Dear Sharmaji
Your comments about indian business community are extremely biased. I beleive you hardly know what's a "BUSINESSMAN". A Businessman pays Exise Duty, VAT, Service Tax, Income Tax for the national development. To be a businessman is no joke. Yes, integrity is the key word. Anyway our present topic is not business or businessman.
I must mention that I am aware of the efforts of Chitra Subramaniam and N. Ram. We can not underestmate their effort. But before Baba Ram Dev brought the issue through TV, how many people were aware of Chitra nad Ram's effort. Today even a small child asks questions about Black Money.
I also feel that IAC should not use its paltform to use derogatory remarks (scoudrels) about an individual or a particular community (BUSINESS COMMUNITY). Baba Ramdev does not need Dalaals. His name itself is sufficient to get his job done. Though I personally do not know which land he has got at throw away rates, but I understand that, since there is provision to allot the land for specific purposes at cheaper rates, he probably got under the provisions. Otherwise, the Congress Goverment would have finished him by now. He has got guts to confront and survive.
Please understand and appreciate that unless you are strong professionally and fiancially, you can not make your presence felt at national level. He is a great professional, he speaks well and over a period he has made himself financially strong.
We all feel that GOOD persons or groups should join hands and fight against foreigners. No two persons will have same ideograph. But for a common goal such differences can be side tracked and proceed forward with killing instinct.
Best wishes.
SK Chadda
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:55 PM, S.D. Sharma <anonsharma@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Chadda
You ask what wrong Baba Ramdev has done ?
It would take at least 3 encyclopedias to fill all his misdeeds. But, IAC platforms should not be waste on scoundrels like Baba Ramdev.
His preparations are cheaper because he evades paying taxes. In 2004 his turnover was at least 30 crores. He only declared sales of Rs. 6.73 lakhs and paid tax of Rs. 50,000/-. After he was raided many times that year, he pulled strings to show the sales of Rs. 5 crores to Special Investigation Team headed by Rana and even on that the tax was not paid. His trust finds it cheaper to litigate the cases and bribe the officers and politicians instead of paying taxes. Baba Ramdev is no different from Ambanis and every other Indian BUSINESSMAN.
With all this black money, he is buying and devloping land which is usually given to him at throwaway prices or registered at circle rates. How he has risen from zero to Rs. 10,000+ crore hero in 10 years is not possible unless he is front for somebody and paying of everyone in government. Now that Congress is in power, he is trying to cut some deals to carry on his business and there is no shortage of dalaals offering to help him place his money.
You know nothing if you claim Baba Ramdev is first to raise issue of black funds in Swiss banks. What were Chitra Subramaniam and N.Ram doing for Lotus and Quattrochi in Bofors deal ?
You can read these articles, it may help you.
http://archive.tehelka.com/story_main52.asp?filename=Ws190312Black_money.asp
http://archive.tehelka.com/story_main49.asp?filename=Ne180611Coverstory2.asp
S D Sharma
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:43 PM, SK Chadda <chaddask@gmail.com> wrote:What wrong Baba Ramdev has done? He has brought awareness to a common man and made people think and practice Yoga. The ayurvedic medicines from Patanjali cost almost half the price as compared to giants like Dabur. It is not possible in our country to even exist after confronting with the Congress Government. He surviving gracefully even after making so much of money and owning properties. Why should sonmeone be jealous of his ambitions and hard earned money. If he had used unlawful ways to earn money, do you think this Government would have been keeping quite for so long.He is first person to to have courage to speak out about black money lying in Swiss banks.S KumarOn Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:59 PM, govindan menon <tcgmenon@hotmail.com> wrote:
Baba Ramdev is a patriotic sanyasi, who is an asset for the whole world. Not Agnivesh,who is a commie.
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:46:18 +0530
From: rbpurohit4productivity@gmail.comIts true.
Indian nation was built by religious leaders like Shankaracharya and others.
I don't feel Baba comes under that category.
On 11-Mar-2013 12:40 AM, "Anamika R" <anamikaiac@gmail.com> wrote:
If personalities like Baba Ramdev and Swami Agnivesh seek attention, it is really their choice.But such initiatives must push us to address macro level issues like -a) barring exceptions, are religious leaders equipped to handle anti-corruption movementsb) should religion be used as a handle to leverage a nation building activityc) will anti-corruption movements remain opinions on paper or remain localised, due to lack of non-partisan, patriotic, committed visionaries who can lead from the frontSent from my iPadSir
The main worry committed Bhartiya's now have is "Is Ramdev another Agnivesh ?"
This is no easy answer to this question. Agnivesh at his best had only grabbed a few prime Arya Samaj properties, generated a fake Arya Samaj, acted as a spokesperson / go-between for LWEs, floated a few NGOs to harass industrialists in Haryana and infiltrated various social movements which were only too happy to have him.
In other words, small change compared to Ramdev, who himself was an Sangh plant to keep tabs on Agnivesh and the Congress.
Both these religious leaders together ensured that the anti-corruption movement which was to have started after the CommonWealth Games 2010 failed to take off. The BJP had its own set of mafias which profited hugely from the games, and it was in the interests of both the Congress and BJP to scuttle any effective actions into the scams. They achieved it easily through Agnivesh and Ramdev. The entire 10 member LokPal drafting Committee was a convenient mutual benefit society for Congress and BJP to ensure that nothing got done.
Another tip-off was the involvement of Maulana Masood Madni and Arch Bishop Vincent Concessao in the 2010 post Games protests. After Agnivesh had been exposed as a Congress plant the Maulana was busy audio-recording proceedings of IAC's meetings. In short, the entire religious machinery was used as spies and infiltrators to ensure that the mafias got away with the loot. It is a psychological thing that average human beings are instinctively programmed to "respect" religious figures and not question them too much.
Paraphrasing what somebody had mentioned in context of Orwell and Gandhi -
Can we really trust ANY religious leader to be part of an anti-corruption movement ?
NOT AT ALL !!!
Sarbajit
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:51 PM, <devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com> wrote:
Baba Ram Dev might not be me nor does he need my advice but be assured that he does not need all the lip service and empty posturing by the saffron crowd either as it has brought nothing for him but misery. although not exactly in the same way as it has done in the case of Sandhiv Pragya Singh Thakur.. a feisty young woman who fell for the saffron ideology and has paid a heavy price for a photo opportunity with the big wigs of the BJP and was seen in the picture sitting right behind Sh. Raj Nath Singh and is now rotting in Jail, suffering from breast cancer, can't even get bail which is her right.but has been denied. Here father who has recently died had told the press that let the law take its course.and the course of law has become a bit too long for any one's liking. and a good woman is being wasted in jail.As far as one knows, no one senior from the BJP visited her. The only person who went to see her in prison was none other than good old Baba Ram Dev. So Jai Ho Baba Ram Dev Ji.Ki. Devinder Thakur.
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