Re: [IAC#RG] Who : Anna retires from anti-corruption war

Dear Ravi

You have not got the thrust of Babubhai's message "Who Anna ?"

So let me expand further to refresh your memory.

Q1:WHO was Anna Hazare before 2011 ?
A1: A small time Congress mole from Maharashtra.

Q2 WHO "inserted" him in "IAC" to go on fast from 30 Jan 2011 and elevated him to national status ?
A2: His Congress sponsors like Kiran Bedi, Aruna Roy, Sri Sri Ravisankar, Arvind Kejriwal, Admiral Ramdas, MG Devasahyam (another mole) etc. They could not have done this without paid media like NDTV and the Congress+Mukesh_Ambani networks and newspapers.

Q3: WHY was "fake Gandhian" Anna Hazare inserted ?
A3: Because eminent Gandhians led by Shambhu Dutt Sharma of GSSB (Gandhi Social Seva Brigade) were going on fast unto death from that day for 3 core anti-corruption demands (call and date had been given in Oct 2010 after Common Wealth Games scam).

Q4: WHO did Anna benefit in the end?
A4; Corrupt Congress and BJP scamsters in Common Wealth Games Rs. 38,000+ crore scam (see how everybody forgets so easily) who are still in power.

Q5; HOW was Anna inserted ?
A5: By assuring GSSB and IAC/HRA that S D Sharma's life was too precious, that SDS was 90+ years and it would take at least 3 weeks to get Govt to agree, and that instead Anna would "fast-unto-death" Satyagraha till 3 demands were achieved.

Q6: Did the 3 demands get achieved ?
A6: No - not even 1 of them

Q7: Did Anna actually fast unto death ?
A7: Very funny - ha ha ha !

Q8: Did Sarbajit protest in 2011 itself, WHY is he saying this only now ?
A8: Please see emails (publicly archived of Humjanenge google groups exchanged between myself and Justice (Retd) K N Nath President of GSSB dated 4/5 Feb 2011)

Q9: Why is Sarbajit the National Convenor of IAC now ?
A9: Because top leadership of  HRA acknowledges that I was correct in my reading of those Mir Jafars. HRA has expelled all the foreign financed NAC / NCPRI haramis from IAC.

Q10: What is IAC doing to arouse the conscience of people against corruption ?
A10: We are following blend of Indian (Chanakya) and Chinese (Deng Xiao Ping) principles -

"Be Observant, Maintain low profile, Never disclose your True Strength, Never claim Leadership. Always Contribute" etc.

Sarbajit

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Sri Babubhai Vaghela
>
> It is quite unbecoming of you to deprecate Anna like this. After all his contribution in waking up the national conscience against corruption is something that we all need to appreciate. I have been reading your mails regularly and know that you are yourself a great crusader against corruption.  Your own attitude 'either we fight corruption for what it is or just forget it is also a common attitude and unfortunately most people opt for the second option. In practice, if it had been the first option then things would have been a lot different on the ground.
>
> regards n bw
>
> ravi
>
>

Re: [IAC#RG] DERC's latest Tariff orders show AAP ignored.

If AAP ignorant so what ushould takeup the issue because thai is the matter for

all citigens of INDIA.

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Dr. NC Jain <j_nc2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

Good decision by IAC. Dr N C Jain /11-8-13

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 7:31 PM
Subject: [IAC#RG] DERC's latest Tariff orders show AAP ignored.

The latest DERC Tariff orders (Electricity Tariffs for Delhi) have been uploaded to their website.

Not a peep out of Aam Aadmi Party on these orders indicates they have been bought off by the Discoms to finance AAP's election campaign.

The orders show that Arvind Kejriwal /  Aam Aadmi Party (unlike BJP and Vijay Goel) had not even bothered to filed any written response to the Discom Petitions. Whereas IAC had filed on 12.02.2013 and followed it up with a supplementary, and BJP had filed something on 01.04.2013 the very last day (All fools days), Arvind only turned up for a single hearing and nothing of what he said is reflected in the tariff orders.

DERC has taken note of several core suggestions from IAC <wink>.

So now on to the appeal stage in the ATE where the real action is going to take place spaced out over 1 year when the Discoms appeal this order.

Sarbajit

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Re: [IAC#RG] Vadra - DLF land deal

It is Khemka's claim and not a judicial order. Please remember it is Khemka who is in the dock and not Vadhera. The question to answer is,  did Vadhera buy the land on a consideration, an essential ingredient in making a legal and valid contract  Did he pay for it?. It does not matter who supported him financially.in the deal. What matters is that he bought the land and paid for it. To issue a false cheque is a criminal offence. If Vadhera has issued a cheque, knowing that he did not have funds then he should have been charged with a criminal offence. Why was it not done.?? To buy a piece of land and then sell it on a profit is not a bad thing at all.

 

Khemka is in the dock himself because even after he was transferred, he kept on dealing with vadhera's file and kept on making orders on it  which was against the service rules. This reply is on a charge of using his official position to harass a citizen. Devinder

From: T Pannu <tpannu@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Sunday, 11 August 2013, 2:47
Subject: [IAC#RG] Vadra - DLF land deal

Dear Mr Sarbajit,

 

    May I request your comments/further action by IAC in this matter.

 

Veteran T  Pannu

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Khemka claims Vadra used fake documents for Gurgaon land

 

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/khemka-claims-vadra-used-fake-documents-for-gurgaon-land/1/298893.html

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Re: [IAC#RG] Raj kadyan

What is the difference between the veterans and the dirty politicians.

We all are from the same stock.

Remove all such stupidities and work for the welfare of the nation and the ex-servicemen.

Stop infighting or destroy the organisation you have created for self service!

We have lived without it and can do well without it.

If not, Annihilate all ex-service men associations  & India resists. Enough is enough.

Stop calling Ex-servicemen as veterans. It is a shame for veterans to act like dirty politicians!

Col P M DAS 

Re -Tyred

Mohan

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 2:59 PM, M.N.Seshadri <manavasi.seshadri@gmail.com> wrote:

Whatever you guys do,  do it quickly and UNITE.   It is important that dirty linen is not washed in public like what these political parties do every day except when it comes to their salary and perks, RTI and criminals and also sand mining by mafias .

Please get together and if you feel have an emergency GB meeting and elect a new set.  Seshadri

 

From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net [mailto:indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 10:12 AM
To: indiaresists

Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Raj kadyan

 

Dear Gen Kochhar

As an uninvolved person reading these mails, it is clear that MoDef and ruling dispensation have used time tested tactics of "divide and rule" against IES movement.

It seems that Gen Kadyan took the bait and is now trying to pass off the lollipops they gave him as major (personal) victories for the movement. I don't see a hint of an apology or regret in Gen Kadyan's mail.

OTH I also see a clique around the Gen.Sec Cp Capt V.K. Gandhi who are blatantly trying to politicise the movement with messages like this
http://iesmorg1.blogspot.in/2013/05/vote-power-of-veterans-by-gp-capt-vk.html
Such an approach is equally divisive and short sighted. In politics and war there are no permanent friends only temporary allies.

It is high time that IESs present a APOLITICAL united, highly cantankerous and aggressive nationwide front to the present Govt. to agitate for a very few of their core demands. The timing over next 3 or 4 months is perfect for this.

The point about "moles" is well taken. Every movement has them, so it is better that everything is done out in the open and IESM has a public website clearly specifying what they want in terms of their operational objectives and schedule of priorities. If I go to www.iesm.org I don't get a clear idea of what your movement is all about.

Sarbajit

 

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Mitlesh Kochhar <mitleshkochhar@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Dear Arun,

 

Let us not forget that Gen Kadyan is the Archtect of IESM. How can he ever think of destroying his own baby.If the politicians and bureaucrats are trying to split our organisation, why are we singling out Gen Kadyan alone. It could other moles also. If we wish to defeat the Politician-bureaucrat nexus, we must let Gen Kadyan continue till the next GB elections and allow the laid down procedures to take their normal course. I appeal to all Vetrans not to fall prey to the Machinations of the Manipulators.

 

Lt Gen (Dr) M R Kochhar, PVSM, AVSM (Retd)

 

 

 

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Re: [IAC#RG] DERC's latest Tariff orders show AAP ignored.

Good decision by IAC. Dr N C Jain /11-8-13

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 7:31 PM
Subject: [IAC#RG] DERC's latest Tariff orders show AAP ignored.

The latest DERC Tariff orders (Electricity Tariffs for Delhi) have been uploaded to their website.

Not a peep out of Aam Aadmi Party on these orders indicates they have been bought off by the Discoms to finance AAP's election campaign.

The orders show that Arvind Kejriwal /  Aam Aadmi Party (unlike BJP and Vijay Goel) had not even bothered to filed any written response to the Discom Petitions. Whereas IAC had filed on 12.02.2013 and followed it up with a supplementary, and BJP had filed something on 01.04.2013 the very last day (All fools days), Arvind only turned up for a single hearing and nothing of what he said is reflected in the tariff orders.

DERC has taken note of several core suggestions from IAC <wink>.

So now on to the appeal stage in the ATE where the real action is going to take place spaced out over 1 year when the Discoms appeal this order.

Sarbajit

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[IAC#RG] Vadra - DLF land deal

Dear Mr Sarbajit,

 

    May I request your comments/further action by IAC in this matter.

 

Veteran T  Pannu

----------------------------------------

Khemka claims Vadra used fake documents for Gurgaon land

 

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/khemka-claims-vadra-used-fake-documents-for-gurgaon-land/1/298893.html

Re:[IAC#RG] : Who : Anna retires from anti-corruption war

British Raj concluded it's self by terming us Indians as "Indian Slaves"-were they wrong in saying so? Anna's name is synonimous with the "14 Days that rocked India"-Koi to Mard ka bacha desh ko jaga saka! These 14 days also displayed how shallow our Parliamentarians are by dis honouring the "Sense of House" enacted to silent "Mein bhi Anna hun!!" The British Raj rightly called us "Slaves" truth is bitter but the reality speaks for itself. If Anna is retiring it's no wonder because "Anna" is you & me standing for his cause not supported by VDPPL (We the People-slaves in British terms)



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On Sat 10 Aug, 2013 6:56 PM IST Babubhai Vaghela wrote:

>Anna? Who Anna?
>
>On 8/10/13, Dr. Deven Taneja <deventaneja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> corruption at every steps. he must continue his war. we are with him
>> d k taneja
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 10/8/13
>>
>> Dear Sirs,
>>
>> The Heading ' Anna retires from anti-corruption 'War is misleading.
>> It is too early to read into his' reintegration into IAC fold' At best it
>> could be that he will continue under his banner and IAC under theirs but
>> they may find common ground to carry forward the fight. He has clarified
>> the issues on which he will continue the fight.
>> Regds
>> JKGaur
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 22:23:05 +0530
>> From: h.r.bangia@gmail.com
>> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
>> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Anna retires from anti-corruption war
>>
>> Thanks for updating.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:58 PM, India News <indianewsco@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Anna retires from anti-corruption
>> war<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/anna-retires-anti-corruption-war-9170425>
>> *Murali Krishnan | India News Political Bureau*, *Delhi, Friday August
>> 09, 2013, 17:32 pm (IST)*
>> Anna Hazare, the veteran Gandhian and face of 2011's anti-corruption
>> movement India Aganst Corruption has announced that his own outfit
>> *Bhrashtachar
>> Virodhi Jan Andolan* (BVJA) will henceforth no longer be tackling
>> corruption issues at a personal or social level.
>> In an email circulated to Indian Against Corruption's membership today,
>> the Gandhian's office has clarified that Anna (big brother) "*is now
>> focus on Janlokpal, Right to Reject, Right to Recall, Farmers problems,
>> Change in Education in System.*"
>> Recently the National Convenor of IAC Er. Sarbajit Roy has said that the
>> anti-corruption movement has differences with Hazare over the concept of
>> an
>> all purpose Jan Lokpal (People's ombudsman) tasked to look at petty
>> individual corruption as well as massive systemic corruption.
>> Anna's statement deprecating the fight against petty corruption is seen
>> as
>> an important step towards his reintegration into the present IAC
>> structure.
>> "Breaking News"
>>
>> - Anna retires from anti-corruption
>> war<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/anna-retires-anti-corruption-war-9170425>
>> - Clashes & curfew imposed in Kishtwar (J&K) after
>> riots<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/clashes-curfew-imposed-kishtwar-jk-after-riots-9170425>
>> - IAC unblocks website ripoffreport.com strikes anti-censorship
>> blow<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/iac-unblocks-website-ripoffreportcom-strikes-anti-censorship-blow-9170425>
>> - IESM's expelled President Raj Kadyan shoots
>> back<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/iesms-expelled-president-raj-kadyan-shoots-back-9170425>
>> - Rajya Sabha: 08 August 2013, Members to seek clarifications on
>>
>> Telangana<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/rajya-sabha-08-august-2013-members-seek-clarifications-telangana-9170425>
>>
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Re: [IAC#RG] Who : Anna retires from anti-corruption war

Dear Sri Babubhai Vaghela

It is quite unbecoming of you to deprecate Anna like this. After all his contribution in waking up the national conscience against corruption is something that we all need to appreciate. I have been reading your mails regularly and know that you are yourself a great crusader against corruption.  Your own attitude 'either we fight corruption for what it is or just forget it is also a common attitude and unfortunately most people opt for the second option. In practice, if it had been the first option then things would have been a lot different on the ground.

regards n bw

ravi

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@gmail.com> wrote:

Anna? Who Anna?

On 8/10/13, Dr. Deven Taneja <deventaneja@gmail.com> wrote:
> corruption at every steps. he must continue his war. we are with him
> d k taneja
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 10/8/13
>>
>> Dear Sirs,
>>
>> The Heading ' Anna retires from anti-corruption 'War is misleading.
>> It is too early to read into his' reintegration into IAC fold' At best it
>> could be that he will continue under his banner and IAC under theirs but
>> they may find common ground to carry forward the fight. He has clarified
>> the issues on which he will continue the fight.
>> Regds
>> JKGaur
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 22:23:05 +0530
>> From: h.r.bangia@gmail.com
>> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
>> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Anna retires from anti-corruption war
>>
>> Thanks for updating.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:58 PM, India News <indianewsco@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Anna retires from anti-corruption
>> war<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/anna-retires-anti-corruption-war-9170425>
>>  *Murali Krishnan | India News Political Bureau*, *Delhi, Friday August
>> 09, 2013, 17:32 pm (IST)*
>> Anna Hazare, the veteran Gandhian and face of 2011's anti-corruption
>> movement India Aganst Corruption has announced that his own outfit
>> *Bhrashtachar
>> Virodhi Jan Andolan* (BVJA) will henceforth no longer be tackling
>> corruption issues at a personal or social level.
>> In an email circulated to Indian Against Corruption's membership today,
>> the Gandhian's office has clarified that Anna (big brother) "*is now
>> focus on Janlokpal, Right to Reject, Right to Recall, Farmers problems,
>> Change in Education in System.*"
>> Recently the National Convenor of IAC Er. Sarbajit Roy has said that the
>> anti-corruption movement has differences with Hazare over the concept of
>> an
>> all purpose Jan Lokpal (People's ombudsman) tasked to look at petty
>> individual corruption as well as massive systemic corruption.
>> Anna's statement deprecating the fight against petty corruption is seen
>> as
>> an important step towards his reintegration into the present IAC
>> structure.
>> "Breaking News"
>>
>>    - Anna retires from anti-corruption
>> war<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/anna-retires-anti-corruption-war-9170425>
>>    - Clashes & curfew imposed in Kishtwar (J&K) after
>> riots<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/clashes-curfew-imposed-kishtwar-jk-after-riots-9170425>
>>    - IAC unblocks website ripoffreport.com strikes anti-censorship
>> blow<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/iac-unblocks-website-ripoffreportcom-strikes-anti-censorship-blow-9170425>
>>    - IESM's expelled President Raj Kadyan shoots
>> back<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/iesms-expelled-president-raj-kadyan-shoots-back-9170425>
>>    - Rajya Sabha: 08 August 2013, Members to seek clarifications on
>>
>> Telangana<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/rajya-sabha-08-august-2013-members-seek-clarifications-telangana-9170425>
>>
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[IAC#RG] DERC's latest Tariff orders show AAP ignored.

The latest DERC Tariff orders (Electricity Tariffs for Delhi) have been uploaded to their website.

Not a peep out of Aam Aadmi Party on these orders indicates they have been bought off by the Discoms to finance AAP's election campaign.

The orders show that Arvind Kejriwal /  Aam Aadmi Party (unlike BJP and Vijay Goel) had not even bothered to filed any written response to the Discom Petitions. Whereas IAC had filed on 12.02.2013 and followed it up with a supplementary, and BJP had filed something on 01.04.2013 the very last day (All fools days), Arvind only turned up for a single hearing and nothing of what he said is reflected in the tariff orders.

DERC has taken note of several core suggestions from IAC <wink>.

So now on to the appeal stage in the ATE where the real action is going to take place spaced out over 1 year when the Discoms appeal this order.

Sarbajit

[IAC#RG] Who : Anna retires from anti-corruption war

Anna? Who Anna?

On 8/10/13, Dr. Deven Taneja <deventaneja@gmail.com> wrote:
> corruption at every steps. he must continue his war. we are with him
> d k taneja
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 10/8/13
>>
>> Dear Sirs,
>>
>> The Heading ' Anna retires from anti-corruption 'War is misleading.
>> It is too early to read into his' reintegration into IAC fold' At best it
>> could be that he will continue under his banner and IAC under theirs but
>> they may find common ground to carry forward the fight. He has clarified
>> the issues on which he will continue the fight.
>> Regds
>> JKGaur
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 22:23:05 +0530
>> From: h.r.bangia@gmail.com
>> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
>> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Anna retires from anti-corruption war
>>
>> Thanks for updating.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:58 PM, India News <indianewsco@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Anna retires from anti-corruption
>> war<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/anna-retires-anti-corruption-war-9170425>
>> *Murali Krishnan | India News Political Bureau*, *Delhi, Friday August
>> 09, 2013, 17:32 pm (IST)*
>> Anna Hazare, the veteran Gandhian and face of 2011's anti-corruption
>> movement India Aganst Corruption has announced that his own outfit
>> *Bhrashtachar
>> Virodhi Jan Andolan* (BVJA) will henceforth no longer be tackling
>> corruption issues at a personal or social level.
>> In an email circulated to Indian Against Corruption's membership today,
>> the Gandhian's office has clarified that Anna (big brother) "*is now
>> focus on Janlokpal, Right to Reject, Right to Recall, Farmers problems,
>> Change in Education in System.*"
>> Recently the National Convenor of IAC Er. Sarbajit Roy has said that the
>> anti-corruption movement has differences with Hazare over the concept of
>> an
>> all purpose Jan Lokpal (People's ombudsman) tasked to look at petty
>> individual corruption as well as massive systemic corruption.
>> Anna's statement deprecating the fight against petty corruption is seen
>> as
>> an important step towards his reintegration into the present IAC
>> structure.
>> "Breaking News"
>>
>> - Anna retires from anti-corruption
>> war<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/anna-retires-anti-corruption-war-9170425>
>> - Clashes & curfew imposed in Kishtwar (J&K) after
>> riots<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/clashes-curfew-imposed-kishtwar-jk-after-riots-9170425>
>> - IAC unblocks website ripoffreport.com strikes anti-censorship
>> blow<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/iac-unblocks-website-ripoffreportcom-strikes-anti-censorship-blow-9170425>
>> - IESM's expelled President Raj Kadyan shoots
>> back<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/iesms-expelled-president-raj-kadyan-shoots-back-9170425>
>> - Rajya Sabha: 08 August 2013, Members to seek clarifications on
>>
>> Telangana<http://www.indianewsco.com/news/rajya-sabha-08-august-2013-members-seek-clarifications-telangana-9170425>
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Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: Dr. Swamy petition on EVMs in Supreme Court

As regard to the EVM... in my view, the software cannot alter the function of EVM but it's inbuilt embedded chip if made and embedded by the intention of vested interests only than it can be doubted otherwise not?

But

The use of paper is a wise act to wave-off the doubts and there should be no this..that..but questions. The hon'ble SC may suggest a solution to it if the Govt. & EC are of Honest Men Ria

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On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Lt. Gen. Dovedy dovedy <ltgendovedy@gmail.com> wrote:

My dear Satish.
This is getting murkier by the day. 
May I suggest that Gen Satish Bahri may  please be permitted to  arbitrate on our behalf & save the movement.

Regards,

Dovedy

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Madhukar Thote <mythote@gmail.com> wrote:

A good article. EVM can be easily manipulated by changing the software which can be easily done. It is not clear why Election commission should have any objection. The best option is the voting paper. Advanced Countries normally use the voting paper.

M.Y. Thote 

On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:20 PM, S K Jain <skjain84@gmail.com> wrote:

It is very much possible that firmware can be fixed. You press any button, vote will go to desired candidate. 

If you look at the credentials of persons who were responsible for fixing of the firmware (software embedded in hardware), you may find sudden jump in their career graph.


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Re: [IAC#RG] Anna retires from anti-corruption war

Dear Sir, Jai Hind

You all are precious sons of bhaarat maa who has taken such initiative with the inspiration Anna or may it be reverse too but doesn't matter as regard to yours aim! Come out from the fray of apolitical to corruption, r.t.r. r.t.b etc. etc. It's a most sincere responsibility on your shoulders to let it be workeable on ground without paying attention that what we are and what are our priorities. Anna is so simple to hear and reply to a single volunteer's advices and questions but honest in his motive! What is urgent need to make him aware of all those arguing subjects. It will work and you will see that Anna will be on the same track what people needs!

Girendra Singh

A Volunteer of IAC

New Delhi.

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Mr Gaur

I shall be very blunt about this.

It is becoming difficult for IAC to collaborate with Anna (when time comes) if he, and the people with him, do not take steps to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. His choice of associates is also arbitrary, situational and opportunist.

Issues like Lokpal, Right to Recall, Right to Reject etc are complex LEGAL and ADMINISTRATIVE issues for which his organisation BVJA demonstrates no proper understanding, and persists in "dumbing down".

IAC does not believe in rhetoric but in deliverables. Neither does this IAC need any  certificate from Anna to go about its work.

I am linking to 3 recent articles on Anna. They are quite disturbing.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/lawyer-approaches-court-for-lodging-case-against-anna-hazare/412116-3-242.html
(Same issue on which I complained to Delhi Police 2 years back - misuse of national flag on Anna's motor vehicles)

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-07-31/india/40913770_1_jantantra-yatra-anna-hazare-organizers
(Same old problem of Anna accepting invitations from unknown people / organisations and fights over money - petty sums now - breaking out).
Six months back time when IAC discussed Anna's Orissa trip and faction fights there they covered it up. At that time they were fighting over Rs. 25 lakhs - now they are fighting over Rs. 25,000

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-08-08/news-interviews/41168495_1_anna-hazare-gandhi-satyagraha
(Prakash Jha on Anna - fairly incisive except for his argument that change will only come through politics, but a must read for at least one line)

"Gandhi being apolitical remained political right to the end and had the power. Anna was expected to be apolitical and had no knowledge of politics."

This IAC is APOLITICAL and yet, as you can see, we are political through and through.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:

10/8/13
 
Dear Sirs,
 
The Heading ' Anna retires from anti-corruption 'War is misleading.
It is too early to read into his' reintegration into IAC fold' At best it could be that he will continue under his banner and IAC under theirs but they may find common ground to carry forward the fight. He has clarified the issues on which he will continue the fight.
Regds
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RE: [IAC#RG] Raj kadyan

Whatever you guys do,  do it quickly and UNITE.   It is important that dirty linen is not washed in public like what these political parties do every day except when it comes to their salary and perks, RTI and criminals and also sand mining by mafias .

Please get together and if you feel have an emergency GB meeting and elect a new set.  Seshadri

 

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Dear Gen Kochhar

As an uninvolved person reading these mails, it is clear that MoDef and ruling dispensation have used time tested tactics of "divide and rule" against IES movement.

It seems that Gen Kadyan took the bait and is now trying to pass off the lollipops they gave him as major (personal) victories for the movement. I don't see a hint of an apology or regret in Gen Kadyan's mail.

OTH I also see a clique around the Gen.Sec Cp Capt V.K. Gandhi who are blatantly trying to politicise the movement with messages like this
http://iesmorg1.blogspot.in/2013/05/vote-power-of-veterans-by-gp-capt-vk.html
Such an approach is equally divisive and short sighted. In politics and war there are no permanent friends only temporary allies.

It is high time that IESs present a APOLITICAL united, highly cantankerous and aggressive nationwide front to the present Govt. to agitate for a very few of their core demands. The timing over next 3 or 4 months is perfect for this.

The point about "moles" is well taken. Every movement has them, so it is better that everything is done out in the open and IESM has a public website clearly specifying what they want in terms of their operational objectives and schedule of priorities. If I go to www.iesm.org I don't get a clear idea of what your movement is all about.

Sarbajit

 

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Mitlesh Kochhar <mitleshkochhar@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Dear Arun,

 

Let us not forget that Gen Kadyan is the Archtect of IESM. How can he ever think of destroying his own baby.If the politicians and bureaucrats are trying to split our organisation, why are we singling out Gen Kadyan alone. It could other moles also. If we wish to defeat the Politician-bureaucrat nexus, we must let Gen Kadyan continue till the next GB elections and allow the laid down procedures to take their normal course. I appeal to all Vetrans not to fall prey to the Machinations of the Manipulators.

 

Lt Gen (Dr) M R Kochhar, PVSM, AVSM (Retd)

 

 

 

Re: [IAC#RG] Anna retires from anti-corruption war

Dear Mr Gaur

I shall be very blunt about this.

It is becoming difficult for IAC to collaborate with Anna (when time comes) if he, and the people with him, do not take steps to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. His choice of associates is also arbitrary, situational and opportunist.

Issues like Lokpal, Right to Recall, Right to Reject etc are complex LEGAL and ADMINISTRATIVE issues for which his organisation BVJA demonstrates no proper understanding, and persists in "dumbing down".

IAC does not believe in rhetoric but in deliverables. Neither does this IAC need any  certificate from Anna to go about its work.

I am linking to 3 recent articles on Anna. They are quite disturbing.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/lawyer-approaches-court-for-lodging-case-against-anna-hazare/412116-3-242.html
(Same issue on which I complained to Delhi Police 2 years back - misuse of national flag on Anna's motor vehicles)

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-07-31/india/40913770_1_jantantra-yatra-anna-hazare-organizers
(Same old problem of Anna accepting invitations from unknown people / organisations and fights over money - petty sums now - breaking out).
Six months back time when IAC discussed Anna's Orissa trip and faction fights there they covered it up. At that time they were fighting over Rs. 25 lakhs - now they are fighting over Rs. 25,000

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-08-08/news-interviews/41168495_1_anna-hazare-gandhi-satyagraha
(Prakash Jha on Anna - fairly incisive except for his argument that change will only come through politics, but a must read for at least one line)

"Gandhi being apolitical remained political right to the end and had the power. Anna was expected to be apolitical and had no knowledge of politics."

This IAC is APOLITICAL and yet, as you can see, we are political through and through.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:

10/8/13
 
Dear Sirs,
 
The Heading ' Anna retires from anti-corruption 'War is misleading.
It is too early to read into his' reintegration into IAC fold' At best it could be that he will continue under his banner and IAC under theirs but they may find common ground to carry forward the fight. He has clarified the issues on which he will continue the fight.
Regds
JKGaur

Re: [IAC#RG] Anna retires from anti-corruption war

corruption at every steps. he must continue his war. we are with him

d k taneja

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:

10/8/13
 
Dear Sirs,
 
The Heading ' Anna retires from anti-corruption 'War is misleading.
It is too early to read into his' reintegration into IAC fold' At best it could be that he will continue under his banner and IAC under theirs but they may find common ground to carry forward the fight. He has clarified the issues on which he will continue the fight.
Regds
JKGaur
 

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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 22:23:05 +0530
From: h.r.bangia@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Anna retires from anti-corruption war

Thanks for updating.

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:58 PM, India News <indianewsco@gmail.com> wrote:

Anna retires from anti-corruption war

Murali Krishnan | India News Political Bureau, Delhi, Friday August 09, 2013, 17:32 pm (IST)
Anna Hazare, the veteran Gandhian and face of 2011's anti-corruption movement India Aganst Corruption has announced that his own outfit Bhrashtachar Virodhi Jan Andolan (BVJA) will henceforth no longer be tackling corruption issues at a personal or social level.
In an email circulated to Indian Against Corruption's membership today, the Gandhian's office has clarified that Anna (big brother) "is now focus on Janlokpal, Right to Reject, Right to Recall, Farmers problems, Change in Education in System."
Recently the National Convenor of IAC Er. Sarbajit Roy has said that the anti-corruption movement has differences with Hazare over the concept of an all purpose Jan Lokpal (People's ombudsman) tasked to look at petty individual corruption as well as massive systemic corruption.
Anna's statement deprecating the fight against petty corruption is seen as an important step towards his reintegration into the present IAC structure.

"Breaking News"

• Anna retires from anti-corruption war
• Clashes & curfew imposed in Kishtwar (J&K) after riots
• IAC unblocks website ripoffreport.com strikes anti-censorship blow
• IESM's expelled President Raj Kadyan shoots back
• Rajya Sabha: 08 August 2013, Members to seek clarifications on Telangana

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[IAC#RG] Ashok Khemka on Robert Vadra "Mother-in-law of sweetheart deals"

Ashok Khemka on Robert Vadra "Mother-in-law of sweetheart deals"

Rajeev Shukla  | India News Political Bureau, Lucknow, Saturday August 10, 2013, 12:57 pm (IST)

A report submitted in May by IAS officer Ashok Khemka to the Haryana Government questions why a licence, granted just a month after Mr Robert Vadra, the controversial son-in-law of Congress President Sonia Gandhi,  bought a 3.5 acre plot of land for Rs. 7 crore, added such value that DLF paid 58 crores for the plot just three months later.

Mr Khemka's report also says the Haryana government had shown undue haste in granting the commercial colony license to Mr Vadra and claimed that Robert Vadra falsified documents to execute a series of bogus transactions to sell the 3.5 acre land in Shikohpur village of Gurgaon to real estate giant DLF for Rs. 58 crore.

The report also alleges Mr Vadra's company, Sky Light Hospitality Private Limited, made no payment of Rs. 7.5 crore as mentioned in the land registration certificate.

• Ashok Khemka on Robert Vadra "Mother-in-law of sweetheart deals"
• Kishtwar Violence, Geelani calls for 1 day shutdown
• Kishtwar (J&K) cops suspended
• Anna retires from anti-corruption war
• Clashes & curfew imposed in Kishtwar (J&K) after riots

Re: [IAC#RG] Raj kadyan

All points n allegations must be discussed in a gen body meeting. This is no way   to allege a person in a organization or say words like terminate. Who r these people to terminate a president of an organization like this. The secretory must call a gen body meeting immediately to discuss the problem of the organization  before any further action.

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Let us not discount the efforts and contribution of others who have been working with him in Delhi. Personally I am disappointed with the unfolding events nevertheless if the bureaucrats & politicians have gained an upper hand in sabotaging our organisation it is unfortunate.

I do not think Saint Anthony deserves the Sainthood bestowed on him by all of us.

  

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RE: [IAC#RG] Anna retires from anti-corruption war

10/8/13
 
Dear Sirs,
 
The Heading ' Anna retires from anti-corruption 'War is misleading.
It is too early to read into his' reintegration into IAC fold' At best it could be that he will continue under his banner and IAC under theirs but they may find common ground to carry forward the fight. He has clarified the issues on which he will continue the fight.
Regds
JKGaur
 

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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 22:23:05 +0530
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To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Anna retires from anti-corruption war

Thanks for updating.

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:58 PM, India News <indianewsco@gmail.com> wrote:

Anna retires from anti-corruption war

Murali Krishnan | India News Political Bureau, Delhi, Friday August 09, 2013, 17:32 pm (IST)
Anna Hazare, the veteran Gandhian and face of 2011's anti-corruption movement India Aganst Corruption has announced that his own outfit Bhrashtachar Virodhi Jan Andolan (BVJA) will henceforth no longer be tackling corruption issues at a personal or social level.
In an email circulated to Indian Against Corruption's membership today, the Gandhian's office has clarified that Anna (big brother) "is now focus on Janlokpal, Right to Reject, Right to Recall, Farmers problems, Change in Education in System."
Recently the National Convenor of IAC Er. Sarbajit Roy has said that the anti-corruption movement has differences with Hazare over the concept of an all purpose Jan Lokpal (People's ombudsman) tasked to look at petty individual corruption as well as massive systemic corruption.
Anna's statement deprecating the fight against petty corruption is seen as an important step towards his reintegration into the present IAC structure.

"Breaking News"

• Anna retires from anti-corruption war
• Clashes & curfew imposed in Kishtwar (J&K) after riots
• IAC unblocks website ripoffreport.com strikes anti-censorship blow
• IESM's expelled President Raj Kadyan shoots back
• Rajya Sabha: 08 August 2013, Members to seek clarifications on Telangana

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Re: [IAC#RG] Anna retires from anti-corruption war

Dear Sureshan

Swarna Bharat Party already has 1 great idealogue and propagandist with it. So long as he stays in Australia I have no difficulty in meeting / joining with any small groups in India you wish to introduce me to so that alternative PoVs and formations can be explored.

Warmly

Sarbajit

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Sureshan <sureshandelhi@gmail.com> wrote:

dear sarbjit
it is time for u to step in and create awareness upon various small groups and re organize every one for reformation in system.

Re: [IAC#RG] Anna retires from anti-corruption war

It is a good decission to concentrete on JAN-LOKPAL/thank u

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dear sarbjit
it is time for u to step in and create awareness upon various small groups and re organize every one for reformation in system.

India News <indianewsco@gmail.com> wrote:

Anna retires from anti-corruption war

Murali Krishnan | India News Political Bureau, Delhi, Friday August 09, 2013, 17:32 pm (IST)

Anna Hazare, the veteran Gandhian and face of 2011's anti-corruption movement India Aganst Corruption has announced that his own outfit Bhrashtachar Virodhi Jan Andolan (BVJA) will henceforth no longer be tackling corruption issues at a personal or social level.

In an email circulated to Indian Against Corruption's membership today, the Gandhian's office has clarified that Anna (big brother) "is now focus on Janlokpal, Right to Reject, Right to Recall, Farmers problems, Change in Education in System."

Recently the National Convenor of IAC Er. Sarbajit Roy has said that the anti-corruption movement has differences with Hazare over the concept of an all purpose Jan Lokpal (People's ombudsman) tasked to look at petty individual corruption as well as massive systemic corruption.

Anna's statement deprecating the fight against petty corruption is seen as an important step towards his reintegration into the present IAC structure.

"Breaking News"

• Anna retires from anti-corruption war
• Clashes & curfew imposed in Kishtwar (J&K) after riots
• IAC unblocks website ripoffreport.com strikes anti-censorship blow
• IESM's expelled President Raj Kadyan shoots back
• Rajya Sabha: 08 August 2013, Members to seek clarifications on Telangana

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Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: Dr. Swamy petition on EVMs in Supreme Court

My dear Satish.
This is getting murkier by the day. 
May I suggest that Gen Satish Bahri may  please be permitted to  arbitrate on our behalf & save the movement.

Regards,

Dovedy

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Madhukar Thote <mythote@gmail.com> wrote:

A good article. EVM can be easily manipulated by changing the software which can be easily done. It is not clear why Election commission should have any objection. The best option is the voting paper. Advanced Countries normally use the voting paper.

M.Y. Thote 

On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:20 PM, S K Jain <skjain84@gmail.com> wrote:

It is very much possible that firmware can be fixed. You press any button, vote will go to desired candidate. 

If you look at the credentials of persons who were responsible for fixing of the firmware (software embedded in hardware), you may find sudden jump in their career graph.


S. K. Jain

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Re: [IAC#RG] Raj kadyan

Dear Gen Kochhar

As an uninvolved person reading these mails, it is clear that MoDef and ruling dispensation have used time tested tactics of "divide and rule" against IES movement.

It seems that Gen Kadyan took the bait and is now trying to pass off the lollipops they gave him as major (personal) victories for the movement. I don't see a hint of an apology or regret in Gen Kadyan's mail.

OTH I also see a clique around the Gen.Sec Cp Capt V.K. Gandhi who are blatantly trying to politicise the movement with messages like this
http://iesmorg1.blogspot.in/2013/05/vote-power-of-veterans-by-gp-capt-vk.html
Such an approach is equally divisive and short sighted. In politics and war there are no permanent friends only temporary allies.

It is high time that IESs present a APOLITICAL united, highly cantankerous and aggressive nationwide front to the present Govt. to agitate for a very few of their core demands. The timing over next 3 or 4 months is perfect for this.

The point about "moles" is well taken. Every movement has them, so it is better that everything is done out in the open and IESM has a public website clearly specifying what they want in terms of their operational objectives and schedule of priorities. If I go to www.iesm.org I don't get a clear idea of what your movement is all about.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Mitlesh Kochhar <mitleshkochhar@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Dear Arun,

Let us not forget that Gen Kadyan is the Archtect of IESM. How can he ever think of destroying his own baby.If the politicians and bureaucrats are trying to split our organisation, why are we singling out Gen Kadyan alone. It could other moles also. If we wish to defeat the Politician-bureaucrat nexus, we must let Gen Kadyan continue till the next GB elections and allow the laid down procedures to take their normal course. I appeal to all Vetrans not to fall prey to the Machinations of the Manipulators.

Lt Gen (Dr) M R Kochhar, PVSM, AVSM (Retd)