This is exactly happened . One bureaucrat told very clearly that I will provide you with the information but will not do your job . How powerful they have made themselves because they have not been made ACCOUNTABLE , TRANSPARENT AND RESPONSIBLE for their deeds by the successive Governments . Even Modi appears to be scared of them..On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 9:46 AM, <sarwara.super@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: WHITHER RIGHT TO INFORMATION ?
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Re: [IAC#RG] Indian investment in US Bonds
I've spoken to my always reliable sources.
The funds deposited in US Bonds are on account of payments + accrued
interest which India owes USA since 1950's on account of PL-480 food
aid (most of which was fungus and mercury contaminated rotten wheat
unfit even for cattle), which has now reached gigantic levels.
http://www.epw.in/system/files/pdf/1959_11/45/the_new_p_l_480_agreement.pdf
Hopefully, Mr. Modi will be able to get us out of this "humiliation"
which Congress made us swallow under Ms. (Indira) Gandhi when he
visits USA next month.
http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/swallowing-the-humiliation/645168/0
IAC members should read both these links.
Sarbajit
On 8/21/14, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Pavan
>
> 4 words spring to mind.
> (A) PONZI
> (B) Ever-Greening
> (C) Leverage
> (D) Corruption
>
> Probably RBI is doing in USA what banks like SBI, Syndicate Banks and
> all are doing in India. Its the old scheme of bank skimming, deposit
> 20% with me at (cheap rates) and I'll keep giving you loans upon loans
> upon loans (so long as I keep getting my kickbacks) - Kingfisher,
> Bhushan Steels, Pramod Mittal,
>
> Experts like Ms Sucheta Dalal etc may have further details
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On 8/21/14, pavan nair <pavannair1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Sarbajit. The money could be used to retire government debt on
>> which
>> much higher rates are being paid. Does it make sense if you owe 80
>> billion
>> dollars (the approximate amount of the government debt besides NRI
>> deposits
>> of 100 billion dollars) and are paying about 6% interest, to deposit 73
>> billion dollars in US treasuries which yield less that 2% interest. The
>> NRI
>> deposit scheme needs to be revised and rates lowered as well as interest
>> taxed. If I as a resident Indian am being paid the same interest and
>> taxed,
>> I do not see why NRIs should not be taxed. In fact they should volunteer
>> to
>> pay tax since voting rights are also being given. Pavan Nair
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Pavan
>>>
>>> I have no inputs on this. Since 2010 the IN Rupee has depreciated by
>>> 35% against major currencies. INR has been the worst performing major
>>> currency. RBI has probably prudently moved our FOREX reserves into the
>>> safest place it can find :-)
>>>
>>> NRI's being NRIs, GoI can probably refuse to pay them when the shit
>>> hits the fan.
>>>
>>> Sarbajit
>>>
>>> On 8/19/14, pavan nair <pavannair1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Dear Sarbajit,
>>> >
>>> > I came across a report in the Economic Times of today regarding
>>> > the
>>> > subject. Here is the link.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/finance/india-among-top-16-lenders-to-us-as-bond-investments-hit-73-billion-in-june/articleshow/40382761.cms
>>> >
>>> > I find it inexplicable that we have been borrowing money from NRIs at
>>> rates
>>> > OF up to 9% per annum for NRO/NRE accounts and lending money to the US
>>> > government in the form of US treasuries at very low rates of about 2%.
>>> The
>>> > lending to the US has increased by 19% in the last financial year. The
>>> > external debt stands at 440.6 billion dollars as on 31 March 2014 and
>>> > has
>>> > risen substantially primarily on account of increased NRI investment
>>> which
>>> > stands at 103.8 billion dollars. The reserves are at about 320 billion
>>> > dollars which includes the NRI borrowing. This amounts to a loss of
>>> > taxpayer money since we need to buy dollars at existing market rates
>>> > to
>>> > payout the interest to NRIs. There seems to be an arrangement with the
>>> > US
>>> > government in return for something unknown, otherwise why should a
>>> > poor
>>> and
>>> > indebted country like India lend more to the US than developed
>>> > countries
>>> > like France, Canada and Germany. We need to retire debt so that debt
>>> > servicing which is at about 25 billion dollars per annum can be
>>> > reduced.
>>> > May I request you and through you, other members of the list for their
>>> > views as also what action can be taken. Has the Governor RBI got the
>>> > authority to invest or is it a Cabinet decision. Regards. Pavan Nair
[IAC#RG] Fwd: WHITHER RIGHT TO INFORMATION ?
WHITHER RIGHT TO INFORMATION ?
The RTI Act , which was once hailed as the ultimate weapon in the hands of the citizens to fight for probity in public life, has now lost its sheen. The bureaucracy has effectively nullified this Act by it's calculated tactics. The Information Commissioners who are supposed to ensure the implementation of the RTI Act in letter and spirit are really the employed tools to sabotage the RTI Act. They are the carefully chosen ex bureaucrats or those with political and official patronage, who are put on the job to defeat the letter and spirit of the RTI Act and frustrate the RTI Activists.
Now, the ground reality is that most of the letters seeking information under RTI Act are not acknowledged at all or a reply is sent at the end of 30 days stating that the letters should be addressed to some other section. The endless cycle goes on.
On many occasions, the complaints sent to the Information Commissioners are also not acknowledged or routinely forwarded to the so called Appellate authority in the government department, who seldom respond. The net effect is that the thousands of letters seeking information under RTI Act now remain unanswered and are gathering dust.
Some RTI activists who persist with the same letters for several months get tired and have no alternative other than withdrawing from their efforts.
Under such circumstances, when nothing works , people tend to think that only street demonstrations and violence will work in this country to get any response from the government departments. Anna Hazare and AAP exploited such people's frustration for some time and they themselves have been exposed now, as they have proved themselves to be no different from the average politician of India.
In such circumstances, there is no alternative other than the committed individuals resisting corruption and demand for bribery at individual level. This calls for sacrifice. The question is how many are willing to do this and with the media largely ignoring such efforts , whatever resistance put up by individuals remain largely unpublicised and unnoticed.
Those who long for probity in public life should not lose heart and they should resist the demand for corruption from whatever quarters in day today life and make themselves role models for others to emulate. A few individuals fighting for the cause in every small town, village and city would certainly keep the ray of hope alive
N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice For The Deprived
Chennai
Re: [IAC#RG] Indian investment in US Bonds
4 words spring to mind.
(A) PONZI
(B) Ever-Greening
(C) Leverage
(D) Corruption
Probably RBI is doing in USA what banks like SBI, Syndicate Banks and
all are doing in India. Its the old scheme of bank skimming, deposit
20% with me at (cheap rates) and I'll keep giving you loans upon loans
upon loans (so long as I keep getting my kickbacks) - Kingfisher,
Bhushan Steels, Pramod Mittal,
Experts like Ms Sucheta Dalal etc may have further details
Sarbajit
On 8/21/14, pavan nair <pavannair1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Sarbajit. The money could be used to retire government debt on which
> much higher rates are being paid. Does it make sense if you owe 80 billion
> dollars (the approximate amount of the government debt besides NRI deposits
> of 100 billion dollars) and are paying about 6% interest, to deposit 73
> billion dollars in US treasuries which yield less that 2% interest. The NRI
> deposit scheme needs to be revised and rates lowered as well as interest
> taxed. If I as a resident Indian am being paid the same interest and taxed,
> I do not see why NRIs should not be taxed. In fact they should volunteer to
> pay tax since voting rights are also being given. Pavan Nair
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Pavan
>>
>> I have no inputs on this. Since 2010 the IN Rupee has depreciated by
>> 35% against major currencies. INR has been the worst performing major
>> currency. RBI has probably prudently moved our FOREX reserves into the
>> safest place it can find :-)
>>
>> NRI's being NRIs, GoI can probably refuse to pay them when the shit
>> hits the fan.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On 8/19/14, pavan nair <pavannair1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Dear Sarbajit,
>> >
>> > I came across a report in the Economic Times of today regarding
>> > the
>> > subject. Here is the link.
>> >
>> >
>> http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/finance/india-among-top-16-lenders-to-us-as-bond-investments-hit-73-billion-in-june/articleshow/40382761.cms
>> >
>> > I find it inexplicable that we have been borrowing money from NRIs at
>> rates
>> > OF up to 9% per annum for NRO/NRE accounts and lending money to the US
>> > government in the form of US treasuries at very low rates of about 2%.
>> The
>> > lending to the US has increased by 19% in the last financial year. The
>> > external debt stands at 440.6 billion dollars as on 31 March 2014 and
>> > has
>> > risen substantially primarily on account of increased NRI investment
>> which
>> > stands at 103.8 billion dollars. The reserves are at about 320 billion
>> > dollars which includes the NRI borrowing. This amounts to a loss of
>> > taxpayer money since we need to buy dollars at existing market rates to
>> > payout the interest to NRIs. There seems to be an arrangement with the
>> > US
>> > government in return for something unknown, otherwise why should a poor
>> and
>> > indebted country like India lend more to the US than developed
>> > countries
>> > like France, Canada and Germany. We need to retire debt so that debt
>> > servicing which is at about 25 billion dollars per annum can be
>> > reduced.
>> > May I request you and through you, other members of the list for their
>> > views as also what action can be taken. Has the Governor RBI got the
>> > authority to invest or is it a Cabinet decision. Regards. Pavan Nair
>> >
>>
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[IAC#RG] Off-Topic: for Army / IESMs, 2-BHK AWHO Dwarka flat for sale
This is a unique / rare offer for IAC's Army / Defence / IESMs to get a ready constructed 900 sqft 2-BHK premium flat in Delhi - (AWHO Ranjeet Vihar-1 Sector 22 Dwarka Delhi) at well below the actual market rates of 85-90 lakhs.
http://delhi.localnexo.in/p24635598-2-bhk-flat-awho-sector-22-dwarka-85-lakhs-for-sale
Re: [IAC#RG] Indian investment in US Bonds
Dear Pavan
I have no inputs on this. Since 2010 the IN Rupee has depreciated by
35% against major currencies. INR has been the worst performing major
currency. RBI has probably prudently moved our FOREX reserves into the
safest place it can find :-)
NRI's being NRIs, GoI can probably refuse to pay them when the shit
hits the fan.
Sarbajit
On 8/19/14, pavan nair <pavannair1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Sarbajit,
>
> I came across a report in the Economic Times of today regarding the
> subject. Here is the link.
>
> http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/finance/india-among-top-16-lenders-to-us-as-bond-investments-hit-73-billion-in-june/articleshow/40382761.cms
>
> I find it inexplicable that we have been borrowing money from NRIs at rates
> OF up to 9% per annum for NRO/NRE accounts and lending money to the US
> government in the form of US treasuries at very low rates of about 2%. The
> lending to the US has increased by 19% in the last financial year. The
> external debt stands at 440.6 billion dollars as on 31 March 2014 and has
> risen substantially primarily on account of increased NRI investment which
> stands at 103.8 billion dollars. The reserves are at about 320 billion
> dollars which includes the NRI borrowing. This amounts to a loss of
> taxpayer money since we need to buy dollars at existing market rates to
> payout the interest to NRIs. There seems to be an arrangement with the US
> government in return for something unknown, otherwise why should a poor and
> indebted country like India lend more to the US than developed countries
> like France, Canada and Germany. We need to retire debt so that debt
> servicing which is at about 25 billion dollars per annum can be reduced.
> May I request you and through you, other members of the list for their
> views as also what action can be taken. Has the Governor RBI got the
> authority to invest or is it a Cabinet decision. Regards. Pavan Nair
>
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Re: [IAC#RG] [#TWH-601-99561]: Report of abusive counterfeiting of domain CDAC.IN for phishing etc
Thanks for this intimation.
We found that about 37,000 webpages (out of 44,000) on the CDAC
sub-domain "gistwiki.cdac.in" were infected by wikimedia's malware,
which has now been stopped.by Registrant by disabling the sub-domain's
access to the zone as we had suggested.
We are very concerned though that CDAC had taken great pains to
obstruct us from chronicling the extent of malware infestation /
distribution from their domain by filing a false and motivated report
to NIXI so as to get the honeypot domain name CDACPUNE.IN shut down.
We are also concerned that senior officers of NIXI and DEITY are
collaborating to distribute spyware at behest of NATGRID from .IN
domain names to illegally spy on Indian citizens by continuing to
distribute highly obscene pornography from Wikimedia's Indian computer
resources.
Sarbajit
On 8/20/14, BigRock Abuse Desk <abuse@bigrock.com> wrote:
> Hi Sarbajit,
>
> Thank you for contacting us.
>
> The concerned registrant is complying to our notification and has removed
> the reported content. Additionally, we have asked him to take timely
> precautions to avoid recurrence of such issue.
>
> Regards,
> BigRock Abuse Desk
>
> Ticket Details
> ________________________________
> Ticket ID: TWH-601-99561
> Status: Closed
Re: [IAC#RG] Indian investment in US Bonds
I have no inputs on this. Since 2010 the IN Rupee has depreciated by
35% against major currencies. INR has been the worst performing major
currency. RBI has probably prudently moved our FOREX reserves into the
safest place it can find :-)
NRI's being NRIs, GoI can probably refuse to pay them when the shit
hits the fan.
Sarbajit
On 8/19/14, pavan nair <pavannair1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Sarbajit,
>
> I came across a report in the Economic Times of today regarding the
> subject. Here is the link.
>
> http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/finance/india-among-top-16-lenders-to-us-as-bond-investments-hit-73-billion-in-june/articleshow/40382761.cms
>
> I find it inexplicable that we have been borrowing money from NRIs at rates
> OF up to 9% per annum for NRO/NRE accounts and lending money to the US
> government in the form of US treasuries at very low rates of about 2%. The
> lending to the US has increased by 19% in the last financial year. The
> external debt stands at 440.6 billion dollars as on 31 March 2014 and has
> risen substantially primarily on account of increased NRI investment which
> stands at 103.8 billion dollars. The reserves are at about 320 billion
> dollars which includes the NRI borrowing. This amounts to a loss of
> taxpayer money since we need to buy dollars at existing market rates to
> payout the interest to NRIs. There seems to be an arrangement with the US
> government in return for something unknown, otherwise why should a poor and
> indebted country like India lend more to the US than developed countries
> like France, Canada and Germany. We need to retire debt so that debt
> servicing which is at about 25 billion dollars per annum can be reduced.
> May I request you and through you, other members of the list for their
> views as also what action can be taken. Has the Governor RBI got the
> authority to invest or is it a Cabinet decision. Regards. Pavan Nair
>
Tuesday, August 19, 2014
[IAC#RG] Indian investment in US Bonds
Monday, August 18, 2014
RE: [IAC#RG] Increasing cases of porn
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:30:03 +0530
From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Increasing cases of porn
1) It was somebody in London whom Sanjeev had pissed off 3 years back who had called Sanjeev Sabhlok a "fuckwit extraordinaire".
http://socioproctology.blogspot.in/2012/12/the-baba-and-bureaucrat-impossibility.html
I one were to go to the root page of this blog, ie http://sanjeev-sabhlokcity.blogspot.in/1. Spoofing of SKC - you directed me to this link:Dear Sarbajit,In response to your email:
http://sanjeev-sabhlokcity.blogspot.in/2013/06/re-skc-fuckwit-extraordianaire.html
then one gets a mirror of the IAC "home page"
What is one to conclude from that?
2. I asked what is the IAC position on porn - is it free speech or not?
India has many stupid laws, that is besides the point. Many Indians (including the entire sangh parivar) labour under the delusion that Victorian social mores and customs are their own culture.
3. Really? I did not know the US had some great *policy* position on porn - it is just protected under the second amendment as free speech. And, Denmark? How did poor, little state Denmark manage to get into your bad books - I could still understand Netherlands or Norway or Sweden, given their rules on internet domains, but Denmark?
4. As a telecom analyst, I can tell you that porn sites as a source of income for telcos is not more or lesser than say, youtube or bootleg torrents or legal video sites or massive, multi player gaming - all of these require broadband, which is typically prices on a "all you can eat buffet" flat fee basis - so selling more of these connections is important to the telcos, and it is easy because users want high speed broadband for all kinds of things, of which porn may be one thing.
5. Trying to get bad laws enforced is a bad course of action, and harms the citizens of this country - of course, IAC is free to act upon its own impulses and motivations. But, I totally disagree with IAC trying to curtail speech.
Cheers
SupratimOn 16 August 2014 18:09, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:Dear Supratim
1) IAC has not spoofed Sanjeev Sabhlok or spoofed SKC. Why should we
waste our time on such irrelevant fools and the cyber dramatics they
employ to promote themselves ?
2) In India ALL internet porn is (a) prohibited (b) NOT covered under
free speech. That is the legal position - not IAC's.
3) There is a huge lobby of foreign financed haramis working overtime
to align India's position on pornography with that of USA or Denmark.
4) Since you track telecom, you know well the ARPU hit on their
bottomlines if net-porn is actually stopped.
5) At the moment we are working to get the existing IT laws enforced
administratively. In other words requiring that the babu's
discretionary powers be uniformly applied.
Sarbajit
On 8/16/14, Supratim Basu <xsupratim@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Sarbajit,
>
> This is kind of silly on the part of IAC, is it not - spoofing SKC to
> comment on Sanjeev? Why not directly use IAC or your own name to do so?
>
> And, while we could leave cows (murder? how about those fish?) and khaps to
> "morally confused people" including many on this particular list, what
> about your fight with porn?
>
> Isn't porn (except child porn) covered by free speech? Curious to know the
> IAC position.
>
> Thanks
>
> Supratim
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Re: [IAC#RG] Increasing cases of porn
1) It was somebody in London whom Sanjeev had pissed off 3 years back who had called Sanjeev Sabhlok a "fuckwit extraordinaire".
http://socioproctology.blogspot.in/2012/12/the-baba-and-bureaucrat-impossibility.html
I one were to go to the root page of this blog, ie http://sanjeev-sabhlokcity.blogspot.in/1. Spoofing of SKC - you directed me to this link:Dear Sarbajit,In response to your email:
http://sanjeev-sabhlokcity.blogspot.in/2013/06/re-skc-fuckwit-extraordianaire.html
then one gets a mirror of the IAC "home page"
What is one to conclude from that?
2. I asked what is the IAC position on porn - is it free speech or not?
India has many stupid laws, that is besides the point. Many Indians (including the entire sangh parivar) labour under the delusion that Victorian social mores and customs are their own culture.
3. Really? I did not know the US had some great *policy* position on porn - it is just protected under the second amendment as free speech. And, Denmark? How did poor, little state Denmark manage to get into your bad books - I could still understand Netherlands or Norway or Sweden, given their rules on internet domains, but Denmark?
4. As a telecom analyst, I can tell you that porn sites as a source of income for telcos is not more or lesser than say, youtube or bootleg torrents or legal video sites or massive, multi player gaming - all of these require broadband, which is typically prices on a "all you can eat buffet" flat fee basis - so selling more of these connections is important to the telcos, and it is easy because users want high speed broadband for all kinds of things, of which porn may be one thing.
5. Trying to get bad laws enforced is a bad course of action, and harms the citizens of this country - of course, IAC is free to act upon its own impulses and motivations. But, I totally disagree with IAC trying to curtail speech.
Cheers
SupratimOn 16 August 2014 18:09, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:Dear Supratim
1) IAC has not spoofed Sanjeev Sabhlok or spoofed SKC. Why should we
waste our time on such irrelevant fools and the cyber dramatics they
employ to promote themselves ?
2) In India ALL internet porn is (a) prohibited (b) NOT covered under
free speech. That is the legal position - not IAC's.
3) There is a huge lobby of foreign financed haramis working overtime
to align India's position on pornography with that of USA or Denmark.
4) Since you track telecom, you know well the ARPU hit on their
bottomlines if net-porn is actually stopped.
5) At the moment we are working to get the existing IT laws enforced
administratively. In other words requiring that the babu's
discretionary powers be uniformly applied.
Sarbajit
On 8/16/14, Supratim Basu <xsupratim@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Sarbajit,
>
> This is kind of silly on the part of IAC, is it not - spoofing SKC to
> comment on Sanjeev? Why not directly use IAC or your own name to do so?
>
> And, while we could leave cows (murder? how about those fish?) and khaps to
> "morally confused people" including many on this particular list, what
> about your fight with porn?
>
> Isn't porn (except child porn) covered by free speech? Curious to know the
> IAC position.
>
> Thanks
>
> Supratim
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