Saturday, July 14, 2012

[HumJanenge] Why Mr. M.L.Sharma is still our Best Central IC

A few years back our erstwhile group (RTI_India) conducted an open
poll to rank the then Central ICs.
Mr.M.L.Sharma came "1st" closely followed by A.N.Tiwari.
Prof.M.M.Ansari was "last" closely preceded by Mr.Shailesh Gandhi. CIC
SM and IC(AD) ranked somewhere in the middle.

This CIC decision has MLS publicly disagreeing with CIC(SM) and IC(SG).
http://indiankanoon.org/doc/433128/

Makes interesting reading. If I were a betting man, my money would be
on IC(MLS) who as a former police officer is presumed to know "letter
of the law" better than the other 2.

Sarbajit
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[HumJanenge] Re: For Attn: Mr. Girish Mittal

I presume you are referring to some stay DoPT has obtained against
CIC(AT)'s direction to appoint "Transparency Officers" .. carry out
suo-moto section 4 etc...
With 100's of cases involving CIC orders (the bulk of them passed by
incompetent ICs like SG) how do you expect a Law Officer to have the
case numbers at his finger tips.

The solution is to give CIC officers IPADs so that such petty details
can be incorporated in decisions delivered by an IC (and not those
decisions delivered by a JS(Law))

Sarbajit


On Jul 15, 7:17 am, C K Jam <rtiwan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mr Sarbajit,
>
> What kind of JS (Law) is Mr Akash Deep Chakravarti, if he does not even know a WP number in the Delhi HC but still insists that the a reference be made in the CIC order ?
>
> Please see:
>
> http://www.rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_AD_C_2012_000936_M_8598...
>
> Points (ii), (v) and (vi)
> Since the DoPT has obtained a stay order from the Delhi High Court on the said directive of the
> Commission, these points can only be taken up after the court pronounces  its  final decision.
>
> With such a JS (Law), no wonder ICs are passing illegal orders. LOL
>
> RTIwanted
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com>
> To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:24 AM
> Subject: [HumJanenge] For Attn: Mr. Girish Mittal
>
> Dear Girish
>
> .
> .
> .
>
> PS: You will note that Mr. Akash Deep was also present in the decision
> I have cited.
>
> Warmly
> Sarbajit
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Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Aruna Roy knows nothing about RTI

Hi Sarabjit,
                I agree with you on one count, where the real SARDARS have vanished that it is the Qutubdin Aibak Brigade(The slave dynasty) in servility.
keep it up ! we appreciate your energies and genuine frustration from current state of affairs.

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Hemant

I am not "against" the Congress Party per se. I am against all
political parties.

FYI I have used the "search" facility provided by google, and came up
with these "anti-Congress" bon-mots posted to this group (on the very
first page of the search results .. google has 20 more pages like
this).

https://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/browse_thread/thread/428c6dc50578f9b7/084e0f5eb59147a1
"The entire device of NAC is a legal fiction for Ms.Sonia Gandhi to
interfere in Govt
openly and get access for her private network of Congress-Leftist touts into
corridors of power. (You will recall Sir, that the first UPA govt was
dependent on Communist support so the NAC was packed with left-leaning
Congress stooges). The members who pack the NAC are of 2 varieties - the
eminent senior persons who are regrettably all in their 80's and only
figure-heads, and the professional 'haramis' who actually do all the dirty
work. The NAC at present is therefore a fountain of corruption in India. "

https://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/browse_thread/thread/f1bc2f7cb768929/9f6faef54f695ed7

"I can cite 2 examples from my personal experience when M.M.Singh
(then Gov RBI) demonstrated his pliabillity. Only pliable and rootless
persons (he has never won an election)
are appointed to high positions in Congress of Corruption. The fact
that he is at such a high position is evidence that he is highly
pliable / corrupt."

"Dear Sharmaji

Don't you mean "Queen / Empress" instead of "King" ?

Empress Sonia and her army of bootpolishing Singhs (Buta/MM/Montek ...
) are the personifications of  corruption.

Where have all the Sirdars (like Kehar and Beant) gone off to when the
nation needs them most ? "

https://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/browse_thread/thread/4cc9ba244cf03146/e70ccc0da8f74e4c

"JFYI

1) We got the Congress party's land grab of industrial lands in Delhi stopped.

2)  We stalled for 6 years the persistent demands of the private
electricity companies of Delhi to raise their rates. It is an open
secret that these Delhi Discoms pay hundreds of crore rupees to
Congress High command every month. It was only when these URJA/ IAC
haramis became too much for us to handle in our individual capacities
that we withdrew and the results are here for everyone to see - bijli
tariff in Delhi was hiked 30% in a single day.

I could go on, but who the f*** are you to ask anyway ?. Sarbajit

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Mr. Hemant Kshirsagar < "

https://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/browse_thread/thread/8de25c107f455d01/5575515e534b1477

From: Sarbajit Roy <sro..@gm...>
Date: Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 11:07 PM
Subject: Simple reasons why Arvind Kejriwal & Co. are Congress puppets
(Part-1)
To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>

*1) The people of India want effective Institutions to inqure into and
prosecute complaints against 5 or 6 BIG-FISH like a) Chairperson NAC  b)
Chief Justice of India  c) Speaker of Lok Sabha d) Lieut Governor of Delhi
e) Dy. Chairman Planning Commission f) Governor RBI etc. etc. within 2 or 3
weeks
*
Instead, ARVIND & Co propose to give us an undersexed, overburdened,  11
member Commission (does this sound familiar <wink> ?) which will inquire and
prosecute complaints into 5 or 6 *MILLION* low level munchkins  within 2 or
3 *YEARS* (possibly) !!!!

Since Arvind & Co are on this list, do they have the balls to reply /
clarify ?

*2)* *As the people of India evidently want effective Institutions to
exclusively inquire into and prosecute complaints against TOP-LEVEL FIXERS &
UNELECTED / UNACCOUNTABLE PEOPLE EXERCISING "INFLUENCE" FROM TIME TO TIME
LIKE

A) SANJAY GANDHI
B) VINCENT GEORGE
C) RANJAN BHATTACHARYA
D) PULAK CHATTERJEE
E) ROBERT VADRA
F) SUMAN DUBEY,
G) NIRA RADIA, ETC. ETC.

DOES THE PROPOSED JAN LOKPAL ENCOMPASS SUCH PEOPLE DIRECTLY (ie. other than
as accessories / conspirators) , AND / OR ARE THE EXISTING INSTITUTIONS LIKE
POLICE / CBI / CVC / ACBs etc ADEQUATE / INADEQUATE ?

Sarbajit


On 7/11/12, Mr. Hemant Kshirsagar <hemantkshirsagar01@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am really waiting for the day when finally sarbijit roy will say or act
> against congress people? It is alway some other guy....
>
> Much a pity!!
>
> Regards,*
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:10 PM, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Guptaji
>>
>> Your suggestion is very well taken and noted.
>>
>> Can you please name me any unmoderated platform / forum
>> where either Aruna Roy or Shailesh Gandhi(ji) will condescend
>> to share with me ??
>>
>> In any case one of the prime purposes of this group is to
>> expose the professional RTI parasites.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2:24 pm, "M.K. Gupta" <mkgupta...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>> > Pl. do not make this platform to settle personal score with the people
>> > u
>> r allergic to.  If u want to join issues with Aruna Rao or Shailesh
>> Gandhi
>> ji, do it separately and this do not fall in the larger interest of the
>> members of this group.  Infighting will unnecessary divert our attention.



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Re: [HumJanenge] Re: WHY WE NEED A HINDU RASHTRA?

R U sure u served the Indian Army?

--- On Fri, 13/7/12, Col Thakur Singh <thakursinghk@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Col Thakur Singh <thakursinghk@gmail.com>
Subject: [HumJanenge] Re: WHY WE NEED A HINDU RASHTRA?
To: "Babu Suseelan" <babususeelan@hotmail.com>, "Kumar Arun" <kumar2786@hotmail.com>, humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, 13 July, 2012, 1:45 PM

Hi

Yes I agree with you.

Tell me , what amendment is required to be done in our constitution for  the change.
There must be a particular term to replace , 'SECULAR ', with appropriate one and becoming a religious state.

Regards

Col Thakur Singh 
919873379995
President,
Jan Sangh Party 
(HP)

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Babu Suseelan <babususeelan@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

 

HINDU RASHTRA: THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THE PARTISAN POLITICS THAT IS DESTRYING INDIA.

Dr. BABU SUSEELAN

 

Having spent most of my life abroad, and viewing and analyzing India from a distance, I was confronted with the good, the bad and ugliness of Indian politics.

DECALARE INDIA AS A HINDU RASHTRA.  This is the only one cure for the plague of cynicism, Islamic terrorism, and appeasement of Muslims, internal disturbances created by subversive agents, anti Indian attitude of the media, political corruption, lack of economic progress, and crises created by regional, criminal politicians, and inefficiency and corruption in the bureaucracy. Our enemies have injected so many thought viruses in Indian political life.  The only cure for the illness and the only way out of the mess is to declare India as a Hindu Rashtra.

 

From Kashmir to Kerala, the government is mismanaging the economy, public funds are diverted to Muslims and Christians, and coercive religious conversion is encouraged and supported. Instead of moving the country forward, the central government controlled by the uneducated Italian catholic lady Antonio Maino and many state governments (Except Gujarat) work against the interests of the majority Hindus.

 

The Media, instead of unmasking the hypocrisy of corrupt, criminal politicians, subversive organizations, individuals who act as subversive agents who create and deepen the crises in India, endorse and support the patrician politics that divide the nation.  For years, our media contributed to the climate of corruption, subversive activities polarizing the nation, and helped to spread the contentious and dangerous messages of Muslims and anti national groups.

 

The Media supports "politics of destruction". The print and TV media also invite and promote corrupt, criminal politicians, subversive groups and anti national, anti Hindu groups on the news and talk show programs for the simple reason that it brings applause from our enemies.

 

HINDU RESHTRA: SLOGAN OR CHOICE?

 

Naming India as a Hindu Reshtra will explode the conventional wisdom. Hindus from Kashmir to Kerala have a role to play. If large enough members of Hindu community demand a Hindu Rashtra, India's criminal and corrupt politicians have to heed to their demands. The Hindus have to challenge criminal, anti India, anti Hindu politicians to do better and make them do better for Hindus and the Hindu Rashtra.

 

To be honest, the crises Hindus face is now so deep and transformation required is so fundamental that real change can sometime feel almost impossible. How do we keep Hindus move with the slogan "HINDU RASHTRA" into a reality? We need to force Hindus into real freedom.  Only free people can move away from cynicism into optimism.

When Theodor Herzl in late 1895 coined the term  Der Jeden Staat (Jewish State), he was ridiculed, insulted, and called him a delusional misfit. Instead of all negative publicity, Theodor Herzl was successful in creating a Zionist movement which resulted in the birth of a Jewish state in 1948. Herzl's slogans provided the settings at which Jewish politicians could work hard to establish Israel, and the only Jewish state in the world. Now Jews around the world supports the Jewish state. Zionism support Jews upholding their Jewish identity and opposes Jewish discrimination, exclusion, and persecution around the world.  

 

Jewish people have been forced to wander around the world for more than 2000 years. Without any Jewish state, Muslims and Christians, through a combination of anti Jewish attitudes and measures have been discriminating, and even killing Jewish people. Now, a total of 15 million Jewish people exist in the world. But they are a powerful force to be reckoned with. With 7.5 billion Islamic people with 71 Islamic nations could not wipe out tiny democratic, progressive peace loving and pluralist Israel. Israel is committed to Cultural identity, commitment for pluralistic values, and respect for freedom and positive outlook, economic progress and democracy.

These democratic values, freedom and progress are possible only with Hindus declaring India as a Hindu Rashtra. Naming India as a Hindu Rashtra may generate both positive and negative comments and images and expectations from friends and foes.

 

Our own hope has been dramatically renewed by recent conference organized by Hindu Janjagrathi at Goa. It seems Hindus are slowly waking up from the slumber by the miraculous work by Tapan Ghosh and Radheshyam Brahmachari in West Bengal, Hindu Aykavedi in Kerala, and Hindu Munnani in Tamilnadu and Hindu organizations in different parts of India is working for a Hindu Rashtra.  More important, these Hindu movements offer a campaign plan.

 

Intellectuals and prominent professional luminaries from different parts of the world have written and expatiated the abstract concept, the functional concept, strategies and action plan for a Hindu rastra. Tapan Ghosh and Brahmachari (Calcutta), Dr. Bala Aiyer (Houston) Bhagavat Goel (New Delhi) V. Sundaram (Chennai), Deivamuthu (Mumbai) Aryan Kstsris, and Arish Sahani (New York) Dr. Subramaniya Swami (New Delhi) Swami Jyothi (Bangalore) Dr. Togadia (New Delhi) Sarvarkar Vinayak (London) have written and advocated all Hindus to build around  a set of creative ideas, to get Hindus moving. Hindus can now say that Hindu Rashtra is not a slogan but a concrete reality. Whenever we feel stuck, paralyzed, intimidated, or overwhelmed, whenever we feel helpless and hopeless, we need to understand, that our situation is never as static as it may appear to be.  Hope always involves that breaking open of new possibilities from seemingly hopeless circumstances. We know too well the death and mayhem resulting from nefarious activities of the bogus secular, criminal, corrupt anti national, anti Hindu politicians. We know the destruction caused by atheist, phony secularists who relentlessly work against Hindus and for appeasing Muslims and our enemies. We have to include in our activities and in our deliberations ways to overcome the destruction caused by the anti national political parties. We need to plant seeds of change in every Hindu who are indoctrinated and brainwashed to act like zombies for our enemies.

 

Unlike Islam, Marxism, and Christianity Hindu Dharma is a closed dogma and we do not have any sect or way of worship or one Messiah, or one prophet. Hindus have different Panthas or ways of worship. We respect and approve the Vedic system, Buddhist system, Jainism, Sikhism, Vaishnava, Shaiva, Shakta, Ligayat, Arya Samaj, Brahma Samaj and these special ways reach the truth. Hindus respect and approve Bhakti Marga, Jnana Marga, and Karma Marga according to one's intellectual and physical inclination, capacity and nature. According to Dr. Radhakrishnan Hinduism is not a closed dogma or sect but it is a great commonwealth who believe in Dharma and truth who seek Vasudeva Kudambakham.

Hindus call our way of life as santhan Dharma. Hindu Dharma promotes freedom, democracy, pluralism, and respect nature and wholeness of all living and non- living entities. Our great Rishis have developed different thought system and means to achieve equanimity, patience, health, forgiveness, control of mind, purity of thought and action, peace, progress, development of the intellect, knowledge and transcendental achievement.

 

The concept of Rshtra is nothing new. It can be found in Rig Veda. From ancient days to modern times, Hindu Rashtra was in existence. Eminent personalities have again and again insisted that Bharat Bhumi is punyaBhumi and now the time has come that Hindus around the world must join together and declare Bharat as a HINDU RASHTRE.

Hindu Rashtra may polarize ant national, anti Hindu people. Social issues may be created by our enemies. It is likely that these issues will come before Hindus. These issues only add fuel to an already explosive climate created by our distracters.  Hindus must face it, confront it and resolve social issues that may be created by ant Hindu forces. Hindus have to work together for a change. Hindus have too many enemies who want to destroy us from within and without. Hindus should not be reluctant to take the first step to declare Bharat as a Hindu Rashtra. Does anyone believe that it is not a good thing?

 


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Re: [rti4empowerment] Fwd: State CIC aims to dispose of 550 appeals per month .... TOI 12 Jul pg 7

Appriciate your efforts to insert the negative thoughts in my mind, this does not help in long run.

Bhaskar

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 7:34 PM, DSouza Wilberious Evanglist <wilevades@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Dear Bhasker Prabhu,
New broom sweeps well ????!!! but, soon it will be, in the company of pigling, calf also begins to eat night soil.

From: Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>
To: Vikram Simha <vikramsimha54@yahoo.co.in>; rti_india@googlegroups.com; rti_india@yahoogroups.com; rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 14 July 2012, 10:29
Subject: [rti4empowerment] Fwd: State CIC aims to dispose of 550 appeals per month .... TOI 12 Jul pg 7



YOUR
RIGHT TO KNOW

State CIC aims to dispose of 550 appeals per month

Prafulla Marpakwar TNN


Mumbai: After taking over as the state chief information commissioner, Ratnakar Gaikwad has put on fast track the entire set-up to provide information to the common man. Besides setting a target for disposal of pending appeals within six months, Gaikwad has knocked at the doors of all the heads of departments for implementation of the RTI Act in letter and spirit.
    "I found that a large number of appeals are pending across the state. All regional commissioners will have to draft a strategy for early disposal. In 24 working days, since I took over, I have disposed of 400 appeals. I have decided to dispose of at least 550 appeals per month," Gaikwad said.
    The former chief secretary said that while 4,500 appeals are pending before the CIC, nearly 21,000 appeals are pending across the state before regional commissioners. "I studied the working of central information commissioner Shailesh Gandhi, who disposed of 500 to 550 appeals a month. It should not be difficult to do the same," he said.
    Gaikwad has drafted an ambitious plan to bring in more accountability. "We must set a deadline," he said.
    On reviewing RTI Act implementation, Gaikwad found there was lack of seriousness at all levels and authorities did not pay enough attention on implementation. "First appellate authorities are not passing orders within 30 days and in many cases, orders are not well reasoned," Gaikwad said in a letter to civic chief Sitaram Kunte.
    Further, Gaikwad said, a scrutiny reveals that immediate superiors of officers dealing with RTI were not concerned about implementation.
    Gaikwad has asked the BMC to catalogue all records, make them available to the public, make record management technologically driven, make special arrangements for aid to citizens, conduct a monthly review of receipt and disposal of applications and monitor compliance of CIC orders. He has further asked the BMC to take seriously all hearings before the CIC or the commissioner, depute a senior official for the purpose and draft a plan for implementing CIC directives. "Any lapse in the implementation hereafter will be viewed seriously," Gaikwad warned.

Number of appeals pending in state: 20,606

•Mumbai : 4,094

•Konkan : 1,728

•Pune : 4,856

•Aurangabad : 3,252

•Nashik : 2,734

•Amravati : 1,703

•Nagpur : 599



--
Yours in service of RTI

Bhaskar Prabhu
Mahiti Adhikar Manch
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Mahiti Adhikar Manch
9892102424

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Re: [HumJanenge] For Attn: Mr. Girish Mittal

Mr Sarbajit,

What kind of JS (Law) is Mr Akash Deep Chakravarti, if he does not even know a WP number in the Delhi HC but still insists that the a reference be made in the CIC order ?

Please see:


Points (ii), (v) and (vi) 
Since the DoPT has obtained a stay order from the Delhi High Court on the said directive of the
Commission, these points can only be taken up after the court pronounces  its  final decision.

With such a JS (Law), no wonder ICs are passing illegal orders. LOL

RTIwanted

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:24 AM
Subject: [HumJanenge] For Attn: Mr. Girish Mittal

Dear Girish

.
.
.


PS: You will note that Mr. Akash Deep was also present in the decision
I have cited.

Warmly
Sarbajit


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Re: [HumJanenge] Re: WHY WE NEED A HINDU RASHTRA?

Dear Col Singh

1) I don't know how your message got pass our group moderation filters.
2) This is an RTI (Right to Information) discussion group.
3) As Indians (ie. Hindus) we are committed to secularism (as
distinguished from "pseudo-secularism") Nonetheless I would like to
respond to this very provocative post which is otherwise OFF-TOPIC

Firstly, I would very much like to know what your definition of
"Hindu" is. In the law of India (Hindu Code of 1955 onwards) a Hindu
is everyone who is NOT a) Muslim, b) Christian c) Jewish d) Parsi e)
Sikh f) Buddhist / Jain, g) Arya Samajist, h) BrahmoSamajist
i)Prarthana Samajist etc. Also all members of Scheduled Tribes are NOT
Hindus in law. Previously the Privy Council has held that clans like
"Jats" etc. are not Hindus The net position is that "Hindus"
(regretably) thus constitute only less than 30% of India's population
- hardly conducive for a "Hindu" Rashtra. That Babu Suseelan is an
idiot is evident from his condescending statement that Sikhs, Jains,
Aryans, Brahmas etc are ways of worship to reach Hinduism's truth.
Does Babu Suseelan even know WHY the laws of a MUSLIM country
(Bangladesh) distinguish Hindus from Sikhs, Jains, Aryans, Brahmas etc
or has he even heard of a great Hindu like Bal Gangadhar Tilak or know
his views on this?

Secondly, I recall the fate of the world's only Hindu Rashtra - NEPAL
- now a country within the fold of our Enemy No.1. As a military man
you will know that Nepal was lost to Hinduism the day certain "Hindu"
priests (secretly in the pay of Enemy No.1) encouraged a certain old
royal lady to stage manage the (perfectly scripted) systematic
assassination of 1 branch of her family. Is this what you want for
India ?

There is 1 and only 1 way to "convert" India into a Hindu Rashtra -
wipe out all idol worship - and if that doesn't work wipe out all idol
worshippers. It is the HINDU culture of idol worship which encourages
slogans like 'India is Indira (Bharat Mata)", "(uneducated) Sonia is
Durga" etc in the minds of our great unwashed illiterate masses. A
necessary step for this is to break every temple we can find - break
them like the Babri structure was brought down.

After that we can start working on problem #2 - How to control our
(non-idol-worshipping) population so as to achieve Akhand Bharat which
shall stretch from China to KanyaKumari.

Warmly
Sarbajit

On 7/13/12, Col Thakur Singh <thakursinghk@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Yes I agree with you.
>
> Tell me , what amendment is required to be done in our constitution for
> the change.
> There must be a particular term to replace , 'SECULAR ', with appropriate
> one and becoming a religious state.
>
> Regards
>
> Col Thakur Singh
> 919873379995
> President,
> Jan Sangh Party
> (HP)
>
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Babu Suseelan
> <babususeelan@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> HINDU RASHTRA: THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THE PARTISAN POLITICS THAT IS
>> DESTRYING INDIA.
>>
>> Dr. BABU SUSEELAN
>>
>>
>>
>> Having spent most of my life abroad, and viewing and analyzing India from
>> a distance, I was confronted with the good, the bad and ugliness of
>> Indian
>> politics.
>>
>> DECALARE INDIA AS A HINDU RASHTRA. This is the only one cure for the
>> plague of cynicism, Islamic terrorism, and appeasement of Muslims,
>> internal
>> disturbances created by subversive agents, anti Indian attitude of the
>> media, political corruption, lack of economic progress, and crises
>> created
>> by regional, criminal politicians, and inefficiency and corruption in the
>> bureaucracy. Our enemies have injected so many thought viruses in Indian
>> political life. The only cure for the illness and the only way out of
>> the mess is to declare India as a Hindu Rashtra.
>>
>>
>>
>> From Kashmir to Kerala, the government is mismanaging the economy, public
>> funds are diverted to Muslims and Christians, and coercive religious
>> conversion is encouraged and supported. Instead of moving the country
>> forward, the central government controlled by the uneducated Italian
>> catholic lady Antonio Maino and many state governments (Except Gujarat)
>> work against the interests of the majority Hindus.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Media, instead of unmasking the hypocrisy of corrupt, criminal
>> politicians, subversive organizations, individuals who act as subversive
>> agents who create and deepen the crises in India, endorse and support the
>> patrician politics that divide the nation. For years, our media
>> contributed to the climate of corruption, subversive activities
>> polarizing
>> the nation, and helped to spread the contentious and dangerous messages
>> of
>> Muslims and anti national groups.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Media supports "politics of destruction". The print and TV media also
>> invite and promote corrupt, criminal politicians, subversive groups and
>> anti national, anti Hindu groups on the news and talk show programs for
>> the
>> simple reason that it brings applause from our enemies.
>>
>>
>>
>> HINDU RESHTRA: SLOGAN OR CHOICE?
>>
>>
>>
>> Naming India as a Hindu Reshtra will explode the conventional wisdom.
>> Hindus from Kashmir to Kerala have a role to play. If large enough
>> members
>> of Hindu community demand a Hindu Rashtra, India's criminal and corrupt
>> politicians have to heed to their demands. The Hindus have to challenge
>> criminal, anti India, anti Hindu politicians to do better and make them
>> do
>> better for Hindus and the Hindu Rashtra.
>>
>>
>>
>> To be honest, the crises Hindus face is now so deep and transformation
>> required is so fundamental that real change can sometime feel almost
>> impossible. How do we keep Hindus move with the slogan "HINDU RASHTRA"
>> into
>> a reality? We need to force Hindus into real freedom. Only free people
>> can move away from cynicism into optimism.
>>
>> When Theodor Herzl in late 1895 coined the term Der Jeden Staat (Jewish
>> State), he was ridiculed, insulted, and called him a delusional misfit.
>> Instead of all negative publicity, Theodor Herzl was successful in
>> creating
>> a Zionist movement which resulted in the birth of a Jewish state in 1948.
>> Herzl's slogans provided the settings at which Jewish politicians could
>> work hard to establish Israel, and the only Jewish state in the world.
>> Now
>> Jews around the world supports the Jewish state. Zionism support Jews
>> upholding their Jewish identity and opposes Jewish discrimination,
>> exclusion, and persecution around the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jewish people have been forced to wander around the world for more than
>> 2000 years. Without any Jewish state, Muslims and Christians, through a
>> combination of anti Jewish attitudes and measures have been
>> discriminating,
>> and even killing Jewish people. Now, a total of 15 million Jewish people
>> exist in the world. But they are a powerful force to be reckoned with.
>> With
>> 7.5 billion Islamic people with 71 Islamic nations could not wipe out
>> tiny
>> democratic, progressive peace loving and pluralist Israel. Israel is
>> committed to Cultural identity, commitment for pluralistic values, and
>> respect for freedom and positive outlook, economic progress and
>> democracy.
>>
>> These democratic values, freedom and progress are possible only with
>> Hindus declaring India as a Hindu Rashtra. Naming India as a Hindu
>> Rashtra
>> may generate both positive and negative comments and images and
>> expectations from friends and foes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Our own hope has been dramatically renewed by recent conference organized
>> by Hindu Janjagrathi at Goa. It seems Hindus are slowly waking up from
>> the
>> slumber by the miraculous work by Tapan Ghosh and Radheshyam Brahmachari
>> in
>> West Bengal, Hindu Aykavedi in Kerala, and Hindu Munnani in Tamilnadu and
>> Hindu organizations in different parts of India is working for a Hindu
>> Rashtra. More important, these Hindu movements offer a campaign plan.
>>
>>
>>
>> Intellectuals and prominent professional luminaries from different parts
>> of the world have written and expatiated the abstract concept, the
>> functional concept, strategies and action plan for a Hindu rastra. Tapan
>> Ghosh and Brahmachari (Calcutta), Dr. Bala Aiyer (Houston) Bhagavat Goel
>> (New Delhi) V. Sundaram (Chennai), Deivamuthu (Mumbai) Aryan Kstsris, and
>> Arish Sahani (New York) Dr. Subramaniya Swami (New Delhi) Swami Jyothi
>> (Bangalore) Dr. Togadia (New Delhi) Sarvarkar Vinayak (London) have
>> written
>> and advocated all Hindus to build around a set of creative ideas, to get
>> Hindus moving. Hindus can now say that Hindu Rashtra is not a slogan but
>> a
>> concrete reality. Whenever we feel stuck, paralyzed, intimidated, or
>> overwhelmed, whenever we feel helpless and hopeless, we need to
>> understand,
>> that our situation is never as static as it may appear to be. Hope
>> always involves that breaking open of new possibilities from seemingly
>> hopeless circumstances. We know too well the death and mayhem resulting
>> from nefarious activities of the bogus secular, criminal, corrupt anti
>> national, anti Hindu politicians. We know the destruction caused by
>> atheist, phony secularists who relentlessly work against Hindus and for
>> appeasing Muslims and our enemies. We have to include in our activities
>> and
>> in our deliberations ways to overcome the destruction caused by the anti
>> national political parties. We need to plant seeds of change in every
>> Hindu
>> who are indoctrinated and brainwashed to act like zombies for our
>> enemies.
>>
>>
>>
>> Unlike Islam, Marxism, and Christianity Hindu Dharma is a closed dogma
>> and
>> we do not have any sect or way of worship or one Messiah, or one prophet.
>> Hindus have different Panthas or ways of worship. We respect and approve
>> the Vedic system, Buddhist system, Jainism, Sikhism, Vaishnava, Shaiva,
>> Shakta, Ligayat, Arya Samaj, Brahma Samaj and these special ways reach
>> the
>> truth. Hindus respect and approve Bhakti Marga, Jnana Marga, and Karma
>> Marga according to one's intellectual and physical inclination, capacity
>> and nature. According to Dr. Radhakrishnan Hinduism is not a closed dogma
>> or sect but it is a great commonwealth who believe in Dharma and truth
>> who
>> seek Vasudeva Kudambakham.
>>
>> Hindus call our way of life as santhan Dharma. Hindu Dharma promotes
>> freedom, democracy, pluralism, and respect nature and wholeness of all
>> living and non- living entities. Our great Rishis have developed
>> different
>> thought system and means to achieve equanimity, patience, health,
>> forgiveness, control of mind, purity of thought and action, peace,
>> progress, development of the intellect, knowledge and transcendental
>> achievement.
>>
>>
>>
>> The concept of Rshtra is nothing new. It can be found in Rig Veda. From
>> ancient days to modern times, Hindu Rashtra was in existence. Eminent
>> personalities have again and again insisted that Bharat Bhumi is
>> punyaBhumi
>> and now the time has come that Hindus around the world must join together
>> and declare Bharat as a HINDU RASHTRE.
>>
>> Hindu Rashtra may polarize ant national, anti Hindu people. Social issues
>> may be created by our enemies. It is likely that these issues will come
>> before Hindus. These issues only add fuel to an already explosive climate
>> created by our distracters. Hindus must face it, confront it and resolve
>> social issues that may be created by ant Hindu forces. Hindus have to
>> work
>> together for a change. Hindus have too many enemies who want to destroy
>> us
>> from within and without. Hindus should not be reluctant to take the first
>> step to declare Bharat as a Hindu Rashtra. Does anyone believe that it is
>> not a good thing?
>>
>>
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Re: [HumJanenge] Aruna Roy knows nothing about RTI

The answer to your query is that Ms. Aruna Roy is a professional
NGO-wali (ie. a useless parasite who can do nothing except "sing for
her supper").

For more details please read this
(PS: I have nothing to do with this story)
http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=530

Sarbajit

On 7/12/12, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> If Aruna Roy does not know anything about the RTI, I am not baffled and do
> not know why others should be when most of the citizens do not know or know
> little about the RTI. But I failed why the Toi has published her statement
> instead of Mr. Roy who claims to be the master of RTI.
>
>
>
> :Bhushan Malgaonkar <bhushan_malgaonkar@yahoo.com>
> To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2012 12:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Aruna Roy knows nothing about RTI
>
>
> Plz specify the present status of CBI, NIA, NATGrid being added by amendment
> in the Second Schedule of RTI Act, 2005. I had heard of a court case
> challenging this amendment but I haven't heard of anything of what happened
> of that court case.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:48 AM
> Subject: [HumJanenge] Aruna Roy knows nothing about RTI
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/pune/Bring-CBI-UID-under-RTI-ambit-says-Aruna-Roy/articleshow/14758249.cms
>
> After reading this Times of India news report, I conclude that Madam
> Aruna Roy is an ignorant female who hardly knows anything about RTI.
>
> For instance she is quoted as saying "Bring CBI, UID under RTI ambit"
> and "Social activist Aruna Roy said that central agencies such as the
> CBI, the Biotechnology Regulatory Authority of India and the Unique
> Identification Authority of India (UID) should be brought under the
> purview of the Right to Information (RTI) Act."
>
> For her information, I got the UIDAI brought within RTI a few month
> BEFORE it became functional. Now this corrupt lady (a professional NGO
> parasite who operates from under Sonia's petticoats) wants to take
> UIDAI out of RTI ambit and mislead the public. Very similar to her
> efforts to get RTI requests limited to 250 / 500 words till I
> stopped
> her.
>
> Former Information Commissioner Shailesh Gandhi also had some things
> to say in that news report. I shall be posting on him separately.
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[HumJanenge] For Attn: Mr. Girish Mittal

Dear Girish

http://www.moneylife.in/article/did-the-chief-information-commissioner-subvert-rti-provisions-to-protect-a-cic-officer/26903.html

I would like to publicly discuss with you your father's RTI
application to CIC, and your moneylife article in the background of
this CIC decision in which I intervened.

http://indiankanoon.org/doc/990634/

I find that your father's RTI application is word for word a copy of
Shekhar SIngh's RTI of 2008 which I intervened to get disclosure
stopped in the NATIONAL INTEREST.

Since the Chief Information Commissioner in 2010 has already decided
that the information cannot be disclosed, who the F*** is a mere IC
like SG to over-rule him in 2011 ?

This is exactly the point of the Delhi High Court's latest order which
shred's Shailesh Bhai's arbitrary and egoistic (and as per me corrupt)
style of functioning. This is also why HONEST and COMPETENT
(relatively) officers are forced to approach Courts against
INCOMPETENT and CORRUPT Information Commissioners who are obliging
their NCRPI seniors (who got him his job .. with pension).

PS: You will note that Mr. Akash Deep was also present in the decision
I have cited.

Warmly
Sarbajit
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Re: [rti4empowerment] Fwd: State CIC aims to dispose of 550 appeals per month .... TOI 12 Jul pg 7

Dear Bhasker Prabhu,
New broom sweeps well ????!!! but, soon it will be, in the company of pigling, calf also begins to eat night soil.

From: Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>
To: Vikram Simha <vikramsimha54@yahoo.co.in>; rti_india@googlegroups.com; rti_india@yahoogroups.com; rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 14 July 2012, 10:29
Subject: [rti4empowerment] Fwd: State CIC aims to dispose of 550 appeals per month .... TOI 12 Jul pg 7



YOUR
RIGHT TO KNOW

State CIC aims to dispose of 550 appeals per month

Prafulla Marpakwar TNN


Mumbai: After taking over as the state chief information commissioner, Ratnakar Gaikwad has put on fast track the entire set-up to provide information to the common man. Besides setting a target for disposal of pending appeals within six months, Gaikwad has knocked at the doors of all the heads of departments for implementation of the RTI Act in letter and spirit.
    "I found that a large number of appeals are pending across the state. All regional commissioners will have to draft a strategy for early disposal. In 24 working days, since I took over, I have disposed of 400 appeals. I have decided to dispose of at least 550 appeals per month," Gaikwad said.
    The former chief secretary said that while 4,500 appeals are pending before the CIC, nearly 21,000 appeals are pending across the state before regional commissioners. "I studied the working of central information commissioner Shailesh Gandhi, who disposed of 500 to 550 appeals a month. It should not be difficult to do the same," he said.
    Gaikwad has drafted an ambitious plan to bring in more accountability. "We must set a deadline," he said.
    On reviewing RTI Act implementation, Gaikwad found there was lack of seriousness at all levels and authorities did not pay enough attention on implementation. "First appellate authorities are not passing orders within 30 days and in many cases, orders are not well reasoned," Gaikwad said in a letter to civic chief Sitaram Kunte.
    Further, Gaikwad said, a scrutiny reveals that immediate superiors of officers dealing with RTI were not concerned about implementation.
    Gaikwad has asked the BMC to catalogue all records, make them available to the public, make record management technologically driven, make special arrangements for aid to citizens, conduct a monthly review of receipt and disposal of applications and monitor compliance of CIC orders. He has further asked the BMC to take seriously all hearings before the CIC or the commissioner, depute a senior official for the purpose and draft a plan for implementing CIC directives. "Any lapse in the implementation hereafter will be viewed seriously," Gaikwad warned.

Number of appeals pending in state: 20,606

•Mumbai : 4,094

•Konkan : 1,728

•Pune : 4,856

•Aurangabad : 3,252

•Nashik : 2,734

•Amravati : 1,703

•Nagpur : 599



--
Yours in service of RTI

Bhaskar Prabhu
Mahiti Adhikar Manch
9892102424

www.facebook.com/mahitiadhikarmanch









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Friday, July 13, 2012

[rti4empowerment] Fwd: State CIC aims to dispose of 550 appeals per month .... TOI 12 Jul pg 7



YOUR
RIGHT TO KNOW

State CIC aims to dispose of 550 appeals per month

Prafulla Marpakwar TNN


Mumbai: After taking over as the state chief information commissioner, Ratnakar Gaikwad has put on fast track the entire set-up to provide information to the common man. Besides setting a target for disposal of pending appeals within six months, Gaikwad has knocked at the doors of all the heads of departments for implementation of the RTI Act in letter and spirit.
    "I found that a large number of appeals are pending across the state. All regional commissioners will have to draft a strategy for early disposal. In 24 working days, since I took over, I have disposed of 400 appeals. I have decided to dispose of at least 550 appeals per month," Gaikwad said.
    The former chief secretary said that while 4,500 appeals are pending before the CIC, nearly 21,000 appeals are pending across the state before regional commissioners. "I studied the working of central information commissioner Shailesh Gandhi, who disposed of 500 to 550 appeals a month. It should not be difficult to do the same," he said.
    Gaikwad has drafted an ambitious plan to bring in more accountability. "We must set a deadline," he said.
    On reviewing RTI Act implementation, Gaikwad found there was lack of seriousness at all levels and authorities did not pay enough attention on implementation. "First appellate authorities are not passing orders within 30 days and in many cases, orders are not well reasoned," Gaikwad said in a letter to civic chief Sitaram Kunte.
    Further, Gaikwad said, a scrutiny reveals that immediate superiors of officers dealing with RTI were not concerned about implementation.
    Gaikwad has asked the BMC to catalogue all records, make them available to the public, make record management technologically driven, make special arrangements for aid to citizens, conduct a monthly review of receipt and disposal of applications and monitor compliance of CIC orders. He has further asked the BMC to take seriously all hearings before the CIC or the commissioner, depute a senior official for the purpose and draft a plan for implementing CIC directives. "Any lapse in the implementation hereafter will be viewed seriously," Gaikwad warned.

Number of appeals pending in state: 20,606

•Mumbai : 4,094

•Konkan : 1,728

•Pune : 4,856

•Aurangabad : 3,252

•Nashik : 2,734

•Amravati : 1,703

•Nagpur : 599



--
Yours in service of RTI

Bhaskar Prabhu
Mahiti Adhikar Manch
9892102424

www.facebook.com/mahitiadhikarmanch







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[HumJanenge] Curios Case of Satyanand Mishra

Dear Friends,

Please read this interesting case of how Satyanand Mishra is going out of his way to protect a staff member:


Regards.

Girish Mittal
09323462428
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[HumJanenge] Re: WHY WE NEED A HINDU RASHTRA?

Hi

Yes I agree with you.

Tell me , what amendment is required to be done in our constitution for  the change.
There must be a particular term to replace , 'SECULAR ', with appropriate one and becoming a religious state.

Regards

Col Thakur Singh 
919873379995
President,
Jan Sangh Party 
(HP)

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Babu Suseelan <babususeelan@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

 

HINDU RASHTRA: THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THE PARTISAN POLITICS THAT IS DESTRYING INDIA.

Dr. BABU SUSEELAN

 

Having spent most of my life abroad, and viewing and analyzing India from a distance, I was confronted with the good, the bad and ugliness of Indian politics.

DECALARE INDIA AS A HINDU RASHTRA.  This is the only one cure for the plague of cynicism, Islamic terrorism, and appeasement of Muslims, internal disturbances created by subversive agents, anti Indian attitude of the media, political corruption, lack of economic progress, and crises created by regional, criminal politicians, and inefficiency and corruption in the bureaucracy. Our enemies have injected so many thought viruses in Indian political life.  The only cure for the illness and the only way out of the mess is to declare India as a Hindu Rashtra.

 

From Kashmir to Kerala, the government is mismanaging the economy, public funds are diverted to Muslims and Christians, and coercive religious conversion is encouraged and supported. Instead of moving the country forward, the central government controlled by the uneducated Italian catholic lady Antonio Maino and many state governments (Except Gujarat) work against the interests of the majority Hindus.

 

The Media, instead of unmasking the hypocrisy of corrupt, criminal politicians, subversive organizations, individuals who act as subversive agents who create and deepen the crises in India, endorse and support the patrician politics that divide the nation.  For years, our media contributed to the climate of corruption, subversive activities polarizing the nation, and helped to spread the contentious and dangerous messages of Muslims and anti national groups.

 

The Media supports "politics of destruction". The print and TV media also invite and promote corrupt, criminal politicians, subversive groups and anti national, anti Hindu groups on the news and talk show programs for the simple reason that it brings applause from our enemies.

 

HINDU RESHTRA: SLOGAN OR CHOICE?

 

Naming India as a Hindu Reshtra will explode the conventional wisdom. Hindus from Kashmir to Kerala have a role to play. If large enough members of Hindu community demand a Hindu Rashtra, India's criminal and corrupt politicians have to heed to their demands. The Hindus have to challenge criminal, anti India, anti Hindu politicians to do better and make them do better for Hindus and the Hindu Rashtra.

 

To be honest, the crises Hindus face is now so deep and transformation required is so fundamental that real change can sometime feel almost impossible. How do we keep Hindus move with the slogan "HINDU RASHTRA" into a reality? We need to force Hindus into real freedom.  Only free people can move away from cynicism into optimism.

When Theodor Herzl in late 1895 coined the term  Der Jeden Staat (Jewish State), he was ridiculed, insulted, and called him a delusional misfit. Instead of all negative publicity, Theodor Herzl was successful in creating a Zionist movement which resulted in the birth of a Jewish state in 1948. Herzl's slogans provided the settings at which Jewish politicians could work hard to establish Israel, and the only Jewish state in the world. Now Jews around the world supports the Jewish state. Zionism support Jews upholding their Jewish identity and opposes Jewish discrimination, exclusion, and persecution around the world.  

 

Jewish people have been forced to wander around the world for more than 2000 years. Without any Jewish state, Muslims and Christians, through a combination of anti Jewish attitudes and measures have been discriminating, and even killing Jewish people. Now, a total of 15 million Jewish people exist in the world. But they are a powerful force to be reckoned with. With 7.5 billion Islamic people with 71 Islamic nations could not wipe out tiny democratic, progressive peace loving and pluralist Israel. Israel is committed to Cultural identity, commitment for pluralistic values, and respect for freedom and positive outlook, economic progress and democracy.

These democratic values, freedom and progress are possible only with Hindus declaring India as a Hindu Rashtra. Naming India as a Hindu Rashtra may generate both positive and negative comments and images and expectations from friends and foes.

 

Our own hope has been dramatically renewed by recent conference organized by Hindu Janjagrathi at Goa. It seems Hindus are slowly waking up from the slumber by the miraculous work by Tapan Ghosh and Radheshyam Brahmachari in West Bengal, Hindu Aykavedi in Kerala, and Hindu Munnani in Tamilnadu and Hindu organizations in different parts of India is working for a Hindu Rashtra.  More important, these Hindu movements offer a campaign plan.

 

Intellectuals and prominent professional luminaries from different parts of the world have written and expatiated the abstract concept, the functional concept, strategies and action plan for a Hindu rastra. Tapan Ghosh and Brahmachari (Calcutta), Dr. Bala Aiyer (Houston) Bhagavat Goel (New Delhi) V. Sundaram (Chennai), Deivamuthu (Mumbai) Aryan Kstsris, and Arish Sahani (New York) Dr. Subramaniya Swami (New Delhi) Swami Jyothi (Bangalore) Dr. Togadia (New Delhi) Sarvarkar Vinayak (London) have written and advocated all Hindus to build around  a set of creative ideas, to get Hindus moving. Hindus can now say that Hindu Rashtra is not a slogan but a concrete reality. Whenever we feel stuck, paralyzed, intimidated, or overwhelmed, whenever we feel helpless and hopeless, we need to understand, that our situation is never as static as it may appear to be.  Hope always involves that breaking open of new possibilities from seemingly hopeless circumstances. We know too well the death and mayhem resulting from nefarious activities of the bogus secular, criminal, corrupt anti national, anti Hindu politicians. We know the destruction caused by atheist, phony secularists who relentlessly work against Hindus and for appeasing Muslims and our enemies. We have to include in our activities and in our deliberations ways to overcome the destruction caused by the anti national political parties. We need to plant seeds of change in every Hindu who are indoctrinated and brainwashed to act like zombies for our enemies.

 

Unlike Islam, Marxism, and Christianity Hindu Dharma is a closed dogma and we do not have any sect or way of worship or one Messiah, or one prophet. Hindus have different Panthas or ways of worship. We respect and approve the Vedic system, Buddhist system, Jainism, Sikhism, Vaishnava, Shaiva, Shakta, Ligayat, Arya Samaj, Brahma Samaj and these special ways reach the truth. Hindus respect and approve Bhakti Marga, Jnana Marga, and Karma Marga according to one's intellectual and physical inclination, capacity and nature. According to Dr. Radhakrishnan Hinduism is not a closed dogma or sect but it is a great commonwealth who believe in Dharma and truth who seek Vasudeva Kudambakham.

Hindus call our way of life as santhan Dharma. Hindu Dharma promotes freedom, democracy, pluralism, and respect nature and wholeness of all living and non- living entities. Our great Rishis have developed different thought system and means to achieve equanimity, patience, health, forgiveness, control of mind, purity of thought and action, peace, progress, development of the intellect, knowledge and transcendental achievement.

 

The concept of Rshtra is nothing new. It can be found in Rig Veda. From ancient days to modern times, Hindu Rashtra was in existence. Eminent personalities have again and again insisted that Bharat Bhumi is punyaBhumi and now the time has come that Hindus around the world must join together and declare Bharat as a HINDU RASHTRE.

Hindu Rashtra may polarize ant national, anti Hindu people. Social issues may be created by our enemies. It is likely that these issues will come before Hindus. These issues only add fuel to an already explosive climate created by our distracters.  Hindus must face it, confront it and resolve social issues that may be created by ant Hindu forces. Hindus have to work together for a change. Hindus have too many enemies who want to destroy us from within and without. Hindus should not be reluctant to take the first step to declare Bharat as a Hindu Rashtra. Does anyone believe that it is not a good thing?

 


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Wednesday, July 11, 2012

Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Aruna Roy knows nothing about RTI

Dear Sarbajit Roy, u seems to be very angery with the system we r living in today so r we. but it seems we r all helpless n can do nothing as individual.Team anna is at least doing something to spread awareness among the masses.In democracy this is the only way to fight against elected government.Though it seems that everybody has some vested interest in whatever we r doing but financial corruption is highiest today n that's what has taken all of us for a ride n every body in power seems to be party in it. can we find an immidiate solution to it by any other means.

----- Original Message -----
From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, 12 July 2012 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Aruna Roy knows nothing about RTI

Dear Hemant

I am not "against" the Congress Party per se. I am against all
political parties.

FYI I have used the "search" facility provided by google, and came up
with these "anti-Congress" bon-mots posted to this group (on the very
first page of the search results .. google has 20 more pages like
this).

https://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/browse_thread/thread/428c6dc50578f9b7/084e0f5eb59147a1
"The entire device of NAC is a legal fiction for Ms.Sonia Gandhi to
interfere in Govt
openly and get access for her private network of Congress-Leftist touts into
corridors of power. (You will recall Sir, that the first UPA govt was
dependent on Communist support so the NAC was packed with left-leaning
Congress stooges). The members who pack the NAC are of 2 varieties - the
eminent senior persons who are regrettably all in their 80's and only
figure-heads, and the professional 'haramis' who actually do all the dirty
work. The NAC at present is therefore a fountain of corruption in India. "

https://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/browse_thread/thread/f1bc2f7cb768929/9f6faef54f695ed7

"I can cite 2 examples from my personal experience when M.M.Singh
(then Gov RBI) demonstrated his pliabillity. Only pliable and rootless
persons (he has never won an election)
are appointed to high positions in Congress of Corruption. The fact
that he is at such a high position is evidence that he is highly
pliable / corrupt."

"Dear Sharmaji

Don't you mean "Queen / Empress" instead of "King" ?

Empress Sonia and her army of bootpolishing Singhs (Buta/MM/Montek ...
) are the personifications of  corruption.

Where have all the Sirdars (like Kehar and Beant) gone off to when the
nation needs them most ? "

https://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/browse_thread/thread/4cc9ba244cf03146/e70ccc0da8f74e4c

"JFYI

1) We got the Congress party's land grab of industrial lands in Delhi stopped.

2)  We stalled for 6 years the persistent demands of the private
electricity companies of Delhi to raise their rates. It is an open
secret that these Delhi Discoms pay hundreds of crore rupees to
Congress High command every month. It was only when these URJA/ IAC
haramis became too much for us to handle in our individual capacities
that we withdrew and the results are here for everyone to see - bijli
tariff in Delhi was hiked 30% in a single day.

I could go on, but who the f*** are you to ask anyway ?. Sarbajit

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Mr. Hemant Kshirsagar < "

https://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/browse_thread/thread/8de25c107f455d01/5575515e534b1477

From: Sarbajit Roy <sro..@gm...>
Date: Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 11:07 PM
Subject: Simple reasons why Arvind Kejriwal & Co. are Congress puppets
(Part-1)
To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>

*1) The people of India want effective Institutions to inqure into and
prosecute complaints against 5 or 6 BIG-FISH like a) Chairperson NAC  b)
Chief Justice of India  c) Speaker of Lok Sabha d) Lieut Governor of Delhi
e) Dy. Chairman Planning Commission f) Governor RBI etc. etc. within 2 or 3
weeks
*
Instead, ARVIND & Co propose to give us an undersexed, overburdened,  11
member Commission (does this sound familiar <wink> ?) which will inquire and
prosecute complaints into 5 or 6 *MILLION* low level munchkins  within 2 or
3 *YEARS* (possibly) !!!!

Since Arvind & Co are on this list, do they have the balls to reply /
clarify ?

*2)* *As the people of India evidently want effective Institutions to
exclusively inquire into and prosecute complaints against TOP-LEVEL FIXERS &
UNELECTED / UNACCOUNTABLE PEOPLE EXERCISING "INFLUENCE" FROM TIME TO TIME
LIKE

A) SANJAY GANDHI
B) VINCENT GEORGE
C) RANJAN BHATTACHARYA
D) PULAK CHATTERJEE
E) ROBERT VADRA
F) SUMAN DUBEY,
G) NIRA RADIA, ETC. ETC.

DOES THE PROPOSED JAN LOKPAL ENCOMPASS SUCH PEOPLE DIRECTLY (ie. other than
as accessories / conspirators) , AND / OR ARE THE EXISTING INSTITUTIONS LIKE
POLICE / CBI / CVC / ACBs etc ADEQUATE / INADEQUATE ?

Sarbajit


On 7/11/12, Mr. Hemant Kshirsagar <hemantkshirsagar01@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am really waiting for the day when finally sarbijit roy will say or act
> against congress people? It is alway some other guy....
>
> Much a pity!!
>
> Regards,*
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:10 PM, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Guptaji
>>
>> Your suggestion is very well taken and noted.
>>
>> Can you please name me any unmoderated platform / forum
>> where either Aruna Roy or Shailesh Gandhi(ji) will condescend
>> to share with me ??
>>
>> In any case one of the prime purposes of this group is to
>> expose the professional RTI parasites.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2:24 pm, "M.K. Gupta" <mkgupta...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>> > Pl. do not make this platform to settle personal score with the people
>> > u
>> r allergic to.  If u want to join issues with Aruna Rao or Shailesh
>> Gandhi
>> ji, do it separately and this do not fall in the larger interest of the
>> members of this group.  Infighting will unnecessary divert our attention.
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Re: [HumJanenge] Aruna Roy knows nothing about RTI

If Aruna Roy does not know anything about the RTI, I am not baffled and do not know why others should be when most of the citizens do not know or know little about the RTI.  But I failed why the Toi has published her statement instead of Mr. Roy who claims to be the master of RTI.



: Bhushan Malgaonkar <bhushan_malgaonkar@yahoo.com>
To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2012 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Aruna Roy knows nothing about RTI

Plz specify the present status of CBI, NIA, NATGrid being added by amendment in the Second Schedule of RTI Act, 2005. I had heard of a court case challenging this amendment but I haven't heard of anything of what happened of that court case.

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:48 AM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Aruna Roy knows nothing about RTI

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/pune/Bring-CBI-UID-under-RTI-ambit-says-Aruna-Roy/articleshow/14758249.cms

After reading this Times of India news report, I conclude that Madam
Aruna Roy is an ignorant female who hardly knows anything about RTI.

For instance she is quoted as saying "Bring CBI, UID under RTI ambit"
and "Social activist Aruna Roy said that central agencies such as the
CBI, the Biotechnology Regulatory Authority of India and the Unique
Identification Authority of India (UID) should be brought under the
purview of the Right to Information (RTI) Act."

For her information, I got the UIDAI brought within RTI a few month
BEFORE it became functional. Now this corrupt lady (a professional NGO
parasite who operates from under Sonia's petticoats) wants to take
UIDAI out of RTI ambit and mislead the public. Very similar to her
efforts to get RTI requests limited to 250 / 500 words till I stopped
her.

Former Information Commissioner Shailesh Gandhi also had some things
to say in that news report. I shall be posting on him separately.




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Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Aruna Roy knows nothing about RTI

Dear Hemant

I am not "against" the Congress Party per se. I am against all
political parties.

FYI I have used the "search" facility provided by google, and came up
with these "anti-Congress" bon-mots posted to this group (on the very
first page of the search results .. google has 20 more pages like
this).

https://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/browse_thread/thread/428c6dc50578f9b7/084e0f5eb59147a1
"The entire device of NAC is a legal fiction for Ms.Sonia Gandhi to
interfere in Govt
openly and get access for her private network of Congress-Leftist touts into
corridors of power. (You will recall Sir, that the first UPA govt was
dependent on Communist support so the NAC was packed with left-leaning
Congress stooges). The members who pack the NAC are of 2 varieties - the
eminent senior persons who are regrettably all in their 80's and only
figure-heads, and the professional 'haramis' who actually do all the dirty
work. The NAC at present is therefore a fountain of corruption in India. "

https://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/browse_thread/thread/f1bc2f7cb768929/9f6faef54f695ed7

"I can cite 2 examples from my personal experience when M.M.Singh
(then Gov RBI) demonstrated his pliabillity. Only pliable and rootless
persons (he has never won an election)
are appointed to high positions in Congress of Corruption. The fact
that he is at such a high position is evidence that he is highly
pliable / corrupt."

"Dear Sharmaji

Don't you mean "Queen / Empress" instead of "King" ?

Empress Sonia and her army of bootpolishing Singhs (Buta/MM/Montek ...
) are the personifications of corruption.

Where have all the Sirdars (like Kehar and Beant) gone off to when the
nation needs them most ? "

https://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/browse_thread/thread/4cc9ba244cf03146/e70ccc0da8f74e4c

"JFYI

1) We got the Congress party's land grab of industrial lands in Delhi stopped.

2) We stalled for 6 years the persistent demands of the private
electricity companies of Delhi to raise their rates. It is an open
secret that these Delhi Discoms pay hundreds of crore rupees to
Congress High command every month. It was only when these URJA/ IAC
haramis became too much for us to handle in our individual capacities
that we withdrew and the results are here for everyone to see - bijli
tariff in Delhi was hiked 30% in a single day.

I could go on, but who the f*** are you to ask anyway ?. Sarbajit

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Mr. Hemant Kshirsagar < "

https://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/browse_thread/thread/8de25c107f455d01/5575515e534b1477

From: Sarbajit Roy <sro..@gm...>
Date: Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 11:07 PM
Subject: Simple reasons why Arvind Kejriwal & Co. are Congress puppets
(Part-1)
To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>

*1) The people of India want effective Institutions to inqure into and
prosecute complaints against 5 or 6 BIG-FISH like a) Chairperson NAC b)
Chief Justice of India c) Speaker of Lok Sabha d) Lieut Governor of Delhi
e) Dy. Chairman Planning Commission f) Governor RBI etc. etc. within 2 or 3
weeks
*
Instead, ARVIND & Co propose to give us an undersexed, overburdened, 11
member Commission (does this sound familiar <wink> ?) which will inquire and
prosecute complaints into 5 or 6 *MILLION* low level munchkins within 2 or
3 *YEARS* (possibly) !!!!

Since Arvind & Co are on this list, do they have the balls to reply /
clarify ?

*2)* *As the people of India evidently want effective Institutions to
exclusively inquire into and prosecute complaints against TOP-LEVEL FIXERS &
UNELECTED / UNACCOUNTABLE PEOPLE EXERCISING "INFLUENCE" FROM TIME TO TIME
LIKE

A) SANJAY GANDHI
B) VINCENT GEORGE
C) RANJAN BHATTACHARYA
D) PULAK CHATTERJEE
E) ROBERT VADRA
F) SUMAN DUBEY,
G) NIRA RADIA, ETC. ETC.

DOES THE PROPOSED JAN LOKPAL ENCOMPASS SUCH PEOPLE DIRECTLY (ie. other than
as accessories / conspirators) , AND / OR ARE THE EXISTING INSTITUTIONS LIKE
POLICE / CBI / CVC / ACBs etc ADEQUATE / INADEQUATE ?

Sarbajit


On 7/11/12, Mr. Hemant Kshirsagar <hemantkshirsagar01@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am really waiting for the day when finally sarbijit roy will say or act
> against congress people? It is alway some other guy....
>
> Much a pity!!
>
> Regards,*
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:10 PM, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Guptaji
>>
>> Your suggestion is very well taken and noted.
>>
>> Can you please name me any unmoderated platform / forum
>> where either Aruna Roy or Shailesh Gandhi(ji) will condescend
>> to share with me ??
>>
>> In any case one of the prime purposes of this group is to
>> expose the professional RTI parasites.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2:24 pm, "M.K. Gupta" <mkgupta...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>> > Pl. do not make this platform to settle personal score with the people
>> > u
>> r allergic to. If u want to join issues with Aruna Rao or Shailesh
>> Gandhi
>> ji, do it separately and this do not fall in the larger interest of the
>> members of this group. Infighting will unnecessary divert our attention.
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