Friday, May 3, 2013

RE: [IAC#RG] India sings peace to an occupier

what china did in 1948,
it was by a visionary Mao, and administered by Chao En lie, his lieutenant.
It was not honest and dishonest of virtues,
it was discipline,

for that they chose tool of ruthlessness,
slowly the cult  imbibed in the minds of one and all, it is discipline first.
Slowly the importance and understanding of discipline became basic of the developments.
it is bhaya bin na hote preeti,
I do not advocate the emergency of 1977, by Indra FirozeKhan Ghandi not Gandhi, but the event turned the tables, during emergency, much of illegal kabja of government land was vacated immediately by grabbers.
Parading criminals, and hoarders in public, by a IAS Dharam Dutt, had effect on wrong doers.
Today people are more inclined to know how to manage a situation of law breaking;
our constitution law is based on kabja, (possession) not on rights and wrongs. This gives them rights to do wrong, i.e. might is right, there is a need of law of repossession based on rights of people , it is still missing which is required, and fear of doing wrong is deterrent for one and all. wether in public or lawmakers
In china   one thing is missing, that is lawyers. But fears international forum of world opinion. That is deterent on police makers', and with that in minds the policy changes and become subtle all around

but for common criminals, is

1)       judiciary,

2)      prosecutors, and

3)      criminals,

no time is given to cook up cock and bull story,

 Either confess or challenge,
for confession there is a chance for reformations,
there is a need to change criminal laws, which has 2 standers, committed by adult or juvenile, offence is same.
Now there is increase by juvenile rapes,
our constitution is leave 99 criminals to save one innocent. On only one reason I e benefit of doubts. Case of Sajjan Kumar we make a case history of brewing crimes, not instant justice, and lack of hope on justice. Therefore road Rage makes, and awakes judiciary into action.

Arvind is making use of that tool,

Do not forget that civil disobedience of salt law, made all the difference, and changed the might of Britishers.

It is the public opinion the foremost requirement not the lawmakers' opinion which has a salve life of 5 years, there should be fear of public opinion.


Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 10:22:09 +0530
From: sps1464@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] India sings peace to an occupier

India had suffered heavily from isolation and compulsion for short term planning. Bideshi Jamwant (Gold Sachs, PwC, City Group, etc) had been formulating our key economic policy. Diplomatic policy is mostly driven by Deshi Jamwant (IFS). And political map is sketched by Local jamwant (local parties).  

China want to occupy us in war and isolate us to slow down our economic march on the democratic path. It is due to their long term threat out of India. We are not isolated like earlier with powerful lobby of G8 and WE-USA.

Now sovereign and spiritual Indian are powerful enough like Government and Corporate and have much say in our economic, political and foreign policy. At this point of time we have many options. Two are whether we use our own unique power (non-violence and tolerance) to isolate China from rest of world or use the unique quality of others power (violence and pride) to got trap into isolation and short term planning.

Strategically, we are different from 1962. China is unable to see that India is repeating history by becoming Global Giant like what it was in ancient and medieval era. Our Indian voice raised here is assets for the country and real power of tomorrow where China stand nowhere. Let us evaluate the situation in totality and put India first as we want by standing together - collaborating with political, diplomatic and economic forces of the country and prepare country for long term strategic dominance. 

Non-violence need more power than violent one. Can we prepare ourselves for long term at the cost of short term loss.

Dr Shailendra Bharat worked with UN Agencies and firm believer in Millennium India - Hunger free, cast free, corruption free world leader.


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:26 AM, kalyanam sundaresan <ask_maadhyama@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Most Respected Sri Surendra Tyagi Sahib,

Thank you for your mail.  But, I cannot make out anything out of that, as the same is in Hindi. I could reach your mail as I know little bit Sanskrit, but I cann't understand your mail. As there are so many mails on the subject in English, I can come to conclusion that you are also writing something on the subject.  

To make the Hindi language known to all Indians, there should be a 10 to 15% of State Govt., Municipal Corporations, Municipalities, Panchayats, Private Sector Employees of each State should be transferred between each State like Central Govt, PSUs, PSEs, Defence  etc., every year. Knowing multi languages is the only answer for National Integration and not imposing only one languonage i.e. Knowing Hindi alone is not the remedy or answer for lack of National Integration. Once a person is transferred to another State for a minimum of 5 years, he/she will have to necessarily learn that particular language.  There should be regular inter change of above category of Employees. 

The state Govts. should provide all facilities like Housing,  Education, Health etc., to all such transferred employees and no one should feel that they are alienated. If such a mass transfers taking place every year between the States, there will be a kind of National bondage will be built in in the system towards National Integeration.  
 
Right from Leh at Jammu and Kashmir to Kanyakumari at Tamil Nadu, 15 % of  the above category of employees should be    transferred each year.  Constitution should be amended suitably if required so that there is no Court interferences to give effect to this National Cause. Lot of Inter State Disputes will come down, if the entire population mingle each other regularly without stagnating in their State itself.  Transfer of surplus River Waters i.e. interlinking of Rivers between the States is the need of the hour for India's fast development.  If everybody start thinking I am an Indian, most of our ills will disappear within a short time. English also cannot be dispensed with and it is got lot of advantages.  

JAIHIND !!!! JAIHIND !!!! JAIHIND!!!!

With Best Regards,
A.S.KALYANAM

--- On Wed, 1/5/13, surendra tyagi <surendratyagi2000@gmail.com> wrote:

From: surendra tyagi <surendratyagi2000@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] India sings peace to an occupier
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Date: Wednesday, 1 May, 2013, 10:36 PM

हे भाइयो और बहिनों 
आज सत्ता तो डरपोक है अब मोर्चा नागरिकों ही संभालना पड़ेगा . सभी से अनुरोध है सभी नागरिक लद्दाख की तरफ कूँच करें। यही देश की सीमाओं को सुरक्षित करने का उपाय है।सरकार को २० दिन का समय दो और २१ दिन लद्दाख की तरफ कूँच करो। 
आजादी को बचाने खेल धन से नहीं खेला जाता है,
यह शीष कटाने का सौदा नंगे  सर झेला जाता है। 
जय हिन्द     


On 1 May 2013 21:05, Prabhakar Hegde <m.prabhakar.hegde@gmail.com> wrote:
Dr Kumar Arun,

I fully agree with views expressed by you, But this country need a dynamic leader like Late Lal Bhadhur Shasttry Or Late Sri Vallabhai Patel. Not like sonia,immature leadre like Rahul,or Mouna Mohan Singh. They all traitors and corrupt in mind,in action. They only know how to give troubles to Saints,Sadhus and poor peoples.They are modern "Asuras" like Kaunsa,Hiranya Kashyapa, Dhuryodhanas, or Nandas .We need urgently a "Chanakya" who can mobilise the peoples to lead a mass movement to overthrow this corrupt, shameless,impotent government in the center which is headed by Italian head which has no respect to our country.The self-respect countrymen must remove this government immedietly by force

with regards
prabhakar


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Kumar Arun <kumar2786@hotmail.com> wrote:
First of all such a patriotic discussion on a platform of a controversial entity, IAC#RG have
kept me away but compelled to write few lines in reply to Shrikant ji's comment below:

    If war with China will be disastrous then what would you and others who think like you
    say about war with Bangladesh and Pakistan? Just because, many of us have no respect
    for the Sonia-Manmohan-Rahul regime that does not mean we are not united to fight any
    territorial challenge our country will face and pour our support to government and military.

Dr. Kumar Arun

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From: shrikant.soman@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 10:40:07 +0000

Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] India sings peace to an occupier

War with China will be disastrous to India. Our leadership at Delhi may appear to be weak, but at least in this aspect,they are right. There is a method in madness of China. India is Internally weak (due to corruption, indecisiveness, political turmoil ...) and this is the decisive factor in external issues.  
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