Re: [HumJanenge] Overwhelming response against Lokpal Bill clauses

Thanks to sarabjit roy , It is a good job , Our Karnataka Chief minister reply not seen in the lokpal web site , All congress ruled states are stick to their high comand , They are not using thier brain , they have not given any independent opinion on lokpal bill questionare

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

The responses of the Political parties are even more interesting :-)

Sarbajit

On 6/11/11, Amit Kumar <in4tunio@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looking at the responses of the Chief Ministers, a few things are clear:
>
> 1. The states governed by Congress need not be consulted as they do not
> provide any feedback, only stating they will follow the high command. Among
> these, only the chief minister of Delhi seems to have something to say.
> 2. States ruled by BJP all have the same reply.
>
> Only the Delhi and Manipur Chief Ministers actually answered the questions
> asked by the Center.
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> http://persmin.nic.in/Lokpal_Index.asp
>>
>> <smile>
>>
>

Re: [HumJanenge] Overwhelming response against Lokpal Bill clauses

The responses of the Political parties are even more interesting :-)

Sarbajit

On 6/11/11, Amit Kumar <in4tunio@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looking at the responses of the Chief Ministers, a few things are clear:
>
> 1. The states governed by Congress need not be consulted as they do not
> provide any feedback, only stating they will follow the high command. Among
> these, only the chief minister of Delhi seems to have something to say.
> 2. States ruled by BJP all have the same reply.
>
> Only the Delhi and Manipur Chief Ministers actually answered the questions
> asked by the Center.
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> http://persmin.nic.in/Lokpal_Index.asp
>>
>> <smile>
>>
>

Re: [HumJanenge] Overwhelming response against Lokpal Bill clauses

You are doing wonderful work to communicate the

developments and authentic information...

Thanks n regards

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From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 7:52:06 AM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Overwhelming response against Lokpal Bill clauses

http://persmin.nic.in/Lokpal_Index.asp

<smile>

[HumJanenge] incompetence and lackey-ism among the politicians cause of corrution too

That kind of ridiculous servitude & lackey-ism of our political leaders are  the most serious ill symptom of our society... it is the cause of unchecked corruption by the political leadership, especially by the caucus/dynasty at the helm of affairs of each party ... As the lower level is not competent & bold enough to object against the corrupt practices of the higher leadership... and they also emulate the corrupt practices.

 

Sudhakaran

  

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Looking at the responses of the Chief Ministers, a few things are clear:

1. The states governed by Congress need not be consulted as they do not provide any feedback, only stating they will follow the high command. Among these, only the chief minister of Delhi seems to have something to say. 

2. States ruled by BJP all have the same reply.

Only the Delhi and Manipur Chief Ministers actually answered the questions asked by the Center. 

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

http://persmin.nic.in/Lokpal_Index.asp

<smile>

[HumJanenge] My fresh Public Grievance pertaining to Lok Pal Bill

To:

The Secretary,
Department of Personnel & Training

By EMAIL

Dear Madam

I am reluctantly caused to complain to you concerning the quality and bonafides of private persons nominated for the Joint Drafting Committee for Lok Pal Bill (which is under your purview), specifically Mr Prashanth Bhushan (Advocate).

I am appending an email forwarded to me by one Justice (Retd) Kamleshwar Nath alongwith comments of Mr Prashanth Bhushan asking for wide publication / circulation of a scandalous email (attached) defaming his co Committee member and Union Home Minister Mr P.C.Chidambaram.

As your department's CPIO  has still not informed me why Mr Bhushan was appointed to the Joint Drafting Committee instead of myself, I further complain to you that in view of Mr Bhushan's comments I insist (as guaranteed u/a 19) to be provided a formal opportunity of submitting my comments / objections / suggestions via a public consultation process on the draft LokPal Bill as and when it is finalised or placed before Parliament as is the usual practice.

Kindly also place this email and its annexure on the official record of the Joint Drafting Committee or forward it to the Convenor / Secretary thereof to be placed on record.

With best Wishes

Sarbajit Roy
B-59 Defence Colony
New Delhi 110024

Tel : 09311448069

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From: Justice Kamleshwar Nath <justicekn@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:17 PM
Subject: FW: chidambaram
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Dear All,

 

            Forwarding herewith an eye opener on P. Chidambaram Minister who presided over violence on peaceful fasting Satyagrahis at Ramlila Grounds New Delhi at midnight of 4^th/5^th June 2011.

 

            Knowledge is strength; let People know.

 

            Regards,

                  KN

 

 

 

 

 

From the Desk of :

Justice Kamleshwar Nath

Retd.	:	Up-Lokayukta ( Karnataka ), Vice Chairman – C.A.T ( Allahabad ), Judge – High Court ( Lucknow & Allahabad )
Address	:	`Gunjan', C - 105, Niralanagar, Lucknow : 226 020. Uttar Pradesh, India
Phone(s)	:	+91-522-2789033 & +91-522-4016459. Mobile : +91-9415010746

 

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Subject: Fwd: chidambaram

 

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Prashant Bhushan <prashantbhush@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:28 PM
Subject: Fwd: chidambaram
To:


Dears All,

read this outstanding article by Arun Agarwal on why chidambaram fears the Lokpal and put it on as many websites and magazines as you can. Disseminate it as widely as you can.

Warmly,

Prashant 

 

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: arun agrawal <angrywal@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:41 AM
Subject: chidambaram
To: Prashant Bhushan <prashantbhush@gmail.com>, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com>, arvind kejariwal <parivartanindia@gmail.com>, Parivartan <parivartan_india@rediffmail.com>

Please go through the attached file on Chidambaram.
BR
Arun

 

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Re: [HumJanenge] Where India heading?

Baba Ramdev appeared to be in competition with Anna Hazare and his hurry to go on a fast only weakened Anna's efforts and the common man's chance to come under a united front! Having said that the swooping down by the police on peacefully sleeping people at Ramleela maidan is remniscent of treachery notwithstanding the fact that no visiting dignitory to Delhi Air port received a reception as magnanimous as Ramdev received! Every politician stress that  our protest should be peaceful and non violent but that aweful night it gave an impression that the Police appear to be having a licence to be violent by attacking unarmed people protesting for a genuine cause and anyone opposing that must be from the bandwagon of corrupt which is proved beyond doubt by the frequency with which massive scams are occuring under the very nose of the government. Attempt by people who matter and the common man to impress upon the powers that be on the gravity corruption over years in and years out drew flak! If person like Ramdev who grew with his own efforts, can afford plenty and carry on with his business has to raise the issue off corruption crippling our country it only amounts to say that there is something terribly wrong with our system! Turning deaf ear endlessly by powers that be to genuine issues, sustained discrimination, disparity, neglect, suppression, inequitable distribution and so on coupled  with not even the least of efforts put in to alleviate poverty and starvation give birth to 'isms' like naxalism, terrorism, regionalism, racialism and so on and in the backdrop of that Ramdev's announcement to raise an army, at the spur of the moment is, to me, not surprising. Our government has been denying to its people and opposition the same way Pakistan is in denial mood over the last several years to Indian government and if Pakistan is  wrong in denying evident crimes that they have perpetrated as per indian government, certainly our ruling party is wrong in denying to its people and opposition answers(solutions) to legitimate issues that should have been done in the normal course of administration! Remember every Indian stands behind the government to affirm that our neighbor Iis at fault but the healthy debate/differences are on how the matter is dealt with!! One if the two, either rebellion or slavery is the result of suppression!!  --- On Thu, 9/6/11, Kumar Arun <kumar2786@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Kumar Arun <kumar2786@hotmail.com> Subject: [HumJanenge] Where India heading? To: kumar2786@hotmail.com Date: Thursday, 9 June, 2011, 7:34 PM                                  (Reaching Indians globally with your help, please do forward) Namaskar & Vande-Mataram, Something has gone dramatically & drastically wrong under the cozy environment of Patanjali Yogpeeth (Haridwar). Baba Ramdev has spoken words which will come back to him like boomerang, this was completely uncalled for. He and his subordinates taught the importance of a constitution to countrymen and life to follow strictly under the  law of the land. The countrymen followed his words but he himself is falling short in believing the very importance  of constitution. Is it not called hypocrisy? Although many many people believe that Baba Ramdev has no intention to actually form an army to react with the army of the constitution of India, his leadership will be questioned by all who believe in law of the land. There is  no doubt the damage control will take place but Baba Ramdev is going to regret that he should not have lost cool. The countrymen, specially low middle class and poor class is suffering from this drama. In stead of hoping for any relief, now people are simply confused about the real change in the attitude of the government. On the contrary, the government has reached its goal in creating chaos in the minds of supporter, who is responsible? The correct meaning for 'Satyagrah' has been represented to the new generation incorrect way. Many worried  about the Baba's challenge and its impact upon the youth. No matter how one rationalize the need of army trained in the campus of Pranjali Yogpeeth, begins to loose the intensity & momentum of the Bharat-Swabhiman. This is my opinion, what is yours? Respectfully, Kumar Arun Michigan (USA)

Re: [HumJanenge] An Open Letter for the Flag Bearers of Anti-Corruption Movement

Dear Sarbajit Roy,

I shall be glad to know relative quotes of Rammohun Roy and modifications by Ramakrishna Paramhans, Swami Vivekananda 

which you have linked. This will add to my perceptions.

Regards,

Mukund Parikh

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From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 10 June 2011 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] An Open Letter for the Flag Bearers of Anti-Corruption Movement

Dear Mukund

As you know the original texts of our ancient scriptures are not available to anyone. Nor are there any authentic or universally acceptable copies. I am relying upon the versions used by Rammohun Roy (and later with modifications by Ramakrishna Paramhans, Swami Vivekananda etc) - these are quite different from the versions generally used by persons outside Bengal so I do not want to be in any controversy on this score.

You may refer to your own versions and extract what I have said.

Sarbajit

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:31 PM, mukund parikh <mkppm@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Dear Sarbajit Roy,

Thanks for quoting in name of Bhagvad Gita and upanishads. Please give cross ref vis-a-vis your ref & quotations in holy scriptures.

Regards,

Mukund parikh

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Re: [HumJanenge] An Open Letter for the Flag Bearers of Anti-Corruption Movement

LOL Sarbajit, you sound better than a highly trained PIO who wishes to deny information without quoting Section 8 ;-) @Mukund, please re-read the Mahabharata, especially the concluding chapters where serpent king Takshak bribes the Kashyap brahmin on his way to save Parakshit with his knowledge of Sanjeevani. Manoj --- On Fri, 6/10/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> Dear Mukund As you know the original texts of our ancient scriptures are not available to anyone. Nor are there any authentic or universally acceptable copies. I am relying upon the versions used by Rammohun Roy (and later with modifications by Ramakrishna Paramhans, Swami Vivekananda etc) - these are quite different from the versions generally used by persons outside Bengal so I do not want to be in any controversy on this score. You may refer to your own versions and extract what I have said. Sarbajit

Re: [HumJanenge] Overwhelming response against Lokpal Bill clauses

Looking at the responses of the Chief Ministers, a few things are clear:

1. The states governed by Congress need not be consulted as they do not provide any feedback, only stating they will follow the high command. Among these, only the chief minister of Delhi seems to have something to say. 

2. States ruled by BJP all have the same reply.

Only the Delhi and Manipur Chief Ministers actually answered the questions asked by the Center. 

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

http://persmin.nic.in/Lokpal_Index.asp

<smile>

Re: 2nd Freedom Struggle Re: [HumJanenge] WE all have failed the nation

Mukund, I am not highly literate on political systems so can use only layman's language. And in that language, I will repeat what some scholar has said, "Democracy is not the best but it is the best we got". When I see countries in the world (including much talked about country- China), I can not but appreciate that saying. Indian democracy has to evolve and only Indians can decide in what way it matures. May be it will be better than what is practiced in US.

 

Regards,
Devendra Tripathi
Cell: +1(408)416-1848

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From: Mukund Apte <mdapte@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Cc: Devendra Tripathi <tripathidk@yahoo.com>; HG PANDYA <hgpandya@gmail.com>; Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com>; Col (Retd) Satish C Dewan <coldewan@gmail.com>; Prof 'Padma Bhushan' N S Ramaswamy <nsramaswamy@hotmail.com>; Prof R K Gupta India <cityju@rediffmail.com>
Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 5:30:02 AM
Subject: Re: 2nd Freedom Struggle Re: [HumJanenge] WE all have failed the nation


      Dear Sir,
      Do you really feel Democracy that we are practicing is good and effective to make all Bhaarateey people happy & comfortable with it? Please note that this system is really 'foreign' to us and was imposed by British and then continued by our Government even after 1947. Since ancient times this Democracy was never in vogue in Bhaarat and Bhaarat was known to outsiders as 'Suvarnbhoomee' and even foreign travellers have written that there was no beggar anywhere therein. There was no Democracy there then.
      Since last 60 years Bhaarat is using Democracy and Janataa is electing its representatives to rule over self. The people or voters rarely if at all elected parties but the persons whom they feel were their true leaders. In Democracy such people have no place and to do anything they have to join a political party. If that becomes ruling, then these 'leaders' have to obey the party diktats on everything and vote for those resolutions agreed by the party. Once become ruling, that party does not give any value or importance to the election manifesto that they might have declared for getting votes. They carry out their activities and resolutions as per their predetermined agenda. They do not accept any interference of Janataa in its functioning, nor they give any value or importance to the opposition parties in the Parliament. In spite of these 'obstacles' they carry out their programmes. During all the period between elections, they are busy in collecting money for themselves and their party and also trying to keep their vote banks happy, so that they can get elected in next election also.They have no time to worry for the Nation or the people therein. Just imagine with 45 lakh crore rupees GDP of Bhaarat, there are around 60% of its population does not have adequate food to eat for survival. Of all people farmers are committing suicides. It is surely not expected from a responsible Government? But this is Democracy.
       Government is merrily following Western culture abandoning our own. Do not think that the Democracy being followed by West in something superior odr different. Are you aware that just 5 years before the Democratic Party of USA had established Environmental Pollution Control Commission to ensure Industry mantains the Enviromment pollution free. They made some rules for indudtry to follow for this. Just last year the Republicans (who have majority in Senate now) warned the EPC Commissionesr not to make Industry expend more with environmental pollution aspect. Since they say that there is no proof that the pollytion is because of industrial activities. So USA also is nor concerned with Earth (leave aside USA). Whatever one party (when was in majority) had done, the other just dismantles the same when their chance comes. Is it the way the States are functioning?
      Just see any country having Democracy. You will find there are minimum two divisions among people and are continupously fighting for power (for themselves), isn't it? How can Democracy really give any comfort or happiness to people or any prestige to the country? In Democracy the Government always becones arrogant and cannot consider all people as their own. That is the problem.
      Actually, as Dr Ferguson, a historian in Harvard Institutes states in his book "Civilization: The West and The Rest" that the West has patented six applications (of Statecraft) since last 600 years and have offered them to the Rest. The Rest have started accepting them since last 100 years starting with Japan. USA as we see currently is in its downhill journey and none can expect it to come up in near future. Japan has also (apparently due to Natural disasters) going the same way. Please note that the author gives the applications an adjective 'killer'. One of them is 'Competition'. Don't you think Democracy is only Political image of Competition?
      Democracy is a systen of Government unsuitable to any country in the world. Since others have not seen any except Dictatorship & Democracy, they do consider Democracy better. But Bhaarat has known others from ancient times functioning very well. It is its responsibility to practice some effective one from our earlier times and guide others to it, It is our responsibility also as Jagadguru. Shaantiparv in Mahaabhaarat gives in detail as to what are the duties of Government and how they are to be conducted.
      With regards to all,
      ------Mukund Apte
     

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Devendra Tripathi <tripathidk@yahoo.com> wrote:

Whereas I also share the frustration at the present government, after huge scandals and what happened at Ramlila Maidan, we must not make it a simple party issue. Janata party of late 70s did not do any better (thank God, they were out quickly). Likewise Pt Jawahar Lal did do good by focussing on education. Rajiv Gandhi did do good by focussing on technology (rather than getting bogged down by we-need-drinking-water-and-not-computer  syndrom), PV Narsimha Rao did have foresight to open the economy (rather than getting bogged down by multinationals-will-slave-us-again syndrom).

 

Today India is largest democracy in world. Please do not understimate this fact.

 

 Having said, that, enough of this Govt. Its sins have overflowed and it MUST go at earliest.

 

Regards,
Devendra Tripathi
Cell: +1(408)416-1848

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From: HG PANDYA <hgpandya@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 10:02:23 PM
Subject: Re: 2nd Freedom Struggle Re: [HumJanenge] WE all have failed the nation

Hi Mr. Parvez, I do agree with u and our stratagy is silent and not attacking enimy. our politicians are also like that. They don't commit for any thing for the country. And now our own nonsense people, hungry for money, corrupt by birth, currency eating paste are downsizing the country. Our learned PM uttering nothing...and silent, inactive......helpless we are.

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com> wrote:

Jai Hind, Ketan.   125 year old monstrous party has shown the marg darshan to this Nation "loot by the Thugs, FOR the Thugs, to IMPOVERISH the Janta. This is party has to be give a "go by" in EVERY election, w.e.f. NOW !    Since the last 64 years ? ? ?   Has \ HAD India countered SUCCESSFULLY ANY of the MANY insurgents since INDEPENDENCE ? by ANY "means" ?  What do the Insurgents, SEPARATISTS; EXTREMISTS WANT ?  Good Governance, CRP; police OR . . . . during the last 64 years ? ? ?    HAD neta-babu, MEA;  ANY Foresight & \ OR Capability to deal EFFECTIVELY with ANY of our problems, the Chronology of GOOFS > Since 1948 Skardu to Kargil, to. . . . , to. . . . would have Read as Chronology of Accolades.   1948 Instead of taking Skardu (now POK) India went to UN   1962 Forfeited nearly 100,000 sq km territory in Aksai Chin & Arunachal Pradesh   1965 Instead of taking Lahore, went to Taskent.   1972 Released 94,000 POWs BEFORE Kashmir was SOLVED, for NOTHING IN RETURN   1999 PROMOTED to Governorship; the architect of Kargil "Intelligence" Failure  . . . .carry on . . . .  2010 & on . . . . 2047   We may not have had "sharam" at  al Sheik", nor the present FIASCO 15/16.07.2010       Lest WE Forget, at Agra a Pak Journo REMINDED us "Pak did NOT lose.  India LOST at that table; what it gained in 1971 WAR, by the sweat; blood & Tears of the Fauj & their Families.    India has such "budhimans \ hoshyars" * akalmands, within,  that it does NOT need Enemies without ?   Track Record is the best place to fall back on, to discern OUR FUTURE !    Instead of Endless TV debates on WHETHER to have or not, any talks.  Focus on IMPROVING India by ridding the "stupidity WITHIN"   Hats off to the Pakistani TV guests who tolerate incessant Indian Anchor's shrill interruptions. Listening to his own voice No one else can. . .  - - - -   VOTE FOR RASHTRIYA RAKHSHA DAL At Least, let us ALL; give a chance to a Party launched by a Fauji & vote, for ridding OURSELVES of corruption; better governance, Equity & Justice for Fauji Veterans.   Rashtria Raksha Dal requires OUR whole hearted support.   Thanks for your time. Best Wishes. Parvez Jamasji http://www.bharat-rakshak.com./IAF/Database/9834 http://www.geocities.com/siafdu/vc81.html   E      :   parvez1942@yahoo.com         :   parvezjamasji@hotmail.com   Tel   : 91-22-2412 1656 > 9 am to 9 pm = GMT + 5 1/2 hrs. 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I am residing in south Mumbai, currently represented in the parliament by Mr. Milind Deora, Congress MP. I am writing this to protest against the action at Ramlila Maidan. You all have connived with each other to loot the nation. PLEASE INFORM YOUR PARTYS NOMINEE AND/OR HIS/HER REPRESENTATIVE/WORKER/S NOT TO VISIT ME SOLICITING FOR VOTES IN THE NEXT ELECTION IF YOU/YOUR PARTY/LEADERS ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THE DILUTION OF RTI ACT AND ITS PROVISIONS. MY FAMILY HAS THREE VOTES AND WE SHALL HAVE TO RESORT TO NEGATIVE VOTING IF YOU, BEING MY GOVERNMENT/OPPOSITION. CANNOT PROTECT MY INTEREST AS CITIZEN AND ARE DESIROUS TO CONTINUE WITH THE ALL ROUND CORRUPTION THAT WE ARE FACING. I am sending a copy of this mail to other community members with whom I am in touch directly or indirectly seeking their support in this fight against corruption. We get the government we elect and I dont want to elect a corrupt Government. Satyameva Jayate. Jai Hind Ketan Modi Treat yourself at a restaurant, spa, resort and much more with Rediff Deal ho jaye!

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      With regards to all,
      ------Mukund Apte>>

[HumJanenge] Overwhelming response against Lokpal Bill clauses

http://persmin.nic.in/Lokpal_Index.asp

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Re: [HumJanenge] An Open Letter for the Flag Bearers of Anti-Corruption Movement

Every honest citizens of India is affected by the section 4 Task Force and the collaboration of these NGO traitors to destroy RTI Act. In every fascist regime you will always find weak and corrupt (disposable) condoms which the ruling junta uses. The problem is the Citizens - who are like sheep / brainless chckens being led to the slaughter house and being distracted by the "in flight entertainment" (India Against Corruption and fake babas). en-route.

In that sense, it is good that we have people like Mr Sahil Afroz who go "beyond headlines" and ue their enemy's own weapon (s) against them.

Sarbajit

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:59 PM, C K Jam <rtiwanted@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mr Sarbajit,

Is this some kind of Sec 4 disclosure from you ?

It seems you are being seriously affected by the Sec 4 Task Force !

RTIwanted 

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From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:20 AM

Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] An Open Letter for the Flag Bearers of Anti-Corruption Movement

1) We should accept that corruption is a reality which cannot be eradicated.

2) We should strive to be pure, devout and honest ourselves.

3) We should question everyone and everything.

4)  We should strive to be so perfect that every lower Truthseeker must learn from us. Similarly we should l;earn from more advanced/evolved Truthseekers.

What I am saying above is not my own views, but from the Bhagvad Gita and the Oopanishads,

Sarbajit

Re: [HumJanenge] THOMAS WAS APPOINTED AS CVC DESPITE KNOWLEDGE OF VIGILANCE CASE

Dear Mr Apte,

There are two issues - Letter & Spirit.

Action may be correct in letter BUT NOT IN SPIRIT since CVC is a watchdog on corruption & the gentleman considered was already under investigation and
therefore bad in spirit & consequently bad in law due  "  mens rea "

As per conditions or empaneling contenders , being under inquiry he was ineligible & thus appointment of o ineligible person must be illegal.

False propaganda against Baba Amte needs to be dispelled. He is NOT usurping legislative powers of parliament but only trying to bring to their notice the desire
of the nation for an effective, purposeful mechanism with integrity to control corruption by state machinery.

Other citizen groups have not been debarred. They should also join in to lend weight in right spirits - need NOT agree to all points.

Citizen


On 6/21/2011 5:15 AM, Mukund Apte wrote:

      Dear Sir,
      The appointment of Shri Thomas as CVC was done as laid down in our Constitution by the Government as per norms of Democracy with majority vote 2:1 in the selection Committee. Our Constitution lays down that a committee of 3 with a rep of Opposition should select one nominee from the panel presented by the Government to the Committee for the post. One member from opposition (in the Committee) opposed Shri Thomas. The Committee however with 2:1 did select Shri Thomas. Was not it done by Democracy? Yes it was. But it was proved to be embarrassing for the Nation.
      The problem is with Democracy. Once Committee is formed it is quite natural that the members from Government will be in majority (in the Committee). By observing majority principle of Democracy at any time Government can select any person (from the panel) that it wants. Actually what Constitution intends is that that person from the panel will be selected who has Least objection from all members of the Committee. That means the selection must be by unanimity in the Committee. Government surely may find this 'inconvenient'. And hence Democratic principle is found very useful for the Government. This is the condition in all such selections.
      Such Committee selections therefore must be by Unanimity to avoid such embarrassment to the Nation.
      With regards to all,
      -----Mukund Apte   

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Dwarakanath <dwarakanathdm@gmail.com> wrote:

Friends, this blaming game or pleading ignorance or innocence is a clear case of either favouritism or irresponsibilit.   All concerned in this decision making, beingg people in a position to get whatever information they wanted, before making a decision are found to be wanting in their assigned responsibilities.  If it were officials from any Ministries, ACTION UNDER their service rules must be initiated and whatever punishment or holding back increment or entry in service record MUST BE MADE.  If it was a MP who was found wanting to apply their full mind, they have the prerogative and power to take up the case that the vital information was not provided to them before making a decision and hence a breach of privilege and must initiate action thereon on the person responsible.   We cannot keep mum in this country unless we are a silent partners in the corruption and nepotism happening all around us.  If people in position and responsibility were to come clean they must take up their issue seriously, without resorting back to party politics compromising national interest.  The people have voted to them, as a delegation of their power and it is not that the elected people had the power suo moto.  If they cannot respond to the demands of the citizens under the guise of a certain volume of demand is needed for a certain initiation of decision, let them go for national referndum wherever it is needed.   

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:18 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

PJ Thomas was not cleared to serve on central deputation'                                                                                        Economic Times, 13.6.2011. NEW DELHI: After denying any communique from the Kerala government on the pending vigilance case against former CVC P J Thomas , the Centre has now made public a letter from the state which says he was not cleared to serve on central deputation. The Central Public Information Officer of the Department of Personnel and Training in an RTI response had earlier said no such letter was with them. But during the first appeal, Deputy Secretary R K Mittal overturned the previous reply. "After going through the relevant papers and official records, it appears that the CPIO was not able to link up the letter with the file concerned. Accordingly, CPIO is directed to refer to file...and provide the relevant information," Mittal said in his order. After the decision, the letter dated March 11, 2008 from the chief secretary of Kerala objecting to Thomas' deputation to the Centre was provided to activist S C Agrawal. The communique has punctured the claims of DoPT that it was unaware about the ongoing vigilance case against Thomas while short-listing his name for the post of anti-corruption watchdog Central Vigilance Commissioner. "P J Thomas, IAS, Chief Secretary to Government (Kerala), had applied for Central Deputation in 1988, but was not selected for appointment. Subsequently after 1992, he had expressed his willingness for central deputation, but was not considered because of ongoing vigilance enquiry/case. Because of this he was not considered so far. "The case has not been finalised yet. I may inform tha Thomas could not work at the Centre as he was not recommended for the same by the state government ," the letter from the chief secretary said. 60-year-old Thomas, a 1973-batch IAS officer of the Kerala cadre, was appointed chief secretary of the state in 2007 before moving to the Centre in 2009 as secretary, parliamentary affairs, telecom secretary and finally central vigilance commissioner. The government had appointed Thomas as CVC despite dissension by Leader of Opposition Sushma Swaraj, who was one of the three-members in the selection committee comprising Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Home Minister P Chidambaram. The apex court had later quashed the appointment of Thomas as CVC holding that the recommendation made by the panel, headed by the Prime Minister, did not consider the relevant material and, therefore, its advice "does not exist in law". The court had scrapped his appointment as CVC on a PIL by Center for Public Interest Litigation (CPIL) and retired bureaucrats and police officials, including former Chief Election Commissioner J M Lyngdoh , challenging his appointment in view of a criminal case pending against him. Later, the prime minister had said he was unaware of the pending case against Thomas and virtually blamed Chavan, who was MoS (Personnel) at that time, for the fiasco, contending that the key information was not provided. Reacting to it, Chavan said vigilance clearance was the responsibility of the state government. He had also said the central deputation of Thomas was on the basis of documents provided by the Kerala government. This argument was termed "baseless" by the then Chief Minister of Kerala V S Achuthanandan who said the Centre was duly informed about pending vigilance case against Thomas in 2008.

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