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Tuesday, May 19, 2020

Re: [IAC#RG] Lockdown 4.0 : Incompetent relaxations designed to spread disease

Dear All,

May I suggest to all those who wish to praise or criticize the actions of Central/State Govts/Administrators to forget about the past and without bias, prejudice, and loss of time give your valuable suggestions either for or against the present state of Coronavirus in which we are today and suggest workable solutions , which will help in the following manners :-

a. Bring reduction in spread of the pandemic from now onwards.

b. What additional measures be adopted to reduce the death rate?

c. What are better ways to treat the effected persons?

c. How to stop the migrants from leaving there present places?

d. What additional arrangements are recommended to quicken the move of migrants in a smooth manner?

e. How to reduce the ill effects of this pandemic, so that the industry and agricultural production of the country is least effected?

f. How should the State and Central Govts cater for the additional expenses being incurred on all that is much needed?

g. What are those expenditures which the govts should avoid or reduce?

h. How should the govts proceed to open up the Lockdown, so that life can be brought to bear minimum to the normal, without compromising the threat of spreading Coronavirus, which is still not under control?

I. How can the society and people by large can be made more active participants in all that is needed by one and all including the govts, administrators, police, welfare organizations and the masses?

j. The poor labourers and others who have lost their jobs and earnings certainly need to be helped. What are the ways that you recommend?

k. What role should be played by the following and as to how ?

i) All political parties.

ii) NGOs.

iii) All voluntary organizations.

iv) All welfare societies and

organizations registered or unregi-

stored.

v) All RWAs.

vi) All group housing societies.

vii) All Armed Forces including Para-

military.

viii) All govt personnel not directly

engaged in the services being ren-

dered for this pandemic.

ix) All retired govt servants /civilians.

x) All able bodies i.e. men/women/

students/boys and girls.

xi) Add on other issues as you think

essential.

It's presently a state of emergency and should be declared in what ever way it needs to be and each and every citizen of India is expected to deliver as directed without questioning.

Jai Hind.

R.K.Khosla

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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Lockdown 4.0 : Incompetent relaxations designed to spread disease

Col. Guptaji, To encourage/appreciate/praise the mistake of announcing lockdown 1.0 without notice, without ensuring that migrant labourers will get their wages to stay put or allowed to return home, is beyond my comprehension. I have family members in with services. I have the utmost respect for the office of the PM. But, mistakes have to be acknowledged....and corrected.

Regards.

Dr. Rajan

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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Lockdown 4.0 : Incompetent relaxations designed to spread disease

What are you up to?

The man - Mr Modi - working 24 hrs only for the good of the nation has to be only encouraged/appreciated/praised.

What is your hidden agenda?

Whether America likes or not, but those who like America try to go & get settled there. Disgusting beyond limits???

Try your best. Good luck.

.B L G

On Mon 18 May, 2020, 3:15 AM ravi kapoor, <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

To all IAC-ians

Now that Central Govt. has thrown in the towel in the fight against COVID-19 and handed over the responsibility to the States, I can make the following SCIENTIFIC observations (see attached images at end of my email)

1. Mr. Modi has obviously realised that this virus is going to run for at least another 2 months and he has nothing new left to say. (Other members have already commented on how hollow and full of bombastic rhetoric his past 2 speeches have been).

2. Mr. Modi has also realised that its better to be like Rahul Gandhi and take potshots at opposition Governments from a distance for failing to control COVID-19 without taking responsibility.

3. That India's official (but rigged and downplayed) numbers have reached 5,000+ new infections per day (screen shot attached).

4. That our proprietary AI-driven indicators at IIM Ahmedabad show that the USA achieved its infection peak on 10-April-2020 and the number of daily infections is dropping daily there (albeit slowly) for the past 45 days. In India, the peak is still some time away (however, India's official statistics cannot be trusted and are downplayed, like China does, by a factor of at least 12 through systematic incentivization to downplay cases and deaths)

5. The recent Data driven research from the USA (New York) shows that there are 20 asymptomatic infections for every reported case. In New York, the most badly affected metro city of USA, rapid antibody tests there estimate that 20% of the population is infected. Similar (very confidential tests under NCDC using controversial Chinese rapid kits) mass tests carried out in Mumbai's slums of Dharavi, Antop Hill, Mohammed Ali Road, Lower Parel areas etc recently show that only 4% of the population is asymptomatic or has encountered the virus.This is disturbing because it shows India is very far away from the herd immunity levels of 65-70% infections needed.

CONCLUSION : The USA has adopted a strategic policy of ACCELERATING the spread of the virus and they could achieve "PEAK" transmission in only 22 days of Phase-2. In India despite 70 days of painful Lockdown we will not achieve PEAK. After 45 days of PEAK (on 10-April-2020) and with a sustained DECLINE in transmission rate the USA can consider easing up on (nominal) Lockdown restrictions and open their country up. On the other hand the RASCAL SCIENTIFICALLY ILLITERATE "PROSTITUTE" IAS officers in MHA and MoHFW are relaxing restrictions and opening up the Indian workplaces when the disease is at the early stages of the most dangerous and prolonged stage 3 and is ACCELERATING STEEPLY.

God save this country from such IAS fools in our Ministries. What "steel frame" is this IAS, when they are as weak as rubber bands ?

Ravi

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Re: [IAC#RG] Lockdown 4.0 : Incompetent relaxations designed to spread disease

Dear Mr Ravi Kapoor,

Request if you can avoid using such language "RASCAL SCIENTIFICALLY ILLITERATE "PROSTITUTE" IAS officers" and still make your point.

Regards

Narendra

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 3:15 AM ravi kapoor <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

To all IAC-ians

Now that Central Govt. has thrown in the towel in the fight against COVID-19 and handed over the responsibility to the States, I can make the following SCIENTIFIC observations (see attached images at end of my email)

1. Mr. Modi has obviously realised that this virus is going to run for at least another 2 months and he has nothing new left to say. (Other members have already commented on how hollow and full of bombastic rhetoric his past 2 speeches have been).

2. Mr. Modi has also realised that its better to be like Rahul Gandhi and take potshots at opposition Governments from a distance for failing to control COVID-19 without taking responsibility.

3. That India's official (but rigged and downplayed) numbers have reached 5,000+ new infections per day (screen shot attached).

4. That our proprietary AI-driven indicators at IIM Ahmedabad show that the USA achieved its infection peak on 10-April-2020 and the number of daily infections is dropping daily there (albeit slowly) for the past 45 days. In India, the peak is still some time away (however, India's official statistics cannot be trusted and are downplayed, like China does, by a factor of at least 12 through systematic incentivization to downplay cases and deaths)

5. The recent Data driven research from the USA (New York) shows that there are 20 asymptomatic infections for every reported case. In New York, the most badly affected metro city of USA, rapid antibody tests there estimate that 20% of the population is infected. Similar (very confidential tests under NCDC using controversial Chinese rapid kits) mass tests carried out in Mumbai's slums of Dharavi, Antop Hill, Mohammed Ali Road, Lower Parel areas etc recently show that only 4% of the population is asymptomatic or has encountered the virus.This is disturbing because it shows India is very far away from the herd immunity levels of 65-70% infections needed.

CONCLUSION : The USA has adopted a strategic policy of ACCELERATING the spread of the virus and they could achieve "PEAK" transmission in only 22 days of Phase-2. In India despite 70 days of painful Lockdown we will not achieve PEAK. After 45 days of PEAK (on 10-April-2020) and with a sustained DECLINE in transmission rate the USA can consider easing up on (nominal) Lockdown restrictions and open their country up. On the other hand the RASCAL SCIENTIFICALLY ILLITERATE "PROSTITUTE" IAS officers in MHA and MoHFW are relaxing restrictions and opening up the Indian workplaces when the disease is at the early stages of the most dangerous and prolonged stage 3 and is ACCELERATING STEEPLY.

God save this country from such IAS fools in our Ministries. What "steel frame" is this IAS, when they are as weak as rubber bands ?

Ravi

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Thanks & Regards
Narendra Talwar

Monday, May 18, 2020

Re: [IAC#RG] Lockdown 4.0 : Incompetent relaxations designed to spread disease

Dear Dr. Rajan

It is futile to reason with people who have blinkered / closed minds. Our Amymen especially are

trained to get on with it and not think twice about it. They are conditioned (like little Pavlovian dogs)

to be unquestioning in carrying out orders and to have respect for the wisdom of higher / competent

authority who are seeing the big picture back at HQ even if it diverges wildly from the ground reality.

Unfortunately what Col Gupta forgets, is that this slavish approach is exactly what happened in 1962

when due to the great neglect of our great armed forces our warriors on the ground were martyred

by poor logistics and supplies, the complete lack of planning and absolutely incompetent leadership. Like

all great generalists they were busy planning for the last war buying Rafale jets and US helicopters

when they should have been building hospitals and installing infrastructure.

Our present Home Secretary, Mr. Ajay Kumar Bhalla, IAS is no less incompetent today than Gen B.M. Kaul was

back in 1962. What Ravi is capturing in his graphs only reflects the great incompetence back in North Block

where all they do is hold meetings with their made-in-China wide screen LED TV screens and virtual

reality games where streams of migrants are nothing but disembodied sprites out of PUB-G or GrandTheftAuto.

The parallels today with 1962 are uncanny. We have a charismatic leader who understands nothing of the science

of war, who is prone to being a "one man Rambo army" (thanks "Jatin"), who is trapped in an echo chamber of praise

from a Greek chorus of "bhakts" and who relies on some of the most venal and incompetent people to give him information.

In simple language, the BJP is as rotten and as ideologically bankrupt as its predecessor Congress Party was in 1962.

This has resulted in this horrific situation where our frontline "warriors" had once again to "make do" with improvised

weapons against the adversary.

That Mr. Modi is personally corrupt is clear from this latest SCANDAL of Rs. 2,000 crores for ventilators being placed

on his cronies.It is a repeat of the RAFALE scam where he bailed out a virtually bankrupt Anil Ambani. It is an open secret

that the bulk of this mythical 20 lakh crores is going to be used to bail out all Modi's bankrupt cronies who drove our

PSU banks to ruin. How much of it is being round-tripped into Mukesh Ambani's rights issue is something which remains

to be seen.

FYI, I am expecting some time-bound replies from Mr.Modi's IAS officers very soon to some pointed queries and complaints

I have made directed at certain corrupt IAS officers. Mr. Modi's repeated unwillingness to take action against these corrupt

IAS officers clearly establishes to me that they are acting for him and with his blessings. It is cause for concern when honest

and upright IAS officers get shunted aside at the ACC which Mr. Modi presides over so that venal ones get core posts. The

tragedy today is that we are faced with great incompetence and grave corruption in our Central Govt.

Sarbajit

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 5:05 AM m.g.r. rajan <mgr_rajan@hotmail.com> wrote:

Col. Guptaji, To encourage/appreciate/praise the mistake of announcing lockdown 1.0 without notice, without ensuring that migrant labourers will get their wages to stay put or allowed to return home, is beyond my comprehension. I have family members in with services. I have the utmost respect for the office of the PM. But, mistakes have to be acknowledged....and corrected.

Regards.

Dr. Rajan

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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Lockdown 4.0 : Incompetent relaxations designed to spread disease

What are you up to?
The man - Mr Modi - working 24 hrs only for the good of the nation has to be only encouraged/appreciated/praised.

What is your hidden agenda?

Whether America likes or not, but those who like America try to go & get settled there. Disgusting beyond limits???

Try your best. Good luck.

.B L G

On Mon 18 May, 2020, 3:15 AM ravi kapoor, <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

To all IAC-ians

Now that Central Govt. has thrown in the towel in the fight against COVID-19 and handed over the responsibility to the States, I can make the following SCIENTIFIC observations (see attached images at end of my email)

1. Mr. Modi has obviously realised that this virus is going to run for at least another 2 months and he has nothing new left to say. (Other members have already commented on how hollow and full of bombastic rhetoric his past 2 speeches have been).

2. Mr. Modi has also realised that its better to be like Rahul Gandhi and take potshots at opposition Governments from a distance for failing to control COVID-19 without taking responsibility.

3. That India's official (but rigged and downplayed) numbers have reached 5,000+ new infections per day (screen shot attached).

4. That our proprietary AI-driven indicators at IIM Ahmedabad show that the USA achieved its infection peak on 10-April-2020 and the number of daily infections is dropping daily there (albeit slowly) for the past 45 days. In India, the peak is still some time away (however, India's official statistics cannot be trusted and are downplayed, like China does, by a factor of at least 12 through systematic incentivization to downplay cases and deaths)

5. The recent Data driven research from the USA (New York) shows that there are 20 asymptomatic infections for every reported case. In New York, the most badly affected metro city of USA, rapid antibody tests there estimate that 20% of the population is infected. Similar (very confidential tests under NCDC using controversial Chinese rapid kits) mass tests carried out in Mumbai's slums of Dharavi, Antop Hill, Mohammed Ali Road, Lower Parel areas etc recently show that only 4% of the population is asymptomatic or has encountered the virus.This is disturbing because it shows India is very far away from the herd immunity levels of 65-70% infections needed.

CONCLUSION : The USA has adopted a strategic policy of ACCELERATING the spread of the virus and they could achieve "PEAK" transmission in only 22 days of Phase-2. In India despite 70 days of painful Lockdown we will not achieve PEAK. After 45 days of PEAK (on 10-April-2020) and with a sustained DECLINE in transmission rate the USA can consider easing up on (nominal) Lockdown restrictions and open their country up. On the other hand the RASCAL SCIENTIFICALLY ILLITERATE "PROSTITUTE" IAS officers in MHA and MoHFW are relaxing restrictions and opening up the Indian workplaces when the disease is at the early stages of the most dangerous and prolonged stage 3 and is ACCELERATING STEEPLY.

God save this country from such IAS fools in our Ministries. What "steel frame" is this IAS, when they are as weak as rubber bands ?

Ravi

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Re: [IAC#RG] Lockdown 4.0 : Incompetent relaxations designed to spread disease

Regards.

Dr. Rajan

What are you up to?

The man - Mr Modi - working 24 hrs only for the good of the nation has to be only encouraged/appreciated/praised.

What is your hidden agenda?

Whether America likes or not, but those who like America try to go & get settled there. Disgusting beyond limits???

Try your best. Good luck.

.B L G

On Mon 18 May, 2020, 3:15 AM ravi kapoor, <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

To all IAC-ians

Now that Central Govt. has thrown in the towel in the fight against COVID-19 and handed over the responsibility to the States, I can make the following SCIENTIFIC observations (see attached images at end of my email)

1. Mr. Modi has obviously realised that this virus is going to run for at least another 2 months and he has nothing new left to say. (Other members have already commented on how hollow and full of bombastic rhetoric his past 2 speeches have been).

2. Mr. Modi has also realised that its better to be like Rahul Gandhi and take potshots at opposition Governments from a distance for failing to control COVID-19 without taking responsibility.

3. That India's official (but rigged and downplayed) numbers have reached 5,000+ new infections per day (screen shot attached).

4. That our proprietary AI-driven indicators at IIM Ahmedabad show that the USA achieved its infection peak on 10-April-2020 and the number of daily infections is dropping daily there (albeit slowly) for the past 45 days. In India, the peak is still some time away (however, India's official statistics cannot be trusted and are downplayed, like China does, by a factor of at least 12 through systematic incentivization to downplay cases and deaths)

5. The recent Data driven research from the USA (New York) shows that there are 20 asymptomatic infections for every reported case. In New York, the most badly affected metro city of USA, rapid antibody tests there estimate that 20% of the population is infected. Similar (very confidential tests under NCDC using controversial Chinese rapid kits) mass tests carried out in Mumbai's slums of Dharavi, Antop Hill, Mohammed Ali Road, Lower Parel areas etc recently show that only 4% of the population is asymptomatic or has encountered the virus.This is disturbing because it shows India is very far away from the herd immunity levels of 65-70% infections needed.

CONCLUSION : The USA has adopted a strategic policy of ACCELERATING the spread of the virus and they could achieve "PEAK" transmission in only 22 days of Phase-2. In India despite 70 days of painful Lockdown we will not achieve PEAK. After 45 days of PEAK (on 10-April-2020) and with a sustained DECLINE in transmission rate the USA can consider easing up on (nominal) Lockdown restrictions and open their country up. On the other hand the RASCAL SCIENTIFICALLY ILLITERATE "PROSTITUTE" IAS officers in MHA and MoHFW are relaxing restrictions and opening up the Indian workplaces when the disease is at the early stages of the most dangerous and prolonged stage 3 and is ACCELERATING STEEPLY.

God save this country from such IAS fools in our Ministries. What "steel frame" is this IAS, when they are as weak as rubber bands ?

Ravi

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Re: [IAC#RG] Lockdown 4.0 : Incompetent relaxations designed to spread disease

Hello Gupta

There is no much difference between bigots who can only shout 'Allah hu Akbar' or 'Modi hu Akbar' when they don't have anything else to say.

If you miss it the email from Shriman Ravi was about corupt prostittute IAS officer who are mislead overworked senior citizen one-man Rambo army Mr Modi into making wrong decisions.

Simply because you cannt find mistake with the graphs and statistics by Ravi Sir, it must not mean that you can start questioning motives of co-members and start demanding they to go Amrika or to Pakistan.

Also Gupta why you don't go to Baniastan (West Gujarat) and stay there permanently ? Hindustan is not your country because you are a unHindu Bania or Teli/OBC.

Bagha Jatin

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 10:52 PM "Col. BL Gupta" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

What are you up to?
The man - Mr Modi - working 24 hrs only for the good of the nation has to be only encouraged/appreciated/praised.
What is your hidden agenda?
Whether America likes or not, but those who like America try to go & get settled there. Disgusting beyond limits???
Try your best. Good luck.
.B L G

On Mon 18 May, 2020, 3:15 AM ravi kapoor, <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
To all IAC-ians

Now that Central Govt. has thrown in the towel in the fight against COVID-19 and handed over the responsibility to the States, I can make the following SCIENTIFIC observations (see attached images at end of my email)

1. Mr. Modi has obviously realised that this virus is going to run for at least another 2 months and he has nothing new left to say. (Other members have already commented on how hollow and full of bombastic rhetoric his past 2 speeches have been).

2. Mr. Modi has also realised that its better to be like Rahul Gandhi and take potshots at opposition Governments from a distance for failing to control COVID-19 without taking responsibility.

3. That India's official (but rigged and downplayed) numbers have reached 5,000+ new infections per day (screen shot attached).

4. That our proprietary AI-driven indicators at IIM Ahmedabad show that the USA achieved its infection peak on 10-April-2020 and the number of daily infections is dropping daily there (albeit slowly) for the past 45 days. In India, the peak is still some time away (however, India's official statistics cannot be trusted and are downplayed, like China does, by a factor of at least 12 through systematic incentivization to downplay cases and deaths)

5. The recent Data driven research from the USA (New York) shows that there are 20 asymptomatic infections for every reported case. In New York, the most badly affected metro city of USA, rapid antibody tests there estimate that 20% of the population is infected. Similar (very confidential tests under NCDC using controversial Chinese rapid kits) mass tests carried out in Mumbai's slums of Dharavi, Antop Hill, Mohammed Ali Road, Lower Parel areas etc recently show that only 4% of the population is asymptomatic or has encountered the virus.This is disturbing because it shows India is very far away from the herd immunity levels of 65-70% infections needed.

CONCLUSION : The USA has adopted a strategic policy of ACCELERATING the spread of the virus and they could achieve "PEAK" transmission in only 22 days of Phase-2. In India despite 70 days of painful Lockdown we will not achieve PEAK. After 45 days of PEAK (on 10-April-2020) and with a sustained DECLINE in transmission rate the USA can consider easing up on (nominal) Lockdown restrictions and open their country up. On the other hand the RASCAL SCIENTIFICALLY ILLITERATE "PROSTITUTE" IAS officers in MHA and MoHFW are relaxing restrictions and opening up the Indian workplaces when the disease is at the early stages of the most dangerous and prolonged stage 3 and is ACCELERATING STEEPLY.

God save this country from such IAS fools in our Ministries. What "steel frame" is this IAS, when they are as weak as rubber bands ?

Ravi

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Re: [IAC#RG] Lockdown 4.0 : Incompetent relaxations designed to spread disease

What are you up to?

The man - Mr Modi - working 24 hrs only for the good of the nation has to be only encouraged/appreciated/praised.

What is your hidden agenda?

Whether America likes or not, but those who like America try to go & get settled there. Disgusting beyond limits???

Try your best. Good luck.

.B L G

On Mon 18 May, 2020, 3:15 AM ravi kapoor, <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

To all IAC-ians

Now that Central Govt. has thrown in the towel in the fight against COVID-19 and handed over the responsibility to the States, I can make the following SCIENTIFIC observations (see attached images at end of my email)

1. Mr. Modi has obviously realised that this virus is going to run for at least another 2 months and he has nothing new left to say. (Other members have already commented on how hollow and full of bombastic rhetoric his past 2 speeches have been).

2. Mr. Modi has also realised that its better to be like Rahul Gandhi and take potshots at opposition Governments from a distance for failing to control COVID-19 without taking responsibility.

3. That India's official (but rigged and downplayed) numbers have reached 5,000+ new infections per day (screen shot attached).

4. That our proprietary AI-driven indicators at IIM Ahmedabad show that the USA achieved its infection peak on 10-April-2020 and the number of daily infections is dropping daily there (albeit slowly) for the past 45 days. In India, the peak is still some time away (however, India's official statistics cannot be trusted and are downplayed, like China does, by a factor of at least 12 through systematic incentivization to downplay cases and deaths)

5. The recent Data driven research from the USA (New York) shows that there are 20 asymptomatic infections for every reported case. In New York, the most badly affected metro city of USA, rapid antibody tests there estimate that 20% of the population is infected. Similar (very confidential tests under NCDC using controversial Chinese rapid kits) mass tests carried out in Mumbai's slums of Dharavi, Antop Hill, Mohammed Ali Road, Lower Parel areas etc recently show that only 4% of the population is asymptomatic or has encountered the virus.This is disturbing because it shows India is very far away from the herd immunity levels of 65-70% infections needed.

CONCLUSION : The USA has adopted a strategic policy of ACCELERATING the spread of the virus and they could achieve "PEAK" transmission in only 22 days of Phase-2. In India despite 70 days of painful Lockdown we will not achieve PEAK. After 45 days of PEAK (on 10-April-2020) and with a sustained DECLINE in transmission rate the USA can consider easing up on (nominal) Lockdown restrictions and open their country up. On the other hand the RASCAL SCIENTIFICALLY ILLITERATE "PROSTITUTE" IAS officers in MHA and MoHFW are relaxing restrictions and opening up the Indian workplaces when the disease is at the early stages of the most dangerous and prolonged stage 3 and is ACCELERATING STEEPLY.

God save this country from such IAS fools in our Ministries. What "steel frame" is this IAS, when they are as weak as rubber bands ?

Ravi

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Sunday, May 17, 2020

[IAC#RG] Lockdown 4.0 : Incompetent relaxations designed to spread disease

To all IAC-ians

Now that Central Govt. has thrown in the towel in the fight against COVID-19 and handed over the responsibility to the States, I can make the following SCIENTIFIC observations (see attached images at end of my email)

1. Mr. Modi has obviously realised that this virus is going to run for at least another 2 months and he has nothing new left to say. (Other members have already commented on how hollow and full of bombastic rhetoric his past 2 speeches have been).

2. Mr. Modi has also realised that its better to be like Rahul Gandhi and take potshots at opposition Governments from a distance for failing to control COVID-19 without taking responsibility.

3. That India's official (but rigged and downplayed) numbers have reached 5,000+ new infections per day (screen shot attached).

4. That our proprietary AI-driven indicators at IIM Ahmedabad show that the USA achieved its infection peak on 10-April-2020 and the number of daily infections is dropping daily there (albeit slowly) for the past 45 days. In India, the peak is still some time away (however, India's official statistics cannot be trusted and are downplayed, like China does, by a factor of at least 12 through systematic incentivization to downplay cases and deaths)

5. The recent Data driven research from the USA (New York) shows that there are 20 asymptomatic infections for every reported case. In New York, the most badly affected metro city of USA, rapid antibody tests there estimate that 20% of the population is infected. Similar (very confidential tests under NCDC using controversial Chinese rapid kits) mass tests carried out in Mumbai's slums of Dharavi, Antop Hill, Mohammed Ali Road, Lower Parel areas etc recently show that only 4% of the population is asymptomatic or has encountered the virus.This is disturbing because it shows India is very far away from the herd immunity levels of 65-70% infections needed.

CONCLUSION : The USA has adopted a strategic policy of ACCELERATING the spread of the virus and they could achieve "PEAK" transmission in only 22 days of Phase-2. In India despite 70 days of painful Lockdown we will not achieve PEAK. After 45 days of PEAK (on 10-April-2020) and with a sustained DECLINE in transmission rate the USA can consider easing up on (nominal) Lockdown restrictions and open their country up. On the other hand the RASCAL SCIENTIFICALLY ILLITERATE "PROSTITUTE" IAS officers in MHA and MoHFW are relaxing restrictions and opening up the Indian workplaces when the disease is at the early stages of the most dangerous and prolonged stage 3 and is ACCELERATING STEEPLY.

God save this country from such IAS fools in our Ministries. What "steel frame" is this IAS, when they are as weak as rubber bands ?

Ravi

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Re: [IAC#RG] Popularity

Dear Prof Natarajan

I have no idea what your domain of expertise is or as regards your claim to an academic title.

It would help if I knew about your published work so that I could better appreciate the advice you are signalling to me.

BTW, I have no desire for popularity of any kind. I am normally an intensely private person wrapped in my academic and research and I hardly post on such mailing lists dispute being an IAC subscriber since 2008.

with best wishes

Ravi

On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 9:03 PM Natarajan <natarajan218@yahoo.com> wrote:

The virtues and toxicities of popularity

There is a saying in Tamil that too much of anything is harmful. Even nectar turns poisonous beyond a point. Perhaps popularity falls under the category.

Our daily experience shows that this applies to most good things of life. When a child badly wants a toy, he is in ecstasy when he gets it. But after playing with it for a while very he loses interest in it and throws it away. A person with a sweet tooth enjoys a delicacy up to a certain quantity. Beyond that he doesn't wish to consume any more of it. I call it the Limit Theory (there is actually such a theory based on which Engineering Structures are designed), or in business parlance, what the traffic will bear. Of course, there are exceptions. My daughter never lost her interest in her family of dolls. She had a name for each of them and never discarded a single doll when a new one was bought. Now and then her dolls received some corporal punishment. Sometimes a limb or ear went missing, and occasionally it was beheaded, but the doll never left the family. At some point in time the missing part was restored and the torn dress was repaired or renewed.

Popularity is something we all seek secretly or publicly. It is a common weakness. Very rarely have I come across a person who does not love popularity. Many of them also mistake plain flattery for popularity. Some of them of course try to impress others by declaring that they don't care for popularity. Some bosses specially do. It may not show on their faces but secretly they enjoy it. Junior colleagues compete to lay it thick in the presence of the boss and have a good laugh when he leaves the scene. This behaviour is cultivated when at school. In the continual rating system, a teacher has tremendous discretion. The students do not waste a moment in humouring him for a few more marks. I had a Professor who was known for being soft and good-natured. He never chided us. We thought that he would be an easy prey to flattery. When we tried to try our skill on him, he simply removed his hearing aid to deliver us a lesson in good behaviour. We gave up.

Popularity is not a dirty word. We all need a dose of it for motivation. It feels good. To that extent it is certainly a virtue. But it should be the result of our genuine behaviour or action. To act for the sake of cheap popularity would be a mistake. That is a temptation one must avoid. We need to be bold enough to call a spade a shovel. Never mind if someone thinks you are not being polite. A foul language must be avoided, but there are ways of making your mind known in a subtle way.

Seeking popularity for its own sake, ignoring the ground realities is a behaviour we exhibit now and then. I must confess that I have been occasionally guilty of such conduct. I simply get carried away, and make promises beyond my competence. I suppose it is just a heady behaviour in excitement blinded by an illusion of omnipotence. Very soon the monumental folly is exposed with loss of face and retraction. Why does this happen? It is toxicity. Such behaviour can be explained away when one has imbibed an overdose of the hard stuff and become intoxicated. However, it is difficult to imagine that a tea-totaller can exhibit the same behaviour, unless toxicity of popularity has induced him to act in that manner.

Conclusion: Popularity is a virtue, but don't go on an overdrive.

N. Natarajan
With regards
Prof N.Natarajan