Friday, May 3, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Volunteers to test IAC opinion poll script

"Posting Cost" of a "Revenue Officer" at Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai, Ahmedabad, Hyderabad etc. is Rs. 2 Crore per year. As we saw yesterday 2 crores (Avdance 90 lakhs) has been paid to become a Railway Board member. In that sense Mr. Arvind is "Purely HONEST" because as per information, in his full service tenure he never transferred out of Delhi and this "Record"(?) is maintained by his wife too... Against these charges Kejriwal's clarification is "Govt. needs competent and honest officers in Delhi". It means he want to say that Mr. Ashok Khemka (transferred 43 times) is not competent and not honest... what an HONESTY Mr. Kejriwal.


On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Prem Sabhlok <psabhlok@hotmail.com> wrote:
Free or subsidised water and electricity will lead to corruption, chaos and economic disaster.
Arvind Kejriwal is a firm believer in Nehruvian Socialism. All his policies will ultimately lead to large scale corruption. What country needs today is Swaraj (self rule), minimum government and maximum self governance, revival of Gandhian thoughts, economics and philosophy is the solution.
To a large extent Gandhian thoughts are based on Vedic metaphysics- minimum  government, moderation, swaraj, ethics and transparency.
 
Regards
Prem Sabhlok

Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 05:51:34 +0530
From: ddchop47@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net

Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Volunteers to test IAC opinion poll script

Friends All,
I say my piece, not that Mr Sabajit Roy requires my numerical "strength".
In today's money economy, nothing really is free. Freely provided electricity and water to the agriculturist, at least those owning more than two acres of land, is yet another form of gaining votes. More so large chunks of votes are generally coming from the rural population.
Urbanites (as in Gurgaon, et al) tend by and large do not exercise their franchise, and by at least two-thirds.

Arvind Kejriwal is indeed offering a massive bribe of sorts IF he is offering potable water or electricity, FREE to the Delhi-ites.
Susidized or FREE sanitation, in urban or rural areas is indeed the need of the hour, by which approach we may be able to cut out the illnesses and mortality of the little children and infants in our city slums and the hinterland.
We ill-provide  & are one of the lowest among the nations of the world where sanitation is concerned.

Pollution FREE India may be a better service to the populace, even if VOTES are sought; NOT free WATER and ELECTRICTY.

Respectfully submitted.
Peace and regards
dev chopra in gurgaon
UN retree (born 1934, finally now made a home, having come from Lahore in 1947-- why do I share this info.-- to say, stop cheating in electioneering! Is it for all this we threw the British out and end up with SCAMS. Now these get known because of the media and greater awareness, and also because Indians used to be like the sheep, in the previous eras.)


On 4 May 2013 01:47, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. Awatramani

The term "dishonestly" has been defined in India's Laws since at least 1860 (Indian Penal Code)

Section 24. Dishonestly

Whoever does anything with the intention of causing wrongful gain to one person or wrongful loss to another person, is said to do that thing "dishonestly".

So from this definition it is clear that Arvind's BRIBE (which he has no intention of fulfilling) of free electricity and water (or half price electricity and water) is absolutely DISHONEST and CORRUPT, FRAUDULENT and DECEITFUL and shows that Arvind is, and always was, a corrupt and greedy person.

I hope that as a Professional Party of India candidate yourself you don't fall into the same greedy trap as Arvind. It is infinitely better to be poor and honest than rich and corrupt.

Sarbajit

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Santosh Awatramani <santosh300@gmail.com> wrote:
Please clarify the The word Honest.  Then, as we are all aspiring to Holy ier that thou approach. and what are the parameters of its Judgement. ? an accessment done in the USA as to an Honest Tax payer, there were none.  irrespective of class every one had evaded some tax. 


May i request you all to rise above such situations and stop being a judge morally and otherwise and focus of the goal we are trying to achieve. which is an effective governance. 

Arvindji has just offered the people free electricity and free water. That he has done Honestly ! 
to get the vote.  Offcourse,  this will come at a cost to the country for his votes. How is that different from TV and fans being offered. and going further for some who actually pay cash in advance out of their own pockets to get those votes.. 

Please re phase questions like- 

1. Arvindji has offered free Electricty and Free water to all Delhi Voters.  Is that an Honest truth or is he lying to the people of Delhi. ?  and now you see the response.. 

2. Which is more Honest. Put in the order  More Honest on top. 

1. Telling people that you will give them free electricity and free water at the cost of Taxpayers,
2. Offering  fans and heaters to the voters.
3. Paying cash upfront for the Votes. 
4. Offering free electricity and water a form of a Bribe to voters. 


3. . Water is available freely from the Jamuna, but if you want it piped delivered to your house you pay for the service. 
Should you 
1. Pay for the service or 
2. Should it be free ?

4. Will free electricity and Free water at home cause 

1. Abuse of use of Power and water.
2, Large scale environmental damage.
3  Drain on the economy. 
4. Voters will not try save power and water
5  Will not bring about effective governance. 
6  All of the above 

Santosh Awatramani





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