Re: [HumJanenge] SONIA GANDHI-RELIGION- RTI challenges

Dear Dr Sharma

Your are wrong on virtually every point and your post is a careful
pastiche of fact, fiction and deception. BUT, this is not the forum to
discuss it.

For your convenience I am citing a link, but as is normal with
cultists you are programmed to disregard these.
http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/coues.htm

Sarbajit

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Dr. Jagnarain Sharma
<dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com> wrote:
> THANKS DEAR ROY YOU HAVE CORRECTED ME. BUT IN THEOSOPHICAL LITERATURE
> HIS NAME FIGURES.
> This is good that you have given lot of information on it
> That is why credit goes to Guru Ravindranath Tagore for
> introducing Theosophy in his University, which still is being taught
> there.
> Guru Ravindra nath Tagore's name also figures in Esperanto
> literature too, which is an international Language ( UNO has accepted
> it )and Mr SS Pal of Calcutta , who is Vice President of Esperanto
> Federation of India, is running a school for teaching the language.
>
> Guru Tagore believed in the International language and
> several foreign languages are also taught in Vihwabharti.
>
> I knew that you must be from Bengal, & will talk of
> Adi Brahmo Samaj as a religion, that is why I highlighted on Theosophy
> which believes in all religions of the world, including Brahmo Samaj
> Religion.
> The Esperanto & Theosophy have one goal ALONE like other
> GROUPS BASED ON WORLD PEACE:
> UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD
> So Theosophy is not a religion, which was established
> by Col. Olcot of USA & Madam H.B. Blavatsky of Russia & the
> Theosophy embraces all religions of the world including Brahmo samaj.
> May be Theosophy and Brahmo samaj not tallying on
> few of the facts, as you said but I have never come about any such
> differences between the two as I have remained for several years in
> Bengal.
> The members of Brahmo samaj have every right to become
> member of Theosophical Society and in my knowledge there is none who
> opposed theosophy.
>
> In my view there can not be any difference between the
> two or any other group or samaj.
> Now it is 135 years, after establishing of the
> Theos. Society, in 1875 and later shifted as International Hq. at
> Chennai.
>
> Yes to some extent you may be correct that worship is
> secretly done where Mahatma KootHumi, and other Mahatma's picture are
> kept.
> I may correct you that to join that secret group of Mahatma
> Kuthumi & other Mahatma, a member is allowed if he has completed
> membership of Theos society for three years.
> You may also be correct that many members of the
> Nehru-gandhi Parivar are/were members of theos Society.
> But it is misconception of a few & it is not a foreign
> society as it was shifted from New york to Chennai after say about
> five years say in 1890.
> Many more misapprehensions, about the role of
> Theosophical. society, in attaining independence they are not correct
> nor it is correct that it had foreign spies.
>
> I have to further state that I have not talked about Mrs
> Sonia Gandhi at all nor about her religion or politics.
>
> I believe that matter relating to politics should not be
> discussed under RTI group and if I find that she is against the RTI
> movement/ empowerment, I will be the first person to raise my voice.
> Members know me that so many mails against this Govt.
> has been sent by me who want SC Judges to be kept out side the ambit
> of RTI.
> Be sure for RTI I am with you and as also with all
> organisations which are fighting for its empowerment.
> As such I do not want to discuss any religion or
> politics under our group.
> Earlier also I never had discussed about religion or
> politics under this group or other groups.
> Regards
> DrJN Sharma
>
>
> On 12/14/10, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Dr Sharma
>>
>> I do not want to discuss religion on this group but RTI. My interest
>> in Sonia's religion is only to the extent it concerns RTI, decision of
>> P&H HC and the destruction/suppression of dox
>> which people are requesting in RTI.
>>
>> I can straight away correct you that Rabindranath Tagore was
>> interested in Theosophy or a believer in all religions. He was not. He
>> was the President of the Adi Brahmo Samaj which is a religion in its
>> own right (today the 9th largest religion of India with about 11
>> million adherents) and occasionally attended Theosophy meetings as an
>> invitee under his legal obligation to the Brahmic Trust Deed of 1830
>> drafted by his grandfather Dwarkanath Tagore.
>>
>> In any case if you go through the old records of the Theosophy Society
>> available online, you will find that Theosophy does not tally with
>> Brahmo religion and the theological principles are quite opposed.
>>
>> Theosophy was only taught (as an elective) after the Congress Govt
>> took over VishwaBharati. Theosophy in any case is only a front for
>> FreeMasons and other devil worship secret (KootHumi) societies. Many
>> members of the Nehru-gandhi Parivar are/were members of such foreign
>> organisations opposed to true independence for India/Indians. HPB,
>> Annie Besant etc
>> were foreign spies of the highest degree, and a former Law Minister of
>> India publicly
>> declares on his party website that Ms Sonia(?) Gandhi is another in the
>> line.
>>
>> Hence it is quite understandable why you (as a theosophist) do not
>> want Sonia Gandhi's religion to be exposed, - because she has none.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On 12/13/10, Dr. Jagnarain Sharma <dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Dear Sarabjit
>>> I do not want to discourage any one who is interested that Mrs
>>> Sonia Gandhi may TELL THAT WHAT RELIGION SHE BELONGS TO.
>>>
>>> I NEVER HATE ANY RELIGION, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN PRESIDENT OF
>>> THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY, AT LUCKNOW AND AM A MEMBER SINCE 1966.
>>>
>>> You will be surprised to know that THEOSOPHY IS ONE OF THE
>>> SUBJECT BEING TAUGHT IN VISHWABHARTI UNIVERSITY, SHANTINEKETAN,
>>> W.BENGAL and There is no other university in our country nor even in
>>> the whole world where THEOSOPHY is being taught as a subject. Shri
>>> Ravindra Nath Tagore, was too a believer in all religion and that is
>>> why he introduced THEOSOPHY IN HIS VISHWABHARTI UNVERSITY.
>>> I have been teaching at shantiniketan, West Bengal. I also
>>> had met Mr B L Bhattachrya, who is the Secretary Federation of
>>> Theosohical Society, Calcutta, W. Bengal.
>>>
>>> Though Dr Annie Besant who also was a britisher, but
>>> despite this she was also President of Congress party. She has
>>> contributed a lot to the Indian society and worked as if she was a
>>> hindu, & she wrote a book on Gita and several hundred of other
>>> books, including, upanishad, on Karma Theory etc. & ALSO WORK FOR THE
>>> EDUCATION OF CHILDREN.
>>>
>>> In 1890 a meeting of the international group of
>>> Theosophical Society was held at International headquarter ADYAR
>>> Chennai, where it was decided to work for the independence of India
>>> from the clutches of British Govt.
>>> The meeting was presided by Dr Annie Besent and Lord Hume
>>> ( who too was a britisher BUT WHOLE HEARTEDLY WORKED FOR FREEDOM OF
>>> INDIA), Dada Bhoy Naorozi and many others were present. May be that
>>> this was first meeting where role of Theosophical Society and the
>>> Congress party was assigned for freedom of our nation.
>>> Dr A.P. Sinnet, who too was a britisher and was Editor of
>>> Pioneer news paper, at Lucknow & had also played role for our
>>> country's freedom.
>>> SO I DO NOT WANT THAT THERE SHOULD BE A DEBATE ON REGION OF
>>> SONIA GANDHI.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/9/10, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> This is the first in a series of simple RTI challenges.
>>>> As the series progresses the challenge gets tougher.
>>>>
>>>> Recently the Punjab High Court disallowed a former IGP
>>>> from accessing Sonia's Gandhi's "religion" which she
>>>> had (supposedly) declared in her Census returns.
>>>> Disclosure of census data/ information is explicitly
>>>> barred in the Census Act.
>>>>
>>>> My RTI Challenge;
>>>> How to access Sonia Gandhi's "religion" using RTI ?
>>>>
>>>> Please post strategies to this thread. Then we shall
>>>> implement it in practice.
>>>>
>>>> NB: Please don't change the topic of this thread
>>>>
>>>> Sarbajit
>>>>
>>>
>>
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