat business men and the government to earn the foreign exchange has resulted in depriving domestic consumers for healthy meat and milk for the next generation on whom our whole survival depends. Apart of that the cow dung fertilizer has become a rare thing and our cultivation and agricultural activites especially vegitable cultivation are highly suffering. The farmers are using chemical fertilizers which is resulting in either over fertilising or less due to illiteracy and on being ignorant scientifically. Milk is the essential commodity for healthy development of our children. But it is in short supply and out of reach of large section of Indian citizenary and the result is that we have an under nourished childhood and are consiquently producing weak and unhealthy citizen. That is not good for the nation as a whole.
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As far as milk is concerned , it is livestock enterprise in which small farmers can successfully engage in order to improve their livlihood. Regular milk supplies allow them to move from subsistence to a market based income.
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Milk production is estimated to have declined marginally to 134.5 million tonnes in the last year though expected to be 140.6 million tonnes in the current year. Total Indian milk consumption is set to match with its production this year while domestic consumption is pegged at 425000 tonnes.
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Cow dung or manure as fertilizer is very good for cultivation. when composed it has nutrient rich elements. It is also used as fuel which is environment friendly. The government should encourage masses to use cow dung as fuel as far as they can because it will save the gas for future and is economicall viable.
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In general meat eating and particularly beef eating is not part of our culture and is treated as taboo. It hurts religious feelings of largest religious group in India. In some cases this beef and meat has become tool of communal disharmony and flare up. Every nation needs peace and social harmony for its development and that is not possible till we balance our needs with the feelings of other social and religious groups.
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Hence meat export should be contained at minimum level. The better will be to completely ban the meat particularly beef export. By that our children will get better quality milk and the farmers will have rich dung fertilizer at no extra cost which will economically boost the farming in the country and will enhance agriculture income.
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Some people and lobbies take shelter under misguided plea that exports are essential for growth of country. That is right but if impartially calculated one will find that the loss from stopping meat export will be less than the increase in the export of milk and milk products. This is a crucial year in which our milk production will be just near to domestic demands.This is the year in which we have to take a positive decision in the interest of future of our children, communal harmony and national income growth and completely ban meat especially beef export.
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If the present central government has political will and courage , it should take the revolutionary decision and jump out of the net spread by some individuals and foreign countries in favour of meat export and ban it. the history will not only record the gains socially as well as economically of Modi government but will also realise dream of largest religious section of Indian masses.
* Jasim Mohammad is Director, Muslim Chamber of Commerce & Industry, Aligarh . He can be reached at jasimoffice@gmail.com
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