Re: [HumJanenge] SONIA GANDHI-RELIGION- RTI challenges

THANKS DEAR ROY YOU HAVE CORRECTED ME. BUT IN THEOSOPHICAL LITERATURE
HIS NAME FIGURES.
This is good that you have given lot of information on it
That is why credit goes to Guru Ravindranath Tagore for
introducing Theosophy in his University, which still is being taught
there.
Guru Ravindra nath Tagore's name also figures in Esperanto
literature too, which is an international Language ( UNO has accepted
it )and Mr SS Pal of Calcutta , who is Vice President of Esperanto
Federation of India, is running a school for teaching the language.

Guru Tagore believed in the International language and
several foreign languages are also taught in Vihwabharti.

I knew that you must be from Bengal, & will talk of
Adi Brahmo Samaj as a religion, that is why I highlighted on Theosophy
which believes in all religions of the world, including Brahmo Samaj
Religion.
The Esperanto & Theosophy have one goal ALONE like other
GROUPS BASED ON WORLD PEACE:
UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD
So Theosophy is not a religion, which was established
by Col. Olcot of USA & Madam H.B. Blavatsky of Russia & the
Theosophy embraces all religions of the world including Brahmo samaj.
May be Theosophy and Brahmo samaj not tallying on
few of the facts, as you said but I have never come about any such
differences between the two as I have remained for several years in
Bengal.
The members of Brahmo samaj have every right to become
member of Theosophical Society and in my knowledge there is none who
opposed theosophy.

In my view there can not be any difference between the
two or any other group or samaj.
Now it is 135 years, after establishing of the
Theos. Society, in 1875 and later shifted as International Hq. at
Chennai.

Yes to some extent you may be correct that worship is
secretly done where Mahatma KootHumi, and other Mahatma's picture are
kept.
I may correct you that to join that secret group of Mahatma
Kuthumi & other Mahatma, a member is allowed if he has completed
membership of Theos society for three years.
You may also be correct that many members of the
Nehru-gandhi Parivar are/were members of theos Society.
But it is misconception of a few & it is not a foreign
society as it was shifted from New york to Chennai after say about
five years say in 1890.
Many more misapprehensions, about the role of
Theosophical. society, in attaining independence they are not correct
nor it is correct that it had foreign spies.

I have to further state that I have not talked about Mrs
Sonia Gandhi at all nor about her religion or politics.

I believe that matter relating to politics should not be
discussed under RTI group and if I find that she is against the RTI
movement/ empowerment, I will be the first person to raise my voice.
Members know me that so many mails against this Govt.
has been sent by me who want SC Judges to be kept out side the ambit
of RTI.
Be sure for RTI I am with you and as also with all
organisations which are fighting for its empowerment.
As such I do not want to discuss any religion or
politics under our group.
Earlier also I never had discussed about religion or
politics under this group or other groups.
Regards
DrJN Sharma

On 12/14/10, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Dr Sharma
>
> I do not want to discuss religion on this group but RTI. My interest
> in Sonia's religion is only to the extent it concerns RTI, decision of
> P&H HC and the destruction/suppression of dox
> which people are requesting in RTI.
>
> I can straight away correct you that Rabindranath Tagore was
> interested in Theosophy or a believer in all religions. He was not. He
> was the President of the Adi Brahmo Samaj which is a religion in its
> own right (today the 9th largest religion of India with about 11
> million adherents) and occasionally attended Theosophy meetings as an
> invitee under his legal obligation to the Brahmic Trust Deed of 1830
> drafted by his grandfather Dwarkanath Tagore.
>
> In any case if you go through the old records of the Theosophy Society
> available online, you will find that Theosophy does not tally with
> Brahmo religion and the theological principles are quite opposed.
>
> Theosophy was only taught (as an elective) after the Congress Govt
> took over VishwaBharati. Theosophy in any case is only a front for
> FreeMasons and other devil worship secret (KootHumi) societies. Many
> members of the Nehru-gandhi Parivar are/were members of such foreign
> organisations opposed to true independence for India/Indians. HPB,
> Annie Besant etc
> were foreign spies of the highest degree, and a former Law Minister of
> India publicly
> declares on his party website that Ms Sonia(?) Gandhi is another in the
> line.
>
> Hence it is quite understandable why you (as a theosophist) do not
> want Sonia Gandhi's religion to be exposed, - because she has none.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On 12/13/10, Dr. Jagnarain Sharma <dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Sarabjit
>> I do not want to discourage any one who is interested that Mrs
>> Sonia Gandhi may TELL THAT WHAT RELIGION SHE BELONGS TO.
>>
>> I NEVER HATE ANY RELIGION, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN PRESIDENT OF
>> THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY, AT LUCKNOW AND AM A MEMBER SINCE 1966.
>>
>> You will be surprised to know that THEOSOPHY IS ONE OF THE
>> SUBJECT BEING TAUGHT IN VISHWABHARTI UNIVERSITY, SHANTINEKETAN,
>> W.BENGAL and There is no other university in our country nor even in
>> the whole world where THEOSOPHY is being taught as a subject. Shri
>> Ravindra Nath Tagore, was too a believer in all religion and that is
>> why he introduced THEOSOPHY IN HIS VISHWABHARTI UNVERSITY.
>> I have been teaching at shantiniketan, West Bengal. I also
>> had met Mr B L Bhattachrya, who is the Secretary Federation of
>> Theosohical Society, Calcutta, W. Bengal.
>>
>> Though Dr Annie Besant who also was a britisher, but
>> despite this she was also President of Congress party. She has
>> contributed a lot to the Indian society and worked as if she was a
>> hindu, & she wrote a book on Gita and several hundred of other
>> books, including, upanishad, on Karma Theory etc. & ALSO WORK FOR THE
>> EDUCATION OF CHILDREN.
>>
>> In 1890 a meeting of the international group of
>> Theosophical Society was held at International headquarter ADYAR
>> Chennai, where it was decided to work for the independence of India
>> from the clutches of British Govt.
>> The meeting was presided by Dr Annie Besent and Lord Hume
>> ( who too was a britisher BUT WHOLE HEARTEDLY WORKED FOR FREEDOM OF
>> INDIA), Dada Bhoy Naorozi and many others were present. May be that
>> this was first meeting where role of Theosophical Society and the
>> Congress party was assigned for freedom of our nation.
>> Dr A.P. Sinnet, who too was a britisher and was Editor of
>> Pioneer news paper, at Lucknow & had also played role for our
>> country's freedom.
>> SO I DO NOT WANT THAT THERE SHOULD BE A DEBATE ON REGION OF
>> SONIA GANDHI.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/9/10, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> This is the first in a series of simple RTI challenges.
>>> As the series progresses the challenge gets tougher.
>>>
>>> Recently the Punjab High Court disallowed a former IGP
>>> from accessing Sonia's Gandhi's "religion" which she
>>> had (supposedly) declared in her Census returns.
>>> Disclosure of census data/ information is explicitly
>>> barred in the Census Act.
>>>
>>> My RTI Challenge;
>>> How to access Sonia Gandhi's "religion" using RTI ?
>>>
>>> Please post strategies to this thread. Then we shall
>>> implement it in practice.
>>>
>>> NB: Please don't change the topic of this thread
>>>
>>> Sarbajit
>>>
>>
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