Saturday, May 4, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Final Opinion Poll results

Sarbajit's animosity to Narendra Mody has been obvious in the past and now blaming his continuous massive win due to EVM tampering!!
 
Sarbajit, Are you not aware that the State Govt. has no role to play in the Elections except providing the staff to conduct the same under CEC at Delhi and SEC in the states under strict supervision by CEC's observers?
 
EVM-s are stored and distributed by the Election Commission and State again has no role here.
 
I do agree that EVM-s could be tampered as proved by Hriprasad of Hyderabad at various locations including in U.S. in presence of Electronic experts. The present CEC Sampath was a witness to such demonstration by Hariprasad at Hypoderabad when he was CEC-III under Navin Chawla, who got many Congress leaders elected by EVM tampering- including Chidambaram by recounting three times and bringing in additional EVM-s. The case is still, pending to invalidate Chidambaram's election at Madurai bench of Madras High Court.
 
CEC Sampath has already decalred that CEC is ready with an EVM with papertrail and has been successfully tried out as a tamper proof voting mechanism, as paper trails could be counted in case of disputes. He has asked GOI to make all EVM-s to be connected to paper print-out facility at the earliest.
 
Narendra Mody's massive following everywhere could be seen by the crowds in his meetings. They are not brought in trucks and paid Rs.100 each as is done for meetings of Rahul or Sonia Gandhi anywhere in the Country. Even then, in Karfnataka, Sonia was furious with local Congress leaders, why more than half the chairs were empty when she addressed at Bellary!!

From: shirish dave <smdave1940@yahoo.com>
To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Final Opinion Poll results
Dear Mr. Roy,
This was only my personal feeling. I receive a lot of your comments which may be through indiaresists. I enjoy it. I like Narendra Modi, and I don't like Nehruvian Congress and its allies, which is mostly based on material, that is OK.

But based on what I have watched comments through facebook and comments on other pages and other lots, I don't find Nitish Kumar and PC (even if we leave aside Mamata) that they are that much popular to comparable to Modi. It may be my limitation but I don't know who is Nandan Nilekani. I think the voting probably is based on some geographical or some selective boundary.

There is a tendency of some group to float one or other framed voting, the result of which mostly depends upon the contacts one has on internet and how many are freely available to opt for voting. There are many times willfully designed voting options to arrive predetermined result and to confuse to those who have least sense of significance. TV channels are actively following this system tactfully.

As to what you said "There is another possibility you should consider -  Mr. Modi has been winning Gujarat because of EVM tampering and his charishma will evaporate if voting is free and fair." is a very lengthy discussion for those who are simply depending upon so called learned media. I have observed in 2002, 2007 and 2012, where simply media had played a significant roll to reduce the Modi's seats. Every time the media has created a havoc against Modi, and avoided to reflect the feeling of people of Gujarat. It is next to impossible to wide spread EVM tempering, when Modi gets land side victory. Modi had tried to introduce possible compulsory voting, but nehruvian congress and its opponents at center did not allow it (through the state governor). It is a normal feeling of common mass of Gujarat that in case of compulsory voting Modi could get much more seats than what he got in last assembly elections.

Thank you for response.
Shirish Dave
 

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2013 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Final Opinion Poll results
Dear Mr. Dave

I can assure you that those figures were actually entered by somebody.

But you ought it try it out for yourself (and please tell your friends at mediamonitor and issuesonline also and ask them to vote for Mr. Modi).

Step #1
http://iac0005.eu5.org/poll/results.php?pollid=1
Note down a) the total number of votes already entered b) The votes already cast in favour of your candidate

Step #2
http://iac0005.eu5.org/IAC_POLL_0001.html
click on the button next to your candidate and click "submit"

If nobody else (including you) has previously cast a vote from your IP Address, you will see that your candidates vote and also the Total vote has increased by the number of valid votes cast by yourself AND by any other voter in the time between Steps #1 and #2.

You can always use Step #1 to keep checking (as long as the poll is running) that the voting is taking place smoothly (ie. no "disappearing votes").

I really can't explain why Mr. Narendra Modi has such few supporters in our group. Similarly I cannot explain why Ms. Sonia Gandhi is perceived to be so "not honest" either.

In our next poll we'll see if proportional voting will improve the situation. Maybe Mr. Narendra Modi is the 2nd choice for almost everyone on this group. Maybe all his votes switched to Baba Ramdev.

There is another possibility you should consider -  Mr. Modi has been winning Gujarat because of EVM tampering and his charishma will evaporate if voting is free and fair.

Sarbajit

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 8:22 PM, shirish dave <smdave1940@yahoo.com> wrote:
These are all fake figures.
Narendra Modi is well ahead of all. As for Nehruvian Congi leaders PC and others colleague are zero.



The surprising finding is how Chidambaram, the epitome of corruption got 16%. But for his actions/ support as FM and HM none of the major scams would have happened

From: Satish Oberoi <oberoi50@yahoo.com>
To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Final Opinion Poll results
Request intimate method used to obtain opinion poll.


From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2013, 14:45
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Final Opinion Poll results
This only reflects the "reality" of those educated internet connected armchair persons who read IAC's mailing lists and took some time to respond to the poll. We openly say it may be very different from ground realities. But, in my personal opinion it shows a core set of people who may be crucial in India-2014 with their relative personal integrities. For instance the Congress being unable to keep Mamta Banerjee on CBI leash has launched this Ponzi Chit Fund scam to control her, so Mamta will have to dump all these wheeler dealers like K.D. Singh to retain her "honesty" with IAC in future. Insofar as the Poll itself goes, anyone on the internet knowing the link could have voted, and the results were openly available in real time to anybody with an internet connection. As both the links are functional you can still test it out for yourself. (The vote-by-vote record is available to IAC techs). IAC is NOT a representative sample of India Sarbajit
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 1:40 PM, moorty yechury <myechury@yahoo.com> wrote:
Let us see how it effects the reality.
Also let us the correctness of this with actuality
YVSR MOORTY

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Final Opinion Poll results
POLL for India's most honest person
Sonia Gandhi *
 1 (0.61%)
Narendra Modi ********
 16 (9.76%)
Mayawati
0 (0%)
Jayalalitha
0 (0%)
Nitish Kumar ***************
 29 (17.68%)
Mulayam Singh Yadav ***
 5 (3.05%)
Mamata Banerjee ***************************
 54 (32.93%)
P Chidambaram *********
 18 (10.98%)
Nandan Nilekani *****
 9 (5.49%)
Montek Singh Ahluwalia
0 (0%)
Mukesh Ambani
0 (0%)
Arvind Kejriwal ******
 12 (7.32%)
Altamas Kabir *
 2 (1.22%)
Barkha Dutt *
 1 (0.61%)
Others - Baba Ramdev etc. *********
 17 (10.37%)
Total votes: 164
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