Tuesday, March 5, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] ACTION: This fraud called "elections"


Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional_representation There are several systems of PR in use in several countries including most of Europe including Germany. In our system (First past the post), a candidate with say 40% of the votes may get elected as the second and third candidate may get say 35% and 25%. So 60% of the votes are wasted. In case of PR, the lower candidate(s) will get knocked out and another round held say within a week so that someone with a simple majority of votes gets elected. There are several variations of this system. The basic idea being that a party wins seats as per the tally of votes. This encourages smaller parties. In the case of Gujarat, BJP won 43% of the vote and swept the polls. This will not not happen in a PR system. The NOTA option is in a sense a negative vote if a proviso is included that if 50% of the votes counted are NOTA, then all candidates are rejected. This needs further discussion. Pavan Nair

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Vidyut Kale <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:
I really like the negative votes idea. Might induce many prople to vote and bring down the farce completely. Biggest reason people don't vote is that they don't trust anyone and HATE the top 2-3 choices, one of whom is certain to win.

About the idea below:

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:04 AM, pavan nair <pavannair1@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we need to consider proportional representation also. Several countries have implemented this. Essentially, you need to win at least 50% votes to get elected. This may entail several rounds of voting.

This does not seem practical in a country with our size. There will perpetually be elections, related society polarization and violence and a cottage industry around destroying elections that can't be won.

I think the "lesser evil" concept would be good. Even if all get negative votes, least negative votes wins. Which too has its pitfalls, but fewer. Chances are that in reality, it will be some obscure candidate no one bothered to vote down who will get a chance - which might be a good thing seeing as how governance is less about personality and more about intent and commitment.

Existing guys with their hidden affiliations being disrupted in itself will be a boon to India.

Vidyut 



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