Re: [IAC#RG] Italian Marines a corruption issue

2 Italians could vote from Italian Embassey in Delhi and there was no
need for them to go back to Italy. Supreme Court knowingly allowed
them to leave India based on wrong affidavit. Supreme Court is not
holy cow..

On 3/17/13, Manmohan Kumar <nrisoldierleague@gmail.com> wrote:
> As if they are not already taking advantage.
>
> Manmohan
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Trishool <lalhgehi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> If we don't kick ass of Italy now, be ready, for the world to run over
>> India.
>> China and Pakistan will be the first to take advantage of weak, timid,
>> submissive, India..... !!
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>> *To:* indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:59 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [IAC#RG] Italian Marines a corruption issue
>>
>> Sir
>>
>> 1) If the Govt of Italy does not return its marines on 22.03.2013 and
>> treats it as a bilateral dispute then we are in a state of war, whether
>> formally declared or not.
>>
>> 2) For a person to be treated as an enemy alien, it is not needed for
>> war
>> to be formally declared. Even persons with acquired citizenship are
>> treated
>> as enemy aliens (for eg. the WW-II Japanese Americans in 1942) . India
>> also
>> has a long history of this, in the 1962 war Indian citizens of Chinese
>> origin were treated as enemy aliens and interned. In our wars with
>> Pakistan, Muslims were always viewed with great suspicion (rightly or
>> wrongly is not the issue).
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_alien
>>
>> 3) If Italy fails to return the marines, then Ms. Sonia Gandhi's NAC
>> Chairperson position, as an Italian born naturalised Indian who has never
>> publicly clarified if she has formally given up her Italian citizenship /
>> passport, will become quite untenable.
>>
>> 4) IAC has specific information that the marines were going to do the
>> bunk
>> in December itself. But the above mentioned points came in the way. Hence
>> the marines were reluctantly returned to India, Rahul Gandhi was hastily
>> made #2 in the Congress party, some blood money provision was made in the
>> SC to keep the foolish Indian public quiet, and the marines were allowed
>> to
>> slip away again. Sonia herself will slip away for "medical treatment"
>> very
>> soon (and the NAC will be disbanded). At least that is the present plan
>> obtained from IAC''s reliable sources.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 10:49 PM, <devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> With regard to Item G, whatever be the outcome of the case with the
>> Italian government. It would be foolish to suggest that Mrs Gandhi and
>> her
>> family be treated as the enemies of India as they have no direct or
>> indirect involvement in the case. Moreover, as citizens of India they
>> have
>> all the rights and protection in law as any other Indian.subject,
>> .notwithstanding the Italian origin of Mrs S Gandhi and the IAC should
>> bear this in mind. Devinder .
>>
>> *From:* Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>> *To:* indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 16 March 2013, 16:03
>> *Subject:* [IAC#RG] Italian Marines a corruption issue
>>
>> Dear IAC members
>>
>> After reading the 100's of emails (especially the unpublished ones) on
>> the
>> subject issue when linked with Smt. Sonia Gandhi's possible dual
>> nationality it is abundantly clear that the consolidated views of the
>> members are as follows:-
>>
>> *A*) That IAC should treat the issue in a national way instead of as
>> political issue to score brownie points
>>
>> *B*) That it is a matter of grave national concern if the Italian marines
>> were allowed to leave the country with the full knowledge of the Chief
>> Justice of India knowing that they were unlikely to return, and for which
>> a
>> security was taken.
>>
>> *C*) That this is another scandal, like the Bhopal Gas settlement, if the
>> Supreme Court, has again facilitated foreign murderers getting away after
>> heavy bribes are paid to the Congress party (and/or its "dual
>> citizenship"
>> President) to allow them to escape. The "blood money" is no substitute
>> for
>> justice.
>>
>> *D*) That this sordid episode reeks of JUDICIAL CORRUPTION and it is
>> nothing but a corruption issue considering that the offenders were in
>> India's judicial custody (albeit enjoying extraordinary privileges and 5
>> star comfort) and the tables have been turned on the Congress led State
>> Government of Kerala which arrested the marines in the first place and
>> had their notional custody. The Chief Justice of India Mr. Altamas
>> Kabirshould immediately resign.
>>
>> *E*) That the members want IAC to coordinate with all other like minded
>> forces on this issue.
>>
>> *F*) That on Sonia Gandhi's dual nationality question IAC should proceed
>> cautiously to ensure that IAC does not end up with egg on its face in
>> case Mrs. Gandhi has actually renounced her Italian citizenship. However,
>> if she has not done so then it is equally a corruption issue which needs
>> to
>> be vigorously pursued.
>>
>> *G*) That if no resolution emerges on the Marines issue by 22 March 2013,
>> then irrespective of the subsequent orders of the Court, India should
>> consider itself at being in a state of war with Italy and that
>> naturalised
>> Indians of Italian origin like Ms. Sonia Gandhi and her family be deemed
>> as
>> enemy aliens and treated as such.
>>
>> *H*) That Mr. Harish Salve's integrity and honesty is directly in
>> question if he tendered the guarantees on behalf of his client.
>>
>> Since the views of the members have been aggregated as above, if anyone
>> wishes them to be modified/amended before they are formally adopted
>> please
>> post short and crisp responses/objections/suggestions to this list and we
>> will try and publish as many as possible, otherwise the above points
>> shall
>> be deemed as adopted.
>>
>> *Sarbajit*
>>
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