Dear Kalyanam,
Your eulogy of Gandhi made me break my vow not to respond to mails from this portal.
Having fed for decades with larger than oneself stories of Gandhi and Nehru,it is natural for us believe in their divinity.A nearest biography of Gandhi was the one written by Joseph Leyland(Great Soul).Many do not know that Gandhi supported the British in the Zulu war and the hostility of the locals forced him to leave South Africa.British,as shrewd as they are, were scared of Indian violence after their experience of 1857 and looked indulgently at his non-violence while sending other patriots to Andamans and gallows. The first seeds of Hindu-Muslim enemity was sown by Gandhi by bringing religion into the freedom struggle when he teamed up with Ali brothers in the Khilafat movement,a total communal one.Jinnah was outraged ,resigned from Congress and left for UK.It is another factor that Jinnah came back after a decade due to the arrogance of Nehru,a chamcha of Gandhi.In my opinion these two are responsible for the partition and the subsequent misery and death of millions.The Khilafat agitation in Malabar in Kerala turned into a communal fight.Hundred of thousands Hindus were forcibly converted or killed.It should be noted that Gandhi and Ali brothers visited Malabar hust few months before the agitation.
Gandhi was a shrewd bania rather than a Mahatma.It is fraud to say that we got our freedom due to Gandhi.A post WWII weak Britain,INA pressure which made ther British suspect the loyality of the entire Indian Army,Naval mutiny etc are the ones that made Britain leave India.Ceylon,Burma etc also got their freedom at the same time without a Gandhi.
I write this because you want Gandhi to have a second 'avatar'.His one 'Avatar' itself is enough.He left leaving a nation in blood and turmoil and pushing up his chamcha,an imbecile Nehru as PM against the wishes of the Congress Working Committee.The malaise of corruption, clannishness, favouritism, backwardness etc dogging this nation as well as our problems on Kashmir,Tibet and China can be traced to Nehru's wrong policies.
navnith
Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 11:21:18 +0800
From: ask_maadhyama@yahoo.co.in
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Volunteers to test IAC opinion poll script
Most Respected Dear IAC Members, WITH SUCH CONTINUOUS DEBATES EMANATING FROM MEMBERS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING ? WHAT THESE DEBATES GOING TO ACHIEVE ? WHAT WE ARE UPTO ? MAY BE ALL THESE DEBATES WILL BE PUBLISHED BY SOMEONE ONE DAY AND IT MAY SELL AS HOT CAKE. I AM REPEATEDLY WRITING THAT THE MAIN AGENDA OF IAC IS VITIATED IN DIFFERENT ANGLES WITH PERSONAL PREJUDICES WHICH IS GOING TO HELP ONLY THE CORRUPT. IAC IS NOWHERE NEAR THE AGENDA OF ROOTING OUT CORRUPTION DESPITE ITS EXISTENCE FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS. WITH THE PERCEPTION OF MR. SARBAJIT ROY WHO IS HEADING THE PRESENT IAC, ONLY A MAHATHAMA GANDHI CAN BE FIT PERSON TO HEAD THE IAC MOVEMENT. I AM NOT SURE WHETHER HE WILL ALSO BE SPARED FROM ANY ACCUSATIONS OF BEING CORRUPT. HOWEVER, A MAHATHMA GANDHI SHOULD TAKE A RE-AVDHAR TO LIBERATE THE COUNTRY FROM ALL THE ILLS WE ARE PUT INTO. WE WILL PRAY FOR A REAVDHAR OF MAHATHMA GANDHI !!!!JAIHIND !!! JAIHIND !!! JAIHIND !!!
With Best Regards,
A.S.KALYANAM
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[IAC#RG] Are we going to argue about GANDHI's legacy?
Dear Mr. Krishnan
INTERESTING!
You would love Mr. Joseph Leyland's treatise - nearest biography?? - 'coz you agree with his views. Good for you. Why can't there be an opposing view? Someone who disagrees with you need not be ignorant, should (s)he?
All what you have said may well be true. But the fact remains he sacrificed a reasonably good, well-off life to struggle for Indian freedom. This to the extent that his family lost out good but none ever gained a morsel out of it all. Went down the tube, instead. Do you want to deny that as well? BANIA?! - he sure was a bad one! How many amongst today's frustrated and "well-off" gentry would be willing to do a 10th of what he did, for nearly a similar cause: Free us from this bondage?
We have few icons in our country. We have plenty more iconoclasts! What they forget is that the icons they are target are after all human. With human emotions, frailties and fallible. Who is at fault to make such a demi-god? The iconoclasts, I dare say. Their life's mission is to break that icon - FROM THEIR MIND, AT FIRST!
There are plenty more who think differently. Plenty who think Gandhi did a lot for India. One would think there is room for both views to exist!
About the story of partitioning India. Many, many essays have been written expressing one's views. I have one as well. But shall hasten to add - THANK GOODNESS, we are not with the Pakistanis. Phew! That was a close shave!
Take care, live and let live!
Let us focus our energies on the task at hand. Mr. MK Gandhi is dead and gone. We can't change anything that he did or did not!
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Navnith Krishnan <navkris@hotmail.com> wrote:
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