From: Sainik Sangh <gs@sainiksangh.org> Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Baba Ramdev to communalise politics Date: Friday, 15 March, 2013, 11:39 AM Let's not blame McCaulay or any It is the instinct of taking advantage of the moment for convenience , an eye on profits from any enterprise that a Hindu undertakes that has been his bane down history lane . This greed and lust for wealth is embedded in Hindu lifestyle which makes him soft self indulgent and slippery -courtesy BAHMANISM- OUR CUTOMS, TEMPLE RITUAL S , IDOLS THE SELF THAT IS CENTRIC IN LIFE NOT THE COMMUNITY OR TRIBE, NEITHERT PRINCIPLES . A SIMPLE e.g. A general suddenly realizes he can get another year of prestige and perks and so TAKES U TURN engaging with his DOB abandoning his duty! at what cost? And people at large accept this as a justification? What are the standards and codes of conduct that can distinguish a Hindu as we can many – we would know how German or JAPANESE would react to a situation – not the Hindu unpredictable for this very reason ! Well were McCauley to be in China the Chinese would learn every bit of his language and all that it can give use it to the best advantage of China and Chinese ! Let get out of blame game and do self examination reduce hunger for power and greed . There is much that needs to be done as we ever evaded real solutions which do not come without struggle –not the satygrah style but honest will to change. THANK YOU Chauhan Maj gen
From: vasant sardesai [mailto:vasant_sardesai@yahoo.co.in] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 10:24 AM Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Baba Ramdev to communalise politics
You are right; but we should also ponder as to why such a thing happened to India;I think the only reason is McCauley's educational policy which has imbibed in Indians especially the Hindus, the slavish mentality which has changed the social ideology making money as everything, the God. This will have to be changed.Unless we remove the slavish mentality of the people by changing the ideology and bringing self-confidence andnational charecter, no one will be able toimprove the coditions of Indians.
V.S.Sardesai
--- On Fri, 15/3/13, Prem Sabhlok <psabhlok@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Prem Sabhlok <psabhlok@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Baba Ramdev to communalise politics Date: Friday, 15 March, 2013, 5:40 AM
Congress exploited mahatma Gandhi name with a specific purpose of remaining in power. The Gandhian concepts of Politics as the noblest Endeavour, Self rule (Swaraj), minimum role for the state and many other Gandhian thoughts were thrown in the dustbin. Result was criminalisation in politics, pseudo secularism, state becoming Leviathan, killing the self rule institutions, making steel frame of Bureaucracy as rusted brittle steel frame, era of corruption and scams and endless other social, moral and political evils. The worst was when a defeated Member of Parliament in election from Delhi was nominated as Prime Minister by a dynastic rule because no elected MP i.e. Peoples representative was found fit for the purpose. It was a clear case of the murder of Indian democracy. The entire world must be laughing about the peculiar Indian concept of Democracy. Anna Hazare, Baba Ram Dev, Jaya Prakash of Lok Satta, FTI Team, AAM Party and many others are now reviving Corruption free governance, Self rule (Swaraj), Politics as the noblest Endeavour and genuine democracy. Unfortunately Anna Hazare movement has been hijacked by some people with vested intersets. Now only great hope is in Baba Ramdev's selfless movement and others like Lok Satta, Fredom Team of India (FTI) led by Shantanu (Ex I.F.S ) and others). Baba Ramdev is not communalising politics but making it as the noblest endeavour as without noble politics good governance is not possible. Prem Sabhlok
From: gs@sainiksangh.org To: kumar_8134@yahoo.com; rvizhakat@yahoo.com; indiaresists@lists.riseup.net; thakursinghk@gmail.com; media_monitor5@yahoogroups.com; issuesonline_worldwide@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:49:22 +0530 Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Baba Ramdev to communalise politics
Funny we are so bankrupt ! Have no one to get into the ring against the Nehru dynasty except yoga teachers , tooth paste makers , medicine men etc even as we head for the next century which will be an age of science and technology more intense than ever before! Even our Generals seem to find solace with living Gods prostrate at their feet seeking the ultimate a salvation from all the ills that carry us into the gutter! There is something morbidly wrong with our genes . No genetically we can excel in self deception ,delusions and weaving a shell of make believe world and when down and out happy with self glorification . SIGNS OF A SINKING SOCIETY. One is surprised at how DISCONNECTED we are with realities on ground and pick up slogans ,war cries, loin camps etc which have no relevance to the war that we pretend to wage from our elitist nests . For example a lot of cry against corruption none the wiseerr or quite reticent that corruption cannot be weeded out by creating fronts to fight it ! It is endemic to the very system of democracy we practice it is a market in guise of peoples franchise, corruption is endemic to Hindu society , to our very upbringing! How many of us have watched closely how a tehsil functions or even a panchayat! However many lok pals we may have the poor widow has to grease the hands of someone to get her pension! Some are out to resist –resist what and how? We couldn't push Annas campaign through a fruitful end what else from keyboards? No there has to be some different stroke and not the pick of babas and sadhoos! Our mindsets are archaic and anachronistic this wont rid us of any dynasty –Mulayam is getting ready for another Chauhan
From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net [mailto:indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of S kumar Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Baba Ramdev to communalise politics
1. Baba Ramdev's Trust has the Trust Deed, aims and objcetives clearly approved by the Govt./Charity Commisioner, and has been functioning since many years submitting the annual balance sheets and reports to the Income-tax as well as Charity Commissioner as required by Law, and all these documents were accepted and approved by the Govt. 2. Commercial activity is an accepted function ofor the Charitable Trust, operating Educational Institutions, Hospitals, Charity Homes, Orphanages..etc. and Ramdev's Trust is no different and has been acceptable all these years. Can you accept BCCI as a Society having exemption under I.Tax where the earnings and turn-overs run into millions of $? 3. After the attempt to kill Ramdev at the midnight raid, as directed by Chiddu and Sibal and as forewarned to him the previous day by INDIATV Rajat Sharma, UPA found itself to find other routes to harass Ramdev, failed in nailing his brother Balakrishna as having false India Passport- The Court indicted CBI for the false case as the Police enquiries before issuing or renewing the Passports were made twice and how CBI finds a new charge? 4. The UPA's present attempt is to hit Ramdev below the belt s Ramdev continues his sessions fighting against corruption particaularly by UPA and Coongress leaders, by using the new Congress led State Govt. to foist charges by declaring the land allotment and his Trust as illegal, which could be contested in Court as Court might ask the Govt. how could successive Govts. change the decisions taken in such matters leading to utter chaos in the system? t5. Devinderji might argue that Ramdev should have continued with his Yoga classes and not indulge in POlitics. But the fact is the billions carted away by the Nehru dynasty and stashed abroad and the many megscams in every action of the Govt. has triggered the patriotism of every citizen, how Italian family has been looting this Country with total impunity, starting with her arrival after marriage with Rajiv and telling lies all through, be her age or qualification or parentage and so on. From: ramachandran vizhakat <rvizhakat@yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Baba Ramdev to communalise politics
I cannot accept your arguments. All good people with a mission has to suffer for some time. The corrupt, stupid and shameless lots are there to trouble them with all means. We should expose those corrupt lots, rather than going after Swami Ramdev. Even if he accumulated wealth as long as that has done for the welfare of people, it is preferable to those using for personal welfare. Let us ask why such enquiries has not done against Robert Wadera. If they carry out similiar probe against any businessman more mistakes will comes out. I am not a follower of Swami, but I certainly appreciate the way he work 18 to 20 hours for common people. Winning in election is not yet fair in India. Educated lots hardly find time to vote.
How you look CM and Opposition leader in Kerala demanding bail for Madhani. In India many started believing that if you are a Hindu only God is there for your help. Let us resist injustice in all forms. |
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