Saturday, January 7, 2012

Re: Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers

Dear All,
In normal course I do not participate in such discussion and continue doing my
work. But Mr. Roy is generally in a habit to engage people by extending and
enforcing on us, unsuspecting citizens. In my 25 year life as a journo I have come
across many Mr. Roys who likes to throw eggs on others at the slightest pretext.
Now coming to his posting on Mr. Prabhu, I wish to clarify that he is a
distinguished member of RTI community in Mumbai and Maharashtra. He has done a yeoman service when along with three other members he forced the state SIC to
direct the MCGM not to charge for documents at whims and fancies and made the
public authority to follow the rules in letter and spirit. It is because of Mr.
Prabhu that today Mumbaikars pay only Rs.2 per page for obtaining property
assessment documents for which prior to this order MCGM was charging a whopping
Rs.260 per year.
Now coming to the words "in defense of blackmailers" which Mr. Roy has preferred
to anoint Mr. Prabhu with. Being a journalist, I had faced the similar music of
being dubbed as a "blackmailer" by none other than Mr. Manmohan Singh, the so
called most honest PM. The issue was that as the FM he had introduced a scheme
called value based advance license which was subsequently deleted due to constant
campaign against it by yours truly. In one of the news piece on a particular Joint
DGFT who had issued Rs.400 crore worth of import license to import commodities
free of customs duty without being authorised. CBI had booked him and he had told
the investigators that he was related to Manmohan. I had inserted this in my news
piece with full knowledge of the background of the case being briefed to my
immediate superior. I had categorically mentioned that this officer claimed to be
a relative of Manmohan but the latter was not involved in the scam. Next morning
even as the paper hit the stand and delivered to Manmohan, after reading it he
called up my editor and protested that I was blackmailing him. My editor a
prominent name, shirked in his bed. He called up my resident editor and started
shouting at him. He in turn shouted at my immediate superior whom I had kept in
the loop before filing the story. This gent calls me to say that Manmohan has
termed you as the blackmailer for writing what was published in the day's edition.
On reaching office I went to my resident editor accompanied by my immediate boss
and asked him "do you know the meaning of blackmaling?' He was stunned when I told
him that blackmailing means you have done something wrong of which I learn and
contact you directly or indirectly to ask for some favour in cash or kind. Both of
you know that I had neither contacted Manmohan but had given him a clean chit.
Both my bosses agreed with me that it was not a case of black mailing but
inferiority complex that Manmohan suffered fearing inculpated in criminal cases.
The scheme introduced by him known as VABAL was deleted because of rampant misuse
by a few thousand importers causing losses to the tune of Rs.1 lakh crore and my
campaign forced him to delete. In that case even Chidambaram had as next FM helped
those who had misused the scheme through ill gotten double benefits by usurping
the power of a central excise superintendent and writing of duty worth several
crores. What is more intriguing is the CAG took notice of my news articles and
concluded that nation lost lakhs of corers but in the next report ractified that
there was no loss to the nation. I have narrated this story mainly for the benefit
of the likes of Mr.Roys who probably genuinely believe that they are knowalls and
they alone have powers to dub others with paints of their choice.
Let me brief you more case of Mr. Roy's bias. He had terms former CIC ANT as one
of the most honest and competent officers. Let me share my experience with all of
you that ANT had in one of my case referred the second appeal to the full bench
headed by the then CIC WH with SG thrown in. In my written submission I had
pointed out the errors in ANT's order referring the matter to full bench. This
made them feel black and blue and passed a 35 page order through which they
changed the game by making transfer under 6(3) to be treated as a fresh
application for which applicant was made to pay fresh fees. From where on earth
these gentlemen had drawn powers to introduce something which even the legislature
was not aware? And this order was subsequently cited as a preceding case law by
all the ICs. Recently during an public interaction with SG when I had raised the
issue he had no answer. He was also looking black and blue when I raised the issue
of sticking to rules in letter and spirit while dealing with RTI Appellants who
are not trained as professional lawyers. Even the Supreme Court waives technical
lapses when the litigant is not represented by professionally trained people. I
have experienced this even in Mumbai High Court.
Hence instead of fighting for non-issues and dubbing all of us with choicest
colours likes of Mr.Roys must concentrate on using the most potent weapon that
this democracy has empowered us with and strengthen the same. By calling Mr.
Prabhu or citing him being reported as a defender of black mailers, Mr. Roy has
not only undermined the role of Mr. Prabhu but has exhibited his extra ordinary
sense of being a ignorable pest. I reiterate that Mr. Prabhu is a proud member of
our community and deserves to be praised for what he is doing to the society and
Mr. Roys must desist from using his tainted brush which describes ANT whose ego
was hurt when his injudiciousness was pointed out to him.
Jai Hind
Ketan Modi
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On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 11:38:15 +0530 wrote
>Dear Mr Gupta,



My heading was "fair comment", and Mr Prabhu has appreciated it (and

the spirit it was made). Mr Prabhu's reply has also been fully

circulated to all concerned by me.


The "reality" is that in the law of India (such as IPC) if any one

(say Mr. "A") blackmails / extorts for a contravention by say Mr "B",

then Mr "A" is to be penalised (and not Mr "B").



Mr Prabhu continues to state that no, no first punish Mr. B then go

after Mr. A. It is RTI activists like these who are murdering RTI Act

by misusing RTI for a purpose it was not intended. RTI is not a

primary tool / weapon to be used to "fight" corruption. As the news

article states it is these RTI PARASITES who file multiple coordinated

frivolous RTIs in vexatious manner who are being (rightly) prosecuted

/ targeted by the State.



Sarbajit



On 1/7/12, M.K. Gupta wrote:

> The heading "Mr. Bhasker Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers" is in bad taste

> and far from reality.

>

> ________________________________

> From: Sarbajit Roy

> To: humjanenge

> Sent: Friday, 6 January 2012 8:10 PM

> Subject: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI

> blackmailers

>

>

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> From: Bhaskar Prabhu

> Date: Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:53 PM

> Subject: Re: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI

> blackmailers

>

>

> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Bhaskar Prabhu

> wrote:

>

> Dear Sarbajit,

>>

>>Thanks for twisting the issue and appreciate your way of coercive black

>> mailing. Any way we both are seasoned enough to face each other. Atleast

>> now you are less using the word "Ha..mi". I also know you are expecting

>> for me to respond as we had not talked or exchanged mails.

>>

> I stand by what I have said if there is black then there may be black mail

> by black sheep RTI users. Any applicant when he asks for information and if

> he finds wrong doing then some may see that action is taken but miniscule

> use the information other wise, let the authority take action and also

> correct the wrong doing done either by predecessor or by current officers by

> demolitions of illegal matters or any remedial actions to keep it as per to

> law of the land and also parallely investigate the matter if the matter

> concerns the black mailing by the applicant, and i don't think anything

> wrong in my thought, may be it is some thing different to your mind having

> twisting nature.

>>

>>I always say if any body wants to be stronger with intelligence for turning

>> the issues like inserting sugarcane by twisting it in sugarcane crusher

>> then learn from Mr Sarbajit the

>>

>>It was a very wide from you better next time

>>

>>Not a single authority is able to show any officer to be victim of

>> blackmailing. It is the builder who is sowing seeds of complaints through

>> the officers who are corrupt, who don't want to take action on wrong

>> doings by the builders.

>>

>>Why leave or allow the wrong things to happen so as to create any

>> opportunity for black mails.

>>

>>Such exchange of emails will make me stronger and happy to get doses from

>> you.

>>

>>Any way do you know anybody committed, to be a part of work social audit

>> who is in civil engineering side ?

>>

>

> Though I have not listed myself in the group that you have enlisted me, I

> cannot post it there so post on my behalf the message.

>

>

>>Thanks Sarbajit.

>>

>>Yours in service of RTI

>>

>>Bhaskar Prabhu

>>Mahiti Adhikar Manch

>>

>>

>>

>>On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Sarbajit Roy wrote:

>>

>>http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_pune-cops-to-crack-whip-on-rti-
blackmailers_1633390

>>>

>>>A leading newspaper has quoted Mr Bhaskar Prabhu as saying the following

>>> "The police should investigate which information has been sought. If

> found worthy, action should be taken against the authority concerned

> before punishing blackmailer."

>>>

>>>The DNA article details several tricks used by RTI blackmailers whom Mr

>>> Prabhu is defending

>>>

>>--

>>Yours in service of RTI

>>

>>Bhaskar Prabhu

>>Mahiti Adhikar Manch

>>9892102424

>>

>>Watch this Video ��®ुंबईकरानो- हाव्हिडियो बघा(��©० ऑक्टोबर२०११)

>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_Lx1HSvDI

>>

>>

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>>

>>https://sites.google.com/site/bhaskarprabhubmc195

>>

>>

>>www.facebook.com/mahitiadhikarmanch

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

> --

> Yours in service of RTI

>

> Bhaskar Prabhu

> Mahiti Adhikar Manch

> 9892102424

>

> Watch this Video ��®ुंबईकरानो- हाव्हिडियो बघा(��©० ऑक्टोबर२०११)

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_Lx1HSvDI

>

>

> Citizen's Independent Candidate for BMC Elections 2012

>

> https://sites.google.com/site/bhaskarprabhubmc195

>

>

> www.facebook.com/mahitiadhikarmanch


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Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers

Dear Guptaji

You will be pleased to know that Bhaskar has emailed me to clarify
that both Mr. A (ie RTI blackmailer) and Mr.B (ie pubic authority)
should be prosecuted "parallelly". I now cannot dispute the equity in
his position and agree with him that all RTI stakeholders must serve /
strive for this noble ideal.

Sarbajit

On 1/7/12, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> I have on several occasions condemned filing RTI applications without any
> purpose and do so again. Such acts will defame the Act and give a handle to
> RTI baiters to beat the RTI Act with this baton. All right spirited persons
> should oppose and discourage attempts to burden the govt. with RTI with ill
> intentions and for blackmailing the PIO. After all govt. is running with
> the money paid by citizens as taxes and the time of the staff should not be
> wasted.
>
>
> However, it is difficult to prove that the information sought is not with
> good intentions and is merely for the purpose to harass the PIO or Public
> Authority. PIOs and PAs will say that most of the applications are for
> blackmailing them. For them, all the applications are vexetious and
> infrotuous but many such applications have unearthed many scams including
> 2G, correspondence between Finance and Home Ministers on 2G allocation and
> on many issues.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, 6 January 2012 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
> blackmailers
>
> Dear Mr Gupta,
>
> My heading was "fair comment", and Mr Prabhu has appreciated it (and
> the spirit it was made). Mr Prabhu's reply has also been fully
> circulated to all concerned by me.
>
> The "reality" is that in the law of India (such as IPC) if any one
> (say Mr. "A") blackmails / extorts for a contravention by say Mr "B",
> then Mr "A" is to be penalised (and not Mr "B").
>
> Mr Prabhu continues to state that no, no first punish Mr. B then go
> after Mr. A. It is RTI activists like these who are murdering RTI Act
> by misusing RTI for a purpose it was not intended. RTI is not a
> primary tool / weapon to be used to "fight" corruption. As the news
> article states it is these RTI PARASITES who file multiple coordinated
> frivolous RTIs in vexatious manner who are being (rightly) prosecuted
> / targeted by the State.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On 1/7/12, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>> The heading "Mr. Bhasker Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers" is in bad taste
>> and far from reality.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>> To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, 6 January 2012 8:10 PM
>> Subject: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
>> blackmailers
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
>> blackmailers
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Bhaskar Prabhu
>> <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sarbajit,
>>>
>>>Thanks for twisting the issue and appreciate your way of coercive black
>>> mailing. Any way we both are seasoned enough to face each other. Atleast
>>> now you are less using the word "Ha..mi". I also know you are expecting
>>> for me to respond as we had not talked or exchanged mails.
>>>
>> I stand by what I have said if there is black then there may be black mail
>> by black sheep RTI users. Any applicant when he asks for information and
>> if
>> he finds wrong doing then some may see that action is taken but miniscule
>> use the information other wise, let the authority take action and also
>> correct the wrong doing done either by predecessor or by current officers
>> by
>> demolitions of illegal matters or any remedial actions to keep it as per
>> to
>> law of the land and also parallely investigate the matter if the matter
>> concerns the black mailing by the applicant, and i don't think anything
>> wrong in my thought, may be it is some thing different to your mind having
>> twisting nature.
>>>
>>>I always say if any body wants to be stronger with intelligence for
>>> turning
>>> the issues like inserting sugarcane by twisting it in sugarcane crusher
>>> then learn from Mr Sarbajit the
>>>
>>>It was a very wide from you better next time
>>>
>>>Not a single authority is able to show any officer to be victim of
>>> blackmailing. It is the builder who is sowing seeds of complaints through
>>> the officers who are corrupt, who don't want to take action on wrong
>>> doings by the builders.
>>>
>>>Why leave or allow the wrong things to happen so as to create any
>>> opportunity for black mails.
>>>
>>>Such exchange of emails will make me stronger and happy to get doses from
>>> you.
>>>
>>>Any way do you know anybody committed, to be a part of work social audit
>>> who is in civil engineering side ?
>>>
>>
>> Though I have not listed myself in the group that you have enlisted me, I
>> cannot post it there so post on my behalf the message.
>>
>>
>>>Thanks Sarbajit.
>>>
>>>Yours in service of RTI
>>>
>>>Bhaskar Prabhu
>>>Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_pune-cops-to-crack-whip-on-rti-blackmailers_1633390
>>>>
>>>>A leading newspaper has quoted Mr Bhaskar Prabhu as saying the following
>>>> "The police should investigate which information has been sought. If
>> found worthy, action should be taken against the authority concerned
>> before punishing blackmailer."
>>>>
>>>>The DNA article details several tricks used by RTI blackmailers whom Mr
>>>> Prabhu is defending
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Yours in service of RTI
>>>
>>>Bhaskar Prabhu
>>>Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>>>9892102424
>>>
>>>Watch this Video मुंबईकरानो - हा व्हिडियो बघा (३० ऑक्टोबर २०११)
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_Lx1HSvDI
>>>
>>>
>>>Citizen's Independent Candidate for BMC Elections 2012
>>>
>>>https://sites.google.com/site/bhaskarprabhubmc195
>>>
>>>
>>>www.facebook.com/mahitiadhikarmanch
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yours in service of RTI
>>
>> Bhaskar Prabhu
>> Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>> 9892102424
>>
>> Watch this Video मुंबईकरानो - हा व्हिडियो बघा (३० ऑक्टोबर २०११)
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_Lx1HSvDI
>>
>>
>> Citizen's Independent Candidate for BMC Elections 2012
>>
>> https://sites.google.com/site/bhaskarprabhubmc195
>>
>>
>> www.facebook.com/mahitiadhikarmanch

[HumJanenge] Arbitrary disposal of large volume of cases sans hearing by the Odisha Information Commission

Arbitrary disposal of large volume of cases sans hearing by the Odisha  Information Commission has led to   widespread discontentment,  anger, frustration  and hopelessness among the RTI users

 

Dear friends,

Under Sections 18, 19 and 20  of RTI Act,  the Information Commission has been empowered  to  receive, hear, enquire and dispose the Complaints  and  Second Appeals and also to impose penalty on defaulting PIOs as and where required.   Needless to say, the hearing of the cases is crucial in the entire process of disposal of a case, simply for the reason that it  gives an opportunity of hearing to the concerned PIO, on whom lies the burden of proof as to whether he acted diligently to provide the requested information to the applicant. It is also important because the complainant/petitioner might raise a slew of critical issues on account of which the RTI users like him were deprived of access to information sought for, and which the Commission as per Section 19(8) should address to for a better administration of RTI regime in the concerned public authority in future. 

But unfortunately, Odisha Information Commission has been found unilaterally disposing a large bulk of the cases without holding any hearing on them. It neither makes an enquiry nor   gives anopportunity of hearing to any party to the case. It has been further noticed that while disposing the cases in the above manner, the Commission generally  directs  the concerned 1st Appellate Authority  to  dispose the case  at their level and ask the concerned complainant, if necessary  to approach the Commission   again in the form of a complaint or second appeal, in case  he or she is dissatisfied with the decision of 1st Appellate Authority.  

 To ascertain the number of cases disposed by the Commission in the arbitrary manner as mentioned above, an RTI Application was submitted to the office of Odisha Information Commission and the information received in response thereto is as follows-

  Cases disposed by the Commission  without hearing in  4 month period. 

 Month  of 2011

State Chief Information Commissioner

Mr. Jagadanand, SIC

Mr. Pramod Mohanty, SIC

 

No. of Complaint cases disposed

No. of second appeal cases disposed

No. of Complaint cases disposed

No. of second appeal cases disposed

No. of Complaint cases disposed

No. of second appeal cases disposed

August

54

NIL

77

Nil

156

Nil

September

63

NIL

59

Nil

123

Nil

October

107

NIL

24

Nil

82

Nil

November

150

NIL

160

Nil

283

Nil

Total

374

NIL

320

Nil

644

Nil

( Information obtained through RTI  on dt. 28.12.2011)

Remarks

a.       From the above table it is learnt that within period of four months (August – November 2011), the Commission has unilaterally and arbitrarily disposed a total of 1338 cases. If extrapolated, the figures for the year would amount to approximately. 5352.

 b.      When inquired  about  " why the Commission adopts such arbitrary method  of disposing  the cases, the clarification cited by the Commission is that  as a large bulk of the cases is pending  in the Commission, there is no option except  this procedure for disposing the cases with a view to reduce the volume of pendency.

c. When enquired about the rate of compliance  (providing  information to the  complainant),   the response of the Commission was " no such record is maintained  by the Commission".  It means  that the Commission is concerned about the rate of disposal of cases in its own arbitrary, but not so about the  actual rate of compliance of its orders for providing the information to the deprived applicants. Therefore,   the claim of the Commission in public forums that that there was compliance to the Commission's orders to the extent of 90 %  is false and deserves  to be discarded.

 D. Let us  go to other side of the story.  In large number of cases ( such as for instance CC No- 4165/2011 and CC No.- 2/2011) the 1st Appellate Authorities are neither hearing nor disposing the cases. In fact,  the cases unilaterally disposed by the Commission are old ones which require  immediate hearing  and immediate delivery of information to the complainants and  penalty against the defaulter PIOs.  As the Commission doesn't enforce actual compliance in terms of delivery of information to the complainants   and no penalty is imposed on erring PIOs  for their failure to provide the information,  the net result is widespread discontentment  and anger  created among the deprived citizens. In a situation where the Complainant has at long last been ditched by the Commission, he simply feels hopeless about approaching the Commission again in the manner of filing a complaint or second appeal. There is only a burning anger and frustration left in them.  It has been gathered from the sources close to the complainants that  huge numbers of cases disposed unilaterally  by the Commission  has not resulted in any delivery of information the complainants had asked for but were unduly refused. Though some complainants have filed again theprevious  cases to the Commission, the latter s yet to begin deciding them.

 e. The above procedure adopted by the Commission has encouraged the PIOs  to disregard the RTI Act altogether . They are  showing a careless attitude to the RTI applications, being overconfident that there  is no fear of penalty  from the Commission.

   The Commission may feel a self-congratulatory satisfaction by dishing out the figures of reduced pendency, but in the process they have made RTI Act a casualty of their arbitrary rule. It would result in growing frustration and hopelessness among the RTI users and further boost to corruption and misfeasance across the state.

 Pradip Pradhan

M-99378-43482

Date-7.1.2012

 

 

Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers

Dear Trivendra-ji

The story about "let them eat cake" is an allegory, it never happened
(or at least we cant establish that it did).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_them_eat_cake

Sarbajit

On 1/7/12, Trivendra <trivendra54@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Sir,
>
> Against common perception of blackmailing, time consuming, RTI applications
> are with a simple purpose to get rid of difficulties as this is the only Act
> (I understand) where the time is fixed, and reply is made compulsory (though
> not being abiding by PIO's).
>
> At state level problems are of such gravity that, people sitting in Delhi
> simply can not understand them. I read somewhere a story that Once people of
> England demanded loaf of bread from queen, she astonished and replied why
> don't you eat cake instead of bread. She simply failed to understand that
> she had so heavily taxed the citizens that they were were unable to buy
> bread even. How could they think of cake.
>
> The main problem lies in understanding of problems. Weak & wealthy, literate
> & illiterate have different problems and different solutions. But once they
> are handled by the same person. Simply the person fails to understand.
> (Legends like Pt. Bhimsen Joshi, Jagjit Singh, Bhupen Hazarika, Shammi
> Kapoor and Dev Anand who left us this year would be shedding tears in heaven
> watching the whole nation grooving to Kolaveri Di, Ooh-la-la and Jalebi bai
> and people are making money here just other side of coin).
>
>
> Regards
>
> Trivendra
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
> To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, 7 January 2012 10:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
> blackmailers
>
>
> I have on several occasions condemned filing RTI applications without any
> purpose and do so again. Such acts will defame the Act and give a handle to
> RTI baiters to beat the RTI Act with this baton. All right spirited persons
> should oppose and discourage attempts to burden the govt. with RTI with ill
> intentions and for blackmailing the PIO. After all govt. is running with
> the money paid by citizens as taxes and the time of the staff should not be
> wasted.
>
>
> However, it is difficult to prove that the information sought is not with
> good intentions and is merely for the purpose to harass the PIO or Public
> Authority. PIOs and PAs will say that most of the applications are for
> blackmailing them. For them, all the applications are vexetious and
> infrotuous but many such applications have unearthed many scams including
> 2G, correspondence between Finance and Home Ministers on 2G allocation and
> on many issues.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, 6 January 2012 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
> blackmailers
>
> Dear Mr Gupta,
>
> My heading was "fair comment", and Mr Prabhu has appreciated it (and
> the spirit it was made). Mr Prabhu's reply has also been
> fully
> circulated to all concerned by me.
>
> The "reality" is that in the law of India (such as IPC) if any one
> (say Mr. "A") blackmails / extorts for a contravention by say Mr "B",
> then Mr "A" is to be penalised (and not Mr "B").
>
> Mr Prabhu continues to state that no, no first punish Mr. B then go
> after Mr. A. It is RTI activists like these who are murdering RTI Act
> by misusing RTI for a purpose it was not intended. RTI is not a
> primary tool / weapon to be used to "fight" corruption. As the news
> article states it is these RTI PARASITES who file multiple coordinated
> frivolous RTIs in vexatious manner who are being (rightly) prosecuted
> / targeted by the State.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On 1/7/12, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>> The heading "Mr. Bhasker Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers" is in bad taste
>> and
> far from reality.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>> To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, 6 January 2012 8:10 PM
>> Subject: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
>> blackmailers
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
>> blackmailers
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Bhaskar Prabhu
>> <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sarbajit,
>>>
>>>Thanks for twisting the issue and appreciate your way of coercive black
>>> mailing. Any way we both are seasoned enough to face each other. Atleast
>>> now you are less using the word "Ha..mi". I also know you are expecting
>>> for me to respond as we had not talked or exchanged mails.
>>>
>> I stand by what I have said if there is black then there may be black mail
>> by black sheep RTI users. Any applicant when he asks for information and
>> if
>> he finds wrong doing then some may see that action is taken but miniscule
>> use the information other wise, let the authority take action and also
>> correct the wrong doing done either by predecessor or by current officers
>> by
>> demolitions of illegal
> matters or any remedial actions to keep it as per to
>> law of the land and also parallely investigate the matter if the matter
>> concerns the black mailing by the applicant, and i don't think anything
>> wrong in my thought, may be it is some thing different to your mind having
>> twisting nature.
>>>
>>>I always say if any body wants to be stronger with intelligence for
>>> turning
>>> the issues like inserting sugarcane by twisting it in sugarcane crusher
>>> then learn from Mr Sarbajit the
>>>
>>>It was a very wide from you better next time
>>>
>>>Not a single authority is able to show any officer to be victim of
>>> blackmailing. It is the builder who is sowing seeds of complaints through
>>> the officers who are corrupt, who don't want to take action on wrong
>>> doings by the builders.
>>>
>>>Why leave or allow the wrong
> things to happen so as to create any
>>> opportunity for black mails.
>>>
>>>Such exchange of emails will make me stronger and happy to get doses from
>>> you.
>>>
>>>Any way do you know anybody committed, to be a part of work social audit
>>> who is in civil engineering side ?
>>>
>>
>> Though I have not listed myself in the group that you have enlisted me, I
>> cannot post it there so post on my behalf the message.
>>
>>
>>>Thanks Sarbajit.
>>>
>>>Yours in service of RTI
>>>
>>>Bhaskar Prabhu
>>>Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_pune-cops-to-crack-whip-on-rti-blackmailers_1633390
>>>>
>>>>A leading newspaper has quoted Mr Bhaskar Prabhu as saying the following
>>>> "The police should investigate which information has been sought. If
>> found worthy, action should be taken against the authority concerned
>> before punishing blackmailer."
>>>>
>>>>The DNA article details several tricks used by RTI blackmailers whom Mr
>>>> Prabhu is defending
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Yours in service of RTI
>>>
>>>Bhaskar Prabhu
>>>Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>>>9892102424
>>>
>>>Watch this Video मुंबईकरानो - हा व्हिडियो बघा (३० ऑक्टोबर
> २०११)
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_Lx1HSvDI
>>>
>>>
>>>Citizen's Independent Candidate for BMC Elections 2012
>>>
>>>https://sites.google.com/site/bhaskarprabhubmc195
>>>
>>>
>>>www.facebook.com/mahitiadhikarmanch
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yours in service of RTI
>>
>> Bhaskar Prabhu
>> Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>> 9892102424
>>
>> Watch this Video मुंबईकरानो - हा व्हिडियो बघा (३० ऑक्टोबर २०११)
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_Lx1HSvDI
>>
>>
>> Citizen's Independent Candidate for BMC Elections 2012
>>
>> https://sites.google.com/site/bhaskarprabhubmc195
>>
>>
>> www.facebook.com/mahitiadhikarmanch

Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers

Sir,

Against common perception of blackmailing, time consuming, RTI applications are with a simple purpose to get rid of difficulties as this is the only Act (I understand) where the time is fixed, and reply is made compulsory (though not being abiding by PIO's).

At state level problems are of such gravity that, people sitting in Delhi simply can not understand them. I read somewhere a story that Once people of England demanded loaf of bread from queen, she astonished and replied why don't you eat cake instead of bread. She simply failed to understand that she had so heavily taxed the citizens that they were were unable to buy bread even. How could they think of cake.

The main problem lies in understanding of problems. Weak & wealthy, literate & illiterate have different problems and different solutions. But once they are handled by the same person. Simply the person fails to understand. (Legends like Pt. Bhimsen Joshi, Jagjit Singh, Bhupen Hazarika, Shammi Kapoor and Dev Anand who left us this year would be shedding tears in heaven watching the whole nation grooving to Kolaveri Di, Ooh-la-la and Jalebi bai and people are making money here just other side of coin).

Regards

Trivendra


From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 7 January 2012 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers

I have on several occasions condemned filing RTI applications without any purpose and do so again.  Such acts will defame the Act and give a handle to RTI baiters to beat the RTI Act  with this baton. All right spirited persons should oppose and discourage attempts to burden the govt. with RTI with ill intentions and for blackmailing the PIO.  After all govt. is running with the money paid by citizens as taxes and the time of the staff should not be wasted. 

However, it is difficult to prove that the information sought is not with good intentions and is merely for the purpose to harass the PIO or Public Authority.  PIOs and PAs will say that most of the applications are for blackmailing them.  For them, all the applications are vexetious and infrotuous but many such applications have unearthed many scams including 2G, correspondence between Finance and Home Ministers on 2G allocation and on many issues.


From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 6 January 2012 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers

Dear Mr Gupta,

My heading was "fair comment", and Mr Prabhu has appreciated it (and
the spirit it was made). Mr Prabhu's reply has also been fully
circulated to all concerned by me.

The "reality" is that in the law of India (such as IPC) if any one
(say Mr. "A") blackmails / extorts for a contravention by say Mr "B",
then Mr "A" is to be penalised (and not Mr "B").

Mr Prabhu continues to state that no, no first punish Mr. B then go
after Mr. A. It is RTI activists like these who are murdering RTI Act
by misusing RTI for a purpose it was not intended. RTI is not a
primary tool / weapon to be used to "fight" corruption. As the news
article states it is these RTI PARASITES who file multiple coordinated
frivolous RTIs in vexatious manner who are being (rightly) prosecuted
/ targeted by the State.

Sarbajit

On 1/7/12, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> The heading "Mr. Bhasker Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers" is in bad taste
> and far from reality.
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, 6 January 2012 8:10 PM
> Subject: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
> blackmailers
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
> blackmailers
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Bhaskar Prabhu
> <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Sarbajit,
>>
>>Thanks for twisting the issue and appreciate your way of coercive black
>> mailing. Any way we both are seasoned enough to face each other. Atleast
>> now you are less using the word "Ha..mi".  I also know you are expecting
>> for me to respond as we had not talked or exchanged mails.
>>
> I stand by what I have said if there is black then there may be black mail
> by black sheep RTI users. Any applicant when he asks for information and if
> he finds wrong doing then some may see that action is taken but miniscule
> use the information other wise, let the authority take action and also
> correct the wrong doing done either by predecessor or by current officers by
> demolitions of illegal matters or any remedial actions to keep it as per to
> law of the land and also parallely investigate the matter if the matter
> concerns the black mailing by the applicant, and i don't think anything
> wrong in my thought, may be it is some thing different to your mind having
> twisting nature.
>>
>>I always say if any body wants to be stronger with intelligence for turning
>> the issues like inserting sugarcane by twisting it in sugarcane crusher
>> then learn from Mr Sarbajit the
>>
>>It was a very wide  from you better next time
>>
>>Not a single authority is able to show any officer to be victim of
>> blackmailing. It is the builder who is sowing seeds of complaints through
>> the officers who are corrupt, who don't want to take action on wrong
>> doings by the builders.
>>
>>Why leave or allow the wrong things to happen so as to create any
>> opportunity for black mails.
>>
>>Such exchange of emails will make me stronger and happy to get doses from
>> you.
>>
>>Any way do you know anybody committed, to be a part of work social audit
>> who is in civil engineering side ?
>>
>
> Though I have not listed myself in the group that you have enlisted me, I
> cannot post it there so post on my behalf the message.
>
>
>>Thanks Sarbajit.
>>
>>Yours in service of RTI
>>
>>Bhaskar Prabhu
>>Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_pune-cops-to-crack-whip-on-rti-blackmailers_1633390
>>>
>>>A leading newspaper has quoted Mr Bhaskar Prabhu as saying the following
>>> "The police should investigate which information has been sought. If
> found worthy, action should be taken against the authority concerned
> before punishing blackmailer."
>>>
>>>The DNA article details several tricks used by RTI blackmailers whom Mr
>>> Prabhu is defending
>>>
>>--
>>Yours in service of RTI
>>
>>Bhaskar Prabhu
>>Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>>9892102424
>>
>>Watch this Video मुंबईकरानो - हा व्हिडियो बघा (३० ऑक्टोबर २०११)
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_Lx1HSvDI
>>
>>
>>Citizen's Independent Candidate for BMC Elections 2012
>>
>>https://sites.google.com/site/bhaskarprabhubmc195
>>
>>
>>www.facebook.com/mahitiadhikarmanch
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Yours in service of RTI
>
> Bhaskar Prabhu
> Mahiti Adhikar Manch
> 9892102424
>
> Watch this Video मुंबईकरानो - हा व्हिडियो बघा (३० ऑक्टोबर २०११)
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_Lx1HSvDI
>
>
> Citizen's Independent Candidate for BMC Elections 2012
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/bhaskarprabhubmc195
>
>
> www.facebook.com/mahitiadhikarmanch




Friday, January 6, 2012

Re: [HumJanenge]

Thank you very much for your good wishes. I too wish you a very happy new year.
BK Verma

On 1/5/12, Dr. Jagnarain Sharma <dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com> wrote:
> DEAR RAJ KISHORE & ALL
> I join you to convey to yoiu and all members my heartiest
> Greetings for the NEW YEAR 2012.
> DR. JN SHARMA
> ADVOCATE/HUMANRIGHTS ACTIVIST
>
> On 12/31/11, raj kishore vaish <vmrajkishore@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Wish You Very Very Happy New Year.
>>
>> --
>> RKishore Vaish
>> ( Raj Kishore Vaish )
>> 118,Choubey Tola,
>> SITAPUR, U.P.
>> 09807952137
>>
>

Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers

I have on several occasions condemned filing RTI applications without any purpose and do so again.  Such acts will defame the Act and give a handle to RTI baiters to beat the RTI Act  with this baton. All right spirited persons should oppose and discourage attempts to burden the govt. with RTI with ill intentions and for blackmailing the PIO.  After all govt. is running with the money paid by citizens as taxes and the time of the staff should not be wasted. 

However, it is difficult to prove that the information sought is not with good intentions and is merely for the purpose to harass the PIO or Public Authority.  PIOs and PAs will say that most of the applications are for blackmailing them.  For them, all the applications are vexetious and infrotuous but many such applications have unearthed many scams including 2G, correspondence between Finance and Home Ministers on 2G allocation and on many issues.


From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 6 January 2012 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers

Dear Mr Gupta,

My heading was "fair comment", and Mr Prabhu has appreciated it (and
the spirit it was made). Mr Prabhu's reply has also been fully
circulated to all concerned by me.

The "reality" is that in the law of India (such as IPC) if any one
(say Mr. "A") blackmails / extorts for a contravention by say Mr "B",
then Mr "A" is to be penalised (and not Mr "B").

Mr Prabhu continues to state that no, no first punish Mr. B then go
after Mr. A. It is RTI activists like these who are murdering RTI Act
by misusing RTI for a purpose it was not intended. RTI is not a
primary tool / weapon to be used to "fight" corruption. As the news
article states it is these RTI PARASITES who file multiple coordinated
frivolous RTIs in vexatious manner who are being (rightly) prosecuted
/ targeted by the State.

Sarbajit

On 1/7/12, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> The heading "Mr. Bhasker Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers" is in bad taste
> and far from reality.
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, 6 January 2012 8:10 PM
> Subject: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
> blackmailers
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
> blackmailers
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Bhaskar Prabhu
> <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Sarbajit,
>>
>>Thanks for twisting the issue and appreciate your way of coercive black
>> mailing. Any way we both are seasoned enough to face each other. Atleast
>> now you are less using the word "Ha..mi".  I also know you are expecting
>> for me to respond as we had not talked or exchanged mails.
>>
> I stand by what I have said if there is black then there may be black mail
> by black sheep RTI users. Any applicant when he asks for information and if
> he finds wrong doing then some may see that action is taken but miniscule
> use the information other wise, let the authority take action and also
> correct the wrong doing done either by predecessor or by current officers by
> demolitions of illegal matters or any remedial actions to keep it as per to
> law of the land and also parallely investigate the matter if the matter
> concerns the black mailing by the applicant, and i don't think anything
> wrong in my thought, may be it is some thing different to your mind having
> twisting nature.
>>
>>I always say if any body wants to be stronger with intelligence for turning
>> the issues like inserting sugarcane by twisting it in sugarcane crusher
>> then learn from Mr Sarbajit the
>>
>>It was a very wide  from you better next time
>>
>>Not a single authority is able to show any officer to be victim of
>> blackmailing. It is the builder who is sowing seeds of complaints through
>> the officers who are corrupt, who don't want to take action on wrong
>> doings by the builders.
>>
>>Why leave or allow the wrong things to happen so as to create any
>> opportunity for black mails.
>>
>>Such exchange of emails will make me stronger and happy to get doses from
>> you.
>>
>>Any way do you know anybody committed, to be a part of work social audit
>> who is in civil engineering side ?
>>
>
> Though I have not listed myself in the group that you have enlisted me, I
> cannot post it there so post on my behalf the message.
>
>
>>Thanks Sarbajit.
>>
>>Yours in service of RTI
>>
>>Bhaskar Prabhu
>>Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_pune-cops-to-crack-whip-on-rti-blackmailers_1633390
>>>
>>>A leading newspaper has quoted Mr Bhaskar Prabhu as saying the following
>>> "The police should investigate which information has been sought. If
> found worthy, action should be taken against the authority concerned
> before punishing blackmailer."
>>>
>>>The DNA article details several tricks used by RTI blackmailers whom Mr
>>> Prabhu is defending
>>>
>>--
>>Yours in service of RTI
>>
>>Bhaskar Prabhu
>>Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>>9892102424
>>
>>Watch this Video मुंबईकरानो - हा व्हिडियो बघा (३० ऑक्टोबर २०११)
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_Lx1HSvDI
>>
>>
>>Citizen's Independent Candidate for BMC Elections 2012
>>
>>https://sites.google.com/site/bhaskarprabhubmc195
>>
>>
>>www.facebook.com/mahitiadhikarmanch
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Yours in service of RTI
>
> Bhaskar Prabhu
> Mahiti Adhikar Manch
> 9892102424
>
> Watch this Video मुंबईकरानो - हा व्हिडियो बघा (३० ऑक्टोबर २०११)
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_Lx1HSvDI
>
>
> Citizen's Independent Candidate for BMC Elections 2012
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/bhaskarprabhubmc195
>
>
> www.facebook.com/mahitiadhikarmanch


Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers

Dear Mr Gupta,

My heading was "fair comment", and Mr Prabhu has appreciated it (and
the spirit it was made). Mr Prabhu's reply has also been fully
circulated to all concerned by me.

The "reality" is that in the law of India (such as IPC) if any one
(say Mr. "A") blackmails / extorts for a contravention by say Mr "B",
then Mr "A" is to be penalised (and not Mr "B").

Mr Prabhu continues to state that no, no first punish Mr. B then go
after Mr. A. It is RTI activists like these who are murdering RTI Act
by misusing RTI for a purpose it was not intended. RTI is not a
primary tool / weapon to be used to "fight" corruption. As the news
article states it is these RTI PARASITES who file multiple coordinated
frivolous RTIs in vexatious manner who are being (rightly) prosecuted
/ targeted by the State.

Sarbajit

On 1/7/12, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> The heading "Mr. Bhasker Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers" is in bad taste
> and far from reality.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, 6 January 2012 8:10 PM
> Subject: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
> blackmailers
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
> blackmailers
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Bhaskar Prabhu
> <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Sarbajit,
>>
>>Thanks for twisting the issue and appreciate your way of coercive black
>> mailing. Any way we both are seasoned enough to face each other. Atleast
>> now you are less using the word "Ha..mi". I also know you are expecting
>> for me to respond as we had not talked or exchanged mails.
>>
> I stand by what I have said if there is black then there may be black mail
> by black sheep RTI users. Any applicant when he asks for information and if
> he finds wrong doing then some may see that action is taken but miniscule
> use the information other wise, let the authority take action and also
> correct the wrong doing done either by predecessor or by current officers by
> demolitions of illegal matters or any remedial actions to keep it as per to
> law of the land and also parallely investigate the matter if the matter
> concerns the black mailing by the applicant, and i don't think anything
> wrong in my thought, may be it is some thing different to your mind having
> twisting nature.
>>
>>I always say if any body wants to be stronger with intelligence for turning
>> the issues like inserting sugarcane by twisting it in sugarcane crusher
>> then learn from Mr Sarbajit the
>>
>>It was a very wide from you better next time
>>
>>Not a single authority is able to show any officer to be victim of
>> blackmailing. It is the builder who is sowing seeds of complaints through
>> the officers who are corrupt, who don't want to take action on wrong
>> doings by the builders.
>>
>>Why leave or allow the wrong things to happen so as to create any
>> opportunity for black mails.
>>
>>Such exchange of emails will make me stronger and happy to get doses from
>> you.
>>
>>Any way do you know anybody committed, to be a part of work social audit
>> who is in civil engineering side ?
>>
>
> Though I have not listed myself in the group that you have enlisted me, I
> cannot post it there so post on my behalf the message.
>
>
>>Thanks Sarbajit.
>>
>>Yours in service of RTI
>>
>>Bhaskar Prabhu
>>Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_pune-cops-to-crack-whip-on-rti-blackmailers_1633390
>>>
>>>A leading newspaper has quoted Mr Bhaskar Prabhu as saying the following
>>> "The police should investigate which information has been sought. If
> found worthy, action should be taken against the authority concerned
> before punishing blackmailer."
>>>
>>>The DNA article details several tricks used by RTI blackmailers whom Mr
>>> Prabhu is defending
>>>
>>--
>>Yours in service of RTI
>>
>>Bhaskar Prabhu
>>Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>>9892102424
>>
>>Watch this Video मुंबईकरानो - हा व्हिडियो बघा (३० ऑक्टोबर २०११)
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_Lx1HSvDI
>>
>>
>>Citizen's Independent Candidate for BMC Elections 2012
>>
>>https://sites.google.com/site/bhaskarprabhubmc195
>>
>>
>>www.facebook.com/mahitiadhikarmanch
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Yours in service of RTI
>
> Bhaskar Prabhu
> Mahiti Adhikar Manch
> 9892102424
>
> Watch this Video मुंबईकरानो - हा व्हिडियो बघा (३० ऑक्टोबर २०११)
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_Lx1HSvDI
>
>
> Citizen's Independent Candidate for BMC Elections 2012
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/bhaskarprabhubmc195
>
>
> www.facebook.com/mahitiadhikarmanch

Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers

The heading "Mr. Bhasker Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers" is in bad taste and far from reality.


From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 6 January 2012 8:10 PM
Subject: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sarbajit,

Thanks for twisting the issue and appreciate your way of coercive black mailing. Any way we both are seasoned enough to face each other. Atleast now you are less using the word "Ha..mi".  I also know you are expecting for me to respond as we had not talked or exchanged mails.
 
I stand by what I have said if there is black then there may be black mail by black sheep RTI users. Any applicant when he asks for information and if he finds wrong doing then some may see that action is taken but miniscule use the information other wise, let the authority take action and also correct the wrong doing done either by predecessor or by current officers by demolitions of illegal matters or any remedial actions to keep it as per to law of the land and also parallely investigate the matter if the matter concerns the black mailing by the applicant, and i don't think anything wrong in my thought, may be it is some thing different to your mind having twisting nature.

I always say if any body wants to be stronger with intelligence for turning the issues like inserting sugarcane by twisting it in sugarcane crusher then learn from Mr Sarbajit the

It was a very wide from you better next time

Not a single authority is able to show any officer to be victim of blackmailing. It is the builder who is sowing seeds of complaints through the officers who are corrupt, who don't want to take action on wrong doings by the builders.

Why leave or allow the wrong things to happen so as to create any opportunity for black mails.

Such exchange of emails will make me stronger and happy to get doses from you.

Any way do you know anybody committed, to be a part of work social audit who is in civil engineering side ?

Though I have not listed myself in the group that you have enlisted me, I cannot post it there so post on my behalf the message.

Thanks Sarbajit.

Yours in service of RTI

Bhaskar Prabhu
Mahiti Adhikar Manch


On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_pune-cops-to-crack-whip-on-rti-blackmailers_1633390

A leading newspaper has quoted Mr Bhaskar Prabhu as saying the following "The police should investigate which information has been sought. If found worthy, action should be taken against the authority concerned before punishing blackmailer."

The DNA article details several tricks used by RTI blackmailers whom Mr Prabhu is defending

--
Yours in service of RTI

Bhaskar Prabhu
Mahiti Adhikar Manch
9892102424

Watch this Video मुंबईकरानो - हा व्हिडियो बघा (३० ऑक्टोबर २०११)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_Lx1HSvDI


Citizen's Independent Candidate for BMC Elections 2012


https://sites.google.com/site/bhaskarprabhubmc195









--
Yours in service of RTI

Bhaskar Prabhu
Mahiti Adhikar Manch
9892102424

Watch this Video मुंबईकरानो - हा व्हिडियो बघा (३० ऑक्टोबर २०११)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_Lx1HSvDI


Citizen's Independent Candidate for BMC Elections 2012


https://sites.google.com/site/bhaskarprabhubmc195









Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sarbajit,

Thanks for twisting the issue and appreciate your way of coercive black mailing. Any way we both are seasoned enough to face each other. Atleast now you are less using the word "Ha..mi".  I also know you are expecting for me to respond as we had not talked or exchanged mails.
 
I stand by what I have said if there is black then there may be black mail by black sheep RTI users. Any applicant when he asks for information and if he finds wrong doing then some may see that action is taken but miniscule use the information other wise, let the authority take action and also correct the wrong doing done either by predecessor or by current officers by demolitions of illegal matters or any remedial actions to keep it as per to law of the land and also parallely investigate the matter if the matter concerns the black mailing by the applicant, and i don't think anything wrong in my thought, may be it is some thing different to your mind having twisting nature.

I always say if any body wants to be stronger with intelligence for turning the issues like inserting sugarcane by twisting it in sugarcane crusher then learn from Mr Sarbajit the

It was a very wide from you better next time

Not a single authority is able to show any officer to be victim of blackmailing. It is the builder who is sowing seeds of complaints through the officers who are corrupt, who don't want to take action on wrong doings by the builders.

Why leave or allow the wrong things to happen so as to create any opportunity for black mails.

Such exchange of emails will make me stronger and happy to get doses from you.

Any way do you know anybody committed, to be a part of work social audit who is in civil engineering side ?

Though I have not listed myself in the group that you have enlisted me, I cannot post it there so post on my behalf the message.

Thanks Sarbajit.

Yours in service of RTI

Bhaskar Prabhu
Mahiti Adhikar Manch


On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_pune-cops-to-crack-whip-on-rti-blackmailers_1633390

A leading newspaper has quoted Mr Bhaskar Prabhu as saying the following "The police should investigate which information has been sought. If found worthy, action should be taken against the authority concerned before punishing blackmailer."

The DNA article details several tricks used by RTI blackmailers whom Mr Prabhu is defending

--
Yours in service of RTI

Bhaskar Prabhu
Mahiti Adhikar Manch
9892102424

Watch this Video मुंबईकरानो - हा व्हिडियो बघा (३० ऑक्टोबर २०११)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_Lx1HSvDI


Citizen's Independent Candidate for BMC Elections 2012


https://sites.google.com/site/bhaskarprabhubmc195









--
Yours in service of RTI

Bhaskar Prabhu
Mahiti Adhikar Manch
9892102424

Watch this Video मुंबईकरानो - हा व्हिडियो बघा (३० ऑक्टोबर २०११)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_Lx1HSvDI


Citizen's Independent Candidate for BMC Elections 2012


https://sites.google.com/site/bhaskarprabhubmc195