Saturday, October 11, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe this blot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman

does it remind we are still living in slavery. today, it is with sadhvi pragya, tomorrow it may be with any one of us. what to do is more important, let us think jointly. i am not a lawer, i am  from engg. field and is a teacher. i am sure, our concern will propagate and momentum will generate.

Dr. A.K. Upadhyay  

On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 6:32 PM, AK Bhattacharyya <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
Six years have passed without a chargesheet for a sick lady.Definitely this state of Legal performance should not be allowed to continue by any sensitive Government head.Poor governance.
 
With kind regards





A.K.BHATTACHARYYA


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On Sunday, October 5, 2014 5:16 PM, Dr. J. K. Chaudhry <jkchaudhry@gmail.com> wrote:


Agreement 100%
Term " Law will take its own course ". Got bad reputation due to its use by Narsimhan Rao
Plus
Course which Indian law takes  !
J.K.Chaudhry

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On Oct 5, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Amarnath Wanchoo <anwanchoo@outlook.com> wrote:

Actually Dr. Chaudhry, Mr. Modi does not interfere in the law taking its own course. He has said so to Mr. Swamy in the Jayalalitha case as I learnt from a tweet of Swamy. So Pragya's case as well as that Colonel's (Purohit?) and NH cases shall also run their courses, like Vanjara's and his own cases ran.
 
Don't you think it is the fairest thing to do though many may not appreciate it?
 
Best and regards,

Amarnath Wanchoo

"A man who has never gone to school may steal from a freight car, but if he has a university education, he may steal the whole railroad." ~ Theodore Roosevelt
 
Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe this blot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman
 
Any case that comes to your notice,
Do what your Conscience says.
Don't procrastinate till you cannot reform the world.........again by your own conscience ,OR,
Whatever is left of it.
J.K.Chaudhry

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 4, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Poonam Agarwal <poonam.agarwal88@gmail.com> wrote:

Thousands are languishing in jail without any charge sheet and without any trail..why you sympathising only pragya ????
On Oct 4, 2014 9:29 AM, "Satya D" <hitaya123@gmail.com> wrote:
It is time BJP Government render justice to Sadhvi Pragya.   Is standing for Hinduism her sin? If she committed any crime why was she not convicted for six years?

I understand her health was so destroyed that she will never be normal.  It is a tragedy it is happening in India, not country like Saudi Arabia.
 
 

For heaven sake, let us fight for justice to her. 
We should register our protest to Indian Government to stop this atrocity.   We need to reach out to Sadhu Sant to raise voice and stop this on a Sadhu and a woman.  It is a matter of shame.

Regards,
Satya



 
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: 'BaheUSA' via Hindu Association of the USA <hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com>
Date: Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:11 AM
Subject: HinduAssociationUSA *** Today, on her b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya Thakur in our thoughts as we wonder if her biggest crime was being born a Hindu in a secular country like India.
To: "hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com" <hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com>





Today, on her b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya Thakur in our thoughts as we wonder if her biggest crime was being born a Hindu in a secular country like India.
She's been accused of orchestrating Malegaon blasts six years back. Proof ? Her motorcycle (which wasn't in her possession for over a year and might as well have been stolen like recent pune blasts) was recovered from the site leading NIA to frame miss Pragya and led Chidambaram to coin a new term- 'saffron terror'.
No one wants to hear the fact that CBI and Maharashtra ATS investigations have revealed the hand of nine 'minority community' guys (and three absconding) behind this crime with the motive of triggering riots in the area.
ATS says it's got concrete proof against these nine guys but NIA wants to prove its own contrived story by hook or by crook.
Six years have gone without as much as a charge sheet but Sadhvi Pragya languishes in the jail suffering mental and physical pain in addition to various ailments she's acquired in the prison.
And here we are, the so called majority of India..watching in silence like gullible docile sheep, waiting for some miracle to happen.

Human rights anyone?


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Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe thisblot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman

It is premature to say whether she has been punished enough or not. If we go by the gravity of the alleged crime, she has not spent enough time in jail, because such crimes entail a long term in imprisonment and any time spent in prison,  waiting for the trial is adjusted against the eventual prison sentence. This can only be decided by a fair and speedy trial which she is being denied.

The fact that she is a Sadhvi, has no value in the eyes of  law. Her status is that of a citizen and that is what she will be treated as. Sadhvi's do not get involved in criminal conspiracies to kill other people. Another political Sadhvi got away lightly was Uma Bharati who confessed to instigating the demolition of a historic structure.  Devinder   
From: Diwan Singh <diwans2007@gmail.com>
To: devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com
Cc: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe thisblot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman

I support this mail. shadvi pragya seems to  be punished already without being convicted. She is a saint and deserve respect from the society.
On 5 Oct 2014 01:33, <devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com> wrote:
Dear Mr Roy, Thanks for the response. 

Apart from the Sandhni" aspect which arouses Hindu sentiments,  the fact that three attempts at the Supreme Court level by both Pragya Singh Thakur and Lt.Col. Prohit to get bail were refused means that there is much more to the case than the public is aware of. Additionally, the fact that the RSS prachark Sunil Joshi  who allegedly actually placed the bomb was bumped off, shows that he knew too much and his existence was dangerous for the ideologues he was working for. The alleged confession by Pragya Singh Thakur that she was responsible for his murder because he made amorous advances towards her is hardly a credible story and looks like an attempt at a cover up for it..  Regards  Devinder
From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe thisblot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman

Dear Mr. Thakur

BJP under dynamic CM of MP is doing everything in its power to save
his Govt the embarrassment of having the poor lady die in a MP Govt
hospital.

Our Pavlovian barking dogs on this list may not know all the facts.

The Dewas Police has recently discovered startling new evidence that
murdered RSS pracharak Sunil Joshi (who was in hiding after allegedly
murdering 2 Cong MPs) was a liquor kingpin and made sexual advances to
the innocent Sadhvi. This allegedly outraged her rakhi brothers who
were associated with Joshi in his businesses and they formed a
conspiracy in which the poor Sadhvi was also roped in.

The National Investigative Agency has taken this new information very
seriously and is approaching the court to get Sadhvi's name deleted as
an accused. It is widely expected that if any unfortunate event occurs
to Sadhvi post her release, attempts shall be made to see the senior
Congress leadership in MP shall suffer like Congress suffered in
Chattisgarh.




On 10/4/14, devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com
<devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> Now that the government at the centre is the one who is committed not to
> appease the minorities. Now what is the problem in getting justice for
> Pragya Singh Thakur. Why is she allowed to languish in jail when she is
> innocent and needs justice. There got to be an answer for this. What is N
> moi doing to help her. and the same goes for Lt.Col. Prohit her
> co-accused.?? Devindeer
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: sanjay agrawal <sanjaynirmalagrawal@yahoo.co.in>
>>To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
>>Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 9:07 AM
>>Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe
>> thisblot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman
>>
>>
>>
>>this is for the appeasement of minority.
>>"bas ek hi ulloo kafee tha veerane gulistan karne ko
>>har shakh pe ulloo baitha tha anjaame gulista kya hota"
>>now this is the time for correction.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Saturday, 4 October 2014 10:56 AM, Shaila S <shaila62@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>pls let me know how i can help pragya ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Satya D <hitaya123@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (hitaya123@gmail.com)
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It is time BJP Government render justice to Sadhvi Pragya.  Is standing
>>>> for Hinduism her sin? If she committed any crime why was she not
>>>> convicted for six years?
>>>>
>>>>I understand her health was so destroyed that she will never be normal.
>>>> It is a tragedy it is happening in India, not country like Saudi Arabia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>For heaven sake, let us fight for justice to her.  We should register our
>>>> protest to Indian Government to stop this atrocity.  We need to reach
>>>> out to Sadhu Sant to raise voice and stop this on a Sadhu and a woman.
>>>> It is a matter of shame.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Satya
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>From: 'BaheUSA' via Hindu Association of the USA
>>>>> <hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>Date:
>  Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:11 AM
>>>>>Subject: HinduAssociationUSA *** Today, on her
>  b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya Thakur in our thoughts as we wonder if her
>
>  biggest crime was being born a Hindu in a secular country like India.
>>>>>To:
>  "hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com"
> <hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Dr. Subramanian  Swamy Today, on her b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya
>>>>> Thakur  in our thoughts as we wonder if her biggest crime was being
>>>>> born a Hindu in a  secular country like India.
>>>>>She's been  accused of orchestrating Malegaon blasts six years back.
>>>>> Proof ? Her  motorcycle (which wasn't in her possession for over a year
>>>>> and might as well  have been stolen like recent pune blasts) was
>>>>> recovered from the site leading  NIA to frame miss Pragya and led
>>>>> Chidambaram to coin a new term- 'saffron  terror'. No one wants to hear
>>>>> the fact that CBI and Maharashtra  ATS investigations have revealed the
>>>>> hand of nine 'minority community' guys  (and three absconding) behind
>>>>> this crime with the motive of triggering riots  in the area.
>>>>>ATS says it's got concrete proof against these nine guys but
>  NIA wants to prove its own contrived story by hook or by crook.
>>>>>Six years have gone without as much as a charge sheet but  Sadhvi Pragya
>>>>> languishes in the jail suffering mental and physical pain in  addition
>>>>> to various ailments she's acquired in the prison.
>>>>>And here we are, the so called majority of  India..watching in silence
>>>>> like gullible docile sheep, waiting for some  miracle to  happen.
>>>>
>>>>>Human rights  anyone?
>>>>>
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>>>>Regards,
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Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe thisblot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman

I support this mail. shadvi pragya seems to  be punished already without being convicted. She is a saint and deserve respect from the society.

On 5 Oct 2014 01:33, <devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com> wrote:
Dear Mr Roy, Thanks for the response. 

Apart from the Sandhni" aspect which arouses Hindu sentiments,  the fact that three attempts at the Supreme Court level by both Pragya Singh Thakur and Lt.Col. Prohit to get bail were refused means that there is much more to the case than the public is aware of. Additionally, the fact that the RSS prachark Sunil Joshi  who allegedly actually placed the bomb was bumped off, shows that he knew too much and his existence was dangerous for the ideologues he was working for. The alleged confession by Pragya Singh Thakur that she was responsible for his murder because he made amorous advances towards her is hardly a credible story and looks like an attempt at a cover up for it..  Regards  Devinder
From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe thisblot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman

Dear Mr. Thakur

BJP under dynamic CM of MP is doing everything in its power to save
his Govt the embarrassment of having the poor lady die in a MP Govt
hospital.

Our Pavlovian barking dogs on this list may not know all the facts.

The Dewas Police has recently discovered startling new evidence that
murdered RSS pracharak Sunil Joshi (who was in hiding after allegedly
murdering 2 Cong MPs) was a liquor kingpin and made sexual advances to
the innocent Sadhvi. This allegedly outraged her rakhi brothers who
were associated with Joshi in his businesses and they formed a
conspiracy in which the poor Sadhvi was also roped in.

The National Investigative Agency has taken this new information very
seriously and is approaching the court to get Sadhvi's name deleted as
an accused. It is widely expected that if any unfortunate event occurs
to Sadhvi post her release, attempts shall be made to see the senior
Congress leadership in MP shall suffer like Congress suffered in
Chattisgarh.




On 10/4/14, devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com
<devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> Now that the government at the centre is the one who is committed not to
> appease the minorities. Now what is the problem in getting justice for
> Pragya Singh Thakur. Why is she allowed to languish in jail when she is
> innocent and needs justice. There got to be an answer for this. What is N
> moi doing to help her. and the same goes for Lt.Col. Prohit her
> co-accused.?? Devindeer
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: sanjay agrawal <sanjaynirmalagrawal@yahoo.co.in>
>>To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
>>Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 9:07 AM
>>Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe
>> thisblot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman
>>
>>
>>
>>this is for the appeasement of minority.
>>"bas ek hi ulloo kafee tha veerane gulistan karne ko
>>har shakh pe ulloo baitha tha anjaame gulista kya hota"
>>now this is the time for correction.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Saturday, 4 October 2014 10:56 AM, Shaila S <shaila62@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>pls let me know how i can help pragya ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Satya D <hitaya123@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (hitaya123@gmail.com)
>>> Add cleanup rule | More info
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It is time BJP Government render justice to Sadhvi Pragya.  Is standing
>>>> for Hinduism her sin? If she committed any crime why was she not
>>>> convicted for six years?
>>>>
>>>>I understand her health was so destroyed that she will never be normal.
>>>> It is a tragedy it is happening in India, not country like Saudi Arabia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>For heaven sake, let us fight for justice to her.  We should register our
>>>> protest to Indian Government to stop this atrocity.  We need to reach
>>>> out to Sadhu Sant to raise voice and stop this on a Sadhu and a woman.
>>>> It is a matter of shame.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Satya
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>From: 'BaheUSA' via Hindu Association of the USA
>>>>> <hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>Date:
>  Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:11 AM
>>>>>Subject: HinduAssociationUSA *** Today, on her
>  b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya Thakur in our thoughts as we wonder if her
>
>  biggest crime was being born a Hindu in a secular country like India.
>>>>>To:
>  "hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com"
> <hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Dr. Subramanian  Swamy Today, on her b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya
>>>>> Thakur  in our thoughts as we wonder if her biggest crime was being
>>>>> born a Hindu in a  secular country like India.
>>>>>She's been  accused of orchestrating Malegaon blasts six years back.
>>>>> Proof ? Her  motorcycle (which wasn't in her possession for over a year
>>>>> and might as well  have been stolen like recent pune blasts) was
>>>>> recovered from the site leading  NIA to frame miss Pragya and led
>>>>> Chidambaram to coin a new term- 'saffron  terror'. No one wants to hear
>>>>> the fact that CBI and Maharashtra  ATS investigations have revealed the
>>>>> hand of nine 'minority community' guys  (and three absconding) behind
>>>>> this crime with the motive of triggering riots  in the area.
>>>>>ATS says it's got concrete proof against these nine guys but
>  NIA wants to prove its own contrived story by hook or by crook.
>>>>>Six years have gone without as much as a charge sheet but  Sadhvi Pragya
>>>>> languishes in the jail suffering mental and physical pain in  addition
>>>>> to various ailments she's acquired in the prison.
>>>>>And here we are, the so called majority of  India..watching in silence
>>>>> like gullible docile sheep, waiting for some  miracle to  happen.
>>>>
>>>>>Human rights  anyone?
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>Regards,
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Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe this blot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman

Six years have passed without a chargesheet for a sick lady.Definitely this state of Legal performance should not be allowed to continue by any sensitive Government head.Poor governance.
 
With kind regards





A.K.BHATTACHARYYA


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On Sunday, October 5, 2014 5:16 PM, Dr. J. K. Chaudhry <jkchaudhry@gmail.com> wrote:


Agreement 100%
Term " Law will take its own course ". Got bad reputation due to its use by Narsimhan Rao
Plus
Course which Indian law takes  !
J.K.Chaudhry

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 5, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Amarnath Wanchoo <anwanchoo@outlook.com> wrote:

Actually Dr. Chaudhry, Mr. Modi does not interfere in the law taking its own course. He has said so to Mr. Swamy in the Jayalalitha case as I learnt from a tweet of Swamy. So Pragya's case as well as that Colonel's (Purohit?) and NH cases shall also run their courses, like Vanjara's and his own cases ran.
 
Don't you think it is the fairest thing to do though many may not appreciate it?
 
Best and regards,

Amarnath Wanchoo

"A man who has never gone to school may steal from a freight car, but if he has a university education, he may steal the whole railroad." ~ Theodore Roosevelt
 
Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe this blot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman
 
Any case that comes to your notice,
Do what your Conscience says.
Don't procrastinate till you cannot reform the world.........again by your own conscience ,OR,
Whatever is left of it.
J.K.Chaudhry

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 4, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Poonam Agarwal <poonam.agarwal88@gmail.com> wrote:

Thousands are languishing in jail without any charge sheet and without any trail..why you sympathising only pragya ????
On Oct 4, 2014 9:29 AM, "Satya D" <hitaya123@gmail.com> wrote:
It is time BJP Government render justice to Sadhvi Pragya.   Is standing for Hinduism her sin? If she committed any crime why was she not convicted for six years?

I understand her health was so destroyed that she will never be normal.  It is a tragedy it is happening in India, not country like Saudi Arabia.
 
 

For heaven sake, let us fight for justice to her. 
We should register our protest to Indian Government to stop this atrocity.   We need to reach out to Sadhu Sant to raise voice and stop this on a Sadhu and a woman.  It is a matter of shame.

Regards,
Satya



 
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Date: Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:11 AM
Subject: HinduAssociationUSA *** Today, on her b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya Thakur in our thoughts as we wonder if her biggest crime was being born a Hindu in a secular country like India.
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Today, on her b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya Thakur in our thoughts as we wonder if her biggest crime was being born a Hindu in a secular country like India.
She's been accused of orchestrating Malegaon blasts six years back. Proof ? Her motorcycle (which wasn't in her possession for over a year and might as well have been stolen like recent pune blasts) was recovered from the site leading NIA to frame miss Pragya and led Chidambaram to coin a new term- 'saffron terror'.
No one wants to hear the fact that CBI and Maharashtra ATS investigations have revealed the hand of nine 'minority community' guys (and three absconding) behind this crime with the motive of triggering riots in the area.
ATS says it's got concrete proof against these nine guys but NIA wants to prove its own contrived story by hook or by crook.
Six years have gone without as much as a charge sheet but Sadhvi Pragya languishes in the jail suffering mental and physical pain in addition to various ailments she's acquired in the prison.
And here we are, the so called majority of India..watching in silence like gullible docile sheep, waiting for some miracle to happen.

Human rights anyone?


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Friday, October 10, 2014

[IAC#RG] Tamil Nadu incidents wake up call for anti corruption movement

Yes dear,
 
We do expect that our Prime Minister Mr. Narendra Modi takes the FIRST STEP to eliminate or at least reduce to any extent CORRUPTION (BHRASHTACHAR) in the given system. He promised a lot in his pre-LOK SABHA speeches. He has built high hopes for the poor and middle income groups. Let us hope HE does the First Step.
 
Dr. Hari Dev Goyal  
10th October, 2014
 
From: Venkatraman Ns
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎08‎ ‎October‎ ‎2014 ‎21‎:‎09
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India Against Corruption

The present conditions in Tamil Nadu , where mass protests have been organised against the conviction for Jayalalitha is a pointer  for the shape of things to come.

Similar recent incident was the protest organised against the eviction notice to Ajit Singh from the government bunglow,  that he was occupying in New Delhi in an unauthorised manner.

Every political leader in the country appears to maintain an army of sycophants who are enabled to make money or get position  for themselves by the political power of the leader.  As a matter of fact,  both the political leader and the sycophants need each other to survive, loot  and prosper. When these sycophants protest against the conviction or action against  their political leader,  they  protest  only  to protect their own positions.

Very large segment of the country men are not part of the sycophant gang. But they lack courage to stand against the violent behaviour of these elements  and simply bow to their  demand to shut the shops or stay away from work. Media, sometimes partisan , sometimes scared  and most of the time sensational give huge publicity to such unwarranted protests and in the process make such protests look like genuine for a cause.

One only hopes that the judges will not allow themselves to be influenced or coerced by such motivated protesters and they will deal with the issues legally.

If conditions such as now in Tamil Nadu are allowed to prevail,  then it would be extremely difficult to punish any corrupt politician in India. Now, here is a wake up call for anti corruption movement in the country.

N.S. Venkataraman
Nandini Voice For The Deprived
Chennai

Thursday, October 9, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] Tamil Nadu incidents wake up call for anti corruption movement

Thank you, that gives a lot of clarity to what's the state of affairs. 

The corrupt are in power because the ones 

who are able and worthy - DO NOT STEP FORWARD 

Thanks Madhu Bhatia - Editor 

Rishi Vani - Monthly in English, Kannada, Marathi  & Gujarti. 



On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:

To

India Against Corruption

The present conditions in Tamil Nadu , where mass protests have been organised against the conviction for Jayalalitha is a pointer  for the shape of things to come.

Similar recent incident was the protest organised against the eviction notice to Ajit Singh from the government bunglow,  that he was occupying in New Delhi in an unauthorised manner.

Every political leader in the country appears to maintain an army of sycophants who are enabled to make money or get position  for themselves by the political power of the leader.  As a matter of fact,  both the political leader and the sycophants need each other to survive, loot  and prosper. When these sycophants protest against the conviction or action against  their political leader,  they  protest  only  to protect their own positions.

Very large segment of the country men are not part of the sycophant gang. But they lack courage to stand against the violent behaviour of these elements  and simply bow to their  demand to shut the shops or stay away from work. Media, sometimes partisan , sometimes scared  and most of the time sensational give huge publicity to such unwarranted protests and in the process make such protests look like genuine for a cause.

One only hopes that the judges will not allow themselves to be influenced or coerced by such motivated protesters and they will deal with the issues legally.

If conditions such as now in Tamil Nadu are allowed to prevail,  then it would be extremely difficult to punish any corrupt politician in India. Now, here is a wake up call for anti corruption movement in the country.

N.S. Venkataraman
Nandini Voice For The Deprived
Chennai


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Wednesday, October 8, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] Tamil Nadu incidents wake up call for anti corruption movement

Dear Mr. Venkatraman

This is not the time for a wake up call for the anti-corruption movement.

The IAC anti-corruption movement is always alert to when it is time to
swing into action.

Tactically, it is sometimes necessary to let the enemy advance deep
into your territory (in an enthusiastic rush) without resistance, so they
can be encircled when their supply lines are over-stretched.

Sarbajit

On 10/7/14, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
> To
>
> India Against Corruption
>
> The present conditions in Tamil Nadu , where mass protests have been
> organised against the conviction for Jayalalitha is a pointer for the
> shape of things to come.
>
> Similar recent incident was the protest organised against the eviction
> notice to Ajit Singh from the government bunglow, that he was occupying in
> New Delhi in an unauthorised manner.
>
> Every political leader in the country appears to maintain an army of
> sycophants who are enabled to make money or get position for themselves by
> the political power of the leader. As a matter of fact, both the
> political leader and the sycophants need each other to survive, loot and
> prosper. When these sycophants protest against the conviction or action
> against their political leader, they protest only to protect their own
> positions.
>
> Very large segment of the country men are not part of the sycophant gang.
> But they lack courage to stand against the violent behaviour of these
> elements and simply bow to their demand to shut the shops or stay away
> from work. Media, sometimes partisan , sometimes scared and most of the
> time sensational give huge publicity to such unwarranted protests and in
> the process make such protests look like genuine for a cause.
>
> One only hopes that the judges will not allow themselves to be influenced
> or coerced by such motivated protesters and they will deal with the issues
> legally.
>
> If conditions such as now in Tamil Nadu are allowed to prevail, then it
> would be extremely difficult to punish any corrupt politician in India.
> Now, here is a wake up call for anti corruption movement in the country.
>
> N.S. Venkataraman
> Nandini Voice For The Deprived
> Chennai
>

Tuesday, October 7, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe this blot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman

Ms PoonamAggarwal,
Why not empathize with Sadhvi Pragya ? Is it not fashionable for you to apply human rights to other than minorities( read MOSLEMS,Xians, Sikhs/ Jains/ Buddhists ) and of course the " LGBTs".
My contention is one need not feel ashamed to take up the victims of ," state terrorism" even if they are " Hindus".
Veteran TTK




On Monday, October 6, 2014, Devinder Chopra <ddchop47@gmail.com> wrote:
Jenab Amjad Afridi Saheb,
i live in the same world as you live. Wherever anyone is held in jail w/o any trial, within a reasonable period of time, as per the Indian penal code, and the law does not get enforced,  it is unfair and unjust.

Human Rights are we must live by -- which applies to one and all -- regardless of religion, class, caste sex or political affiliation/s.
South Asian countries are known to be suffering from impinging on the rights of citizens. 
Who knows who, what carries what kind of weight in getting fair & honourable treatment is indeed a sordid tale of bias and discrimination.
(We were driven out of Lahore, way back when our country was cut and made independent. Tragically, communal biases & forces have not ended.)

One sympathises with those who are incarcerated, wrongly and unfairly. In all such cases the system and weak or biased carry-out of our laws is to be condemned.
Having said that, nothing will change. And it is beyond my power to be of any help or sustenance, sadly. i own my singular sense of helplessness.
The world we live in demands one stays away from getting embroiled in any controversies.
Truth and all that it stands for many a time is a far off dream, of sorts.
Peace.
dev chopra in gurgaon
***     

On 5 October 2014 12:17, Amjad Afridi <afridiamjad@hotmail.com> wrote:
Shriman Devinder Chopra Sir,

Which country and which world do you live in ? 
This is the story we hear every day with thousands languishing in our Jails without trial. Provisions of the Criminal Procedure Code and Instructions of the Hon'ble Supreme Court are thrown to the wind every hour of the day. 
Without sounding Communal let me also say this only gets worse when we look at the youth from the Minority Communities. The Police Atrocities and the weak Justice Delivery System only help in alienating the Minorities further.  
I fully endorse the mail written by POONAM AGGARWAL earlier in this forum. 

JAI HIND. 

Amjad Afridi

Sent from my iPhone

On 05-Oct-2014, at 9:53 am, Devinder Chopra <ddchop47@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Respected Sri Sarbajit Roy Saheb ji,

Amazing information, you have shared, Sire! 
IF it is true that the lady has been incarcerated for 5 years, less or more,
and the case has barely begun, or not, then great injustice has been met.
We have always looked up to our judicial system, but, IF it be true, that, her
being held, is under false, or wrong pretenses then one feels cheated.
One has avoided going to Court (in a circumstance or two, personally) because 
we all are aware, that, matters/issues take anywhere between 2-5-7 years to
get sorted out! To be imprisoned the way this young lady has been is
indeed a blot that we, all Indians, suffer from today & ever more. 
The Constitution, we swear by has indeed been made a mockery of.... 
i have felt cheated and reduced in my feelings as a national of our land.
i have no leanings, right through my years, towards any political party, or
any religious 'ism' but have felt minimised, reduced and cheated as i have 
held our judicial system, in the upper echelons, with great respect.
Excuse my sharing such thoughts & feelings and have now realised why
organisations like IAC came into existence.....
Submitted with respect and a sense of great sympathy for the one hurt
the most-- who as & when released ought to get compensated.

devinder das chopra
9810338049
*** 
       

On 4 October 2014 22:19, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. Thakur

BJP under dynamic CM of MP is doing everything in its power to save
his Govt the embarrassment of having the poor lady die in a MP Govt
hospital.

Our Pavlovian barking dogs on this list may not know all the facts.

The Dewas Police has recently discovered startling new evidence that
murdered RSS pracharak Sunil Joshi (who was in hiding after allegedly
murdering 2 Cong MPs) was a liquor kingpin and made sexual advances to
the innocent Sadhvi. This allegedly outraged her rakhi brothers who
were associated with Joshi in his businesses and they formed a
conspiracy in which the poor Sadhvi was also roped in.

The National Investigative Agency has taken this new information very
seriously and is approaching the court to get Sadhvi's name deleted as
an accused. It is widely expected that if any unfortunate event occurs
to Sadhvi post her release, attempts shall be made to see the senior
Congress leadership in MP shall suffer like Congress suffered in
Chattisgarh.




On 10/4/14, devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com
<devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> Now that the government at the centre is the one who is committed not to
> appease the minorities. Now what is the problem in getting justice for
> Pragya Singh Thakur. Why is she allowed to languish in jail when she is
> innocent and needs justice. There got to be an answer for this. What is N
> moi doing to help her. and the same goes for Lt.Col. Prohit her
> co-accused.?? Devindeer
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: sanjay agrawal <sanjaynirmalagrawal@yahoo.co.in>
>>To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
>>Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 9:07 AM
>>Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe
>> thisblot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman
>>
>>
>>
>>this is for the appeasement of minority.
>>"bas ek hi ulloo kafee tha veerane gulistan karne ko
>>har shakh pe ulloo baitha tha anjaame gulista kya hota"
>>now this is the time for correction.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Saturday, 4 October 2014 10:56 AM, Shaila S <shaila62@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>pls let me know how i can help pragya ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Satya D <hitaya123@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
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>>>>
>>>>It is time BJP Government render justice to Sadhvi Pragya.   Is standing
>>>> for Hinduism her sin? If she committed any crime why was she not
>>>> convicted for six years?
>>>>
>>>>I understand her health was so destroyed that she will never be normal.
>>>> It is a tragedy it is happening in India, not country like Saudi Arabia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>For heaven sake, let us fight for justice to her.  We should register our
>>>> protest to Indian Government to stop this atrocity.   We need to reach
>>>> out to Sadhu Sant to raise voice and stop this on a Sadhu and a woman.
>>>> It is a matter of shame.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Satya
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>From: 'BaheUSA' via Hindu Association of the USA
>>>>> <hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>Date:
>   Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:11 AM
>>>>>Subject: HinduAssociationUSA *** Today, on her
>   b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya Thakur in our thoughts as we wonder if her
>
>   biggest crime was being born a Hindu in a secular country like India.
>>>>>To:
>   "hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com"
> <hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Dr. Subramanian  Swamy Today, on her b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya
>>>>> Thakur  in our thoughts as we wonder if her biggest crime was being
>>>>> born a Hindu in a  secular country like India.
>>>>>She's been  accused of orchestrating Malegaon blasts six years back.
>>>>> Proof ? Her  motorcycle (which wasn't in her possession for over a year
>>>>> and might as well  have been stolen like recent pune blasts) was
>>>>> recovered from the site leading  NIA to frame miss Pragya and led
>>>>> Chidambaram to coin a new term- 'saffron  terror'. No one wants to hear
>>>>> the fact that CBI and Maharashtra  ATS investigations have revealed the
>>>>> hand of nine 'minority community' guys  (and three absconding) behind
>>>>> this crime with the motive of triggering riots  in the area.
>>>>>ATS says it's got concrete proof against these nine guys but
>   NIA wants to prove its own contrived story by hook or by crook.
>>>>>Six years have gone without as much as a charge sheet but  Sadhvi Pragya
>>>>> languishes in the jail suffering mental and physical pain in  addition
>>>>> to various ailments she's acquired in the prison.
>>>>>And here we are, the so called majority of  India..watching in silence
>>>>> like gullible docile sheep, waiting for some  miracle to  happen.
>>>>
>>>>>Human rights  anyone?
>>>>>
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