Saturday, October 12, 2013

[IAC#RG] AAM AADMI PARTY’S MONEY COLLECTION DRIVE

India Against Corruption

AAM AADMI PARTY'S MONEY COLLECTION DRIVE

Money power is the bane of Indian electoral process. Money power is the beginning of political corruption and with unending cancerous growth. It is distressing that all political parties have great faith in money power much more than people power and Aam Aadmi party has proved itself to be no exception.

Every political party collects money by coercion, threats and quid pro quo with commercial and industrial establishments and business men . Many political parties often organise functions where the political leaders are supposed to be weighed by silver, garlanded with lakhs of rupee notes etc. These are all obviously some methods of converting their black money into white for accounting purposes. Rarely, people donate money to these political parties voluntarily and willingly and even if done, it would not be a large amount. However, all the political parties claim that the money collected by them is by way of donation given voluntarily. Many say that they are accounted and may also give accounts which may be fake. Aam Aadmi party also claims that the money collected are voluntary donation.

It is reported in the media that Aam Aadmi party has already mobilised over Rs.10.49 crore and it still wants more and is feverishly continuing it's money collection drive.

If a party believes that it enjoys popularity and has the support of the people, it really does not need this sort of money. When the emphasis is on money power rather than people power to get votes, then certainly that political party will end up as one of any other political party in India. By indulging in such money collection drive, Aam Aadmi party has given one more slap on the face of the Indian voter and those who believe in healthy and vibrant democratic process under the guidance of honest and selfless leaders.

N/.S.Venkataraman

Email:- nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com

Re: [IAC#RG] PUBLIC GRIEAVANCE: Is Mr. Rajan the Governor of RBI or not ?

Aadhar is a humbug. The govt. is behaving as though they are Britishers who didn't believe Indians. It is more irksome that the Direct Benefit Transfer is linked to Aadhar. When one goes to register for DBT they ask for NPR (National Population Register) number which is not avialbale in Aadahr card issued by UIDAI. They say Aadhar is a fool proof ID card with all biometrics. It itself is faulty. Therefore refunding the subsidy for gas is in doubt. Both Population Register and issuanace of Aadhar are under the control of the government. Is that difficult for UIDAI to collect the NPR number and incorporate in Aadhar card? So public is harassed as they are compelled to run from piller to post. There is voter ID, driving licence, ration acrd, etc., all issued by government only as a proof of ID. Then why another defective card. With the news of snooping by the US and collection of emails and telephone calls clandestinely, Indian public are unwittingly falling a prey to the designs of the US with the collection of their biometrics. Should we require all such harassments? All white collar criminals and American stooges have ganged up and are cheating the gullible Indian public.

Dr. Thandavamoorthy

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] PUBLIC GRIEAVANCE: Is Mr. Rajan the Governor of RBI or not ?

Every step these people are taking is controlled by US interests.

Tell me if US bans Infosys, how much will share price of INFY drop and how much will Nilekani lose personally ? 45% of IT exports of India is to US.

His wife just sold some of her shares in INFY and raised 160 crores, perhaps to do social work like funding her husband's rumoured election campaign.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, premkumar sm <prem_kumar0007@yahoo.com> wrote:

is this really true?

its a bit hard to believe that Raghuram Rajan is a pro american guy as is Nandan nilekani..however i completely

agree on your point that aadhar is a waste of money..did we need to implement it in haste?what were we lacking

so much...if the existing systems are effectively implemented we wouldnt need another system...i really feel

there is something fishy indeed..

Thanks and regards,
Premkumar

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2013 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] PUBLIC GRIEAVANCE: Is Mr. Rajan the Governor of RBI or not ?

UIDAI Scam has many dimensions, let me list a few.

1) To make India into a "Police State" where all the people "not like
us" are compulsorily finger-printed and irised (bio-metriced) to
identify them easily. This is part of a US sponsored initiative after
9/11 directly under the "Department of Homeland Security".to profile
everyone who is not a US national. Data generated under UIDAI will be
stored on US servers and are available to US law enforcement bodies.
There is no privacy law in India. The "consent" of the citizen is
needed in the absence of any law making it compulsory for citizens to
give biometrics. This consent is being obtained deceitfully.

2) To carry out UIDAI scam, Indians with strong US links are being
placed in key positions. Ashish Nanda IIM-A Director, R.Rajan RBI
Governor, Nandan Nilekani, Narayan Murthy etc.

3) There is NO need for AADHAR. The heavens shall not fall if there is
no AADHAR.

4) Let us see the cost of this scheme (Rs 38,000 crores) for an
utterly useless project.

5) Rs. 12,000 crores on useless hardware, most of it sourced through
dummy corporations / or having kith and kin (you know who) of Congress
big shots as agents/representatives.

4) Rs. 22,000 crores on software and field empanelment to collect and
process biometrics. This is the biggest scam to benefit India's
bloated and now uncompetitive IT industry since Y2K scam. All the
money has already been looted many times over on stock market since
the market operators twigged onto this scam. The Czars of India IT -
INFY. WIPRO, HCL, Tatas etc are having a field day with this subsidy -
its no coincidence that all these person ares on IIM Board of
Governors.from where the UIDAI scam is being massively promoted.

5) Rest of the money is being spent on admin and infrastructure, to
set up a MONOPOLY "PSU" at MASSIVE public cost which will be
transformed into a HUGELY PROFITABLE private business very soon.

6) Citizens should not be happy / complacent about the SC order on
AADHAR. This is yet another collusive order obtained by UIDAI
scamsters designed to hasten Govt to pass a Bill to legitimise UIDAI.

Sarbajit

On 10/8/13, neeraj gupta <rashtra.rakshak@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is this UIDAI scam?
>
> Some one please explain.
>
> Regards
>
> Neeraj Gupta
>

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Re: [IAC#RG] Appointment of CIC

No ex- military officer will ever be appointed as CIC/IC. simply because all such appointments are by and for only the civilians.

On Sunday, 13 October 2013 12:12 AM, C K Jam <rtiwanted@yahoo.com> wrote:

I really do not know about Retired Army Officers & Prominent Engineers, but in the same state that we are talking about now (Karnataka),

a Dentist Dr H N Krishna was appointed as a Information Commissioner in 2007.

Apparently his only "eminence in public life" was that he was a dentist to the Deve Gowda clan.

Earlier he was the KPSC Chairman.

While he was the Information Commissioner, he was arrested by the State CB-CID !

Re: [IAC#RG] Appointment of CIC

Dear sir

I am Retd military nursing officer is there any placement in your team.

Lt Col Dhanalakshmi (retired)

On Saturday, 17 August 2013, GV Sreedhar wrote:

Your team can suggest appointment of Officers of Retired Armed Forces, Prominent Engineers and Doctors from civil domain.
Lt Col GV Sreedhar (retired)

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Lt.Col. Dhanalakshmi.R (Retd.)

Friday, October 11, 2013

[IAC#RG] Ref; suggestion of RTI

this time consuming and if u r not profession than there will no response to u'r RTI.

I facing so i wrote/thank u.

As mosquito repellent works in early stages and than mosquitoes becomes comfirtable.

it's like only/thank u

Re: [IAC#RG] Appointment of CIC

I really do not know about Retired Army Officers & Prominent Engineers, but in the same state that we are talking about now (Karnataka),

a Dentist Dr H N Krishna was appointed as a Information Commissioner in 2007.

Apparently his only "eminence in public life" was that he was a dentist to the Deve Gowda clan.

Earlier he was the KPSC Chairman.

While he was the Information Commissioner, he was arrested by the State CB-CID !

Re: [IAC#RG] PUBLIC GRIEAVANCE: Is Mr. Rajan the Governor of RBI or not ?

Every step these people are taking is controlled by US interests.

Tell me if US bans Infosys, how much will share price of INFY drop and how much will Nilekani lose personally ? 45% of IT exports of India is to US.

His wife just sold some of her shares in INFY and raised 160 crores, perhaps to do social work like funding her husband's rumoured election campaign.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, premkumar sm <prem_kumar0007@yahoo.com> wrote:

is this really true?

its a bit hard to believe that Raghuram Rajan is a pro american guy as is Nandan nilekani..however i completely

agree on your point that aadhar is a waste of money..did we need to implement it in haste?what were we lacking

so much...if the existing systems are effectively implemented we wouldnt need another system...i really feel
there is something fishy indeed..

Thanks and regards,
Premkumar

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2013 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] PUBLIC GRIEAVANCE: Is Mr. Rajan the Governor of RBI or not ?

UIDAI Scam has many dimensions, let me list a few.

1) To make India into a "Police State" where all the people "not like
us" are compulsorily finger-printed and irised (bio-metriced) to
identify them easily. This is part of a US sponsored initiative after
9/11 directly under the "Department of Homeland Security".to profile
everyone who is not a US national. Data generated under UIDAI will be
stored on US servers and are available to US law enforcement bodies.
There is no privacy law in India. The "consent" of the citizen is
needed in the absence of any law making it compulsory for citizens to
give biometrics. This consent is being obtained deceitfully.

2) To carry out UIDAI scam, Indians with strong US links are being
placed in key positions. Ashish Nanda IIM-A Director, R.Rajan RBI
Governor, Nandan Nilekani, Narayan Murthy etc.

3) There is NO need for AADHAR. The heavens shall not fall if there is
no AADHAR.

4) Let us see the cost of this scheme (Rs 38,000 crores) for an
utterly useless project.

5) Rs. 12,000 crores on useless hardware, most of it sourced through
dummy corporations / or having kith and kin (you know who) of Congress
big shots as agents/representatives.

4) Rs. 22,000 crores on software and field empanelment to collect and
process biometrics. This is the biggest scam to benefit India's
bloated and now uncompetitive IT industry since Y2K scam. All the
money has already been looted many times over on stock market since
the market operators twigged onto this scam. The Czars of India IT -
INFY. WIPRO, HCL, Tatas etc are having a field day with this subsidy -
its no coincidence that all these person ares on IIM Board of
Governors.from where the UIDAI scam is being massively promoted.

5) Rest of the money is being spent on admin and infrastructure, to
set up a MONOPOLY "PSU" at MASSIVE public cost which will be
transformed into a HUGELY PROFITABLE private business very soon.

6) Citizens should not be happy / complacent about the SC order on
AADHAR. This is yet another collusive order obtained by UIDAI
scamsters designed to hasten Govt to pass a Bill to legitimise UIDAI.

Sarbajit

On 10/8/13, neeraj gupta <rashtra.rakshak@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is this UIDAI scam?
>
> Some one please explain.
>
> Regards
>
> Neeraj Gupta
>

Thursday, October 10, 2013

RE: [IAC#RG] OVERSTRESSED LITIGANT COLLAPSES IN THE BOMBAY HIGH COURT.

Dear All,

Situation in country will hardly change without replacing the bogus Representation of Peoples Act, 1950-51 which is deceptive as there is no Public Representation Process after a person gets elected. The Act contains only the election process, hence, it is just election law and not Representation of peoples Act.

Intellectuals in the country must wake up soon to this major deficiency and conspiracy against the Democracy.

Best regards,

Navin Pandya

Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:58:47 +0800
From: raipankaj@yahoo.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] OVERSTRESSED LITIGANT COLLAPSES IN THE BOMBAY HIGH COURT.

The problem in India is that there are no checks and balances on the Judiciary unlike the two other organs of the State ~ Executive and Legislative. Therefore, what is required is accountability of higher Judiciary. There should be transparency for every citizen to know the basis for a person becoming a High Court/Supreme Court Judge.

Three other points: do Judges command respect or they use the draconian powers vested in Contempt of Courts Act to instill fear and stifle any murmur against the Judiciary? Secondly, does contempt of court work the same way in other countries as in India? Secondly, why are there so many judgments passed by the High Court which are set aside by Supreme Court? Who is responsible for the waste of money of litigants in approaching Supreme Court? Thirdly, what are the reasons why High Court Judges should not declare their assets and liabilities?

Regards,

Pankaj

Maj Pankaj Rai (Retd),
"Seemavas",
6074, Prestige Shantiniketan,
Bangalore 560048

Cell: +91 99163 57115

From: DR MC GEORGE <drgeorgemanayan@yahoo.co.in>
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Wednesday, 9 October 2013 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] OVERSTRESSED LITIGANT COLLAPSES IN THE BOMBAY HIGH COURT.

Hello friends
Our Judiciary is now performing not as one of the pillars - legislature. executive and then judiciary - but all pillars enjoined as one single all powerful body. Judiciary is now run by sadists, perverts and selfish elements. The judiciary has taken away/snacthed /usurped the powers of all the other factors viz. legislatur and executive. Of course the vital institutions of governance like legislature and executive have deteriorated to the lowest ebb and people feel happy every time the judiciary deals harshly with other entities. Judiciary suppose to go as per law and to oversee the activities of the executive to be with in the parameters of law. But now judiciary overplays as could be seen in the recent direction to implement the 'Gadgil committee report' on envirnment issues. The Govt. appointed a commission with Gadgil as chairman and submitted a report. The govt. appointed another committee to study the report and asses its impact - Kasturi
Rangan committee. All these shows the matter is still under the consideration of the executive and nothing like acceptance or order to implement has yet been issued by any authority which means it has no legal sanctity to be implemented. But the SC wants it to be implemented prematuraly. a real paradox.
Then the question of 'AADHAAR" the govt. made enough ground work and tested its efficasy in selected districts in various states and found the same effective to plug mischieves in the distrubution of subsidies and passed a bill in the upper house of parliament. Then tried to implement the same through out the country with an executive order qualifying all the parameters of law but our SC put a break with some ulterior motives.
A commission to look in to the vested interests of higher judiciary is the need of the hour.
Dr.M.C.GEORGE,ADVOCATE,INFAM(IndianFarmersMovement)National Trustee.
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On Tue, 8/10/13, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] OVERSTRESSED LITIGANT COLLAPSES IN THE BOMBAY HIGH COURT.
To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Date: Tuesday, 8 October, 2013, 8:39 PM

Please read my blog
' REFORMING OUR JUSTICE DELIVERY SYSTEM' at http://raviforjustice.blogspot.in/2011/02/reforming-our-justice-delivery-system.html
and support the online petition addressed to the President
and PM of India to constitute a National Judicial Commission
to try and punish guilty judges as per laws applicable to
ordinary citizens at http://www.petitiononline.com/jrandac1/petition.html

regards n bw

ravi

On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at
10:09 PM, Col Shivraj <colshivraj@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hon'ble Sureshan Ji,You have also
expressed your anger inside you but have not offered a
solution.

You are an esteemed Advocate and can offer some easily
executable short term and long term solutions.
Pl use internet and force the authorities to accept
your suggestions as has been done for the RTI amendments as
well as the famous Bill / Ordinance.We are with
you and will get you an All India Support.

regards
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On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at
6:28 PM, SURESHAN P <sureshandelhi@gmail.com>
wrote:

This is the visible decease in our country ,, but
no body wants to discus at length. if u tried to find out
reasoning for such delay u will reach to conclusion that our
governing system is based upon some outdated principles
which without any basis and support of logic or reasoning
,, unless and until u fight for change in
the existing system nothing will work ,, I hope various
sectors are slowly recognizing this fact .....

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at
9:27 AM, Forum for Fast Justice <fastjustice@gmail.com>
wrote:

OVERSTRESSED LITIGANT COLLAPSES
IN THE BOMBAY HIGH COURT.

MY 16 YRS OLD PIL HEARD
FIRST TIME: TERMED IRRELEVANT NOW AND DISPOSED
OF.

It was Friday 3-30 P.M. 27th Sept. 2013.

Bench : Justice Dhananjay Chandrachud and Justice
M.S.Sonak.

I was waiting for my matter to reach for hearing and a big
thud was heard from the chair just behind me. The full court
room rose on its feet and looked behind. Judges got up and
came down.

What happended?

A man collapsed with his chair upside down. Judges left for
a while to their chambers. People around turned to help.
Doctor was summoned from High Court clinic. Registrar
General was standing tense. Patient was in coma. It took 20
minutes for the doctor to bring him back to the senses.
Judges came to soothe him. He was crying with folded hands
before the judges in prayer posture who couldn't assure
him when his matter would be heard. They appeared helpless.
Judges went out for few minutes and resumed work again.
Meanwhile I asked the unfortunate litigant: 'Since How
many years are you fighting you case?' 'six
years' replied the man still crying while being taken
out.

Immediately thereafter my PIL No. 902 of 1998 reached and I
started argument. I was interrupted by the bench stating
that my PIL on the irregularities and corruption in junior
college admissions was based on 1997 GR (Government
Resolution) and subsequently several judgements of the
Supreme Court were pronounced on the subject, hence my PIL
couldn't be entertained.

I was appearing in person and said that I could argue the
matter in lieu of those judgements and justify every
contents and prayers in the petition and prepared to take
the utmost risk even at the cost of its dismissal. I said I
was not at fault in delay of 16 long years! But the judges
prevailed on their stand and 'allowed' me to file
another PIL! I argued in vain that it involved lot of
reworking and receiving info. through RTI and waiting for
days and days for the information to be received. Judges
said, they couldn't help. I further submitted that
during last 16 years I would have urged hundred times to all
Chief Justices to hear this PIL but in vain.

My heart cried from within for not geting justice to the
poor and merited students but judiciary as usual stood
insensitive.

If this is the fate of the Public Interest Litigations what
about private and government litigations pending since 20-30
years in almost all courts across the country?

WILL INDIAN CITIZENRY RISE IN REVOLT?

(Bhagvanji Raiyani)

Chairman & Managing Trustee

Forum For Fast Justice

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Re: [IAC#RG] Appointment of CIC

In the best of the lost while zeroing on an important attribute is knowledge of law,or good familiarity with legal principles. To be able to read for long(study infact) and have a good uptake are essential ingradients. Ability to write coherently and in comprehensible proper language is very important requirement. Probably an excellent decision matrix would hae lots of considerable facets,noyt being dealt with here,for sake of brevity. SPM DGP(retd) Chennai
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RE: [IAC#RG] KANGAL KIYA DESH KO, NIRBAL BANAYS FAUJ KO; BADNAM KIYA DESH KO

VETERAN AIR WARRIOR

If you are a true warrior you should have given me a convincing reply point by point. Instead of that you are threatening me. The fact is that you have no answer to my questions. As a citizen of India I have every right to question Govt. working and my doubts are genuine. Moreover why Praful Patel questions IAF move to bar PSUs from tender?

I never criticize any one with out any records. People like you have damaged the good image of the IAF writing this kind of mail. Behave like a warrior not like a politician . Majority of politicians try to avoid answering questions.

Please read the report given below:-

Thursday, October 10, 2013 | 09:54 AM IST

The documents reveal that, up to Sep 29, 2009, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) was indigenously developing 181 BTA for the IAF, dubbed the Hindustan Turbo Trainer-40 (HTT-40)

Retired Air Chief Marshal S P Tyagi, former Indian Air Force (IAF) head, faces a Central Bureau of Investigation chargesheet for allegedly diluting a single specification of the VVIP helicopter that India was buying.

In the Air Staff Qualitative Requirements (ASQR), the helicopter's service ceiling was lowered from 6,000 to 4,500 metres. This made the AW-101 helicopter eligible and its Anglo-Italian manufacturer, AgustaWestland, bagged the euro 556 million (Rs 4,377 crore) IAF contract for 12 helicopters.

That violation, now under investigation, is dwarfed in the IAF's purchase of the Pilatus PC-7 Mark II basic trainer aircraft (BTA), where at least 12 benchmarks were changed between March and October 2009, including some relating to pilot safety. These allowed the PC-7 Mark II, fielded by Swiss company Pilatus, to qualify and win an IAF order worth $640 million (Rs 3,780 crore) for 75 BTA.

Business Standard is in possession of the documents relating to this case. Asked for comments, the IAF has chosen not to respond.

The documents reveal that up to September 29, 2009, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) was indigenously developing 181 BTA for the IAF, dubbed the Hindustan Turbo Trainer–40 (HTT–40). On March 5, 2009, IAF laid down stringent performance benchmarks, dubbed Preliminary Air Staff Qualitative Requirements or PSQR.

These began getting diluted in September 2009, when the ministry of defence (MoD) permitted IAF to import 75 BTA through a global tender. Within days, the IAF issued a relaxed ASQR, in a document numbered ASQR 18/09. While the Pilatus PC-7 Mark II would not have met the earlier PSQR formulated for HAL, the new ASQR seem almost tailored for Pilatus.

Among the 12 dilutions Business Standard has identified, [B]the most worrisome is doing away with the requirement for a 'zero-zero ejection seat'. This allows pilots to eject even from a stationary aircraft on the ground (zero altitude, zero speed). The October 2009 ASQR does not require a zero-zero ejection seat. Since the PC-7 Mk II has 'zero-60' ejection seats, i.e. the aircraft must be moving at 60 knots (110 kmph), dropping the earlier requirement made it eligible for the IAF contract.

he PSQR of March 2009 required the BTA to have a pressurised cockpit, letting the trainee fly at altitudes above 15-20,000 feet. But the ASQR of October 2009 dispensed with this. The PC-7 Mark II has an unpressurised cockpit.

Also diluted was the requirement for good external vision from the instructor's rear cockpit, a crucial attribute in a BTA. The PSQR of March 2009 mandated a field of view of 'minus eight degree vision' for the rear cockpit. The ASQR of October 2009 dispensed with it, specifying only, "the rear cockpit should be sufficiently raised to allow safe flight instruction". The PC-7 Mark II, which does not meet the eight-degree specification, became eligible.

'Glide ratio' is another important attribute for a light, single-engine aircraft. The glide ratio of 12:1 specified in the March 2009 PSQR meant the trainer could glide, in the event of an engine failure or shutdown, a distance of 12 km for every one km of altitude that it lost. Which would enable a BTA flying at an altitude of five km to glide for 60 km, landing safely at any airport within that distance. But the October 2009 ASQR relaxed the glide-ratio requirement to 10:1. That is precisely the glide-ratio of the Pilatus PC-7 Mark II.

The ASQR of October 2009 also relaxed the requirement for 'in-flight simulation'. This permits the instructor in the rear cockpit to electronically simulate instrument failures, training the rookie pilot to handle an emergency. The PSQR of March 2009 required this facility; the HTT-40 being developed by HAL also has these. The PC-7 Mark II does not and the relaxation of this condition made it eligible for the IAF tender.

Other relaxations that made the Pilatus trainer eligible include increasing the take-off distance from 700 to 1,000 metres and reducing maximum speed from 475 kmph to 400 kmph.

On Monday, this newspaper had reported (Indian Air Force at war with Hindustan Aeronautics; wants to import, not build, a trainer) about a personal letter earlier this month from Air Chief Marshal N A K Browne, the present IAF chief, to Defence Minister A K Antony, asking for HAL's trainer project to be scrapped and another 106 PC-7 Mark II trainers be imported from Pilatus, a purchase that will benefit the Swiss company by an estimated $800 million (Rs 4,750 crore).

Browne's involvement with the basic trainer dates back several years. From March 2007 to May 2009, he was Deputy Chief of Air Staff (DCAS) at IAF headquarters, handling all acquisitions. Four months after he handed over to Air Marshal N V Tyagi (not to be confused with the former IAF chief, S P Tyagi), the IAF issued the ASQR, with the relaxations that benefited Pilatus.

Asked for comments, N V Tyagi told Business Standard the PSQR of March 2009 set unrealistically high standards for HAL to meet. These were lowered in the October 2009 ASQR because the IAF was going for global procurement. Lower standards would bring in more vendors and generate competition.

Says Tyagi, "The earlier PSQRs matched the performance of the Embraer Super Tucano, which many IAF officers considered a good trainer. But the IAF didn't believe that HAL could build such a trainer quickly. After a series of HPT-32 crashes (then the IAF's basic trainer), it was decided in September 2009 to buy 75 basic trainers from the global market. Fresh QRs were framed in order to bring as many vendors as possible into the tender."

The question remains — why were exacting standards set for a HAL-built trainer lowered when it came to an international purchase?

IAF diluted al least 12 benchmarks for trainer aircraft | Business Standard

Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 20:51:59 +0530
From: shona.guha9@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] KANGAL KIYA DESH KO, NIRBAL BANAYS FAUJ KO; BADNAM KIYA DESH KO

I take umbrage to Govinda Menon's mail, where he has done character assasination

of ACM Browne, he should be sued for defamation of character, we as veteran air

warriors would like to give him a military blanket parade should we ever get hold

of him physically. Since when Ajai Shukla become an expert in AIR POWER.?. .

IS THERE NO DECENCY IN THIS NATION?All mails coming to me from this

website I will delete in future.I do not want to be included in this page.FU

Wg Cdr Gautam Guha

VETERAN AIR WARRIOR

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Ranjit Rai <ranjitrai123@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Menon CC Friends in White,

A VIEW FROM ABROAD ON INDIAN DEFENCE ISSUES

Looks like India will be KANGAL again for defence as it was in 1991 when Op Pawan and bills for Defence and oil purchases contributed and PM Rajiv Gandhi got caught in BOFORS after Sanjay in HDW. Nothing came of both.

Innocent fine simple AVRO 748 pilot Rajiv lied in Parliament that Op Pawan cost no more than two divisions operating in India. It cost $ 3 bill.

Same picture appears today from abroad with a cut in operating planes and ships, ban on foreign tours and 10% spending cut and all purchases slowed even essential ones like 126 Rafles Squadrons for IAF, Helicopters for Navy and guns for the Army.......Cost of 45 MiG-29Ks operating with Vikramaditya and cost of 4 nuclear submarines and three carriers is still to hit RM Antony if he does a forecast. Foreigners do the study and foreign naval Chiefs are asking me quite sensibly..

CC OTHERS DELETE IF BUSY ..

THIS IS .VERY USEFUL GOVIND AS TODAY IS MY LAST DAY of FOUR WONDERFUL LEARNING DAYS IN HOSPITABLE VERY MODERN  QATAR ( Qataris want the best) in MARITIME SECURITY CONFERENCE WHERE INDIAN ISSUES OF SELECTION OF FIGHTERS AND SHIPS ETC ETC ARE BEING DISCUSSED IN CONFERENCE WITH OPEN TALK OF INDIA with world's most experienced folks. Some 200 many from EU USA and none from Russia.

See the list below. Every big company is here and ELCOME INTERNATIONAL from DUBAI, owned by an Ex Navy sailor Grewal and run by his brother in India and very smart Dubai US educated son who worked for Microsoft and 300 employees is one of the sponsors as the lead supplier of systems in GCC. Should make us proud of an EAR/PO(ELR) from the Navy. It has helped my status here and Elcome happy to see me present their excellent work in India.

Admiral Henry G. (Harry) Ulrich III, USN (Ret.), Former Commander, US Naval Forces Europe, US Navy
§  Tom Whittingham, Former Wing Commander, Maritime Security, Oman, Royal Air Force
§  Martin Davies, Admiralty Law Institute Professor of Maritime Law & Director, Tulane Maritime Law Center Tulane Law School
§  Former Danish Chief of Defence, Admiral Tim Sloth Jørgensen, Chief Strategy Officer, Terma Defense & Security
§  Professor of Law, Charles H. Norchi, Director, LL.M. Program / Director, Center for Oceans & Coastal Law, University of Maine School of Law
§ Cmde (R) Ranjit Rai, Vice President & Former Director Naval Operations,       Indian Maritime Foundation & Indian Navy
§  Vice Admiral (Ret.) Lutz Feldt, Former Chief of Staff German Navy and President German Maritime Institute
§  Hartmut Hesse, Former Special Representative Of The Secretary-General For Maritime Security And Anti-Piracy Programs Maritime Safety Division, International Maritime Organisation (IMO)
§  Phillip Cornell, Special Advisor to the Executive Director, International Energy Agency
§  COL Fred Stein, Distinguished Principal Engineer, MITRE
§  Dr. Robert D. Childs, Chancellor, National Defense University iCollege,  and Deputy to the President for Cyber and Information
§  VADM John W. Miller, USN Commander, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command/ Commander, U.S. FIFTH Fleet/ Combined Maritime Forces

Here are a few important updates on what we are working on internally that will help you plan your trip in partnership with our larger QMARSEC Team:

1.)  QATAR GOVERNMENT: We have successfully received the commitment on behalf of the Qatari government to have the inaugural QMARSEC 2013 Opening Ceremony attended by:
a.    MOI : HE Sheikh Abdullah Bin Nasser Bin Khalifa Al-Thani - The Prime Minister and Minister of the Interior
b.    MOD : HE Maj. Gen. Hamad bin Ali Al-Attiyah, Minister of State for Defence Affairs

I truly enjoyed your enlightening and other posts on IAF Squadrons, GRIPEN ,TEJAS, SU-30s etc and will keep clear of corruption as India is full of it and while politicians get the Booty .. poor service people do get crumbs in few lacs of favors, track 2s, trips or circuitous crores and become scape goats. So lets leave it at that ....

India in the last 8 years with wealth on top and with placing of huge orders with no leadership by Pm himself has corruption going down to the last wire from the Policeman to the IT man and MCDs. Its no secret to foreigners who operate in India. We indulge in it to survive.

On Gripen ...........Many agree and I had written as a controller that Gripen was the economical choice as 240 SU-MKIs long range had been inducted and TEJAS could be weaponised by SAAB/BAe but what beats all is how the IAF called it MMRCA which a Gripen single engined is, but included all sorts of LRCA HEAVY twin engines in the competition ...WHO WROTE THE QRs for the competition and were IAF not convinced they needed a twin engined JUMBO. Now Navigators and others are co-pilots .Please enlighten any one ???

Now with IAF fuel costs of C-17s and if 126 RAFALES and A-330 tankers are ordered and India's nuclear submarines, 45 MiG-29Ks and Aircraft carriers will see India in the next five years in economic trouble .........Defence orders will suffer as HAL and MDL are over stretched and Alcock Ashdown is broke to deliver even Survey boats.

I write all this as QATAR Air Force negotiator who did the 12 MIRAGE 2000 deal to sell to India
and all was agreed three years ago .......But tells me what happened and QATAR said go to hell. ANY ONE TELL ME WHO DID THE IAF NEGOTIATIONS AND WHAT HAPPENED? What is the Indian picture ?

In AW -101 I learn no body in India is asking why some one got the $ 200 mill in Italy from India in the AW-101 contract as Italy's Geraldo Genarro Chief of Intelligence now Chairman CEO of FINMECCANICA is proving that unless India gives Italy all the MOD PMO papers which are like COALGATE the case  cannot prosecute any one in Italy. Js(air) knew all this. I learnt Italy have all the telephone conversations from Swiss based agents of Westland. CAN ANY ONE HELP ANSWER BELOW TODAY. Nothing will come of this case.

1. Why was tested and cheaper Sirkosy S-92 rejected...QATAR flies S-92 as VIP.
2. Was Disc loading checked ...which Indian VIP birds need and MI-8 and S-92 have .
3. There was no AW-101 in the world so the Merlin was tested and in UK.....?????? who agreed and why ?.

4. How did NSA and Chief of NSG take the final decisions ?.
5. What is the Dubai connection ?.

CAN ANY ONE THROW L GHT ???? SOON on above questions.

QATAR is finally deciding which OPVs and MMRCA fighters and Maritime systems to buy and is looking at India's choice in detail so all companies are here wooing them like they did in India and pumping me and others with stories of Indian choice how the RAFALE was chosen and wonder when it will be signed

QATAR is the richest country in the world with 2 mill people with $ 24 Bill GDP and per capita of $ 105,000 and last year Qatar doubled the salary of Government employees and water, electricity and water is free and there is no Income tax. I tell them India has 1.3 bill people per capita is $ 1200 but GDP is $ 1.3 trill with poverty galore.

I am selling TEJAS here as I tried and almost succeeded in Singapore who wanted to partner India and make 30 % in Singapore in the 90s and DRDO refused ....Qatar would like that as it has MONEY......I am on to it. Any ideas .....to set up mini HAL here.

RR

On 8 October 2013 10:41, govindan menon <tcgmenon@hotmail.com> wrote:

Fighter planes.

Mig -21 plane is being operated by a single pilot. Majority of fighter planes in the world are operated by only one pilot, except Rafael and Euro fighter Typhoon. Russians are operating Sukhoi planes with single pilot. But IAF had asked the Russians to modify the plane and make it suitable for two pilots. The exact reason for this request is not known. Perhaps the idea is to by -pass Swedish- make Gripen . The person who asked for two seater Plane has no consideration for human life. Americans have started using Drones to minimize loss of human life. It is easy to get fighter planes, but training a pilot is time consuming. This will create shortage of pilots in the long run. So over a period of time there will be enough planes but there will be shortage of pilots.

Swedish Gripen fighter planes are the best replacement for Mig-21.Its specification matches with Mig-21. Its operating cost is the lowest in the world ( $ 3000 per hour), where as Rafael' s operating cost is $.17000. Another advantage is that Gripen was using the same GE engine which we are using in Tejas. Swedish company Volvo has developed a suitable engine for Gripen as a replacement for GE engine. The financial condition of Gripen is not sound. So Govt. of India should have tried to acquire the company(Gripen) like Tatas acquired Corus instead of spending on Rafael planes. This could have solved two problems - one is a suitable replacement for Mig-21 and the other is a suitable engine for Tejas. We cannot depend on USA. They can impose sanction at any time.

e equivalent to SU 30 MKi fighter plane . It is better than Thyfoon   and Rafeal . More over Tejas Mark I is e better than Mig 21. Read this report.

It is time to induct the Tejas into the IAF in large numbers, not just to phase out the MiG-21, but also to let line pilots develop confidence in the fighter and allow their feedback to inform further development.

Firstly, as testified by the IAF test pilots who have flown the Tejas through more than a thousand hours of flight-testing, the current version of the fighter, i.e. the Tejas Mark I, is already a world-class fighter that has achieved most performance landmarks that the IAF had demanded. It flies at Mach 1.6 (about 2,000 kmph), a speed that the IAF is satisfied with. Its state-of-the-art quadruplex digital flight control system makes it a maneuverable and easy-to-fly fighter, unlike the unforgiving MiG-21 that it is slated to replace. The Tejas has not had a single accident so far, testifying to the stability of its design.

Another key measure of a fighter's capability is the Angle of Attack (AoA) it can achieve. The higher the AoA, the more lift that is generated, allowing a fighter to get airborne at slower speeds from short airstrips, e.g. aircraft carriers. The IAF had demanded an AoA of 26 degrees for the Tejas. The Tejas has already been tested to 24 degrees, and is on course to achieve that target.

Says Air Commodore (Retd) Parvez Khokhar, who was for years the chief test pilot of the Tejas programme: "The Tejas Mark I is far superior to the MiG-21 fleet that the IAF would have to operate to the end of this decade. In key respects, it is a better fighter than even the Mirage 2000. The Tejas Mark I should enter the IAF's combat fleet in larger numbers and the Tejas Mark II scaled down. This would allow the air force to retire the MiG-21 fleet sooner."

For this, the MoD must review its current plan to build just forty Tejas Mark I fighters, and embark upon another risky adventure to develop a more powerful, capable fighter. Since this would take at least four years of development work, the IAF would not start receiving the Tejas Mark II until 2018.

Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 11:31:34 +0800
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Subject: [IAC#RG] KANGAL KIYA DESH KO, NIRBAL BANAYS FAUJ KO; BADNAM KIYA DESH KO

KANGAL KIYA DESH KO, NIRBAL BANAYS FAUJ KO; BADNAM KIYA DESH KO

IAF chief nervous over biggest defence deal

Three months before he hangs up his flying boots, Indian Air Force chief Air Chief Marshal N.A.K. Browne has expressed nervousness and uncertainty for the first time over the country's largest-ever military contract currently under negotiation: the $20-billion medium multirole combat aircraft (MMRCA) deal for 126 French-built Rafale fighters.Browne, who has expressed consistent optimism that a deal would be signed by the end of 2013, has struck his first note of anxiousness, no longer willing to put a time-frame to the deal, providing perhaps the clearest indication that it could be delayed.
"We have no back-up plan. If the MMRCA deal isn't signed, there will be a rapid decline in fighter numbers between 2017 and 22. It is imperative that the deal is signed quickly," Browne said at his annual press conference on Friday.
The IAF celebrates its 81st Air Force Day on October 8.
"Negotiations on the MMRCA are still on. Cannot place a timeline on when the deal will be signed. If the deal is delayed till next year, the first aircraft will arrive only in 2017," the chief said.
Over the past 18 months, the Chief has consistently sounded hopeful, assured that the deal would be signed variously by early 2013, mid-2013 and end 2013. For the first time, he doesn't sound so sure anymore.
The sudden death on Wednesday of Arun Kumar Bal, the Ministry of Defence's pointsperson on acquisitions and specifically the MMRCA deal, is tragic, and a major setback to the deal, since he was fully in control of the acquisition, said Browne.
Bal had suffered a massive heart attack earlier this week near his Delhi residence.
The Defence Ministry has been in contract negotiations with the Rafale's maker Dassault Aviation for over 18 months now, in a matrix of highly complex discussions over offsets, transfer of technology, maintenance and several other heads in what is easily the country's most strenuous acquisition effort.
In January 2012, the Dassault Rafale was won the high-voltage competition, defeating the European Typhoon and four other jets, including the US-built F-16, F/A-18, Sweden's Gripen and the Russian MiG-35.The Indian Air Force currently operates 34 combat aircraft squadrons, comprised of Su-30 MKIs, MiG-21s, MiG-29s, Mirage 2000s, MiG-27s and Jaguars.
Against a sanctioned strength of 42 squadrons, this already represents a serious shortfall.
Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/iaf-chief-nervous-over-biggest-defence-deal/1/313111.html

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Re: [IAC#RG] PUBLIC GRIEAVANCE: Is Mr. Rajan the Governor of RBI or not ?

Dear Sir,

Good Day.I think we stand good chance in Supreme Court on Adhar if we can:

1.Show that application form item sl 8 "I have no objection to the UIDAI sharing information provided by me to the UIDAI with agencies

engaged in delivery of welfare services" consent obtained is by fraud as even educated find it difficult to estimate its coverage.hence a yes by a villager is not a informed consent but fraud.

2.SC can get random samples to find via forensics that consent was not by individual but some agent.

3.Definition of welfare services is vague.Needs codification exactly which service.

4.What if service is being out sourced to private player?

5.Certificates issued by revenue officials traditionally like income certificate, caste certificate or RTO driving license or ECI voter ID have lost sanctity due corrupt officials not citizens.But pass port still has some respect as verified by police.Hence if biometrics is required, then it must for officials.By linking every certificate with officials bio, we will immediate know an official is corrupt when more than two turn out faulty.Dismiss him immediately and problem is solved. NO NEED OF CITIZEN BIO.

6.INVOKE MAHATMA GANDHI IN AFRICA: HIS FIRST SATYAGRAHA WAS FOR REFUSING TO GIVE FINGER PRINTS.MG SAID " WE ARE THE FREE CITIZENS OF BRITISH EMPIRE NOT THE CRIMINALS.HENCE REFUSE TO GIVE FINGER PRINTS" .[ SEE RICHARD ATTENBOROUGH GANDHI]

Regards

Bhujang

9900115053

On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 8:44 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

UIDAI Scam has many dimensions, let me list a few.

1) To make India into a "Police State" where all the people "not like
us" are compulsorily finger-printed and irised (bio-metriced) to
identify them easily. This is part of a US sponsored initiative after
9/11 directly under the "Department of Homeland Security".to profile
everyone who is not a US national. Data generated under UIDAI will be
stored on US servers and are available to US law enforcement bodies.
There is no privacy law in India. The "consent" of the citizen is
needed in the absence of any law making it compulsory for citizens to
give biometrics. This consent is being obtained deceitfully.

2) To carry out UIDAI scam, Indians with strong US links are being
placed in key positions. Ashish Nanda IIM-A Director, R.Rajan RBI
Governor, Nandan Nilekani, Narayan Murthy etc.

3) There is NO need for AADHAR. The heavens shall not fall if there is
no AADHAR.

4) Let us see the cost of this scheme (Rs 38,000 crores) for an
utterly useless project.

5) Rs. 12,000 crores on useless hardware, most of it sourced through
dummy corporations / or having kith and kin (you know who) of Congress
big shots as agents/representatives.

4) Rs. 22,000 crores on software and field empanelment to collect and
process biometrics. This is the biggest scam to benefit India's
bloated and now uncompetitive IT industry since Y2K scam. All the
money has already been looted many times over on stock market since
the market operators twigged onto this scam. The Czars of India IT -
INFY. WIPRO, HCL, Tatas etc are having a field day with this subsidy -
its no coincidence that all these person ares on IIM Board of
Governors.from where the UIDAI scam is being massively promoted.

5) Rest of the money is being spent on admin and infrastructure, to
set up a MONOPOLY "PSU" at MASSIVE public cost which will be
transformed into a HUGELY PROFITABLE private business very soon.

6) Citizens should not be happy / complacent about the SC order on
AADHAR. This is yet another collusive order obtained by UIDAI
scamsters designed to hasten Govt to pass a Bill to legitimise UIDAI.

Sarbajit

On 10/8/13, neeraj gupta <rashtra.rakshak@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is this UIDAI scam?
>
> Some one please explain.
>
> Regards
>
> Neeraj Gupta
>
>

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