Re: [IAC++] [HumJanenge] Plan to Prevent Corruption & other Democratic Evils

Dear Mrs Thyab Ali

The reason nobody from IAC approached you is because of your social calendar is so busy with work like this, that you have no time for Indians.

Sarbajit

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On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:39 PM, BARBARA ali <barbarathyabali@hotmail.com> wrote:

I have been associated with most of the Indians all round India and world wide.. no one approached me for my help to promote this particular group or the RTI Act 2005....
 
Barbara.
 
8056191159 ask for me and Yes, I will give you my direct cell number after you send me a reply to this msg of mine...
 
General Secretary..
National RTI Forum
Tamil Nadu and Australia
 

 

Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:12:11 +0000
From: krisdev@gmail.com
To: iac@lists.riseup.net
Subject: RE: [IAC++] [HumJanenge] Plan to Prevent Corruption & other Democratic Evils

I agree with Baby. We need action to challenge the system. We had filed over 150 RTI petitions to every ministry if GOI seeking details. We run a RTI help desk from Chennai and have assisted many common men from around India as far as Kashmir, Gujarat, North East, etc. File RTI petitions. We have conducted s number of RTI awareness programmes to various citizen forums and also to GOI orgns, PSUs etc and assisted to solve issues. We closely interacted with ICs. All this without much minetary support and publicity. Participated in many TV progrms on the request of media. Many things can be done w/o much hype. Let this group know it.
   
Best,
 
Kris Dev.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Baby Varkey
Sent:  11/12/2012 8:12:   09 pm
Subject:  Re: [IAC++] [HumJanenge] Plan to Prevent Corruption & other Democratic Evils
 
Sarabjit
 
No use.
Same problem in this list also.
Too many generals and their pet theories.
 
  Nobody willing to stick his neck out
even by sending a simple letter or
filing a RTI to the government.
 
These people deserve their government.
 
BJ Varkey (Adv.)
 
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
   
> Dear Nandhu
>
> Please be assured that everything you write is being registered.
> We acknowledge that our probability of success is not very high.
> Nonetheless the effort must be made.
  >
> The history is clear, a group of pirates (Team.Arvind) captured,
> hijacked and boarded the "Aam Aadmi" ghost ship of the Congress
> Party. Another much smaller group of RTI pirates boarded and
  > took over the sailing of the abandoned "India    Against Corruption" ship
> (which would otherwise have sunk without a trace). We are
> under-crewed and vastly under-resourced as compared to the previous
> lot. We can keep the ship afloat (and get it fighting fit) if we get
  > people matching our way of thinking. We are prepared to take
> on board anyone who shows proven PRACTICAL corruption fighting /
> management skills.
>
> What we do have among our (IAC) core group is experience in getting
  > Govts to work the way it should. This is something that IAC (previous)
> has never done and neither have any of their leaders.
>
> WE are very clear that we are here only to empower individuals to
  > fight their own battles, and to provide a platform (with limited
> support tools) to them if they choose to use it. WE don't own this
> group or the IAC movement and neither do we wish to. Our entire focus
  > is to massively multiply the numbe   r of QUALIFIED EDUCATED INDIVIDUALS
> who are capable of engaging with Govt successfully. Unfortunately this
> involves de-programming them from what they were taught earlier.
>
> Our methods are very different to the previous IAC's and very
  > counter-intuiitve. For instance,
>
> 1) WE do not seek or crave publicity.  Media publicity is actually
> counter-productive for our methods.
>
> 2) WE don't publicise our successes. We let the Govt take credit for it.
  >
> 3) WE view the judiciary (and the associated legal system) as the
> biggest enabler of corruption in the country today. Everything else
> pales in comparison.
>
> Warmly
>
> Sarbajit
  >
> On 12/11/12, Nandhu MJS <nandhu.mjs@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear Sarbajit
> >
> > Thank you for the pains taken in analysing the points raised by me and
  > > responding. My obj   ective is not so much as to be argumentative but to
> raise
> > certain issues which, in my opinion, must necessarily be taken into
> > consideration for any such battles against the powerful to be successful.
  > > And the issues raised are real, even if they have to be taken with a
> pinch
> > of salt, and apply to the vast majority of the populace. None of my
> > statements are absolutes nor do I stake a claim that the opposites do not
  > > exist.  Nor do I cast any aspersions on the knowledge of the people in
> the
> > group or the sincerity of their efforts. I do appreciate the work being
> > done which is the reason why I am even taking the trouble of putting down
  > > and mailing my thoughts. Keeping these points I am raising in mind and
> > applying the necessary correction to neutralise their effects would only
> > enhance the probability of success of yo   ur efforts
> >
> > I do not say an individual cannot score success in battling with the
> > powerful. It is just that the numbers who do not is many orders of
> > magnitude more than the numbers who do succeed.  This again for various
  > > reasons, some correctable and many part of the system
> >
> > I would not discredit or simply brush aside the contribution and comments
> > by "armchair critics" Many such critics are voicing their opinions based
  > on
> > their experience and knowledge and operating from their armchairs for the
> > simple reason they are unable to do otherwise for various, very valid,
> > situation imposed, constraints when, given the choice, they would be more
  > > actively and directly involved
> >
> > The ones in the driving seat always have the prerogative of operating the
> > controls and taking the decisions on ho   w things should be run and
> anything
> > other than that can only result in the derailment of the process, But
> > dissenting voices are signals the must be paid heed to
> >
> > Regards and best wishes
  > > Nandhu
> >
>
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