Saturday, February 21, 2015

Re: [IAC#RG] Amartya Sen’s outburst after being denied second term

Agree with Shri Venkataraman ji and Shri Subramaniam ji.
If my memory serves me right mr sen is a noble laureate!
Just delivery of lectures is not everything.How one conducts oneself when denied is the real test.
Regards to all.

On 22 Feb 2015 01:31, "Venkatraman Ns" <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
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                                                           Amartya  Sen's  outburst  after  being  denied  second  term

 

On being denied  second term as  Chancellor of Nalanda University, Amartsya Sen has  criticised  the Modi government  and accused it of threatening the academic freedom.  Obviously,  Amartya Sen   would not have said this if he has been given a second term. His reaction sounds like that of a typical politician in India, who views any situation  considering  his personal interests.

Amartya Sen has completed his term as Chancellor of Nalanda University and his term has not been disturbed in the middle. Certainly, the government  has the duty, responsibility and authority to decide as to who should be the next chancellor and the decision need not always go in faour of incumbent. Person like Amartya Sen, a Nobel  laurete who gets lot of publicity in the Indian media , should understand this prerogative of the government.

By no stretch of imagination  , one can say that not providing a second term for the Chancellor amount to threaten the academic freedom. Certainly, there are people in India who are equally suitable or even may be more suitable than Amartya  Sen for the job and the government is entitled to examine such possibilities.

It is unfortunate that Amartya Sen has viewed the issues relating to academic freedom in India in such a restricted way such as posting of Chancellor.

It is known that Amartya Sen   has given an impression that he is a pledged critic of Narendra Modi  and his recent interview in the media not only talks about his not  being   given a second term but also highly critical remarks about Modi's governance, which is unwarranted from a person holding position as Chancellor of University.

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Re: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan attacks Kejriwal again, accuses him of accepting 'tainted money'

Kejriwal is a consummate politician. Ultimately the people of delhi are going to suffer. They eill have to contend with him for the next five years. I wish them luck.

On 22 Feb 2015 01:25, "Gopinathan Nair" <colgokulan@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends,
                     As an optimist,I congratulate Indian Citizens  for the victory of democracy.This has made the 2014 mandate of BJP and our PM  cautious. To Humble them and make them mend their ways, to be more reliable to keep up the promises which AAP too has given.In both cases there are impracticable difficult to meet dead lines.In Khejriwaljis's case,he has promised the lowest rung of society who have nothing to loose.If he fails to meet deadline,they will be out in the open to ask for an answer.In any case he will achieve some success in some areas.Let us hope for the best.Let us pray for good days ahead.Col R G Nair (Retd)

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
18/2/15

Dear Mr. Kumar,
 I am not being pessimistic but being realistic knowing the financial constraints and the outlays needed to achieve those targets.
I have been watching the progress of AAP since its inception hoping it to be a step closer to participatory democratic set up and have high expectations. There is no denying that Delhi needs more schools, colleges, hospitals Public toilets and bijli paani for the
rapidly increasing population. I  am only curious about the source of funds which you can raise either through taxation or c ental assistance. Delhi is not an exception suffering from these shortages. All metropolitan cities suffer from these shortages. Mumbai has much bigger population living in slums worse than the life in unautorised colonies of Delhi. But the people pay more for electricity and other civic services Kolkatta is equally in dire need of resources.
I consider Delhi elections as a watershed event and its success or failure will have far reaching consequences.It is for this reason I hope that AAP should have deliverable targets. For this reason I am looking forward to budgets the State and the Centre.
Regds
JKGaur 

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Dear Shri J K Gaur, Your sense of time is baffling as you are distributing our targets statistically. Believe in a positive future of Delhi residents with needed schools, hospitals, toilets, CCTV and Pani-Bijli. Do not get so pessimistic. AAP is a party of concerned and intelligent citizens. They are not professional politicians engaged in Jumlebaji. Regards, Anand Kumar 
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Re: [IAC#RG] Conference Invite

Hello:
It is very unfortunate that you send this announcement at the end of Feb. How do you expect to submit a good abstract within a week? Most of the International Conferences are organized at least 6 months or a year in advance. If you would be kind to extend the deadline for submission of the abstract until March 10, I might be able to reflect and submit a short abstract.

So, please respond asap.

ikp

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Rashid Shaz <futureislam@gmail.com> wrote:

Intellectual Crises of the Muslim Ummah

Rethinking Traditional Solutions
_______

امتِ مسلمہ کا فکری بحران:

روایتی طرزِفکرکا محاکمہ

 

 

 

The CENTER FOR THE PROMOTION OF EDUCATIONAL AND CULTURAL ADVANCEMENT OF MUSLIMS IN INDIA (CPECAMI)

Aligarh Muslim University, Aligarh, India



Call for Paper Proposals



Deadline for submitting paper proposals: 

05 March, 2015


 

FIRST HIGH PROFILE INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE

Monday & Tuesday, March 30-31, 2015

Aligarh, India


The CPECAMI is pleased to announce that it will be holding its First High Profile International Conference in Aligarh, India on  March 30-31, 2015.  The main theme of this conference will be "Intellectual Crises of the Muslim Ummah: Rethinking Traditional Solutions".

O
ver 100-150 international experts, religious scholars, public intellectuals, and peace activists are expected to attend this 2-day conclave, from Aligarh and from outside Aligarh, to shed light on the main issues and challenges facing the Ummah today, and to discuss lessons learned from previously though-out solutions. The conference will last two days, and registration is required.  A list of invited speakers, and a more detailed program will be announced by the mid of March.

Paper proposals are invited from prospective participants on the following four broad questions related to the main conference theme.  Papers can be presented either in English or Urdu. Prospective presenters are also welcome to submit papers that fall outside these topics, but must establish their relevance to the broader conference theme:

I. What is Islam and who speaks for it today? An Assessment based on the Quranic Text.

 

II. Is a Unified Islam Possible?

III. Does Islam need a Reform, or we just need new interpreters?
IV. Can Muslims lead a conglomeration of faith communities?  Implications of Kalmae siwa.

Paper proposals (no more than 250 words) are Due by 05 March, 2015 and should be sent in either English or Urdu to:

Conference Program Committee

E-mail: futureislam@gmail.com

 
Authors of accepted proposals will be notified by March 08, 2015.


All participants, panelists, and speakers must cover their own travel expenses. The CEPCAMI will provide accommodation and local hospitality during the conference. Speakers and panelists (only) coming from outside Aligarh will receive a token amount of Rs. 3,000 to 5,000 to help defray travel expenses.

Contact:

RASHID SHAZ

Professor & Director

Center for the Promotion of Educational & Cultural Advancement of Muslims of India

Opposite University Post-Office,
Aligarh Muslim University,
Aligarh, India
Telephone:+91-571-2701145
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[IAC#RG] Amartya Sen’s outburst after being denied second term

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                                                           Amartya  Sen's  outburst  after  being  denied  second  term

 

On being denied  second term as  Chancellor of Nalanda University, Amartsya Sen has  criticised  the Modi government  and accused it of threatening the academic freedom.  Obviously,  Amartya Sen   would not have said this if he has been given a second term. His reaction sounds like that of a typical politician in India, who views any situation  considering  his personal interests.

Amartya Sen has completed his term as Chancellor of Nalanda University and his term has not been disturbed in the middle. Certainly, the government  has the duty, responsibility and authority to decide as to who should be the next chancellor and the decision need not always go in faour of incumbent. Person like Amartya Sen, a Nobel  laurete who gets lot of publicity in the Indian media , should understand this prerogative of the government.

By no stretch of imagination  , one can say that not providing a second term for the Chancellor amount to threaten the academic freedom. Certainly, there are people in India who are equally suitable or even may be more suitable than Amartya  Sen for the job and the government is entitled to examine such possibilities.

It is unfortunate that Amartya Sen has viewed the issues relating to academic freedom in India in such a restricted way such as posting of Chancellor.

It is known that Amartya Sen   has given an impression that he is a pledged critic of Narendra Modi  and his recent interview in the media not only talks about his not  being   given a second term but also highly critical remarks about Modi's governance, which is unwarranted from a person holding position as Chancellor of University.

N.S.Venkataraman

Nandini Voice For The Deprived

nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com

twitter : @nsvchennai

 

 

 

 

Friday, February 20, 2015

[IAC#RG] Conference Invite

Intellectual Crises of the Muslim Ummah

Rethinking Traditional Solutions
_______

امتِ مسلمہ کا فکری بحران:

روایتی طرزِفکرکا محاکمہ

 

 

 

The CENTER FOR THE PROMOTION OF EDUCATIONAL AND CULTURAL ADVANCEMENT OF MUSLIMS IN INDIA (CPECAMI)

Aligarh Muslim University, Aligarh, India



Call for Paper Proposals



Deadline for submitting paper proposals: 

05 March, 2015


 

FIRST HIGH PROFILE INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE

Monday & Tuesday, March 30-31, 2015

Aligarh, India


The CPECAMI is pleased to announce that it will be holding its First High Profile International Conference in Aligarh, India on  March 30-31, 2015.  The main theme of this conference will be "Intellectual Crises of the Muslim Ummah: Rethinking Traditional Solutions".

O
ver 100-150 international experts, religious scholars, public intellectuals, and peace activists are expected to attend this 2-day conclave, from Aligarh and from outside Aligarh, to shed light on the main issues and challenges facing the Ummah today, and to discuss lessons learned from previously though-out solutions. The conference will last two days, and registration is required.  A list of invited speakers, and a more detailed program will be announced by the mid of March.

Paper proposals are invited from prospective participants on the following four broad questions related to the main conference theme.  Papers can be presented either in English or Urdu. Prospective presenters are also welcome to submit papers that fall outside these topics, but must establish their relevance to the broader conference theme:

I. What is Islam and who speaks for it today? An Assessment based on the Quranic Text.

 

II. Is a Unified Islam Possible?

III. Does Islam need a Reform, or we just need new interpreters?
IV. Can Muslims lead a conglomeration of faith communities?  Implications of Kalmae siwa.

Paper proposals (no more than 250 words) are Due by 05 March, 2015 and should be sent in either English or Urdu to:

Conference Program Committee

E-mail: futureislam@gmail.com

 
Authors of accepted proposals will be notified by March 08, 2015.


All participants, panelists, and speakers must cover their own travel expenses. The CEPCAMI will provide accommodation and local hospitality during the conference. Speakers and panelists (only) coming from outside Aligarh will receive a token amount of Rs. 3,000 to 5,000 to help defray travel expenses.

Contact:

RASHID SHAZ

Professor & Director

Center for the Promotion of Educational & Cultural Advancement of Muslims of India

Opposite University Post-Office,
Aligarh Muslim University,
Aligarh, India
Telephone:+91-571-2701145
futureislam@gmail.com

RE: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan attacks Kejriwal again, accuses him of accepting 'tainted money'

FYI, pls.
This was published in Lokmat yesterday.
Raikar


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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:26:22 +0530
Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan attacks Kejriwal again, accuses him of accepting 'tainted money'

18/2/15

Dear Mr. Kumar,
 I am not being pessimistic but being realistic knowing the financial constraints and the outlays needed to achieve those targets.
I have been watching the progress of AAP since its inception hoping it to be a step closer to participatory democratic set up and have high expectations. There is no denying that Delhi needs more schools, colleges, hospitals Public toilets and bijli paani for the
rapidly increasing population. I  am only curious about the source of funds which you can raise either through taxation or c ental assistance. Delhi is not an exception suffering from these shortages. All metropolitan cities suffer from these shortages. Mumbai has much bigger population living in slums worse than the life in unautorised colonies of Delhi. But the people pay more for electricity and other civic services Kolkatta is equally in dire need of resources.
I consider Delhi elections as a watershed event and its success or failure will have far reaching consequences.It is for this reason I hope that AAP should have deliverable targets. For this reason I am looking forward to budgets the State and the Centre.
Regds
JKGaur 

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:30:09 +0000
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan attacks Kejriwal again, accuses him of accepting 'tainted money'

Dear Shri J K Gaur, Your sense of time is baffling as you are distributing our targets statistically. Believe in a positive future of Delhi residents with needed schools, hospitals, toilets, CCTV and Pani-Bijli. Do not get so pessimistic. AAP is a party of concerned and intelligent citizens. They are not professional politicians engaged in Jumlebaji. Regards, Anand Kumar 
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Thursday, February 19, 2015

RE: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan attacks Kejriwal again, accuses him of accepting 'tainted money'

 One thing I believe is that getting elected by promises of giving free water electricity food house free money etc at cost of others are all by no means less than bribing. They see their own benefits for giving votes and if they don't get them with in a reasonable time can throw them. Governance is not promises. What we need is good governance which is not easy in a country where practically all are for their own interests. Some leaders give their people opportunities to make money to have their support by legitimate ways. Some may follow nonlegitimate ways if opportunity for legitimate ways is not there. Some may become followers for even for small favours. All above means utilising the power to divert benefits to those who give them votes.  Naturally some one else is a looser. 
I wonder how our citizens of 21st century give support to such Gimmicks adopted by leaders to be in power. when some leader governs with great principles dispassionate without favouring any group and for the good of the country (hypothetical statement since in our country such leaders can't exist - so please moderate it as 'comparatively better.' ) considering even the others who have not given vote, will our selfish attitude allow them to be in power.  Everyone asks what good for me by such people in power. Recently we have seen two great victories. Let us see.  They have been brought to power for they promised to give something which suited majority . Will the promise given be met. Even if not met can they succeed to be in power some way or other. 
Another important question is what happens to those minority groups who do not get benefited. Should they suffer for ever throughout their rule. Is it just? I don't really understand what we can expect from these leaders elected by citizens who are easily bought by promises. Better let us  hope for the best. We know our country is great and can grow at least in population the strength on which we are recognised by the world.  Verghese 



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18/2/15

Dear Mr. Kumar,
 I am not being pessimistic but being realistic knowing the financial constraints and the outlays needed to achieve those targets.
I have been watching the progress of AAP since its inception hoping it to be a step closer to participatory democratic set up and have high expectations. There is no denying that Delhi needs more schools, colleges, hospitals Public toilets and bijli paani for the
rapidly increasing population. I  am only curious about the source of funds which you can raise either through taxation or c ental assistance. Delhi is not an exception suffering from these shortages. All metropolitan cities suffer from these shortages. Mumbai has much bigger population living in slums worse than the life in unautorised colonies of Delhi. But the people pay more for electricity and other civic services Kolkatta is equally in dire need of resources.
I consider Delhi elections as a watershed event and its success or failure will have far reaching consequences.It is for this reason I hope that AAP should have deliverable targets. For this reason I am looking forward to budgets the State and the Centre.
Regds
JKGaur 

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:30:09 +0000
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan attacks Kejriwal again, accuses him of accepting 'tainted money'

Dear Shri J K Gaur, Your sense of time is baffling as you are distributing our targets statistically. Believe in a positive future of Delhi residents with needed schools, hospitals, toilets, CCTV and Pani-Bijli. Do not get so pessimistic. AAP is a party of concerned and intelligent citizens. They are not professional politicians engaged in Jumlebaji. Regards, Anand Kumar 
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Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: EVM paper trails

Respected sir/ mam
I am once again here with a new short movie.
we have witnessed communal riots in india..Here we have made a short movie on youtube against communal haterd. Movie aims at awaring people against fascism and communalism..it is about hindu muslim unity. we students of JAMIA MILLIA ISLAMIA ALONG WITH STUDENTS OF FTII PUNE AND IIT KHARAGPUR joined here for this movie . I Will be happy if you can give us feedback ... without your support we can spread our message.. youtube link i m atttaching here.

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:44 PM, pushpa vijula <pvijula@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello Mr Roy : u r saying Mr Subramanuum Swamy is a CIA Man n Medha Patkar, AK : r being funded by the Ford foundn. What is ur view : on Mr N modi. N there have bin end no. Of meetings w the Election Commnr. U mean the electronic machine can Still b easily rigged. I know that the counting can b manipulated.ie. For a 100/- it vl show 1000/-
That should b taken care of with all the watch bodies.or is that half done too ? plse clear the fog.thx.pushpa

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To: Harendra Singh <har..@yahoo.com>

IAC is not working with Maulik Bharat on this. We are 2 separate entities.

EVMs are quire simple to manipulate, so there is no question of IAC
taking it up with EC. There is a lot of disinformation on this by being
spread by Dr. Subramaniam Swamy and his CIA circus.

Printout trail will not make a difference, one way or the other. More
disinfo by Swamy and foreign friends.

Paper slips are not needed by established votebanks. We have other
(far simpler) methods.

On 3/4/14, Harendra Singh <harendra_singh@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It is understood that IAC & Maulik Bharat have been taking up various
> election related issues with CEC. There was also a discussion on the
> possibility of voting machines being tempered with. It was stated that any
> manipulation of machines will be taken care of by issueing a printed
> slip/paper trail, indicating the party to which vote has been registered,
> to the voter. However such an arrangment can have other problems.
> It is well known that parties pay cash to voters, however in the absence of
> any proof the voter can still vote for his choice of candidate if he so
> desires, once the paper slips indicating the party for which the vote has
> been registered are issued, then parties will obviously demand slips and
> then make the payment. In other words selling the vote will be more
> practical and reliable. In any case since the data in machine chips can be
> manipulated remotely after machines are sealed such paper trails will serve
> no purpose.
> It is therefor suggested that Election Commission be approached and
> requested to refrain from issueing any slip, counterfoil, paper trail  or
> whatso ever which indicates the party to which vote has been registered.
>  Harendra Singh

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Wednesday, February 18, 2015

Re: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan attacks Kejriwal again, accuses him of accepting 'tainted money'

Dear Friends,
                     As an optimist,I congratulate Indian Citizens  for the victory of democracy.This has made the 2014 mandate of BJP and our PM  cautious. To Humble them and make them mend their ways, to be more reliable to keep up the promises which AAP too has given.In both cases there are impracticable difficult to meet dead lines.In Khejriwaljis's case,he has promised the lowest rung of society who have nothing to loose.If he fails to meet deadline,they will be out in the open to ask for an answer.In any case he will achieve some success in some areas.Let us hope for the best.Let us pray for good days ahead.Col R G Nair (Retd)

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
18/2/15

Dear Mr. Kumar,
 I am not being pessimistic but being realistic knowing the financial constraints and the outlays needed to achieve those targets.
I have been watching the progress of AAP since its inception hoping it to be a step closer to participatory democratic set up and have high expectations. There is no denying that Delhi needs more schools, colleges, hospitals Public toilets and bijli paani for the
rapidly increasing population. I  am only curious about the source of funds which you can raise either through taxation or c ental assistance. Delhi is not an exception suffering from these shortages. All metropolitan cities suffer from these shortages. Mumbai has much bigger population living in slums worse than the life in unautorised colonies of Delhi. But the people pay more for electricity and other civic services Kolkatta is equally in dire need of resources.
I consider Delhi elections as a watershed event and its success or failure will have far reaching consequences.It is for this reason I hope that AAP should have deliverable targets. For this reason I am looking forward to budgets the State and the Centre.
Regds
JKGaur 

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:30:09 +0000
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan attacks Kejriwal again, accuses him of accepting 'tainted money'


Dear Shri J K Gaur, Your sense of time is baffling as you are distributing our targets statistically. Believe in a positive future of Delhi residents with needed schools, hospitals, toilets, CCTV and Pani-Bijli. Do not get so pessimistic. AAP is a party of concerned and intelligent citizens. They are not professional politicians engaged in Jumlebaji. Regards, Anand Kumar 
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Col R G Nair

Tuesday, February 17, 2015

RE: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan attacks Kejriwal again, accuses him of accepting 'tainted money'

18/2/15

Dear Mr. Kumar,
 I am not being pessimistic but being realistic knowing the financial constraints and the outlays needed to achieve those targets.
I have been watching the progress of AAP since its inception hoping it to be a step closer to participatory democratic set up and have high expectations. There is no denying that Delhi needs more schools, colleges, hospitals Public toilets and bijli paani for the
rapidly increasing population. I  am only curious about the source of funds which you can raise either through taxation or c ental assistance. Delhi is not an exception suffering from these shortages. All metropolitan cities suffer from these shortages. Mumbai has much bigger population living in slums worse than the life in unautorised colonies of Delhi. But the people pay more for electricity and other civic services Kolkatta is equally in dire need of resources.
I consider Delhi elections as a watershed event and its success or failure will have far reaching consequences.It is for this reason I hope that AAP should have deliverable targets. For this reason I am looking forward to budgets the State and the Centre.
Regds
JKGaur 

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:30:09 +0000
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan attacks Kejriwal again, accuses him of accepting 'tainted money'

Dear Shri J K Gaur, Your sense of time is baffling as you are distributing our targets statistically. Believe in a positive future of Delhi residents with needed schools, hospitals, toilets, CCTV and Pani-Bijli. Do not get so pessimistic. AAP is a party of concerned and intelligent citizens. They are not professional politicians engaged in Jumlebaji. Regards, Anand Kumar 
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Monday, February 16, 2015

RE: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan attacks Kejriwal again, accuses him of accepting 'tainted money'

Thanks for reading my comment after it passed through the eye of the needle. May be some time it does not pass for various reason. I do not know any politician who has fulfilled all his promises in timely manner. Why should I think that Kejriwal is going to be an exception. Modi has yet to find any thing wrong done by Sonia let alone jail her for emptying the Indian treasury and stacking the money overseas.
 
Only way Kejriwal got 67 out of 70 because Delhites didn't like Modi's attitude for some reason. That means just like politicians, voters also know to take revenge. It is just a matter of time when the same revenge will turn towards Kejriwal if he exhibits bad attitude. Let's not get caught in the net of politicians number game play, just maintain the pressure on them so they do their job sincerely.
 
Kumar Arun
 

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:17:49 +0530
Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan attacks Kejriwal again, accuses him of accepting 'tainted money'

15/2/15

Mr. Kumar Arun,
The very fact your comments have been posted shows there is no bias against you or any other NRIs. The trouble is you are far removed from the ground realities.  Every once wishes Kejriwal the very best. But if wishes were horses,everyone would ride them. If you look at the promises he has made to the voters, it is going to be an uphill task.
Promise to open 500 schools in 5 years means 100 schools every year i.e. 1 school in 3.65 days.
Promise to open 20 colleges would mean one college every 3 months. Mind you the land for the school and colleges have yet to found and allocated.
15 lacs CCTV  would mean one CCTV every 2 minutes.
20000 public toilets would mean 4000 every year 13 toilets every day.
All this he has promised after 50% cut in electric tariff, free water supply tax reduction and wifi facility.
For all this from where he will get the funds. Let us wait for the budget.
JKGaur


Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 04:14:06 +0530
From: rbpurohit4productivity@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan attacks Kejriwal again, accuses him of accepting 'tainted money'

Interesting.
A man who was found to be unfit for public administration in the first place and some how accommodated in IRS by Meera's father  is now expected to shift the paradigm.
Let's wait and see what he does with his tainted MLAs named by the FOUNDER Shanti Bhushanji.

On 15 Feb 2015 00:04, "Kumar Arun" <kumar2786@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Fellow Bharatiya,
 
I am not one of the liked individuals in this particular group, not sure the moderator Mr. Sarabjit Roy even allow this message to reach others. In any case, all of us must recognize the single handed efforts of an ordinary man who has shaken the ground of seasoned politicians of all the parties in India. Needless to mention that most popular Modi, PM of India, must be having second thoughts on his arrogance and aspersion he threw to a new kid, Arvind  in the politicians crowd. As long as same arrogance does not invade the brain of Kejriwal and his loyal party men, there is a fair chance that he will change the course of politics in India.
 
Respectfully,
 
Dr. Kumar Arun
 

Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 08:53:08 +0530
From: dreksingh@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan attacks Kejriwal again, accuses him of accepting 'tainted money'

Dear All

Do you think AAP will last?
If so for how long?
Will they be able to implement just 20% of what they promised ?
What will be the future of Congress (I)
under the Gandhi leadership ?
Delhi election results will be end of BJP ?
What India needs today?
Dr K S Elangbam
Shillong

Dear Bhatia ji

Please find links to actual speech by Thomas Babington Macaulay
(1800-1859) in 1833 and 1833.

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00generallinks/macaulay/txt_commons_indiagovt_1833.html
http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00generallinks/macaulay/txt_minute_education_1835.html

Really it is true that some horses are more intelligent when they have
good jockeys

Accordingly, every IACian should read these statements by Macaulay so
that by using Macaulay's gift to India we can exercise the whip
'chabook' on all these vultures posing as racehorses. With your
blessings IAC shall strive to attain Pyramid structure and direct
democracy.

Jai Hind
Sarbajit

On 2/12/15, Nakul stud <nakulstud@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> '''THATS GREAT ! True democracy but caught in THE VICIOUS CIRCLE OF
> POLITICS- a system of, by and for tics !
> LET SHANTI JI BE FIRMLY COMMITTED TO SWARAJ, THEN WE WILL HAVE SELECTION OF
> OUR COUNCILS.
> IMGINE WHERE WE WILL BE, IF ONLY 10% of what we all are spending on
> elections can instead, be spent on fighting TERROR & development, we will be
> living inHeaven on earth,as was our living stated by Macaulay to British
> parliament on 2.2.1935 .
> HOW CAN WE UNITE UNDER A SYSTEM THAT DIVIDES US INTO PARTS AND PARTIES ?
> Unity and partyvad are self contradictory !
> Life has come a full circle. The world is adopting our wisdom. Time we WENT
> BACK TO our PYRAMID system of utilising everyone's WISE COUNCIL FROM
> VILLAGE, town TO NATIONAL LEVEL.
>  modiji will change the system and not vice-versa. Till now all Political
> Leaders have fallen prey to Politics! The West Minister, sinister system
> designed to make tics of all who want to clean public life and partyvad,
> that divides & Poisions every Heart are a curse of the free world.
> We deserve real democracy of, by and for the people from village,town level
> right to the top. Strong like a MOUNTAIN with a PYRAMID SHAPE.''
> Sent from my iPhone

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RE: [IAC#RG] Fw: [Right-to-Info-2005] Prime Minister Mr Narendra Modi - Does Constitution of India Permit Mr SK Roy Chairman LIC Stop the Payment of Pension at his Whims & Fancy?

              To Whom It May Concern

If the claim Mr. B.D.Vaghela is making on this public forum, is true then the fight for justice will follow. Neither local, state or central government or LIC, have any right to intimidate a law abiding citizen. In addition, it does not matter whether Mr. Vaghela is a law abiding citizen or not LIC must satisfy its obligations as well basic duty to it's insured as per contract.

Dr. Kumar Arun
India Heritage Foundation
Michigan (USA)
Feb. 16, 2015



Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:48:16 +0530
From: sroy1947@gmail.com
To: tn.jha@licindia.com; vaghelabd@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fw: [Right-to-Info-2005] Prime Minister Mr Narendra Modi - Does Constitution of India Permit Mr SK Roy Chairman LIC Stop the Payment of Pension at his Whims & Fancy?

Dear Mr. Jha

Thanks for your email. I have perused it along with the trail mails
appended therein.

1) I had written to you as Honorary National Convenor of "India
Against Corruption" jan andolan - a social service body - after
receiving several emails from Mr. Babubhai Vaghela sent to me and
several other eminent persons whom Mr. Vaghela regularly corresponds
with. Mr. Vaghela is Hony. Chairman of IAC's sub-Committee on Ethics
in Governance

2) Mr. Vaghela is an eminent RTI activist of India. As a law abiding
citizen of India, he wants to know the RULE / basis under which his
pension was stopped without notice by a public authority, ie. LIC.
When no proper explanation was given by LIC, Mr. Vaghela was
constrained to write to the Hon'ble PM and to myself. If there is a
proper basis for seeking the Existence Certificate surely LIC can
provide Mr. Vaghela a copy of the notification or order.

3) There has also been a systematic series of attempts by
anti-national forces and foreigners to attack India Against
Corruption's senior leaders with a view to silence them. As a matter
of prudence IAC promptly reports all such incidents to the concerned
agencies for their record.

4) We hope that LIC shall properly justify to Mr. Vaghela its actions
so that his pension is resumed immediately. You shall find that Mr.
Vaghela is a cooperative personality and a Senior Manager of IOC who
had always stood by rules and regulations and working within the
system to ensure there are no leakages. At the same time senior
citizens should not be harassed unduly or made to run from pillar to
post.

Sincerely

Sarbajit Roy
National Convenor
India Against Corruption jan andolan
B-59, Defence Colony
New Delhi 110024

Tel : +91-8010205897
http://www.indiaagainstcorruption.org.in

On 2/16/15, TN JHA <tn.jha@licindia.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Shri Sarabjit Roy,
>
> With regard to the annuity matter of Sh Babubhai Vaghela, our central office
>
> has directed me to meet you to know in what capacity you are writing mail to
>
> us .Please inform the address along with your personal details where we can
>
> meet you & please also let us know your connection with Mr Vaghela.
>
> Regards,
>
> T N Jha
> Divisional Manager (P&GS)
> LIC of India
> Jeevan Prakash, 6th Floor
> 25 K G Marg, New Delhi.
> Mobile: 9999631266
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "co_pgsanty" <co_pgsanty@licindia.com>
> To: "TN.Jha(233616)" <TN.Jha@licindia.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 2:03 PM
> Subject: FW: [Right-to-Info-2005] Prime Minister Mr Narendra Modi - Does
> Constitution of India Permit Mr SK Roy Chairman LIC Stop the Payment of
> Pension at his Whims & Fancy?
>
>
>> Shri Jha,
>>
>> Kindly go through the trialing mail from Shri Sarabjit Roy.
>>
>> We propose that you meet Shri Roy to ascertain on what capacity he is
>> writing this mail.
>> We do not know the profile of the person. You can write email to him to
>> meet you. You are advised to verify his credentials and his interest in
>> this case. If satisfactory, you can appraise him the grievance and
>> remedial action taken at our end.
>>
>> For your information, we have already responded by letter and we insisted
>>
>> on getting Existence Certificate from the annuitant. Copy of the
>> communication sent to annuitant is attached.
>>
>> Executive Director (P&GS)
>>
>> पे. एवं स. बी. यो. कें. का .
>> Annuity Desk, P&GS, C.O.
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Sarbajit Roy [sroy1947@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Right-to-Info-2005] Prime Minister Mr Narendra Modi - Does
>> Constitution of India Permit Mr SK Roy Chairman LIC Stop the Payment of
>> Pension at his Whims & Fancy?
>>
>> To:
>> 1) Rajesh Suvera Cyber Crime Ahmedabad <rajeshsuvera@gmail.com>,
>> 2) Manubhai Rohit Cyber Crime Cell Ahmedabad <cybercell.manu@hotmail.com>
>>
>> Dear Sirs,
>>
>> URGENT
>>
>> Please act on the appended email sent to you very recently from Mr.
>> Babubhai Vaghela, senior citizen r/o Ahmedabad, and register any
>> appropriate FIR under Sections 66 and 67 of IT Act 2000-08 r/w Indian
>> Penal Code and without burking.
>>
>> I have received about 6 diverse emails from Mr. Vaghela which are
>> CC'ed to many of India's eminences on this topic, so clearly this
>> matter needs to be fully investigated. .
>>
>> Victim is
>> Babubhai Vaghela
>> C 202, Shrinandnagar V, Makarba Road Vejalpur,
>> Ahmedabad - 380051 M - 94276 08632
>>
>> From what I can decipher from here, it seems that some persons have
>> hacked Mr. Vaghela's Pension account seemingly by impersonating as SK
>> Roy, Chairman of LIC. If so, kindly also notify CERT-IN that LIC
>> computer systems / SBI computer systems have been hacked. These are
>> surely notified as protected national computer resources.u/s 78 ?? IT
>> Act
>>
>> A scanned copy of the FIR u/s 154 CrPC r/w Guj. / Bombay Police Rules
>> may kindly be provided to me for my records, as this appears to be 1
>> in a series of cyber incidents committed by foreign hackers directed
>> at India Against Corruption's senior leaders to silence their speech.
>> FYI, Mr. Vaghela is Chairman of IACs sub-Committee on Ethics in
>> Governance.
>>
>> Yours faithfully
>> Sarbajit Roy
>> Defence Colony
>> New Delhi 110024
>>
>> On 2/13/15, Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Dear Narendrabhai,
>>>
>>> During the last eight years, *I have been getting my monthly permanently
>>> fixed, not linked to cost of living / not linked to inflation, pension
>>> from
>>> Indian Oil Corporation through LIC of India at my Saving Bank Account
>>> via
>>> ECS in the State Bank of India Branch at Ahmedabad.*
>>>
>>> Suddenly, without any notice, that has been stopped by Mr SK Roy
>>> Chairman
>>> LIC.
>>>
>>> In this regard, *my plain and simple query is about the provision in the
>>> Constitution of India that Empower Mr SK Roy Chairman LIC to stop
>>> payment
>>> of my monthly pension. *
>>>
>>> Please let me know.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> --
>>> (Babubhai Vaghela)
>>> C 202, Shrinandnagar V, Makarba Road Vejalpur,
>>> Ahmedabad - 380051 M - 94276 08632
>>> Google.com/+BabubhaiVaghela
>>>
>>>
>>> http://twitter.com/BabubhaiVaghela
>>>
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>
> "The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to
> this message are intended for exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may
> contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended
> recipient, please notify the sender at LIC OF INDIA or
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[IAC#RG] future of AAP : Crystal gazing !!

Dear all,
  I feel AAP is there to stay, why...:-
> Vacuum created by the demise of INC. Our country is truly diversified , where voters have been aligned on party lines for decades.Notwithstanding caste , religious & some undesirable inducements as the considerations,which have generally been the basis of such party alignments; a core group of voters have developed party loyalties. With the gradual loss of faith in its leadership at local, mid and national , et all levels;  the committed voters of INC are afloat. The left as a group, but for its trade unions' members, has lost much of relevance with the voters. BJP still remains , for right or wrong reasons, unacceptable to many voters. The regional parties enjoy caste,regional or linguistic loyalties. Under such a voter options scenario, AAP has offered  a refreshingly cleaner platform with hope for the urban middle class, lower middle & the urban toiling masses to make their lives more bearable. It may be recalled how Indira's Garibi Hatao bogey got her in power with the votes of this very lot & some floater groups .  In other words AAP may be the manifestation of CONGRESS mukt BHARAT future !!

>Youthful Population. The 60 percent under 35 yrs population is definitely more enthused with the leadership & pronouncements of AAP than other parties. If properly utilised , this voter segment may form the mainstay of AAP for a decade or more.

>New Faces & Growing Outfit .It is a great motivating factor for fresh entrants to see new faces rise rapidly the ladder of success.  This is an asset till lack of experience of administration or mis management grounds the momentum , in favour of more experienced hands.

>A National Alternative good for our Democracy. From multi party coalition national scenario , coming to 'a no opposition party/ leader' situation may not be good for democracy. AAP has the potential to take the bow , provided the arrogance & the corrupt practices ; that have endemically got associated with political success( ala INC,AIADMK, DMK,BSP, SP,TMC, Akalis, BJP etc ....) are avoided.

















Re: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan attacks Kejriwal again, accuses him of accepting 'tainted money'

Dear Shri J K Gaur, Your sense of time is baffling as you are distributing our targets statistically. Believe in a positive future of Delhi residents with needed schools, hospitals, toilets, CCTV and Pani-Bijli. Do not get so pessimistic. AAP is a party of concerned and intelligent citizens. They are not professional politicians engaged in Jumlebaji. Regards, Anand Kumar
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Re: [IAC#RG] BJP deserves to lose tomorrow in Delhi

You are right . Here we are talking elimination of corruption in day to day life where common man is suffering. 
We may have to bring ACCOUNTABILITY , RESPONSIBILITY AND TRANSPARENCY in our governing system where it should be applicable to every one down the line from Minister to the lowest person in the rung. 
It is the bureaucracy which has been breeding corruption in every matter. The system has to control them. 
Can you believe that to get the Service Tax Number by a registered company , even through on line , one has to bribe . Whereas it can be finished in no time if they link it to CORPORATE IDENTIFICATION NUMBER granted by REGISTRAR OF COMPANIES. 

The concerned department has not done deliberately so far .

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On Feb 15, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Pranab Kumar Chakravarty <pranabkumar.chakravarty@gmail.com> wrote:

Is it possible to root out corruption ? it is not possible. it can be reduced to some extent .politicians of all hues fool the people by branding their rivals corrupt .can those who repeatedly announce from rooftops that they WILL  NOT ACCEPT OR GIVE DOWRY ,TREAT THEIR DAUGHTER-IN-LAWS AS THEIR DAUGHTERS? Corruption continues over centuries across the world including India.Some politicians try to become heroes by ANNOUNCING THEY WILL ROOT OUT CORRUPTION.Was not one of the 12 direct disciples of Lord Christ betrayed him by accepting bribe? How the British entered India and captured it ? Can you forget how the East India Company defeated the Indians at the battle of Plassey in  MURSHIDABAD district of Bengal and other parts of India? How they had remained in power for 200 years and crushed all agitations by bribing our own Indians? 
CAN A POLITICIAN PLEDGE HE WILL NOT ACCEPT DONATION FROM A CORPORATE OR A BUSINESSMAN? WHY THEY ARE AFTER SCHOOLS ACCEPTING DONATION? POLITICAL PARTIES REQUIRE FUNDS AND POLITICIANS NEED MONEY FOR EVER INCREASING ELECTION EXPENDITURE AND TO MAINTAIN SUPPORTERS DURING AND AFTER ELECTIONS.Where the money will come from ?
So please do not make false pledge in PUBLIC TO ELIMINATE CORRUPTION IN FIVE YEARS.


On 14 February 2015 at 13:21, abhishek pruseth <abhishek.pruseth@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Team,

The outcome of great results at Delhi will definitely be worth watching this time. 
But the question that kicks now is, Sky high promises need the same amount of fuel to be fulfilled.
All those leaders, who dont have a criminal record need to perform very high.
The great diiference between '''Party ideology'' at Centre and State(Delhi) will be the catalyst for LS Polls 2019.


Sincerely,

Abhishek P

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:35 PM, arun joshi <colarun.joshi@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear John
Let him govern. He has to reciprocate the magnanimity of the people of Delhi. He also owes to the Dubai donors. Even God cannot cross their path.
Let us wish him luck

On 13 Feb 2015 12:11, "John Williams" <jfhope1@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Col Mehta

Here is  a suggestion for CM Delhi , Mr Kejriwal to start with abolishing Corruption from Income Tax  Deptt  since he is supposed to know IN & OUTS of Income Tax and being  Ex IRS and Asstt Commissioner , I T .

With best wishes

John F Williams
Social Activist


Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 21:13:33 +0530
From: kayess121@hotmail.com
To: rocky9550@yahoo.com; rnmalhotra_in@yahoo.com; indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] BJP deserves to lose tomorrow in Delhi

Don't judge him so negatively, he has to do well, abusive language of PM was his determination

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On ravindra malhotra <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>, 11 Feb 2015 20:13 wrote:

He has proved all of you wrong. BJP called him names as also indicated below and suffered the consequences.
 
R.N.Malhotra
Former Chairman Railway Board


From: Rakesh Asthana <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] BJP deserves to lose tomorrow in Delhi

Totally  disagree. I think Kejriwal is an opportunist who had the PMs chair in his dreams when he became a "Bhagoda" dishing the Delhi janta in 49 days flat. This man is just a con artist.


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Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 6:37 AM
Subject: [IAC#RG] BJP deserves to lose tomorrow in Delhi

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/win-or-lose-modi-and-shah-should-learn-from-their-mistakes-in-delhi-polls-2083355.html

Takeaway:
"A triumphant Kejriwal will be a problem; a wounded Kejriwal will be
as dangerous. Kejriwal is an astute power player. He should never be
underestimated. He is a megalomaniac posing as a humble leader. It
works for him.

A BJP win does not mean all mistakes should be forgotten. That would
be the biggest mistake Modi and Shah can make."

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