Hum Janenge: 11/21/10

Saturday, November 27, 2010

Re: [HumJanenge] URGENT: volunteers needed for sting operation

II JAIGURUDEV II, II NAMO BUDHAYA II, II OM VANDE MAATRAM II

Dear Mr Pancholi !

I am academician as well as social worker/activist of Gandhian Principle. I have been fighting against corruption. I have been media activist but do not have the exposure of sting operation. I am proud of you to offer support for sting operation. This is the need of hour. I need your support but want to know the terms & condition as well as expenses to be occurred in the sting operation.

Please send your mobile / cell nos. also.

Sincerely Yours:-

DR.V.D.SHARMA "Krantiveer"(Gandhian Thinker)

Associate Professor in MBA(Bus.Economics)

Faculty of Management Studies

VBS Purvanchal University Jaunpur (U.P.)

Mob.991983533,E-mail: e-mail:drvds59@gmail.com

--- On Sat, 27/11/10, Ravindra Pancholi <pancholi.ravindra@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Ravindra Pancholi <pancholi.ravindra@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] URGENT: volunteers needed for sting operation
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 27 November, 2010, 9:18 PM

being a part of media I can be very helpful to you.
I am ready.

Ravindra Pancholi

On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Murali Krishnan <rti4citizens@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear friends

I am overwhelmed with the support I have received from Humjanenge group members.
I want to reply personally to everyone but since there are about 200 replies to me I need time to go through everyone's emails and contact them,
Once again I deeply thank everyone who contacted me, I will get in touch.

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Murali Krishnan <rti4citizens@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear friends
>
> A major news channel (Television) is planning to conduct clandestine
> observations in RTI information commissions, Central IC and also he state
> ICs. This observation is better known as "sting operation".
>
> If anybody in this list has pending any RTI appeal or complaints before
> Central Information Commission or any SIC and is willing to volunteer, email
> me back very urgently. Please take care to reply to me only and not to
> entire list. Very handsome compensation is assured depending on performance.
> If you have any friend also please invite them too.
>

--
Ravindra Pancholi

[HumJanenge] News stories uploaded to website

http://humjanenge.org.in/forum/index.php?board=4.0

People should ask questions that increase transparency
RTI should be used responsibly: CIC chief
Hotelier cries foul over cop's `high-handedness'

Re: [HumJanenge] URGENT: volunteers needed for sting operation

being a part of media I can be very helpful to you.
I am ready.

Ravindra Pancholi

On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Murali Krishnan <rti4citizens@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear friends

I am overwhelmed with the support I have received from Humjanenge group members.
I want to reply personally to everyone but since there are about 200 replies to me I need time to go through everyone's emails and contact them,
Once again I deeply thank everyone who contacted me, I will get in touch.

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Murali Krishnan <rti4citizens@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear friends
>
> A major news channel (Television) is planning to conduct clandestine
> observations in RTI information commissions, Central IC and also he state
> ICs. This observation is better known as "sting operation".
>
> If anybody in this list has pending any RTI appeal or complaints before
> Central Information Commission or any SIC and is willing to volunteer, email
> me back very urgently. Please take care to reply to me only and not to
> entire list. Very handsome compensation is assured depending on performance.
> If you have any friend also please invite them too.
>

--
Ravindra Pancholi

Re: [HumJanenge] URGENT: volunteers needed for sting operation

Dear friends

I am overwhelmed with the support I have received from Humjanenge group members.
I want to reply personally to everyone but since there are about 200 replies to me I need time to go through everyone's emails and contact them,
Once again I deeply thank everyone who contacted me, I will get in touch.

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Murali Krishnan <rti4citizens@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear friends
>
> A major news channel (Television) is planning to conduct clandestine
> observations in RTI information commissions, Central IC and also he state
> ICs. This observation is better known as "sting operation".
>
> If anybody in this list has pending any RTI appeal or complaints before
> Central Information Commission or any SIC and is willing to volunteer, email
> me back very urgently. Please take care to reply to me only and not to
> entire list. Very handsome compensation is assured depending on performance.
> If you have any friend also please invite them too.
>

Re: [rti4empowerment] VICTORY OF DEVELOPMENT, SLAP ON OTHER CONSIDERATION?

Dear Shashi kumar & others,

No Public Authority discloses information under section 4 of RTI Act 2005 even when asked for. This applies to even PMO or Rashtrapathi Bhavan or Governors Raj Bhavan or any state CM or Central or State Ministers.

None of Information Commissioners fulfil criteria for selection as per ection 12(5) & 15(5) of RTI Act 2005. " DOODH KA DHULA HUA KOI NAHIN.

Ultimately, as there is no solidarity & coordination between those who use RTI, RTI has become a Sugar Coated Castroil pill.

WEDS

From: SHASHI KUMAR.A.R. <rudreshtechnology@gmail.com>
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, 25 November, 2010 21:53:52
Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] VICTORY OF DEVELOPMENT, SLAP ON OTHER CONSIDERATION?

Do you think Bhiar elections are held without money , muscle power , liquor , How much money spent by ruling party and Bjp , How much lalu spent please give details ,Winning in election is not remove corruption , please tell me how many RTI Applications filed by citizens and how many departments under NITISH KUMAR Govt. Complied the Section 4 (1) a and 4( 1) b of the Act , In how many cases State information commission leavyied penalty for Erring PIOS

Please clarify

ARS KUMAR. B.E.MIE.FIV .LLB .MA JOURNALISM

Social activist

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:23 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

VICTORY OF DEVELOPMENT, SLAP ON OTHER CONSIDERATION?

CORRUPTION

The result of Bihar Assembly is a victory of development under the Nitish Kumar and a defeat of the leaders advocating caste and having charges of corruption. Good symbol for the nation.

CORRUPTION

How we can practice double standard for corruption, one for the Centre and other for the Karnataka? It is said that the Karnataka Govt. has already ordered judicial probe against the leaders charged with corruption. In the overall circumstances in the backdrop of 2G and Adarsh, the argument is untenable. The pary leading the UPA at Cedntre has removed his Chief Minister in Maharashtra on the allegations of irregularities and corruption in Adarsh Society and did not plead for the outcome of any inquiry before doing this. The party claiming itself with a difference is really different from other parties.

Re: [HumJanenge] Rajya Sabha invites opinion on 498A amendment

http://164.100.47.5/newcommittee/Petitions/Committee%20on%20Petitions/498%20IPC%20English.pdf

COMMITTEE ON PETITIONS

Petition praying for amendments in Section 498A of IPC.

**********

The Committee on Petitions of the Rajya Sabha, under the Chairmanship of Shri Bhagat Singh Koshyari, Member, Rajya Sabha, is considering a petition praying for amendments in Section 498A of Indian Penal Code, 1860. The petitioner in his petition has pointed out the extensive abuse and misuse of this provision of the Penal Code. According to the petitioner, the abused population undergoes tremendous harassment and torture. As these provisions of the penal code presently go, a complaint without much authenticity or any weight of evidence is enough to arrest the husband or the in-laws or anyone else named in the complaint, irrespective of whether any crime has taken place or not. The petitioner, accordingly, has prayed for suitable modification in section 498A of Penal Code so as to check its abuse and protect the interest of innocent persons.

2. The petition is available on the Rajya Sabha's website (www.rajyasabha.nic.in) under the link: Committees → Standing Committees → Committee on Petitions → Petitions with the Committee.

3. The Committee has decided to undertake consultations with a wide cross-section of the society and invites written memoranda thereon. Those desirous of submitting memoranda to the Committee may send two copies (each in English and Hindi) thereof to Shri Rakesh Naithani, Joint Director, Rajya Sabha Secretariat, Parliament House Annexe, New Delhi – 110 001 (Tel: 011-23035433(O), 23794328 (Telefax) and E-mail: rsc2pet@sansad.nic.in) latest by 30th December, 2010.

4. Comments/suggestions, etc. submitted to the Committee would form part of its record and would be treated as confidential. Any violation in this regard may attract breach of privilege of the Committee.

5. Those who are willing to appear before the Committee besides submitting written comments/suggestions may indicate so. However, the Committee's decision in this regard shall be final.

**********

To:

The Council of States (Rajya Sabha)

The petition of Dr. Anupama Singh a medical doctor and a resident of Hauz Khas, New Delhi.

Sheweth,

1. That Section 498A was inserted in Indian Penal Code in 1983 to protect married Indian women from cruelty, including dowry harassment. The offence under this section is cognizable, non-bailable, non-compoundable with provision to lodge a complaint against the husband or any relative of the husband of the women. The section reads as hereunder:-

"Whoever, being the husband or the relative of the husband of a woman, subjects such women to cruelty shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to three years and shall also be liable to fine."

2. That Section 498A of Indian Penal Code is being fearlessly abused and misused by a large section of unscrupulous people, who are using law as a weapon for ulterior motives.

3. That the abused population is undergoing tremendous harassment and torture, which includes atrocities inflicted on senior citizens, children, women (including pregnant women) and men.

4. That there is an urgent need to address the issue of abuse of this law as inter alia the ramifications of its abuse are far more damaging then the law makers had ever conceived:

(a)

This law is being misused rampantly by unprincipled people. And given the time tested benefits it has reaped for them, its abuse is now widespread. Infact the gravity of the situation can be assessed from the fact that there are several cases of dowry death wherein the supposedly 'dead victims' have come back alive, and several cases where the same women has repeatedly alleged charges under this law in each of her repeat marriages;

(b)

This law is being misused by women to enable a get-rich-quick-scheme to extort large amounts of money from innocent families. Women, their parents an instigators have used this law to extend threats and hold

innocent families to ransom, thereby pressurizing them to accede to unjustified demands;

(c)

This law is being misused by women to alienate the husband from his parents and siblings, so as to gain control over his finances and social behavior including his lifestyle. Growing instances of abusive behaviors towards elderlies in families, including parents and senior citizens, are another ramification of its abuse;

(d)

This law is also rampantly misused by those brides and her parents who conceal true facts about her mental health and educational level at the time of marriage, thereby adopting fraudulent means to forge the alliance. When these facts are unearthed by the groom and his family, the bride and her family prefer to take recourse to Section 498A of IPC.

(e)

This law is being misused as a bargaining tool by those women who indulge in Adultery. When their nefarious acts are exposed they take recourse to misusing this law, thereby deflecting the needle of crime on innocent husband and his family. This law being an exception in Criminal Law presumes the accused as guilty until proven innocent; hence the women's word is taken as a gospel of truth. And therefrom begins the saga of unending trials, tribulations and destruction for an innocent man and his family;

(f)

The law is being misused to enable divorce so as to revive any pre-marital relationship that the wife may have had as she may have unwillingly given her consent for marriage to satisfy her parents;

(g)

The law is being misused to deny custody of child/children to the father and his family. Infact several cases abound where children have been wrongfully deprived of fatherly care and affection through such indiscriminate, rampant misuse of this law;

(h)

This law is being misused to inflict sufferings on husband and his family to settle scores and to wreak vengeance, thereby posing a grave threat to the very existence of a peaceful family unit in society. Law is to protect, not to destruct. Law is as much for protecting the innocent as it is to punish the guilty; and

(i)

The language, content and structure of this law has enabled implication of thousands of innocent families in false cases. A complaint, without any authenticity and without any weight of evidence, is enough to arrest the husband, in-laws and anyone else name in the complaint,

irrespective of whether a crime occurred or not. This has led to arrest of lakhs innocent citizens (thousands of families), with many committing suicide as they are unable to bear the indelible stigma on their honor and reputation.

5. That the following statistics corroborate the above contention of the petitioner:

5,01,020 people arrested under Section 498A of IPC;

2,94,147 people completed trial under Section 498A of IPC; and

58,842 people convicted (out of his many must have appealed to higher courts)

Source: NCRB (2003-2006), Ministry of Home Affairs, Government of India.

6. That misuse of Section 498A of IPC has been acknowledged/condemned by leading authorities;

(a)

The Supreme Court of India in Sushil Kumar Sharma vs. U.O.I (2005) said that any misuse of this provision of law amounts to unleashing Legal Terrorism. It acknowledged that there are growing instances of women filing false charge.

(b)

The World Health Organization (WHO), in its Report of India clearly cited Section 498A as one of the major reasons for growing Elder Abuse in India.

(c)

The Law Commission in its 154th Report, the Malimath Committee Report (on Reforms of Criminal Justice System, 2003) and the 111th Report of the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Home Affairs, have all acknowledged that Section 498A is being widely misused;

(d)

The Center for Social Research (India), in a study on implications of Section 498A IPC state that "educated and independent minded women misuse the section".

7. That there is no remedy/provision in this law:

(a)

for punishment to people who misuse and abuse this law;

(b)

for people who are proved innocent after being falsely implicated under this law;

(c)

for the indelible stigma that falsely accused people are forced to live with for the rest of their lives;

(d)

for the immense financial, social and personal loss borne by the falsely accused;

(e)

for resurrecting the lives of falsely accused and maligned people;

(f)

for discouraging people from filing false cases.

(g)

for punishment to guilty and corrupt law enforcement agencies who connive and collude with complainants to harass and torture and falsely accused;

(h)

for preventing the media from maligning and defaming the falsely accused innocents; and

(i)

for citizens to file complaints against women who inflict cruelties and atrocities on them and their family members.

8. That the Supreme Court of India in Sushil Kumar Sharma vs. U.O.I & others (JT 2005 (6) SC 266) clearly said that it is for the legislature to find ways on how to deal with misuses of this law as well as on how to wipe out the ignominies suffered during and after the trial by the falsely accused.

9. That the petitioner therefore prays for remedy to mitigate the sufferings of lakhs of Indian citizens, who through this law, have been unceremoniously exposed to the whims and fancies of corrupt, immoral unprincipled section of society, who for their own personal agendas do not hesitate in committing the worst possible crime under law, which is Misuse of Law. It is therefore prayed:

(a)

that Section 498A be suitably amended so as to make it bailable, non-cognizable, and compoundable;

(b)

that suitable provisions be specifically inserted in Section 498A so as to make it punishable for whosoever misuses of abuses it;

(c)

that the misuser of this law should be made liable to compensate the financial loss suffered by the falsely accused in the process;

(d)

that the law be made gender neutrall of protect the interests of any innocent, be it a man or a women; and

(e)

that time bound trial should be make a statutory requirement under this law, with a 6 month maximum limit specified therein.

Name of Petitioner

Address

Signature

Dr. Anupama Singh

D-40, Hauz Khas,

New Delhi-110 016

Sd/-

--- On Sat, 27/11/10, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:

From: sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com>
Subject: [HumJanenge] Rajya Sabha invites opinion on 498A amendment
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com, "rti_india" <rti_india@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, 27 November, 2010, 8:22 AM

Dear group members

I personally know that many of you are here on this RTI group because
of 498A, Dom.V.Act etc,

The Rajya Sabha standing committee is seized of a petition complaining
about rampant abuse of 498A.
The Committee has sought opinions within 21 days. It should be out
very soon. Please post the link
once it is out

Sarbajit

Re: [HumJanenge] Rajya Sabha invites opinion on 498A amendment

Let our representatives reply as to why they passed this piece of legislation in the first instance? Was it a knee jerk reaction of Congress?

Anil

On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Dwarakanath <dwarakanathdm@gmail.com> wrote:

Section 498 of Indian Penal Code :" Whoever takes or entices away any woman who is and whom he knowns or has reason to believe to be the wife of any oher man, from that man, or from any person having the care of her on behalf of that man, with intent that she may hae illicit intercourse with any person, or conceals or degtains wigth that intent any such woman, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to two years, or with fine, or with both". Section 498 is very useful in cases of deceiptful decoying of married woman which is reported rampant in many areas, ultimately such persons are sold to Kamaptipura or similar places. It is absolutely needed to retain this section or even to reinforce this section with a higher punishment level. The current trend of crimes is high on woman being harassed all over india, this section must be retained to save the bahu betis of the house. If the cases are not registered in other words reported, it only means the slackness of the authorities concerned in booking the cases rather that the occurence of such incidences. The authorities show reluctance and dodging the booking of cases even on other small crimes. This should not be taken as everything is spic and span and no such cases occur. But the possibility of merging section 498 as section 497 sub section 2 could be opted. Regards, dwarakanathdm

On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 8:22 AM, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear group members

I personally know that many of you are here on this RTI group because
of 498A, Dom.V.Act etc,

The Rajya Sabha standing committee is seized of a petition complaining
about rampant abuse of 498A.
The Committee has sought opinions within 21 days. It should be out
very soon. Please post the link
once it is out

Sarbajit

Re: [rti4empowerment] VICTORY OF DEVELOPMENT, SLAP ON OTHER CONSIDERATION?

Destroy files. Adarsh scam is over.

Anil

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 9:53 PM, SHASHI KUMAR.A.R. <rudreshtechnology@gmail.com> wrote:

Do you think Bhiar elections are held without money , muscle power , liquor , How much money spent by ruling party and Bjp , How much lalu spent please give details ,Winning in election is not remove corruption , please tell me how many RTI Applications filed by citizens and how many departments under NITISH KUMAR Govt. Complied the Section 4 (1) a and 4( 1) b of the Act , In how many cases State information commission leavyied penalty for Erring PIOS
Please clarify

ARS KUMAR. B.E.MIE.FIV .LLB .MA JOURNALISM
Social activist

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:23 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

VICTORY OF DEVELOPMENT, SLAP ON OTHER CONSIDERATION?

CORRUPTION

The result of Bihar Assembly is a victory of development under the Nitish Kumar and a defeat of the leaders advocating caste and having charges of corruption. Good symbol for the nation.

CORRUPTION

How we can practice double standard for corruption, one for the Centre and other for the Karnataka? It is said that the Karnataka Govt. has already ordered judicial probe against the leaders charged with corruption. In the overall circumstances in the backdrop of 2G and Adarsh, the argument is untenable. The pary leading the UPA at Cedntre has removed his Chief Minister in Maharashtra on the allegations of irregularities and corruption in Adarsh Society and did not plead for the outcome of any inquiry before doing this. The party claiming itself with a difference is really different from other parties.

Re: [HumJanenge] MoneyLife: OMG! Impersonation sparks off a war on the Net

Have you formally sent a copy of your rejoinder to Sucheta Dalal and
asked her to publish the relevant portions with equal prominence in
her e-rag?.

Raminder

On 11/26/10, PMK1504 <humjanenge.owner@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow,
> Thanks for posting this Sarbajit.
>
> Let's rebut some of Suchetas's points. (will split it over 3 or 4
> posts to enable her to file an apology), if not we can send them a
> legal notice too.
>
> 1. Not a single message / email has originated (and we stress
> "originated") from this group (HJ-GG) which uses a name or email ID
> not that of the original sender.
>
> 2. Not a single email / message has either (a) originated or (b) been
> forwarded from this group using the name or email ID of a deceased
> person.
>
> 3 No malware / virus has been sent or forwarded from this group.. One
> of the reasons we use the google platform is for better malware
> protection (compared to Yahoo).
>
> 4 There has been absolutely no IMPERSONATION of people (ie. human
> beings) on this group.
>
> 5. It is a brazen lie to claim that HumJanenge@googlegroups has
> created a web of inter-connected groups. This is complete rubbish. The
> groups are not connected and won't be any time soon. The truth of the
> matter is that yahoo and google IDs collectively account for about 80%
> of members in any RTI group. By migrating to googlegroups we
> eventually intend to take advantage of OPENID, a system whereby both
> Yahoo or Google users can login / post to these RTI groups. In
> addition due to "collaboration" between moderators of these groups,
> troublesome members / spammers / scammers etc can be booted off all
> groups to protect our members.
>
> 6. Everyone who has asked to be unsubscribed has been. Almost always
> within 24 hours. Our software team have tracked down and eliminated
> almost all the spammers and the fake blogs they were using to repost /
> forward posts from this group. In addition about 2 DMCA takedown
> notices / complaints to Google for copyright infringement and 12 for
> spam generation takedown concerning posts made from this group
> illegally reposted by a blogger.com reposting service operated by
> "Urvashi Sharma" have been filed on behalf of this group.
>
> 7. "However, asking members of one group to subscribe mandatorily to
> other groups and making their e-mail IDs freely available to every
> member is not the way groups are operated on the Internet." This is
> 100% correct, but it does NOT apply to this group. Nobody here has
> made e-mail IDs of any other egroup available to "every member".
> Nobody here has asked (or required) members of another group to
> "mandatorily subscribe" to another group (such as HJ-GG).
>
> This should keep Ms Dalal busy for a day or 2 while we prepare the
> next salvo against such irresponsible reporting.
>
> PMK
> ("I am not Prakash Kardaley")
>
> On 11/25/10, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Here is an interesting article. Must save it as evidence for when the
>> cyber police come knocking here. Copy-posting the entire content since
>> the article has many (defamatory) things to say about this group and
>> its members and policies. Interestingly though, the moral of this
>> story is that people using groups should install Anti--virus software
>>
>> http://www.moneylife.in/article/78/11522.html
>>
>> "November 24, 2010 02:03 PM | Bookmark and Share
>> Moneylife Digital Team
>>
>> Impersonation on the Internet is creating dangerous distrust among
>> major groups operating on the worldwide web. Now RTI activists
>> bothered by this problem are taking the matter to the police
>>
>> Impersonation is not a new thing. For ages, impersonators have been
>> imitating or copying the behaviour or actions of others. However, when
>> someone impersonates someone on the Internet and starts sending e-
>> mails, by posting comments using the other person's name and e-mail
>> ID, it becomes a serious matter.
>>
>> Of late, many activists-especially those working on the right to
>> information (RTI) platform-are finding that their e-mails and names
>> are being used to send messages and post comments on the Internet.
>> This is not only leading to misunderstanding but also creating hatred
>> between the receiver and the sender whose name has been used.
>> Impersonators are not even sparing deceased members and are using
>> their names and e-mail IDs. Some RTI activists, including journalists,
>> plan to file complaints with the cyber crime cell of the police.
>>
>> One RTI activist alleged that a post on the RTI group contained an
>> attachment that was a malware (a short name for malicious software,
>> designed to secretly access a computer system without the owner's
>> informed consent) or spyware. According to some members who opened the
>> file, this may have been another attempt to keep track of the online
>> activities of the activists in this group.
>>
>> The use of spyware and the impersonation phenomena itself appears to
>> be a battle for supremacy between some non-governmental organisations
>> (NGOs). However, asking members of one group to subscribe mandatorily
>> to other groups and making their e-mail IDs freely available to every
>> member is not the way groups are operated on the Internet.
>>
>> There is a specific group, HumJanenge-on Google-which has created a
>> web of interconnected groups. Therefore, even if someone unsubscribes
>> from the particular group, he/she continues to receive e-mails through
>> the interlinked network of some real and some fake RTI groups.
>>
>> What is more shocking, originally HumJanenge was on the Yahoo domain.
>> Some time later, someone (he/she is still not ready to reveal the real
>> ID, yet) set up a group on Google using the same name. This person, or
>> group of persons acting in concert, decided to share member lists from
>> the Yahoo group with the Google group. The reason? They claimed this
>> was being done to create alternates or backups on Google just in case
>> Yahoo decided to close the groups. This appears false, as neither
>> Google nor Yahoo have said or hinted at closing any group or groups in
>> their domain.
>>
>> When some members tried to log out from the groups, they found, to
>> their shock, that they were being asked to subscribe to three or four
>> other groups.
>>
>> According to informed sources, the 'alleged' impersonation of some
>> members was a software glitch in early days of HumJanenge Google
>> group. The emails to the HumJanenge group on Yahoo domain were
>> forwarded to the Google group. The offending source IDs have been
>> removed and there is no likelihood of recurrence of this problem, the
>> sources added.
>>
>> "Adversaries have been successful in using the 'divide and rule'
>> policy. Those who want to curb the activities of RTI activists have
>> been making these insertions deep and cleaving us, very successfully.
>> In the past 15 days, I have received emails pertaining to accusations
>> and counter accusations. Deliberate explanations and counter
>> explanations. Where are we headed in this melee?" asked one member
>> from an RTI group.
>>
>> Some possible solutions
>>
>> The problem of impersonation on the Internet is somewhat difficult to
>> deal with. It is compounded by the fact that it is not easy to
>> identify people from the limited interaction on telephone and on the
>> Internet and verification is dependent on the computer. But there are
>> a few things those who are bothered by this problem can do, to deal
>> with the issue, or at least minimise the bother.
>>
>> For a start, people who have found instances of impersonation should
>> approach the police and file a case with the cyber crime cell.
>> Similarly, lodge a complaint against the owner or moderator of the
>> group with the domain owner-Google, Yahoo, or whichever. Google and
>> Yahoo have offices in India and the contact details are available on
>> their sites.
>>
>> In case one has no way of avoiding such messages or attachments coming
>> to the group, it is necessary to install a good anti-virus, malware/
>> spyware detector on your computer. Some effective anti-virus, malware/
>> spyware removers are available on the Internet free of cost, besides
>> the commonly used Norton and McAfee computer security systems.
>> CNET.com lists the following facilities: Top free anti-virus software
>> - AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition 2011, Avast Free Antivirus; Top free
>> malware/spyware remover: Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, Ad-Aware Free
>> Internet Security."
>

[rti4empowerment] Re: [HumJanenge] Open letter to Mr. Dhirendra Krishna

BREAKING NEWS

The US State Department has just briefed / warned the Indian
Government to prepare for a huge amount of "embarrassing material"
about Indian whistleblowers and terrorists being released to the
wikileaks website.

"We have reached out to India to warn them about a possible release of
documents," state department spokesman P J Crowley said.

"We do not know precisely what WikiLeaks has or what it plans to do.
We have made our position clear. These documents should not be
released,"

Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, urged
WikiLeaks to stop "dangerous" leaks.

"I would hope that those who are responsible for this would, at some
point in time, think about the responsibility that they have for lives
that they're exposing... and stop leaking this information," Admiral
Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told CNN.

"It continues to be extremely dangerous," he said. "We are very
mindful of the announcement that WikiLeaks made earlier this week,
that there is a release of documents pending at some point in the
future."

If the past is prologue, that would mean that certain news
organisations may well already be in possession of specific documents,
Crowley told reporters early this week.

Raminder

On 11/24/10, young cyber indians <cyberyouth@tightmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Gupta
>
> Who is the member who made slanderous or defamatory remarks about Ms.
> Babita ? Please tell me his name / email ID. If Mr Dhirendra has
> expelled me for abuse made by someone else should he not publicly
> apologize and reinstate my membership ?
>
> AID had sent DVD with scanned copies of all 1900 pages of documents to
> the wikileaks. Now they have recieved an email to say the wikileaks is
> not accepting new submissions because their site is blocked and hacked
> and they are reengineering their security systems. Wikileak website
> has not been opening to me for last 3,4 days. Can some members in
> India verify if the wikileaks.org website is working. In the mean time
> I shall try and make other arrangement to upload the scanned
> documents. The size of all files is about 2 and half GB so it needs a
> lot of bandwith. Name of Ratan Tata is not in the information given to
> us. Who has said this ?
>
> Kindly also ask Mr dhirendra krishna why he is not taking any action
> on the help I am giving him to improve his yahoo group and to ban
> Rsingh631 and 943 bouncing members.
>
> K.Rajeshwar Rao

Re: [HumJanenge] Open letter to Mr. Dhirendra Krishna

BREAKING NEWS

"We have reached out to India to warn them about a possible release of
documents," state department spokesman P J Crowley said.

"We do not know precisely what WikiLeaks has or what it plans to do.
We have made our position clear. These documents should not be
released,"

Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, urged
WikiLeaks to stop "dangerous" leaks.

If the past is prologue, that would mean that certain news
organisations may well already be in possession of specific documents,
Crowley told reporters early this week.

Raminder

Friday, November 26, 2010

Re: [HumJanenge] Rajya Sabha invites opinion on 498A amendment

Section 498 of Indian Penal Code :" Whoever takes or entices away any woman who is and whom he knowns or has reason to believe to be the wife of any oher man, from that man, or from any person having the care of her on behalf of that man, with intent that she may hae illicit intercourse with any person, or conceals or degtains wigth that intent any such woman, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to two years, or with fine, or with both". Section 498 is very useful in cases of deceiptful decoying of married woman which is reported rampant in many areas, ultimately such persons are sold to Kamaptipura or similar places. It is absolutely needed to retain this section or even to reinforce this section with a higher punishment level. The current trend of crimes is high on woman being harassed all over india, this section must be retained to save the bahu betis of the house. If the cases are not registered in other words reported, it only means the slackness of the authorities concerned in booking the cases rather that the occurence of such incidences. The authorities show reluctance and dodging the booking of cases even on other small crimes. This should not be taken as everything is spic and span and no such cases occur. But the possibility of merging section 498 as section 497 sub section 2 could be opted. Regards, dwarakanathdm

On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 8:22 AM, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear group members

I personally know that many of you are here on this RTI group because
of 498A, Dom.V.Act etc,

The Rajya Sabha standing committee is seized of a petition complaining
about rampant abuse of 498A.
The Committee has sought opinions within 21 days. It should be out
very soon. Please post the link
once it is out

Sarbajit

[HumJanenge] It’s our right to know. A.G.Noorani.

Many thanks to Shri Babubhai for reminding about this article on 2nd
anniversary of 26/11

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/getFiles.asp?Style=OliveXLib:LowLevelEntityToPrint_TOINEW&Type=text/html&Locale=english-skin-custom&Path=TOIM/2009/08/17&ID=Ar01401
Publication: The Times Of India Mumbai; Date: Aug 17, 2009; Section:
Editorial; Page: 14

It's our right to know

A G Noorani

On August 4, the Supreme Court stayed an order of the Bombay high
court directing the Maharashtra government to place before it the
report of the Pradhan committee on the state's response to the 26/11
attack on Mumbai. The case has been posted for further hearing on
August 21, after notices are served on the petitioners.

This is fair. What is not fair, however, is that the court made
observations, which were irrelevant to the case, and made disparaging
comments on the electronic media. One hopes that the bench, comprising
the Chief Justice of India, K G Balakrishnan, and justices P
Sathasivam and B S Chauhan will fully reflect on the issues involved
after the final hearing and allay the disquiet its observations have
caused.

The Pradhan committee was set up against a certain background. The
public was dissatisfied with the Centre as well as the state's
handling of the incident. The heads of Union home minister Shivraj
Patil and chief minister Vilasrao Deshmukh rolled in rare unison. A
panel was set up by the state government but it soon lost awareness of
its own existence.

Responding to public criticism, the government set up a committee
comprising R D Pradhan, a former Union cabinet secretary, and V
Balachandran, a retired IPS officer to "inquire into the incident of
terrorist attack of November 26, 2008 and to identify lapses in
intelligence input provided by central intelligence agency and to
specify a prompt reaction mechanism" (sic).

The report itself, evidently, does not say that it should not be
published. If it had, the government would have gone to town on that
caveat. In a press statement Pradhan very properly declined to offer
any advice on whether the report should or should not be published and
left it to the state's discretion.

This is where the public comes in. It is common in such cases for
the authors of the report to indicate the passages which should be
excised from the report, when it is published, in the interests of
national security. No one contests that. It is the blanket ban that is
being challenged as it violates the citizens' incontestable right to
know.

The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that the right to know
flows inexorably from the fundamental right to freedom of speech and
expression embodied in Article 19(1)(a) of the Constitution. It was,
therefore, pointless for the bench to ask, what purpose would
disclosure serve.

The high court had asked to see the report precisely in order to
balance the two legitimate but competing values of freedom and safety.
The public is entitled to know that adequate security measures are
being taken. No one asks for the details. No one in the US questioned
the need to publish reports on 9/11, a far graver attack than the one
on 26/11, though some cuts were made.

But the most astonishing observation by the bench was its
disparagement of the electronic media and, indeed, of public discourse
generally. On the question of making the report public, it observed:
"It will only serve for television discussions" and "it will become a
matter of discussion at many public forums. Will it be a good thing
for the country?"

The paternalistic outlook these remarks reflect are at total
variance with the outlook reflected in the Constitution, which
respects citizens' rights. The court's remarks do not. Like court
judgements and newspaper columns and editorials, the quality of TV
panel debates varies. But TV news channels – good, bad and indifferent
– perform a useful role in our democracy as the court noted in the R K
Anand case. To decry "discussion at many public forums" is to decry
democracy itself.

The writer is a constitutional expert.

[HumJanenge] Rajya Sabha invites opinion on 498A amendment

Dear group members

I personally know that many of you are here on this RTI group because
of 498A, Dom.V.Act etc,

The Rajya Sabha standing committee is seized of a petition complaining
about rampant abuse of 498A.
The Committee has sought opinions within 21 days. It should be out
very soon. Please post the link
once it is out

Sarbajit

Re: [HumJanenge] CIC minutes of meeting

http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Minutes/Minutes16112010.pdf

Minutes of the Meeting held on 16 11 10

Present:
Sri A N Tiwari, Chief Information Commissioner
Sri Satyananda Mishra, Information Commissioner
Smt Annapurna Dixit, Information Commissioner
Sri M L Sharma, Information Commissioner
Sri Shailesh Gandhi, Information Commissioner
Secretary and officers assisted the Commission.

Agenda 1: Draft RTI rules- for discussions
Commission discussed the draft rules and suggested some modifications. The
changes as suggested by the Commission shall be incorporated and sent to the
Government at the earliest.
(Action: Secretary/JS (law))

Agenda 2: Status of Helpline for the Commission- for information
Secretary apprised the Commission that the helpline would be put in place by
the middle of the next week. He further apprised that appropriate procedures
are being met as of now.
(Action: JS (A &P))

Agenda 3: Approval of payment on enhanced rent and service tax for AKB- for
information
Noted.

Agenda 4: Draft cabinet note on declaration of CIC as grants in aid- for
information
Noted.

Agenda 5: A brief analysis on RTI applications received by the Public Authorities
and the appeal/complaints by CIC
Commission discussed the analysis and desired that such analyses are required
more frequently.
(Action: DS (PP))

Agenda 6: Suggested format for the portal in compliance to the direction of the
Commission u/s 19 (8) (a)
Commission adopted the format as circulated for uploading the personnel
related details and functions of Public Authorities in terms of section II of its
order CIC/AT/D/10/000111 dated 15 11 2010. Commission directed the
secretariat to take up the matter with the NIC for creating a portal on which
these informations would be uploaded. This exercise would be completed at
the earliest but in no case later than two weeks of time.
(Action: DS (PP)/Mr Paul, NIC))

Re: [HumJanenge] URGENT: volunteers needed for sting operation

hello,

I have one appeal pending with SIC,maharashtra.

regards
madhukar mazire

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Murali Krishnan <rti4citizens@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear friends
>
> A major news channel (Television) is planning to conduct clandestine
> observations in RTI information commissions, Central IC and also he state
> ICs. This observation is better known as "sting operation".
>
> If anybody in this list has pending any RTI appeal or complaints before
> Central Information Commission or any SIC and is willing to volunteer, email
> me back very urgently. Please take care to reply to me only and not to
> entire list. Very handsome compensation is assured depending on performance.
> If you have any friend also please invite them too.
>

Thursday, November 25, 2010

Re: [rti4empowerment] Open letter to Mr. Dhirendra Krishna

Dear Gupta ji
Thanks
You are very clear on your side.
We must come out to help each other rather to pull legs
Regards
Dr JNSharma
ADVOCATE/HUMANRIGHTS ACTIVIST

On 11/25/10, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Dear Mr. Rao,
>
> I can only say that neither you have not made objectionable comments nor in
> your
> mail on the issue condemned the comments. I don't remember the name of the
> person who made such comments but by going through old mails, we can know
> the
> name.
>
> I do not enjoy any personal relationship with Mr. Dhirendra Krishna,
> whatever
> relation we have, i.e. through emails on his blog.
>
> If u have any thing to share with him, please take the matter with him
> directly,
> I cannot play a mediator.
>
>
> Against, earnestly request either to share names or withdraw your earlier
> statements.
>
> JAI RTI, DOWN WITH CORRUPTION.
> JAI HIND.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: young cyber indians <cyberyouth@tightmail.com>
> To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 24 November, 2010 4:37:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] Open letter to Mr. Dhirendra Krishna
>
> Dear Gupta
>
> Who is the member who made slanderous or defamatory remarks about Ms.
> Babita ? Please tell me his name / email ID. If Mr Dhirendra has
> expelled me for abuse made by someone else should he not publicly
> apologize and reinstate my membership ?
>
> AID had sent DVD with scanned copies of all 1900 pages of documents to
> the wikileaks. Now they have recieved an email to say the wikileaks is
> not accepting new submissions because their site is blocked and hacked
> and they are reengineering their security systems. Wikileak website
> has not been opening to me for last 3,4 days. Can some members in
> India verify if the wikileaks.org website is working. In the mean time
> I shall try and make other arrangement to upload the scanned
> documents. The size of all files is about 2 and half GB so it needs a
> lot of bandwith. Name of Ratan Tata is not in the information given to
> us. Who has said this ?
>
> Kindly also ask Mr dhirendra krishna why he is not taking any action
> on the help I am giving him to improve his yahoo group and to ban
> Rsingh631 and 943 bouncing members.
>
> K.Rajeshwar Rao
>
>
>>Who said that I m speaking for Mr. Dhirendra Krishna? I am against the foul
> language and that too against the dignity of a lady member on the group as
> some
> other members have also agitated against that. I request you to read my
> mail
> again and I don't have any objection to my expulsion on the issue if other
> members feel so. Curiously, you have not mentioned single work against the
> member who made slanderous and defamatory comments against Ms. Babita. In
> the
> absence of that, should be presume that you are silently supporting the
> members
> who made such unwarranted remarks?
>>
>>2.What about you who said that 600 RTI activists are suspects? On the
>> issue,
> as
> pointed out by another member, u have made three different statements which
> mismatches from each other. Has the list been uploaded on the wikileaks? If
> not,
> you kindly put a scanned copy of the list without putting a lot of papers.
> So
> far, many members have demanded the information which contains names of
> reputed
> persons such as Mr. Ratan Tata also and if the information given by you
> proved
> false, you will really deserve to be expelled for spreading disinformation
> and
> creating confusion. I am afraid that u may not brand me an agent of Mr.
> Tata in
> your next mail.
>>
>>3.However, Ms. Babita Singh has not objected to the mail sent to her by me
>> and
> in the circumstances, your mail is undesirable. I stand by her against her
> objection for the comments.
>>
>>What are the RTI volunteers going to achieve by fighting among themselves?
> Copy to – Mr. Dhirendra Krishna and Ms Babita Singh.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:10 PM, young cyber indians
> <cyberyouth@tightmail.com> wrote:
>>> Dear Mr Gupta
>>>
>>> Why are you speaking for Mr Dhirendra Krishna ? Who has authorized you
>> ? Why do you not also complain about one and expel Rsingh631 who is
>> posting racist hateful lies on rti4empowerment-yahoogroup owned by
>> dhirendra krishna
>>>
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rti4empowerment/message/7870
>>> Where he abuses Muslims
>>>
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rti4empowerment/message/7876
>> Where he abuses Sikhs and calls them Khalistanis.
>>>
>>> Do you know that these mails are originating from USA - Comcast, to
>> trick people who reply into exposing their email accounts for hacking.
>>>
>>> How many "bouncing" members has dhirendra krishna removed from
>> Yahoogroup. 943 bouncing members are still left ?.
>>>
>>> I suggest that moderator of this group should also expel Mr M.K.Gupta
>> for spreading lies and collaborating with international gang of email
>> spammers and fraudsters like Urvashi Sharma, Babita Singh,
>> Barbrathyabali.
>>>
>>> K.Rajeshwar Rao
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:17 AM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
>> wrote:
>>> Babita ji,
>>>
>>> I strongly condemn the comment of the member against you which is
>>> undignified. Mr. Dhirendra Krishan has removed that member and in
>>> future,
>>> and I understand that he has also got hurtled from such unsavoury remark.
>>> I
>>> feel that there is a need to moderate messages before uploading them on
>>> the
>>> blog and appeal to Shri Krishnan for the same to stop such recurrences in
>>> future.
>>>
>>> By joining issue with Mr. Krishnan, u will, though unwittingly, be
>>> strengthening the hands of the owner of the google group of the same name
>>> on
>>> which such uncivilized language is a part of the game and that group want
>>> rti4em….. @yahoo………. and all other RTI groups should be ultimately be
>>> closed/ merge with that. For that, his moderators are also using
>>> unethical
>>> ways by adding members of this group without their consent to their
>>> group.
>>>
>>> Legal procedure is bit complicated for which u need the address of the
>>> member who made such comment for serving the notice. The action will
>>> also
>>> give undesired publicity to this episode. As an alternative or an
>>> addition,
>>> the members of the blog can condemn the remark or may ask for an apology
>>> from the expelled member who made remarks which was in bad taste. I am
>>> for the dignity of all including of the honourable ladies and no body has
>>> a
>>> right to play with their honour. I was also anguished after reading the
>>> unParliamenatry and slanderious and imtemperate language.
>>>
>>> With regard and regret for the comments by a member against you.
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: young cyber indians <cyberyouth@tightmail.com>
>>> To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Mon, 22 November, 2010 3:17:40 PM
>>> Subject: [rti4empowerment] Open letter to Mr. Dhirendra Krishna
>>>
>>> Dear Mr Krishna
>>>
>>> I'm putting this email to all RTI groups to expose you
>>>
>>> You can delete me from your group rti4empowerment but you cannot
>>> prevent the truth from being known
>>>
>>> In 2008 messages were sent to RTI activists like me from RTI4 groups
>>> by one lady from dubai Barbarathyabali. These emails had attachments
>>> which contained spyware to spy on RTI activists. Many members
>>> complained to you and you sent them email list of RTI4empowerment
>>> members with all details in Excel sheet. Please do not deny this. I
>>> analyzed and requested you to delete about 30 email IDs but you did
>>> not. Another member (I will not name him) also requested you to delete
>>> 50 names and make changes in group settings for better security.
>>> Barbarathyabali continues to post in your group.till recently.
>>>
>>> Even today, there are over 900 bad names in your group. Sample list is
>>> given below. Will you delete them also or will you continue to infect
>>> RTI actvist with spyware and expose them to Nigerian fraudsters who
>>> use bouncing email IDs to fool group members and hack their accounts.
>>> You have 943 bouncing members in your group of 2214.
>>>
>>> You are colluding with group of spammers from Lucknow calling
>>> themselves Indian National RTI forum. One of your moderators is part
>>> of this group and you will not remove him. You openly patronise this
>>> bad group but remove all good persons. Please reflect on your folly
>>> before it is too late.
>>>
>>> Rao
>>>
>>> Bouncing Members
>>> Bouncing
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